Mereoleona Vermillion | Yami Sukehiro | |
Mereoleona Vermillion | Yami Sukehiro | |
Shouldn't they be relative in speed? Especially with mana zone?Mereoleona.
Yami is just now doing things she was doing before the time skip. I don't see Yami keeping up with her that well at all. He'd be a tough fight, but she'd win.
Not that I've seen. They both can move freely in space, but Mereoleona seems to be the faster one.Shouldn't they be relative in speed? Especially with mana zone?
Sisgoleon treated light magic as joke against Rhya and Vetto’s Ki powers proved useless against her natural speed.Yami's performance vs Dante is something I can't see anyone in CK replicating, except maybe Julius. Ofc, dark magic countering gravity played a big part, but dark magic is OP in general. Mereoleona usage of mana zone is better than Yami's, but Yami couples that with ki and black moon, which erases any spell in its territory. He was able to withstand a gravitational singularity wrecking havoc throughout the area and blew open a mountain. So, I'd say that balances out Mereoleona's mana zone adv. Moving onto cqc, Mereoleona packs power and speed in her blows, but again with ki, I think Yami should do well, given he was able to react against light magic really early in the story and now handle and gain the upper hand in cqc vs. Dante, whose power and speed were amped by gravity magic. So this will probably be a long drawn fight, but I feel Yami has the slight edge, eventually finding an opening and (death) thrusting it home for the win.
You're underselling Vetto here a good bit. They were exchanging blows, and it was not her speed that was the difference maker, she tanked a direct facial blow to land the finisher. Yes, her treatment of a light magic spell was more impressive, but the point I'm making is Yami did well just with ki, and now with ki + mana zone his reaction speed is elite, knowing its only surpassed by Julius's foresight.Sisgoleon treated light magic as joke against Rhya and Vetto’s Ki powers proved useless against her natural speed.
For Julius vs. Dante, the thing is gravity bends space and time, so I'm not entirely sure here.You don’t think Julius would have done as well against Dante as Yami ? Mereoleona was competing against a Julius-tier opponent (Acier) at 16 years of age, losing yes, but it’s not out of the question that she is on that level now.
Yami was curbstomped by 3 elves. Mereoleona held her own against 6.
Saying she can fight Dante is a baseless assumption. You’re assuming she grew as much as Yami, who has an almost main character like growth rate.It's highly likely that Mereo can sense ki, especially given how Rhya directly compared her reaction speed to Vetto, who is the only other person aside from Yami and Asta to use ki. She probably developed it while chilling in the wild.
Mereo would outfight Dante just as easily as Yami did. Her only trip up would be her lacking a Black Moon style technique to help her out. Other than that, we have confirmation that Mereo had been the more skilled fighter of the two. I doubt Yami outpaced her that much, if at all, in just six months.
You’re forgetting that Mereoleona didn’t use mana zone against Vetto and Mereoleona has better mana zone than Yami as well so her mana zone sensory boost is almost certainly bigger.You're underselling Vetto here a good bit. They were exchanging blows, and it was not her speed that was the difference maker, she tanked a direct facial blow to land the finisher. Yes, her treatment of a light magic spell was more impressive, but the point I'm making is Yami did well just with ki, and now with ki + mana zone his reaction speed is elite, knowing its only surpassed by Julius's foresight.
On the flip side, Dante would have Mereoleona kneeling from Presence of the Demon King.
Forgetting? I just answered your initial point where you said her speed was too much for Vetto, which is wrong, she had to tank his blow to lure him in, grab him, and charge an attack in order to defeat him. And cool, I said her mana zone was better in my first post... My point was about ki + mana zone, and I've already shared my thoughts on that.You’re forgetting that Mereoleona didn’t use mana zone against Vetto and Mereoleona has better mana zone than Yami as well so her mana zone sensory boost is almost certainly bigger.
Yami resisted it sure, but needed Black Moon to nullify the gravitational field around him and be able to move freely. Without it, he would've kneeled soon, or just be severely hindered in the fight, I don't see a fire magic user countering that,If Yami could stand in the presence of the demon King then Mereoleona who has stronger reinforcement magic than him can do.
Mereoleona has naturally larger mana reserves than Yami too or larger mana reserves than pretty much anyone except devils.
This entire event revolves around assumptions.Saying she can fight Dante is a baseless assumption. You’re assuming she grew as much as Yami, who has an almost main character like growth rate.
This is about assuming battle matchups, not assuming one’s strength level. If that was the case I could make a random argument for a lot of the cast who haven’t shown a thing yet.This entire event revolves around assumptions.
Saying he has "main character growth rate" doesn't mean much of anything, because we don't know how far the gap was between them pre time skip, we barely have a point of comparison since she hasn't even appeared yet since the time skip, and there isn't anything saying she didn't grow as much as him during the time skip.
As for Dante, like Yami, she also excels in instinct and technique, the same qualities Dante had admitted made the former stronger than him.
As I stated above, even if we don't have an actual idea of the gap between the two pre time skip, we know Mereo was decently stronger most of the cast. Even if she was a bit weaker than Yami is now (which I personally doubt) she should be on another level in skill and instinct that Dante can't contend with. Along with her strength of mana granted by her Royal bloodline, which is surely still superior to Yami's, she'd likely be able to put up as good a fight as Yami did, before falling to Dante's nigh limitless mana and gravity.
But this is Mereo vs Yami. And I don't believe that he outpaced her.
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Her flames burn gravityinb4 some start saying her flames burn gravity
No one was on par with Julius.His skills have also been placed on par with Julius several times.