Games Mafia Game 87 - Baccano! - END GAME

[GrySun]

Maybe the townies who are sacrafizing their roles shouldn't say it till they made the elixir and can pass it to someone trustworthy or drink it themselves (in which case they also shouldn't say it). Just thinking would be annoying if you sac'd it twice or trice and the mafia team(s) then go for the head.

Do the actions sacrifice the role permanently? Sounded to me like it just sacrifices the action, ie prostitutw can‘t block with role + sacrifice for the elixir.

 

[Hardy]

So correct me if i‘m wrong, but to put mechanics in simpler words:

• Everyone has 2 extra actions they can perform, regardless of their role(however active players can‘t use their main role and the extra action).
• First is a ritual that needs to be done 3 times to then get an Elixir that you can drink or give someone else. Drinking it makes you respawn like a Jesus, though it obscures youe main role. Earliest someone gets to drink this is N4.
• The other is getting on your knees and begging Host to protect, block or kill another player. All 3 are done every night, but only once each. It gets a bit vague here but I assume 4 mafias all doing Kill action is gonna get them the action over a single townie doing a Kill action(4 of a group > 1 single boy). So this one seems harder for town to get. Additionally same person can‘t do it again if he successfully gets the action, so a mafia of 4 could do the extra kill 4 times... Kinda rough.

On top of that, you cannot stack two Jesus energy drinks (but I assume you CAN drink one after you come back).

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Do the actions sacrifice the role permanently? Sounded to me like it just sacrifices the action, ie prostitutw can‘t block with role + sacrifice for the elixir.

I think it's just the action, not permanently.

 

[digitaldude]

My action is at night.

 

[Hardy]

@SonOfDaws if we have a passive role does it still work at night if we sacrifice?

 

[Evil3ye]

So correct me if i‘m wrong, but to put mechanics in simpler words:

• Everyone has 2 extra actions they can perform, regardless of their role(however active players can‘t use their main role and the extra action).
• First is a ritual that needs to be done 3 times to then get an Elixir that you can drink or give someone else. Drinking it makes you respawn like a Jesus, though it obscures youe main role. Earliest someone gets to drink this is N4.
• The other is getting on your knees and begging Host to protect, block or kill another player. All 3 are done every night, but only once each. It gets a bit vague here but I assume 4 mafias all doing Kill action is gonna get them the action over a single townie doing a Kill action(4 of a group > 1 single boy). So this one seems harder for town to get. Additionally same person can‘t do it again if he successfully gets the action, so a mafia of 4 could do the extra kill 4 times... Kinda rough.

I think the third thing could be a townie late game option, when trust is established we could cooperate and protect some important roles. If that's how it works. If the beckoner needs to be in your group then it will only be a mason option of course.

 

[Hardy]

Gry, thoughts on mass revealing when people are less afk?

 

[Hll]

The rules and roles in this game are.. wowzer!!

I will need to reread them a few times to get the gist of it. Particularly the steps to create/obtain an elixr, seem to have flied over my head.

As for your second question, the action must be stated every time. If a group is unsuccessful with their Rail Tracer request due to a tie-breaker or getting beaten in the number of sacrifices, then their attempt simply fails.

So can we take it to mean that more the number of sacrifices, the greater the chance of a groups request being selected?

 

[SonOfDaws]

@SonOfDaws if we have a passive role does it still work at night if we sacrifice?

Yes, a passive doesn't require an action to work.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Masons going to come in and save the day this game

 

[Vandred]

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Okay, no roleplaying

The mechanics seem pretty interesting, but they're looking pretty hostile to town at the moment. I mean:

• First is a ritual that needs to be done 3 times to then get an Elixir that you can drink or give someone else. Drinking it makes you respawn like a Jesus, though it obscures youe main role. Earliest someone gets to drink this is N4.

Main role and affiliation, I assume?

• Everyone has 2 extra actions they can perform, regardless of their role(however active players can‘t use their main role and the extra action).

So unless it's roleless Masons, townies would have to paralyze themselves for most of the game for a slim chance of respawning once, without getting confirmed in the process, while the scum get free kills?

• The other is getting on your knees and begging Host to protect, block or kill another player. All 3 are done every night, but only once each. It gets a bit vague here but I assume 4 mafias all doing Kill action is gonna get them the action over a single townie doing a Kill action(4 of a group > 1 single boy). So this one seems harder for town to get. Additionally same person can‘t do it again if he successfully gets the action, so a mafia of 4 could do the extra kill 4 times... Kinda rough.

Unless the mafia team(s) are extremely small, this means they can ensure free early kills every night and still compete for the elixirs?

 

[GrySun]

Gry, thoughts on mass revealing when people are less afk?

As always I‘d do it, but haven‘t seen it pulled off even once. Best chance we sort out most mafias like last game based on not claiming active/passive D1, but let‘s see.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Da fuq......? I posted about masons saving the day and my ex mason recruiter posts right after me........ well same moment.....

Vinodred was jinxed.

 

[Vandred]

Da fuq......? I posted about masons saving the day and my ex mason recruiter posts right after me........ well same moment.....

Vinodred was jinxed.

Now that you mention it, you and a D1 Mason mention kind of makes my ears ring '3'

 

[GrySun]

The rules and roles in this game are.. wowzer!!

I will need to reread them a few times to get the gist of it. Particularly the steps to create/obtain an elixr, seem to have flied over my head.



So can we take it to mean that more the number of sacrifices, the greater the chance of a groups request being selected?

You got a town role? Iirc your last game aeons ago you were a Noble.

 

[Vandred]

...Though the idea of a Mason team big enough to farm elixirs for their Recruiter while also getting nightkills is pretty spicy




Unlikely to ever happen or be viable, but still. Spicy.

 

[GrySun]

...Though the idea of a Mason team big enough to farm elixirs for their Recruiter while also getting nightkills is pretty spicy




Unlikely to ever happen or be viable, but still. Spicy.

This may actually be a game where‘d I‘d buy a Recruiter starting with Masons that aren‘t all compromised scum, but then again would be a nice way of making Masons worthless like they‘re meant to be I guess.

 

[Evil3ye]

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Okay, no roleplaying

The mechanics seem pretty interesting, but they're looking pretty hostile to town at the moment. I mean:



Main role and affiliation, I assume?



So unless it's roleless Masons, townies would have to paralyze themselves for most of the game for a slim chance of respawning once, without getting confirmed in the process, while the scum get free kills?



Unless the mafia team(s) are extremely small, this means they can ensure free early kills every night and still compete for the elixirs?

I think the roleless or passive roles can just be on elixirs producing duty and passing them around. Or is it not possible to create a second one the first?

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...Though the idea of a Mason team big enough to farm elixirs for their Recruiter while also getting nightkills is pretty spicy




Unlikely to ever happen or be viable, but still. Spicy.

Yeah, doesn't necessarily have to start with masons though. if your role is no good use start night 1 already

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Now that you mention it, you and a D1 Mason mention kind of makes my ears ring '3'

If you are suggesting that I am suggesting that I’m a mason then that’s not what I’m suggesting. I’m actually a role I have never been before. Not very excited about it. I have never known this role to be useful in a game. Ever. But potential recruitment by masons would be nice.

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So two votekill already on Panda and Gajeel by DD and Gry.

Gry trying to kill my Ladd....don’t you know: I...

Votekill Gry

 

[Evil3ye]

If you are suggesting that I am suggesting that I’m a mason then that’s not what I’m suggesting. I’m actually a role I have never been before. Not very excited about it. I have never known this role to be useful in a game. Ever. But potential recruitment by masons would be nice.

Well, good for you guys I'm playing this game with you,and can make sense of these kind of comments now.

Spoiler: roles Crescent have ever been before

Player	Crescent Jinx
Player-Faction	Game #	Theme	Role
Town	60​	Ace Attorney	Doctor-Sane
	65​	Ao no Exorcist	Apprentice-Insane
	66​	Hunter x Hunter	Barkeeper Traitor (I)
	69​	Overlord	Noble
	71​	Kingdom Hearts	Prostitute Super Mason
	73​	The Black Card Initiative	Time Bomb
	74​	Akagami no Shirayukihime X Akatsuki no Yona Crossover	Recruiting Mason
	76​	JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo	Apprentice-Sane
	83​	Isekai Quartet	Detective-Insane
Mafia	61​	The Lord od the Rings Edition	Mafia Janitor (I)
	63​	Kuroko no Basket	Mafia Escort
	68​	World of Warcraft	Mafia Bomb Diffuser
	72​	Fullmetal Alchemist	Mafia Boss
	78​	The Unholy Grail War	Mafia Mason
	79​	Marvel Cinematic Universe	Mafia Escort (I)
	84​	MH Hydra	Mafia Poisoner
Third Party	62​	RWBY Edition	Mafia Mason (II) Lover
	67​	Tower of God: The King's Orders	Serial Killer

Come on, who else?

 

[SonOfDaws]

So can we take it to mean that more the number of sacrifices, the greater the chance of a groups request being selected?

That is correct.