Chapter Tower of God Chapter 485 Spoilers & Discussion

[Jedikos]

Baam is different from other irregulars. Urek, Zahara and Enryu all were already established as they knew how to fight, they knew of the world and pretty mature in life. Baam came to the tower with a baby mindset. All he knew was the cave and Rachel. Urek and Zahara were already said to be strong before entering the tower.

Baam on the other hand started from scratch. Also as regulars they weren't nearly as powerful as they are today. Data Zahard was already in the tower for years and mastered their respective powers within the data floor. Baam on the other hand has only been in the tower for probably less than 10 years and the current Baam is probably more powerful than Zahard was at his stage in the tower. Its been 2 years since his fight with Data Zahard and already he can pawn Rankers easily in base and cut off High Rankers legs and damage Squadron Captains. Took Zahard centuries to get that powerful. Baam in 5 years would definitely be defeating Squadron Captains like how he defeats Rankers.

When u have insane potential, but ur ass can still be handled by everyone in your title group, your reasons for not being strong enough at the time doesn't matter. In a time to come, Baam will be awesome enough that at a glance everyone knows he is an irregular and shouldn't be messed with, but we've been waiting since God knows how long, he just doesn't have the presence of an irregular. He has monsters on his trail who can one shot him now, and his excuses won't matter. If he is different, he should be different.

 

[kkck]

In regards to bam being a scrub or whatever... you guys aren't disagreeing, you are all saying basically the same thing....

 

[DERRICK S NIBLACK]

When u have insane potential, but ur ass can still be handled by everyone in your title group, your reasons for not being strong enough at the time doesn't matter. In a time to come, Baam will be awesome enough that at a glance everyone knows he is an irregular and shouldn't be messed with, but we've been waiting since God knows how long, he just doesn't have the presence of an irregular. He has monsters on his trail who can one shot him now, and his excuses won't matter. If he is different, he should be different.

Potential means time to grow. Look at all thats been happening. Normally an irregular goes through the tower like usual. Look at Urek he went through the tower peacefuly and he grew at his own pace. We know Urek wasn't this powerful when he started, he rapidly grew. Baam has to evolve at a faster speed because he's facing Rankers and High Rankers before floor 60. He's in a battle with High Rankers before becoming a B- class regular.

The expectation on Baam is unrealistic, he's doing extremely well. If Baam could PAWN squadron Captains now there wouldn't be anything else. Squad Captains are the apex of strength in Zahard military. Only after 2 years being able to almost cut off Kallavan's arm is a huge feat. Even Yuri couldn't do any damage to Kallavan, he swatted her like a fly. Baam has the power to defeat Kallavan but he has yet to learn and use that power.

 

[O_n_Sly]

What is everyone basing Baam being a scrub from!?

Power? - he'll eventually get there, everyone on the current battlefield has acknowledged his growing monstrous power (even Zahard)

Chaos brought to the tower? - I'd say Baam has brought/caused the most!!! Civil war among the FHs; FUG vs RoZa; FUG uniting; Defeat of the 4th Squadron (x2); Blind fortune Kell(ers); Canine coup turned unification; Deletion of the Data world; Destruction of the HT...

 

[hblock]

What is everyone basing Baam being a scrub from!?

Because current Baam is a joke compared to current Z and the FHs.

 

[Demonspeed]

Always the same answers...

Baam is different from other irregulars. Urek, Zahara and Enryu all were already established as they knew how to fight, they knew of the world and pretty mature in life. Baam came to the tower with a baby mindset. All he knew was the cave and Rachel. Urek and Zahara were already said to be strong before entering the tower.

Baam on the other hand started from scratch. Also as regulars they weren't nearly as powerful as they are today. Data Zahard was already in the tower for years and mastered their respective powers within the data floor. Baam on the other hand has only been in the tower for probably less than 10 years and the current Baam is probably more powerful than Zahard was at his stage in the tower. Its been 2 years since his fight with Data Zahard and already he can pawn Rankers easily in base and cut off High Rankers legs and damage Squadron Captains. Took Zahard centuries to get that powerful. Baam in 5 years would definitely be defeating Squadron Captains like how he defeats Rankers.

Zahard was a fighter, but he wasn't overpowered like Urek and Enryu. Baam isn't very different, he and his teammates grew during their climb and awakened in the Hell Train. If Zahard had entered at a level similar to Urek or Enryu, Baam would have never been able to draw against his data in the Hidden Floor arc. Only Urek, Enryu and Phanta were monsters when they entered.

 

[shaheer]

Baam is different from other irregulars. Urek, Zahara and Enryu all were already established as they knew how to fight, they knew of the world and pretty mature in life. Baam came to the tower with a baby mindset. All he knew was the cave and Rachel. Urek and Zahara were already said to be strong before entering the tower.

Baam on the other hand started from scratch. Also as regulars they weren't nearly as powerful as they are today. Data Zahard was already in the tower for years and mastered their respective powers within the data floor. Baam on the other hand has only been in the tower for probably less than 10 years and the current Baam is probably more powerful than Zahard was at his stage in the tower. Its been 2 years since his fight with Data Zahard and already he can pawn Rankers easily in base and cut off High Rankers legs and damage Squadron Captains. Took Zahard centuries to get that powerful. Baam in 5 years would definitely be defeating Squadron Captains like how he defeats Rankers.

We have been through this for a couple of yrs now and you probably know our answers to your claims if you hve been around.
Bam is a character who got 4 of the most powerful competent teachers to teach him how to fight with a talent that is beyond Zahard himself. It has been around a decade or so(approx) since Bam has been learning how to manipulate shinso? His lack of achievement in compared to other irregulars by now is not really explainable by some of our standard.. KDs standard is way beyond most of us though.
At the very least his plans and abilities dont match. He planned to solo Nest if others didnt arrive. Like yeah, great plan.

 

[Heisamess]

I think people should read less isekai stuff.

 

[shaheer]

If regular mangas/webtoons can deliver an MC who can realize his talents after 10 human yrs of manga release then yeah sure Isekais will reduce in its popularity.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Comparing current Baam to full fleged irregular is like comparing a foetus a to a world champion boxer . Make no sense to me .

It is well know that even normal irregular Baam is special with the torn at this leveo he should be way stronger that Zhard at the same floor .

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I think people should read less isekai stuff.

Well i started to read novel , and i am quite surprised to say that i like it .

 

[levi12]

So people expect Bam to be like anos voldigoad from Demon king academy or Momonga from Overlord right now so he can solo king zahard and empire on his own this fast right now? Sorry I disagree Bam progressing great too be honest.

Bam only got hang of his powers not that long and he is far too inexperience to expect people to jump to insane level of power this fast.Pontential of his power no one can match him except enryuu and Phantanium.

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Bam strength progression is on level of Iska from kimi boku saigo and Ayato Amagiri from Gakusen asterick.Maybe much stronger than them. Give it time people.

You want this to Be Isekai with Bam insane fast progression to becoming strongest unrealistically and have Girls around him liking him lol.

 

[King Dryst]

Give it time people.

Ten years should be more than enough time. Not all of us are fans of having to wait multiple decades to get some genuine payoff.

 

[levi12]

Ten years should be more than enough time. Not all of us are fans of having to wait multiple decades to get some genuine payoff.

Real time unreasonable as In story it not anymore than two years. Zahard and Ten Family members have far far more time than this

In story time even more unreasonable how many years It took zahard and Ten family to get how strong as they were

sorry this isn t overpower isekai series with overpower main character.

 

[Calm Core]

Potential means time to grow. Look at all thats been happening. Normally an irregular goes through the tower like usual. Look at Urek he went through the tower peacefuly and he grew at his own pace. We know Urek wasn't this powerful when he started, he rapidly grew. Baam has to evolve at a faster speed because he's facing Rankers and High Rankers before floor 60. He's in a battle with High Rankers before becoming a B- class regular.

The expectation on Baam is unrealistic, he's doing extremely well. If Baam could PAWN squadron Captains now there wouldn't be anything else. Squad Captains are the apex of strength in Zahard military. Only after 2 years being able to almost cut off Kallavan's arm is a huge feat. Even Yuri couldn't do any damage to Kallavan, he swatted her like a fly. Baam has the power to defeat Kallavan but he has yet to learn and use that power.

I understand what you meant, but Urek was a monster since the beggining. He, Phantaminium and Eiryu.

 

[shaheer]

Real time unreasonable as In story it not anymore than two years.

WHAT? first time skip with one of the greatest Highranker as a personal trainer ie Jinsung took 5 yrs from Bam. Second timeskip under a personal tutelage along with real world brutal fighting for combat experience was 2 yrs + or so under an insanely powerful highranker Evankhel. Rice pot around a month in total with GoG who was known to train irregulars and then around 2 month under Eudhan.
Bam got VIP treatment for training with 2 personal HR trainers and one Irregular. Even rankers who trained for years like Mule Love had Advance rankers as trainer and it wasnt for 2 yrs, he got is 7+ yrs factor that with him training all around the train station in different dojo and that with 2 thorn the most powerful weapon in the tower . How is it only 2 yrs in the story?
And add to that Bams curve that we are shown under scrutiny. He became Zahard level powerful in a month or 2 after Eudan's training before that he was seen as a fodder character who could be flattened in mere seconds by Zahard. That is a leap that matches the hype around him. Thats a development curve that kind of vanish in the other part of the stories.

 

[levi12]

Og

WHAT? first time skip with one of the greatest Highranker as a personal trainer ie Jinsung took 5 yrs from Bam. Second timeskip under a personal tutelage along with real world brutal fighting for combat experience was 2 yrs + or so under an insanely powerful highranker Evankhel. Rice pot around a month in total with GoG who was known to train irregulars and then around 2 month under Eudhan.
Bam got VIP treatment for training with 2 personal HR trainers and one Irregular. Even rankers who trained for years like Mule Love had Advance rankers as trainer and it wasnt for 2 yrs, he got is 7+ yrs factor that with him training all around the train station in different dojo and that with 2 thorn the most powerful weapon in the tower . How is it only 2 yrs in the story?
And add to that Bams curve that we are shown under scrutiny. He became Zahard level powerful in a month or 2 after Eudan's training before that he was seen as a fodder character who could be flattened in mere seconds by Zahard. That is a leap that matches the hype around him. Thats a development curve that kind of vanish in the other part of the stories.

Oh I see my mistake yet still you guys know that and still compare him to Zahard and ten families who have live for 1000 years and actually went to real war plenty of times plus countless training and experiences. While Bam is toddlers compare too them and nowhere as experience and have as much time as them. 10 years training mean bullshit compare to Zahard and Ten families experience

All of this are over 1000 years old and immortal. You guys are expecting too much that not even realistic.

Please don t want anyone bringing Urek,Enryu and Phantanium. They are already monster before they even enter tower. comparing too them is stupid.

This like chunking Anbu child Itachi From naruto to fight against Edo madara from Naruto(Zahard himself).

Too high and extreme unrealistic standards for Bam to become opp. when He is dealing with monsters who are immortal and have 1000 years of experience

Rachel is trash as irregular Compare to Bam anyway.

 

[shaheer]

Oh I see my mistake yet still you guys know that and still compare him to Zahard and ten families who have live for 1000 years and actually went to real war plenty of times plus countless training and experiences. While Bam is toddlers compare too them and nowhere as experience and have as much time as them. 10 years training mean bullshit compare to Zahard and Ten families experience

All of this are over 1000 years old and immortal. You guys are expecting too much that not even realistic.

So how many more decades do you see Bam to be up to match? Story wise 100? Human age wise 5?

 

[levi12]

So how many more decades do you see Bam to be up to match? Story wise 100? Human age wise 5?

Don t expect anytime soon as if that happen this series will be ending soon. you guys should just watch bleach like Ichigo kurosaki. You guys want Bam to be like Ichigo Kurosaki from bleach right Having insane powers up too fast

 

[projectX]

Some people cant make a difference between ranker and regular power level and irregular baby.Baam thought that can drink milk from birds when enter the tower.His knowledge for the world was almost 0.

 

[lemo]

I think Baam's contribution to the tower isn't unequalled power, rather tha spark for change that brings in some new idea. Baam is the first one who is powerful enough to get followers but actively says I'm not your god. Until now, the ones we know of who were uber powerful fell into the following categories:
1. People like family heads, FUG leaders, Kallavan, White etc. who start getting a complex that since they have power, they know what is destiny and what is good for their followers. They become the "Gods" in their head. With Zahard ans the pinnacle of this philosophy.
2. People like Phanta, Enryu, Urek and Evankhell who aren't really concerned with the people willing to follow them in the first place, their goal is like, lets just destroy stuff and get outta here.

Baam on the other hand, actively cares about the people who want to follow him. He wants them to realize that they don't need to treat anyone as god. That he is humble enough to realize events aren't really in his control as much as he thinks. That since he's here, all that's up to him is to do what he feels is the correct thing to do. It's kinda like introducing democracy in a fiefdom. So, I'm okay with him uber powerful or not, because that's really not his purpose.