Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Tanzo]

『鬼滅の刃』担当編集者座談会｜集英社 2022年度定期採用情報

集英社 2022年度定期採用情報です。会社紹介、社員紹介、仕事紹介ほか各種情報を公開しています。

www.shueisha.co.jp

Shueisha posted a roundtable discussion between past editors of Kimetsu (Onishi, Asai, and Takano), they talk about general editor department stuff as well as the series.

Deepl TL excerpt:

What guidance do you give to your juniors now?
Asai: No, we're not doing anything. But I think we are all formidable rivals.

Takano: I'm not particularly fond of Asai-kun, either (laughs). (laughs) But we share the same hardships in "Blades of Destruction", we have a little bit of emotional connection, so maybe you are a little kinder to me.

Onishi: It seems that some departments are relatively quiet, but in the JUMP editorial department, we're all talking a lot, and it's always lively and lively. In the end, we're like "comrades in arms" who all have the same goal, which is to create good works of art together with authors.

Takano：We talk about our work a lot, too. We often talk about our work, and we talk about how we feel about other people's work. I'll say things like, "That was really good this week, wasn't it? We can learn a lot from each other's opinions on manga.

Asai: That's true. When "MASHLE" was struggling for votes, the seniors who don't normally talk to me much would suddenly tell me things like, "This is a better way to get people excited. ...... I was really grateful for that.

Takano：Of course there is always a sense of rivalry. I was thinking, "I'm going to sell more than that guy. That's why I get so annoyed when MASHLE is doing well (laughs). However, when the writer gave me advice on MASHLE, I thought, "I won't tell him about it," but when I saw the tired face of Mr. Asai, I couldn't help but tell him about it.

 

[Newkerzy]

『鬼滅の刃』担当編集者座談会｜集英社 2022年度定期採用情報

集英社 2022年度定期採用情報です。会社紹介、社員紹介、仕事紹介ほか各種情報を公開しています。

www.shueisha.co.jp

Shueisha posted a roundtable discussion between past editors of Kimetsu (Onishi, Asai, and Takano), they talk about general editor department stuff as well as the series.

Wasn’t Onishi the one who “complained” about the Kimetsu craze in his Twitter?

 

[NyanPower]

“Kimetsu no Harassment” is trending in Japan because people who don't like KNY are being treated like 2nd class citizens.
People who force others to watch KNY are called “Kimehara”

 

[Franz]

Can we talk about something that is not Kimetsu?

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Can we talk about something that is not Kimetsu?

If a Shonen Jump manga-anime is getting continuously news, of course we are going to talk about it. Kimetsu is generating a lot of news so I don't see why we shouldn't be commenting them.

 

[Franz]

Isn't there a whole sub forum about Kimetsu?

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Can we talk about something that is not Kimetsu?

OK let's talk about Toriko

 

[Neala897]

By the way new Gintama dtv anime special will be realised on 15 january. Movie which is labeled as "truly last" "not ending scheme " "really really the end" opens on 8 january, Take this as you wish

 

[AbrahamOmosun]

By the way new Gintama dtv anime special will be realised on 15 january. Movie which is labeled as "truly last" "not ending scheme " "really really the end" opens on 8 january, Take this as you wish

Gintama is really ending and I know this because Gintoki has already moved to a new show

Spoiler

 

[wothab]

Can we talk about something that is not Kimetsu?

Eh, I think its fine as long as it doesnt de-rail discussion, which it doesnt right now, if you are not interested its just a matter of not participating.
However it does raises a valid question, which is how long should a series that is not being published in WSJ should still be discussed about in length in the WSJ thread instead of its own thread.
I think with Kimetsu its inevitable since it clogs so much of the oricon ranks its impossible to not mention it, but aside from this I dont think KnY extended attention has been detrimental to the discussion so far.

 

[WyldViolet]

Interesting to note that the interview mentions Mashle was at one point struggling for votes which does not appear to be reflected from the ToC at any point until recently iirc. Wonder if they're bringing up an ongoing issue atm.

 

[101nemesis]

Can we talk about something that is not Kimetsu?

Sure, lets debate about gag and exorcism manga for the 10 millionth time. That's a whole lot better.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 3, 2020 ---

Interesting to note that the interview mentions Mashle was at one point struggling for votes which does not appear to be reflected from the ToC at any point until recently iirc. Wonder if they're bringing up an ongoing issue atm.

I actually think it could be the opposite. Maybe the reason the chapters are so action heavy these days is because that's what helping it do well. No reason for a series that started off with 75% comedy and maybe 25% action to suddenly switch it around aside from low votes.
Also, do placements really matter in the current state of the magazine (where pretty much the vast majority are fluctuating) when it's getting constant CPs and extended chapters and even a cover? Plus it's not like it hit the bottom 3 at any point.

 

[Stivie]

I would like a conversation about syfy manga, but no one in the jump who is interesting to talk about.
So all that's left is war gag vs exorcism.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 3, 2020 ---

perhaps undead unluck falls into the syfy genre. But I do not know.

 

[ItsSamu]

Can we talk about something that is not Kimetsu?

I mean... it is a cultural phenomenon unfolding in real time that deserves discussion.

I actually think it could be the opposite. Maybe the reason the chapters are so action heavy these days is because that's what helping it do well. No reason for a series that started off with 75% comedy and maybe 25% action to suddenly switch it around aside from low votes.
Also, do placements really matter in the current state of the magazine (where pretty much the vast majority are fluctuating) when it's getting constant CPs and extended chapters and even a cover? Plus it's not like it hit the bottom 3 at any point.

That's my gut feeling as well. Around the mid-teens the comedy started to get very same-y for me, the focus on action was much needed to keep things fresh. Of course now it sometimes feels like there's not enough humour in these recent fights but I wouldn't be surprised if that is more popular than what we originally had.

I would like a conversation about syfy manga, but no one in the jump who is interesting to talk about.
So all that's left is war gag vs exorcism.

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 3, 2020, Original Post Date: Nov 3, 2020 ---

perhaps undead unluck falls into the syfy genre. But I do not know.

Agravity Boys has excellent sci-fi worldbuilding. I'm grateful that the main characters aren't always stuck on the one planet - it's allowed even more creativity in the gags and if it does continue for a while into 2021 there's definitely more potential to mine out of the established universe. Would definitely love another sci-fi series in Jump but they're quite rare as of late (and often don't end up becoming successes).

 

[Stivie]

Agravity Boys has excellent sci-fi worldbuilding. I'm grateful that the main characters aren't always stuck on the one planet - it's allowed even more creativity in the gags and if it does continue for a while into 2021 there's definitely more potential to mine out of the established universe. Would definitely love another sci-fi series in Jump but they're quite rare as of late (and often don't end up becoming successes).

Look, I know that everyone loves Agravity boys, but I don't see this world-building being explored. I didn't read Agravity anymore, I just flip through the pages, because it was a long time ago that I lost interest in him.

 

[WyldViolet]

Look, I know that everyone loves Agravity boys, but I don't see this world-building being explored. I didn't read Agravity anymore, I just flip through the pages, because it was a long time ago that I lost interest in him.

You don't read it anymore so how could you possibly see the world building being explored? Every arc is full of world building, but especially the last few.
It'll be a sad day when Agravity Boys ends.

 

[Stivie]

You don't read it anymore so how could you possibly see the world building being explored? Every arc is full of world building, but especially the last few.
It'll be a sad day when Agravity Boys ends.

Well, I lose interest in the manga due to the amount of text and comedy.
It doesn't make much difference to me whether he lives or not.
But, personally the world-building in Agravity is not that flashy.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Don’t worry guys, Kawada will serialize Heavy Metal Yankees and get the scifi series we deserve.

Regarding the Mashle thing, the last battle chapters have definitely managed to balance out the comedy and action bits of the series, to me at least, definitely hope Komoto keeps this proper balance from here on out

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

This fun situation where the two best licenses in Spain in this Barcelona Salon 2020 have been City Hunter and this special edition of Yu Yu Hakusho lol

And it seems a third classic Jump manga is coming. Two editorials said they were fighting for a classic Jump manga, everybody thought on Yu Yu Hakusho special edition, but after this reveal we know it isn't Yu Yu Hakusho. Kinnikuman at least? Prince of Tennis by any some sort of miracle?

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

I wish the bichrome coloring would come back. I would LOVE to see it on Chainsaw.