Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Xzone]

We don't know which of the 4 series(Magu/dolphin/Roboco trio + Phanton) are selling well.
Is better to wait to the next volume to se if they grown like Undead or their sales got stale.

 

[RafGL]

We don't know which of the 4 series(Magu/dolphin/Roboco trio + Phanton) are selling well.
Is better to wait to the next volume to se if they grown like Undead or their sales got stale.

Saying they have to grow like Undead should be having in mind the fact that this one started to significantly grow thanks to Tsugimanga in Volume 3. This is the data of Undead for its volumes:

Undead Unluck 1 (3 days) *7.610 | 12.624 | ...
Undead Unluck 2 (4 days) 13.521 | 17.898 | 20.803 | ...
Undead Unluck 3 (3 days) 17.934 | 30.598 | 36.816 | 41.040

My point with this is that of course, all these 4 series need to show growth, but it won't probably be a significant growth if they follow the same path UU did. Monthly estimations of early UU also gave us a growth that even Yozakura Family is having now, so as long as they don't suddenly become juggernauts in the magazine, I hardly see improvements over 5.000 copies (which in my humble opinion, are low increases). I think it's going to take fairly more time for them to properly grow.

 

[tirakai]

That's if they even grow. We could see more like Agravity Boys where they start okay but just don't grow in sales at all, and there's no barrage of long runners ending anymore to save stuff like Agravity has had.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

So Jump fully underestimated Phantom Seer, thats a super fast first reprint notification, really happy that finally the GFC curse is breaking and 10 years after Beelzebub, the last hit

 

[Brizzi]

I'm so happy for Phantom Seer! Like some said, it's the perfect chance for the series to start a bigger arc!

 

[tirakai]

One thing this certainly doesn't look good for is Agravity Boys' future, if 4 series in a row have had their first volume outsell it (3 of which are doing better in the ToC too, at least currently). I can't imagine Blood Oath doing the same so it still has 2 definite safety spots under it between that and Moriking, but it could be gone in just 2 more batches at this rate.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Betting on Agravity Boys getting a color page for issue #3/4, it will be chapter 49, Yozakura got the anniversary cp in ch 48

 

[Blink22]

Lets see how Phantom can hold the next few days since many people on JP Twitter are noticing a lot of sold out stocks for Phantom in bookstores. Perhaps Jump underestimated demand.

Full reprints for Phantom Seer!

We’re alive Phantombros! Keep the faith! Can’t explain this feeling man

 

[Ryuusei]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 12/7

Jump

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 23
#18 Kimetsu no Yaiba Gaiden
#26 Ayakashi Triangle 1
#50 Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings 24
#54 Undead Unluck 4
#86 Honomieru Shounen 1

Jump+

#13 Kaijuu No.8 1
#21 Jigokuraku 12
#64 2.5 Dimension 7
#74 Mato Seihei no Slave 6
#75 Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi 4
#163 Ghost Girl 1
#398 How to Make Good Coffee 5
#426 I was Picked Up 4

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Nice rises all around, very curious to see Seer's second week numbers.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Wow, that's quite the rising for Phantom Seer in 4th day, in terms of ranking is on par with vol 5 of Yozakura:

Phantom Seer 1: #76 > #93 > #170 > #86

Yozakura Family 5: #43 > #69 > #73 > #83
Magu-chan 1: #40 > #89 > #96 > #194
Cop & Dolphin 1: #63 > #91 > #118 > #209
Me & Roboco 1: #44 > #90 > #105 > #149

If the series can keep doing great like this for the next days, things will be looking really good for Phantom Seer

 

[yadayada]

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba - 4,774,972
2. Jujutsu Kaisen - 1,002,549
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba Gaiden - 858,751
5. Haikyuu!! - 147,209
6. The promised neverland - 140,729

Looking at shoseki, KnY 23 should be something like 3.3-3.5mln in 3 days.

 

[Ryuusei]

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba - 4,774,972
2. Jujutsu Kaisen - 1,002,549
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba Gaiden - 858,751
4. Haikyuu!! - 147,209
5. The promised neverland - 140,729

Holy shit, that number is extremely ridiculous. The backlog was considerably low for Kimetsu no Yaiba's standards last week so most of this is probably the new volume + SE alone (insert bitter comment about the 3.95 million first print once again). It will most likely blow the first week record out of the water. Also, not to be overshadowed, but amazing week for Jujutsu Kaisen, the anime is doing wonders for it and the series will most likely be the #2 in the yearly ranking.

 

[yadayada]

Holy shit, that number is extremely ridiculous. The backlog was considerably low for Kimetsu no Yaiba's standards last week so most of this is probably the new volume + SE alone. It will most likely blow the first week record out of the water. Also, not to be overshadowed, but amazing week for Jujutsu Kaisen, the anime is doing wonders for it and the series will most likely be the #2 in the yearly ranking.

Yeah, going off shoseki this is well over 3mln, probably in the 3.3-3.5mln ballpark. And Jujutsu got its first week over 1mln just as predicted (although I was pretty close to getting that one wrong, lol).

Gaiden number is pretty crazy as well given that it only had a 1M initial print.

 

[Ryuusei]

Yeah, going off shoseki this is well over 3mln, probably in the 3.3-3.5mln ballpark. And Jujutsu got its first week over 1mln just as predicted (although I was pretty close to getting that one wrong, lol).

Gaiden number is pretty crazy as well given that it only had a 1M initial print.

The normal edition of volume 23 should cover most part of the combined sales because the special edition hasn't charted really well, unless they sold most of the special editions on the first day. Man, Jump really decided to overprint Samurai 8 last year but then underprinted Kimetsu no Yaiba's last volume and the Gaiden this year. Priorities I guess.

 

[yadayada]

The normal edition of volume 23 should cover most part of the combined sales because the special edition hasn't charted really well, unless they sold most of the special editions on the first day. Man, Jump really decided to overprint Samurai 8 last year but then underprinted Kimetsu no Yaiba's last volume and the Gaiden this year. Priorities I guess.

You mean on honto? I tend not to base those off that for LE since I believe those are just the ones ordered by the stores itself and sold on day 1 and exclude those preordered in advance (which are most of them). 22LE was similar, charting below neverland but then selling 3 times as much or so on oricon. Still, the skew is definitely going to be lower than usual, I mean it's a 5k yen LE after all lol.

 

[Griff]

den - 858,751
5. Haikyuu!! - 147,209
6. The promised neverland - 140,729

what's the rest of top 10 including 4th place?

 

[OniluapL]

what's the rest of top 10 including 4th place?

It was posted in the Oricon thread.

 

[Griff]

When are the next reprints for KNY? Hopefully there is reprint before december 24 because if there's not then it will sell like shit for no reason the next weeks...

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 9, 2020, Original Post Date: Dec 9, 2020 ---

It was posted in the Oricon thread.

Thanks, I didn't know about the existence of this thread. I put in in my favorites now :P

 

[Ryuusei]

When are the next reprints for KNY? Hopefully there is reprint before december 24 because if there's not then it will sell like shit for no reason the next weeks...

A new batch was sent out last week and sales started picking on the 7th. There is another batch of reprints scheduled for the 16th and 17th. As for volume 23, the reprints start going out tomorrow.