Fantasy Aldoron vs Brandish & Eileen

[Seven777]

Just something that came to mind when reading my boys sharkai and Axiomas debating.


R1 They're fighting big boy Aldaron on the outside
R2 They're fighting God Seed Aldaron on the inside


Conditions:
- This is nerfed Aldaron, the one Natsu and Gajeel were fighting.
- Lets assume Eileen enchanted Brandish before hand, Neinhart style, so she can supersize Eileen for longer than 3 minutes if she wants to.
- God Seeds can't interfere in R1

 

[Axiomus]

They get stomped in round 1. Aldoron seed can just hunt down Brandish with thicket and undoes whatever shenanigans they're trying to pull. The other seeds will regenerate before Irene deals anywhere near enough damage to dent him. Aldoron can probably even go back to sleep if he wants to.

Round 2 just saves the seed the trouble of hunting Brandish down.

 

[Seven777]

They get stomped in round 1. Aldoron seed can just hunt down Brandish with thicket and undoes whatever shenanigans they're trying to pull. The other seeds will regenerate before Irene deals anywhere near enough damage to dent him. Aldoron can probably even go back to sleep if he wants to.

Round 2 just saves the seed the trouble of hunting Brandish down.

These are separate fights. R1 is them fighting big Aldaron alone, God Seed can't interfere, pretend Zeref is distracting it or something.
Same with R2, big Aldaron can't help.

It's basically the Brandish/Eileen combo replacing Gajeel in R1, and then them replacing Natsu in R2. Would they do better than Gajeel did? Would they do worse than Natsu did?

 

[ald7mi_99]

aldo no diff both rounds.

august( who's irene equal) attack get negated by natsu while a stronger version of natsu couldn't even see aldo attacks, august(irene's equal) couldn't react to acno one shooting serena(aldo is in his level), irene human form got handeld by erza and wendy and her dragon form get one shooted by broken bones erza enchanted by wendy while against merc in his half power erza couldn't even scratch him and she was enchanted by wendy too, soo now these little comparisons shows the difference between acno and the dragon gods tier to irene and august tier.

and also by irene words she said that the whole alvarez empire isn't enough to beat acno(aldoron in his level) so even if you put the whole spriggan plus zeref they still get stomp and also anyone from the dragon gods will solo alvarez.

 

[Tirl]

Round 2 - team wins low-no diff.

Round 1 - hard to decide, but I guess its mid-low diff for team. Aldoron showed nothing that can even target human size foes who wont stand still. Eventually they will beat him.

At first I really believed DGs are Acno lvl, but now, after Natsu casually oneshot one of them I dont see them even near 1\10 of Acno. Just some strong dragons. And Aldo is the worst.

Also, its nerfed Acno, so he shouldnt even be near DGs lvl, I think he is weaker than 50% Merc

 

[Axiomus]

These are separate fights. R1 is them fighting big Aldaron alone, God Seed can't interfere, pretend Zeref is distracting it or something.
Same with R2, big Aldaron can't help.

It's basically the Brandish/Eileen combo replacing Gajeel in R1, and then them replacing Natsu in R2. Would they do better than Gajeel did? Would they do worse than Natsu did?

Ah, I just assumed the seed would try to help out as it's the brain and would be aware of everything going on. Though it still doesnt make much of a difference. He just has to make big Aldo do the attacking. I wasnt suggesting the big body help out in r2.

They do better than Gajeel, not Natsu.

 

[Cosmicstar]

Irene in her human form was able to perform an enchantment on all of Fiore and she is more powerful in her dragon force. So I would assume she would be able to use a power separation technique on Aldoron to win this fight. I am also sure she would make herself and Brandish extremely durable with her enchantments.

I would give it to them both rounds don't know what diff though.

 

[Axiomus]

I doubt that Irene could pull off separation enchantment against dragons on the level of Grandeeney, let alone Aldoron. The parent dragons had so much MP that they could still use magic under the effects of face, which wiped out magic from the rest of the continent. Aldoron's MP dwarfs theirs.

We don't even have to scale to anything else. Aldoron's hp is worth 100,000,000 demolition fists. Nerf this by 99%, and you'll still need 1 million demolition fists to take him down. Assuming that Irene can spam 1 demolition fist level attack per second, it'll still take her.... 11 days to defeat Aldoron at 1% durability. At this rate the seeds will have regenerated, and Aldoron would be at full power. Aldoron would end the fight stronger than he started even if he did nothing but take shots and wait for his seeds to grow back.

 

[Brandish μ]

This is a tough one because Aldaron is not that smart.

I don't think Irene has the attack power Natsu does, and she's imo not as physically strong as Gajeel.

Brandish can help out by healing Irene whenever, just not sure if they have the required offensive capability here to actually win.

 

[Ramen]

Aldoron stomps both.

 

[Static]

Did you vote for Irene and Brandish? @Jko

 

[Hexbend]

Aldo both rounds and it's not even close

 

[Jko]

Grandeeney is fodder to Irene by feats. Only parent Dragon worth salt was Igneel lol.

Did you vote for Irene and Brandish? @Jko

I haven't voted yet, but

 

[Axiomus]

Grandeeney is fodder to Irene by feats. Only parent Dragon worth salt was Igneel lol.

Not really. Wiping out face puts them above pretty much the rest of humanity. If face activated in the middle of the Alvarez arc, there would maybe be a handful of characters that has enough magic to not be completely wiped right off the bat.... and none of them could fly around a continent and nuke 750 of them. She also taught Wendy, who was countering Irene's enchantments despite being fodder in comparison. I'm willing to bet Grandeeney's claws would do more damage than Erza's sword against Irene. Given that Grandeeney should have far more MP than Wendy, and at least Erza-level physical strength.

 

[Jko]

Not really. Wiping out face puts them above pretty much the rest of humanity. If face activated in the middle of the Alvarez arc, there would maybe be a handful of characters that has enough magic to not be completely wiped right off the bat.... and none of them could fly around a continent and nuke 750 of them. She also taught Wendy, who was countering Irene's enchantments despite being fodder in comparison. I'm willing to bet Grandeeney's claws would do more damage than Erza's sword against Irene. Given that Grandeeney should have far more MP than Wendy, and at least Erza-level physical strength.

FACE that got taken out by a single attack from Tartarus Wendy? Not impressive in the least. FACE was already stated to only be a speed bump to Alvarez. Irene, Zeref, and August could do that lol. Even Wall has shown the ability to shoot of an attack from 400km away with ease and could have nuked magnolia. Not to mention he had Etherion as well. Irene is also a Dragon the same as Grandeeney so she could pretty much do the same, but much faster. Heck she could just enchanted all the faces across the entire continent as shown when she enchanted a meteorite from planetoids away. She also holds a higher title than the sky dragon. Irene allowed Wendy to counter her enchantments lol. Wendy learning enchantments from Irene makes her previous ones look like child's play. Grandeeney also only knew how to use regular enchantments which are far weaker than High enchantments let alone Master enchantments. Doubtful seeing as Erza at that point was able to knockdown RoT Acno. Erza also destroyed a meteorite that was going to destroy and kill everything on the battlefield and it is above even the likes of Brandish's Aldo size feat by scale. Feat wise PoF Erza was physically above Grandeeney and every other Dragon parent bar Igneel. What does being above Erza in MP mean tho? PoF >>> MP in the manga .

 

[Axiomus]

FACE that got taken out by a single attack fron Tartarus Wendy? Not impressive in the least. FACE was already stated to only be a speed bump to Alvarez. Irene, Zeref, and August could do that lol. Even Wall has shown the ability to shoot of an attack from 400km away with ease and could have nuked magnolia. Not to mention he had Etherion as well. Irene is also a Dragon the same as Grandeeney so she could pretty much do the same, but much faster. Heck she could just enchanted all the faces across the entire continent as shown when she enchanted a meteorite from planetoids away. She also holds a higher title than the sky dragon. Irene allowed Wendy to counter her enchantments lol. Wendy learning enchantments from Irene makes her previous ones look like child's play. Grandeeney also only knew how to use regular enchantments which are far weaker than High enchantments let alone Master enchantments. Doubtful seeing as Erza at that point was able to knockdown RoT Acno. Erza also destroyed a meteorite that was going to destroy and kill everything on the battlefield and it is above even the likes of Brandish's Aldo size feat by scale. Feat wise PoF Erza was physically above Grandeeney and every other Dragon parent bar Igneel. What does being above Erza in MP mean tho? PoF >>> MP in the manga .

Nope. It took multiple attacks for Wendy to destroy the physical structure of face, and she still couldn't destroy the magic itself. Carla had to rig face to self destruct to actually destroy it. The parent dragons were actually able to destroy the magic with their attacks, and they did so to 3000 of them while shrugging off a nerf that effectively defeated every mage on Ishgal. For reference, this is how much magic power a single face has.

Walls 400km attack is easily tankable by an airship, and would dissipate as it enters face's range. Etherion would suffer the same fate. I mean, heck....Wall didn't want to try his chances against Jutsu Shiki. Irene hasn't shown the type of speed the parent dragons have. And no, she can't enchant all the faces from the entire continent. Just because Irene can summon meteors doesn't mean she can destroy targets all across an entire continent. You wouldn't extend this argument to Jellal despite him being able to do virtually the same thing....just with a smaller, less powerful space-rock. Universe One, at best, would be able to warp the locations of the faces on Fiore, and that may not even necessarily disable them. This is all assuming she has enough MP to counteract face's drain and use magic in the first place. Which I'll grant for the sake of argument, but is technically not a given.

How exactly does Irene have a better title than Grandeeney? Her best title is that of a Sage Dragon....and that tells us nothing about how she stacks up to Grandeeney as the sky dragon. Wendy was able to deus zero Irene's deus zero immediately, and that's high enchant. Granted, Grandeeney might not know how to cast master enchant, but that doesn't mean she's weaker. Just means she's not as invested at using enchantments. I mean, Irene can't heal or raise spirits from the dead. And come to think of it, we've never seen her use the same enchantments as Wendy did....Stuff like raise and vernier isn't technically even in Irene's arsenal. My argument isn't that Grandeeney is better than Irene at enchantments. Just that I doubt Irene is defeating a dragon on Grandeeney's level with a separation enchantment given how much trouble she had with Erza and Wendy, and Aldoron is much stronger.

Erza pushed Acnologia by spamming every single one of her weapons with heaven's wheel. This is a stronger attack than slashing with her katanas, as shown in her battle against Laxus. It's also not a display of physical strength. Sure, POF was involved, but that doesn't mean Erza was stronger than Grandeeney in physical strength. POF is a boost to magic power, not separate from it. You set FACE off against Erza, and regardless of POF, her magic would be reduced to nothing and she'll lose all her strength.

 

[grey matter]

Another demostration of the Eileen/Brandish wank in here.

It's no diff for either rounds

Even if we assume Aldo was nerfed to 10% of his original strength, that would still be far more than enough to deal with Eileen and Brandish. That's close to 10% of Acno's powers, which is far more than what Acno would need to solo ALL of Alverez, let alone Eileen and Brandish

Grandeeney is fodder to Irene by feats. Only parent Dragon worth salt was Igneel lol.

I haven't voted yet, but

Nope. Any one of the Parent dragons >>>> all of Alverez
Feats? A single parent dragon covered all of Ishgar multiple times, within a minute or two. NOBODY in Alverez has shown feats even remotely close to this.

What feats does dragon Eileen have to put her even remotely in their tier? Being one shotted by Erza with DS magic?

Also, we know for a fact that Alverez didn't try attacking Ishgar all this while, because they were scared of Face. Which was why, once Face was done, Makarov immediately knew that Alverez will be on the move, and tried to negotiate
Nobody in Alverez can stand up to face, while parent dragons weren't even phased by it

 

[Jko]

Nope. It took multiple attacks for Wendy to destroy the physical structure of face, and she still couldn't destroy the magic itself. Carla had to rig face to self destruct to actually destroy it. The parent dragons were actually able to destroy the magic with their attacks, and they did so to 3000 of them while shrugging off a nerf that effectively defeated every mage on Ishgal. For reference, this is how much magic power a single face has.

Walls 400km attack is easily tankable by an airship, and would dissipate as it enters face's range. Etherion would suffer the same fate. I mean, heck....Wall didn't want to try his chances against Jutsu Shiki. Irene hasn't shown the type of speed the parent dragons have. And no, she can't enchant all the faces from the entire continent. Just because Irene can summon meteors doesn't mean she can destroy targets all across an entire continent. You wouldn't extend this argument to Jellal despite him being able to do virtually the same thing....just with a smaller, less powerful space-rock. Universe One, at best, would be able to warp the locations of the faces on Fiore, and that may not even necessarily disable them. This is all assuming she has enough MP to counteract face's drain and use magic in the first place. Which I'll grant for the sake of argument, but is technically not a given.

How exactly does Irene have a better title than Grandeeney? Her best title is that of a Sage Dragon....and that tells us nothing about how she stacks up to Grandeeney as the sky dragon. Wendy was able to deus zero Irene's deus zero immediately, and that's high enchant. Granted, Grandeeney might not know how to cast master enchant, but that doesn't mean she's weaker. Just means she's not as invested at using enchantments. I mean, Irene can't heal or raise spirits from the dead. And come to think of it, we've never seen her use the same enchantments as Wendy did....Stuff like raise and vernier isn't technically even in Irene's arsenal. My argument isn't that Grandeeney is better than Irene at enchantments. Just that I doubt Irene is defeating a dragon on Grandeeney's level with a separation enchantment given how much trouble she had with Erza and Wendy, and Aldoron is much stronger.

Erza pushed Acnologia by spamming every single one of her weapons with heaven's wheel. This is a stronger attack than slashing with her katanas, as shown in her battle against Laxus. It's also not a display of physical strength. Sure, POF was involved, but that doesn't mean Erza was stronger than Grandeeney in physical strength. POF is a boost to magic power, not separate from it. You set FACE off against Erza, and regardless of POF, her magic would be reduced to nothing and she'll lose all her strength.

It took one attack to destroy the physical structure.

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This the same amount of physical damage done as the other Dragons.

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She also ran out of magic after her fight from Ezel not trying to destroy FACE. She destroyed FACE with just the backend of her attack as the power was diminish by Ezel cutting it up. Actually that is not how much a single FACE power has. It was the self destruct which the Dragons didn't initiate. It's like saying Jellal's self destruct on Nirvana was the scope of his mp when clearly his attack power was not shown to be powerful enough to destroy it. FACE also doesn't have magic power in it otherwise it would be powered down as soon as it used Anti Magic lol.

Wall was stated to be able to destroy Magnolia if he wanted to with that 400km attack. It only was "tanked" by Christina bcs he only wanted to destroy the guild. Christina also tanked Acno attacks as well. Irene was able to get across the entire country with relative ease. She has teleportation among the capabilities of a dragon. Her deus sema is also far above the Dragon's Continent crossing speed feat and Erza easily outpaced the meteor by twice it's speed. Irene had no trouble reacting to either Erza or the meteorite. Irene summoned a meteor from planetoids away. That gives her multi planetary AoE lol. Jellal has never shown such a feat. His spell isn't even the same as Deus Sema as Deus Sema is as Irene is enchanting a meteorite from space while Jellal creates his. He has never once shown the ability to pull a meteorite from planetoids away. Irene also stated her enchants reaches beyond the planet and then shows it.

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So yeah, she can attack from anywhere on the planet with Master Enchant. She can just turn U1 into a bomb lol. Anything she imbues her magic with can be turned into whatever she desires. Why wouldn't she? Literally no one in Team Natsu was frightened by Grandeeney's MP level and none of the Dragon Parents were even regarded by Acno lol. Irene has better statements, actual magic power feats, and reactions than Grandeeney.

Queen of the Dragons is her title not Sage Dragon lol. Sage Dragon was Belserion's title. Master Enchanter > High Enchanter > Basic Enchanter. There is no way Grandeeney is on Irene's level enchant when all she has shown is basic enchants. Irene escaped death by putting herself into Wendy's body and can literally take over a host at anytime she please. She also shown the ability to straight rip souls/magic(inifinite magic)/peope out of people, matter manipulate, reality manipulate, life creation, matter creation, and more with her enchants. Milky Way isn't even an enchantment magic either lol. Irene can amplify magic and stats as shown when she boosted Neinheart and the 1 mil soldiers. Stat boosting is also only a regular enchant level spell. She had trouble with Erza and Wendy bcs of plot. She literally whooped Erza in Wendy's body. Grandeeney hasn't literally done anything to say she is even as good as Erza with just a DS sword lol. Who is talking about Aldoron?

Every single attack from Erza produced enough force to push him down. It wouldn't have mattered if it was thousands swords or not if a single sword didn't have the ability to knock him back. Grandeeney doesn't even have a physical strength feat on the level of Aldo Brandish/Gajeel lol. Irene >>> Brandish by Brandish own words. Yeah, Erza is a human. She is not a dragon who have scales that give them a natural resistance to magic based attacks and humans don't have the same physiology as Dragons that give them natural strong bodies. But we ain't talking about magic-less Erza, we are talking about Erza that destroyed a stronger attack than Aldo sized Gajeel lol. She is by feats above Grandeeney. Also why are we acting like Irene isn't a Dragon as well?

Another demostration of the Eileen/Brandish wank in here.

It's no diff for either rounds

Even if we assume Aldo was nerfed to 10% of his original strength, that would still be far more than enough to deal with Eileen and Brandish. That's close to 10% of Acno's powers, which is far more than what Acno would need to solo ALL of Alverez, let alone Eileen and Brandish



Nope. Any one of the Parent dragons >>>> all of Alverez
Feats? A single parent dragon covered all of Ishgar multiple times, within a minute or two. NOBODY in Alverez has shown feats even remotely close to this.

What feats does dragon Eileen have to put her even remotely in their tier? Being one shotted by Erza with DS magic?

Also, we know for a fact that Alverez didn't try attacking Ishgar all this while, because they were scared of Face. Which was why, once Face was done, Makarov immediately knew that Alverez will be on the move, and tried to negotiate
Nobody in Alverez can stand up to face, while parent dragons weren't even phased by it

Not a single Dragon bar Igneel have feats on even Brandish's level let alone Irene's. Human Irene >>> Brandish >>> any feat the parents Dragon bar Igneel have.

Never oneshotted by Erza. Got praised by Acno, made him gawk at her power, and sealed him away better than a time paradox. Deus Sema literally created continental shockwave upon reentry and came from planetoids away.

Literally shrunk a continental sized country to 1/20th if its size.

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The S12 were never scared of FACE. They were scared of Zeref lmfao.

Zeref, Irene, August, Wall, and Brandish have all shown the means to get passed FACE. Zeref only stated it would caused widespread damage to his army, but nothing of it scaring him. Even goes on to say it was only bcs the time was not right to strike and that they don't stand a chance now. They were also talking about ten years ago which most of the S12 would have been kids lol. Beating his fodder army is not the same as beating his S12s.

 

[grey matter]

Not a single Dragon bar Igneel have feats on even Brandish's level let alone Irene's. Human Irene >>> Brandish >>> any feat the parents Dragon bar Igneel have.

Never oneshotted by Erza. Got praised by Acno, made him gawk at her power, and sealed him away better than a time paradox. Deus Sema literally created continental shockwave upon reentry and came from planetoids away.

Literally shrunk a continental sized country to 1/20th if its size.

Spoiler

The S12 were never scared of FACE. They were scared of Zeref lmfao.

Zeref, Irene, August, Wall, and Brandish have all shown the means to get passed FACE. Zeref only stated it would caused widespread damage to his army, but nothing of it scaring him. Even goes on to say it was only bcs the time was not right to strike and that they don't stand a chance now. They were also talking about ten years ago which most of the S12 would have been kids lol. Beating his fodder army is not the same as beating his S12s.

My dude just said Brandish >>>> parent dragon in feats

Shirking a country is impressive, but amounts to nothing in combat. Parent dragons gave us the FASTEST feats ever seen in the series. They blitz and one shot any Spriggan

Her dragon form got one shot by Erza. Pretty much everyone except you agree on this part lol.
Yeah, Sema is a meteor from space, Jellol pretty much does the same but weaker version, don't see you praising him lol (unless you wanna claim the Jellol's meteor came from thin air, it obviously got summoned from space as well).

Where did Zeref tell that Face wasn't a factor for Spriggans. Unless stated otherwise, Face makes Spriggans useless, as it's implied to work even on END book, and even partial END is high tier Spriggan
10 years ago, he would still have his 3 most powerful Spriggans and Bradman with him. Probably Wahl and Jacob as well.

 

[Axiomus]

It took one attack to destroy the physical structure.

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This the same amount of physical damage done as the other Dragons.

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She also ran out of magic after her fight from Ezel not trying to destroy FACE. She destroyed FACE with just the backend of her attack as the power was diminish by Ezel cutting it up. Actually that is not how much a single FACE power has. It was the self destruct which the Dragons didn't initiate. It's like saying Jellal's self destruct on Nirvana was the scope of his mp when clearly his attack power was not shown to be powerful enough to destroy it. FACE also doesn't have magic power in it otherwise it would be powered down as soon as it used Anti Magic lol.

Wall was stated to be able to destroy Magnolia if he wanted to with that 400km attack. It only was "tanked" by Christina bcs he only wanted to destroy the guild. Christina also tanked Acno attacks as well. Irene was able to get across the entire country with relative ease. She has teleportation among the capabilities of a dragon. Her deus sema is also far above the Dragon's Continent crossing speed feat and Erza easily outpaced the meteor by twice it's speed. Irene had no trouble reacting to either Erza or the meteorite. Irene summoned a meteor from planetoids away. That gives her multi planetary AoE lol. Jellal has never shown such a feat. His spell isn't even the same as Deus Sema as Deus Sema is as Irene is enchanting a meteorite from space while Jellal creates his. He has never once shown the ability to pull a meteorite from planetoids away. Irene also stated her enchants reaches beyond the planet and then shows it.

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So yeah, she can attack from anywhere on the planet with Master Enchant. She can just turn U1 into a bomb lol. Anything she imbues her magic with can be turned into whatever she desires. Why wouldn't she? Literally no one in Team Natsu was frightened by Grandeeney's MP level and none of the Dragon Parents were even regarded by Acno lol. Irene has better statements, actual magic power feats, and reactions than Grandeeney.

Queen of the Dragons is her title not Sage Dragon lol. Sage Dragon was Belserion's title. Master Enchanter > High Enchanter > Basic Enchanter. There is no way Grandeeney is on Irene's level enchant when all she has shown is basic enchants. Irene escaped death by putting herself into Wendy's body and can literally take over a host at anytime she please. She also shown the ability to straight rip souls/magic(inifinite magic)/peope out of people, matter manipulate, reality manipulate, life creation, matter creation, and more with her enchants. Milky Way isn't even an enchantment magic either lol. Irene can amplify magic and stats as shown when she boosted Neinheart and the 1 mil soldiers. Stat boosting is also only a regular enchant level spell. She had trouble with Erza and Wendy bcs of plot. She literally whooped Erza in Wendy's body. Grandeeney hasn't literally done anything to say she is even as good as Erza with just a DS sword lol. Who is talking about Aldoron?

Every single attack from Erza produced enough force to push him down. It wouldn't have mattered if it was thousands swords or not if a single sword didn't have the ability to knock him back. Grandeeney doesn't even have a physical strength feat on the level of Aldo Brandish/Gajeel lol. Irene >>> Brandish by Brandish own words. Yeah, Erza is a human. She is not a dragon who have scales that give them a natural resistance to magic based attacks and humans don't have the same physiology as Dragons that give them natural strong bodies. But we ain't talking about magic-less Erza, we are talking about Erza that destroyed a stronger attack than Aldo sized Gajeel lol. She is by feats above Grandeeney. Also why are we acting like Irene isn't a Dragon as well?

Not a single Dragon bar Igneel have feats on even Brandish's level let alone Irene's. Human Irene >>> Brandish >>> any feat the parents Dragon bar Igneel have.

Never oneshotted by Erza. Got praised by Acno, made him gawk at her power, and sealed him away better than a time paradox. Deus Sema literally created continental shockwave upon reentry and came from planetoids away.

Literally shrunk a continental sized country to 1/20th if its size.

Spoiler

The S12 were never scared of FACE. They were scared of Zeref lmfao.

Zeref, Irene, August, Wall, and Brandish have all shown the means to get passed FACE. Zeref only stated it would caused widespread damage to his army, but nothing of it scaring him. Even goes on to say it was only bcs the time was not right to strike and that they don't stand a chance now. They were also talking about ten years ago which most of the S12 would have been kids lol. Beating his fodder army is not the same as beating his S12s.

Destroying face's physical structure means absolutely nothing, because it doesn't destroy face's magic. You're just smashing a big rock. Again, the parent dragons were actually able to destroy face's magic and stop it's effects. Wendy wasn't. It's as simple as that. We know how much magic power each face from the explosion of Carla's self destruction spell. Each and every one of the parent dragons attacks scales to above the MP in those explosions. Face absolutely does have magic. It is a magic that disables other magic. Carla noted how much ethernano, which is what magic power is made of, that face had absorbed and rigged it to explode with a self destruction spell. And who says that self-destruction spell isn't an indicator of MP? It is. Jellal's self destruct spell on Nirvanna would have involved both his own MP and the MP of Nirvanna, assuming he did what Carla did. If not, then it's not even a relevant comparison.

The definition of a meteor is a rock from outer space. Unless you want to argue that Sema is not actually a meteor (and it is), then he's also summoning it from space. He's pulling rocks from the same distance that Irene is. It's just a smaller rock. Irene doesn't have multi-planetary level AoE anymore than Jellal does. Irene can't just reach across the continent and make 3000 targets explode. If she could do that, then she would have no diffed Fairy Tail. It would be easier to defeat Fairy Tail than it would be to disable face, and I'm factoring POF for everybody in the guild. It's quite frankly a ridiculous reach given what her feats actually are. Here's what Irene can do: She can summon a meteor that can maybe nuke the battlefield they were fighting on had Erza not smashed it. With preparation, she can enchant the land in a country. Even if I agree for the sake of argument that she can turn Universe One into a bomb, which in and of itself is a reach, these 2 feats combined would not disable every face on the continent.

While we're on the subject of debunking feats that Irene does not have, Irene never separated Fairy Heart from Mavis. Zeref did. Irene was duped by Mavis, who ran away with Fairy Heart still inside her. Zeref managed to separate Fairy Heart from Mavis magic far faster than Irene could, and he also figured out how to transform her into a human when she couldn't. So he's arguably better than Irene at separation enchantment, and at magic overall. By extension, so is Aldoron seeing as Aldoron can make minions that can clone Zeref. Irene never sealed Acnologia away either. Universe One merely dropped everyone off in random locations, and Irene herself had no clue what happened to Acnologia. She just wanted him as far away from Zeref as possible, and speculated that he was dropped off in the middle of the ocean. Acnologia would have been free to move the entire time.

Nobody in Fairy Tail had any reason to be afraid of the parent dragons, because they were clearly on the same side. They did, however, express that they felt that they were invincible with parent dragons were on their side. Obviously Acnologia never saw any of the other parent dragons in action. Even if he sensed them, he would have been too busy fighting Igneel to make comments on them. It's an irrelevant point to make. Acnologia would ignore Irene completely if he was fighting Igneel too. In any case, Makarov felt that Fairy Heart wouldn't have made a difference once face activated, and he was planning to empower all of Fairy Tail with it. Parent dragons operated on the level that Makarov wanted FH empowered guild to operate at, while technically undergoing nerfs to their MP.

Queen of the Dragons title was just because she was the queen of Dragnov, from which the strongest person there was Belserion. Becoming the Sage Dragon in the latter stages of her dragon slaying magic is more impressive than becoming the Queen of Dragons in Dragnov, which she had before even becoming a dragon slayer. Irene is literally at her most powerful when she assumes her dragon form, and she refers to herself as a Sage Dragon in that form. It's her most impressive title, unless you want to tell me Irene with her enchanted wooden stick can take on herself in dragon form.

Again, Erza's spamming all her weapons with Heaven's Wheel isn't a display of physical strength. It's a display of how much force she can generate with her telekinesis using every single last one of her weapons. Each sword only has to push Acnologia back a little bit for the accumulated effects to do what it did, and what it did was roughly equivalent to what the Christina airship did. Also, pushing Acnologia when he's not paying attention and not actively exerting his strength simply isn't as impressive as you're trying to make it out to be. They're just pushing an object of Acnologia's mass. I can push a man of Brock Lesnar's size if they aren't expecting it. I can't out wrestle Brock Lesnar if he's got his heart set on running me over. Anyways Erza's strength comes as a consequence of her magic power. Unless you believe Erza with POF has enough MP to resist the effects of face and run around a continent smashing 3000 of them, then she's not on the level of Grandeeney. Irene is a dragon. But she was a dragon that suffered fatal damage from a combination of Wendy's magic and Erza's strength.

Brandish and Dimaria had their powers stopped by anti-magic handcuffs. There ain't no way I'm believing they'll operate under the effects of face. The same is true for the rest of the Spriggans on their level. Wall was never stated to be able to destroy Magnolia. He was aiming for Fairy Tail guild. Either way it also doesn't change the fact that as soon as his beam enters face's range, it'll start to dissipate. The only Spriggans that would have been immune from face is Bloodman. Maybe Larcade. Irene and August can maybe resist it's effects if we assume they have MP levels to rival a parent dragon, but they'll need to destroy all the faces in order to not eventually succumb. Everyone else would have simply had their magic disabled as soon as they set foot anywhere near Ishgal. August can maybe nuke all the faces in one country with Ars Magia. Irene can maybe take out all the faces in another country by turning Universe One into a bomb. But even then, the faces in all the other countries would still be in play and take them out.

As a physical combatant, Animus has better feats than Brandish. Animus skewered Natsu, which is honestly just as impressive as Irene breaking all of Erza's bones. Animus isn't on the level of the parent dragons, because he did not have the power to manifest a body by himself like they did. He had to take power from Dragon Cry. Also, giant Gajeel isn't Brandish. It's a combination of Brandish and Gajeel. Giant Brandish wouldn't be on giant Gajeel's level in CQC, and would just get oneshotted by Aldoron's first set of thorns because she doesn't have iron skin.