Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Odds of Jujutsu making Top 5 yearly? Cause it looks like it's gonna overtake HeroAca, at the very least.
Actually I'd say 50%/50%. 5toubun still has consistently selling +200 thousand every month so I don't know if JJK will be able to beat it or end just 50.000 copies below. There is also Neverland there.
 
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Actually I'd say 50%/50%. 5toubun still has consistently selling +200 million every month so I don't know if JJK will be able to beat it or end just 50.000 copies below. There is also Neverland there.
When does the year end? November 15? If so, yeah, it's gonna fall short imo. But if it's November 22, it should beat them both
 

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Wanted to say thousand lol

If JJK goes all 2021 with this same dynamic is going to be top-3 for sure. I'd say it could actually also beat One Piece, but 2021 is the year of volume 100, so I don't think that will happen.
 

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Odds of Jujutsu making Top 5 yearly? Cause it looks like it's gonna overtake HeroAca, at the very least.
Year end should be on the 22nd going off previous years so very good odds as long as it keeps it up for 3 more weeks
 

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With ongoing anime? Definitely YES.

Just look at the difference between their first volumes.
Are you seriously trying to compare a v1 by one of the most famous mangaka of all time with movie(albeit limited release)&push to a v1 of a series from a complete newbie...
 

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With ongoing anime? Definitely YES.

Just look at the difference between their first volumes.
The JJK anime boost looks to be one of the best since Oricon started giving numbers, below KnY and Snk, but above basically everything else (maybe Seven Deadly Sins is on par?).
Chances are, JJK is gonna reach a higher peak than Bleach

"Definitely" is not the word I'd use.

But this conversation doesn't mean anything since it's all hypothetical. BtW only has one volume, that's what matters.
 

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With ongoing anime? Definitely YES.

Just look at the difference between their first volumes.
Yeah, maybe if Jujutsu Kaisen had a movie to promote the first volume and was a series based on a very popular one-shot by the author of one of the biggest series of all time. And what if the one-shot was a spin-off based on said series? But it's just an hypotesis. Maybe you're onto something.
 
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With ongoing anime? Definitely YES.

Just look at the difference between their first volumes.
But that’s ignoring context. JJK was a new IP. BtW is a spin-off of Bleach, with a movie promoting it.

I do think BtW’s sales are absolutely phenomenal and worthy of praise, but we need to keep some perspective here, you know?
 

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With ongoing anime? Definitely YES.

Just look at the difference between their first volumes.
Lol. Fans like yourself really need to study a little bit of data before making wild assumptions and statements.
There's no excuse either since such information is widely available.
 

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Wanted to say thousand lol

If JJK goes all 2021 with this same dynamic is going to be top-3 for sure. I'd say it could actually also beat One Piece, but 2021 is the year of volume 100, so I don't think that will happen.
Just because this year has been pretty bad for OP doesn't mean it's not still a juggernaut. If it releases four volumes it's gonna pretty much a guaranteed second place.
 

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Just because this year has been pretty bad for OP doesn't mean it's not still a juggernaut. If it releases four volumes it's gonna pretty much a guaranteed second place.
Even with 4 volumes, it could sell under 10m a year. (Likely to actually, considering in 2019 it only sold 10,134,232 with new volumes that sold better and Stampede that helped a little its backlog sales).
10m is very much attainable with a good boost
 

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Just because this year has been pretty bad for OP doesn't mean it's not still a juggernaut. If it releases four volumes it's gonna pretty much a guaranteed second place.
Here's the thing. According to Jump's plan, One Piece was supposed to release volume 98 on December, but it's not listed as a December release on Jump's site. Given that it only released enough chapters to fill said volume last week, it's safe to say it's delayed by at least a month or until the end of December, but Jump has already listed Spy x Family to be released at the end of December and there are no sings of One Piece 98 there so the chances of it still being released this year are lower. Besides that, there's already a list of January releases and One Piece 98 is still not listed there, increasing the chances of it being delayed by two months. Of course, it can still be added to January list, but it's not a surefire thing.

And this is where the most important part comes. If they delay a single volume by two months or end up delaying two volumes by one month each, One Piece won't be able to release 4 volumes since in Jump's original plan volume 100 was supposed to come out in July. By delaying it to as early as September would mean the following volume would only be released in December or later. There's a lot of factors here of course, but the chances of One Piece only releasing 3 volumes in 2021 only increase.
 

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That Yozakura vomic was fun lol, was hoping for the entire first chapter to be done already but guess we’ll have to wait for the next half.

Do we know which other series are getting a vomic? Only know of Me and Roboco
 

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Lmao I’m not hating on JJK, wtf?!

I just said BtW would definitely have the same sales if it was an ongoing series with anime. Chill.
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The JJK anime boost looks to be one of the best since Oricon started giving numbers, below KnY and Snk, but above basically everything else (maybe Seven Deadly Sins is on par?).
Chances are, JJK is gonna reach a higher peak than Bleach

"Definitely" is not the word I'd use.

But this conversation doesn't mean anything since it's all hypothetical. BtW only has one volume, that's what matters.
Higher peak than Bleach? Lol.

Wake me up when JJK sells 130M WW and is relevant 8 years after ending its anime.

SMH
 

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Higher peak than Bleach? Lol.

Wake me up when JJK sells 130M WW and is relevant 8 years after ending its anime.

SMH
As a ultra-Kubo fan I'm curious to ask this. How do Bleach fans feel about Kimetsu having surpassed Bleach total sales in Japan?

Not wanting to attack Bleach with this. Just that the "Bleach is superior to JJK because muh numbers" can be easily interpoled to this too.
 
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Lmao I’m not hating on JJK, wtf?!

I just said BtW would definitely have the same sales if it was an ongoing series with anime. Chill.
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Higher peak than Bleach? Lol.

Wake me up when JJK sells 130M WW and is relevant 8 years after ending its anime.

SMH
And where exactly did we imply you were hating on Jujutsu Kaisen?

And why are you mentioning total sales when the comment was about sales at the series's peak?
 

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Higher peak than Bleach? Lol.

Wake me up when JJK sells 130M WW and is relevant 8 years after ending its anime.

SMH
Peak as in Sales per volume. JJK isn't going to last 74 volumes.
But in Japan, Bleach's last confirmed numbers were 90m in circulation. That's ~1.2m per volume. It's not that hard to reach (That's where Spy x Family is at currently)
 

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Lmao I’m not hating on JJK, wtf?!

I just said BtW would definitely have the same sales if it was an ongoing series with anime.
The problem with that is that you used their first volume sales as comparisons to try and support your point. The others merely said that BTW had an anime and a large promotion due to a famous author by the time it’s first volume came out, something that JJK did not have by then. They’re not really comparable.
 
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