Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

I think we don't have Bleach peak of sales per volume, unless there are some numbers pre 2008 but at vol 32 Bleach was probably past it peak, vol 36 was at "955,085" in a entire year so the peak after it got the anime is probably quite higher than this.

 

[Ryuusei]

Sales by Series - 1/25~1/30

#1 Jujutsu Kaisen - 1,666,730
#2 Kimetsu no Yaiba - 1,122,844
#3 The Promised Neverland - 328,641
#5 Chainsaw Man - 173,612
#6 Jujutsu Kaisen 0 - 141,651
#7 Haikyuu!! - 112,728
#10 My Hero Academia - 82,347

 

[Mammo]

The guy's just wasting what was his art in copying pages from other manga and posting them on Twitter as some kind of artistic practice

but that's an artistic practice and it's pretty common
copying artwork isn't easy (as long as you're not tracing)
it's teaches inking, shading, perspective, drawing backgrounds and in comics cases paneling and speech bubble placement

Actually surprised no one mentioned Haikyuu when it's even in the artist bio alongside MHA, there are many panels and angles that is totally Furudate influence, specially the black hair guy, his nose, hair and face structure is totally Haikyuu, the author art now is 100% a mix of Horikoshi and Furudate.

Btw, influences in the art is something the author just needs to work and he/she is super young yet but the one shot itself was actually interesting, promising stuff

the sad truth is not many people read Haikyuu
I'd say Furudate influence was as obvious as the Horikoshi one

 

[Minsel]

Yozakura is back in shoseki at #274... What exactly happened?

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Surprised it didnt returned earlier with the full reprint on January 27, maybe its showing the results now

 

[101nemesis]

How does Jujutsu's newest volume's sales compare to Bleach's peak for a new volume?

The Gege and Kubo collab in Jujutsu's upcoming fanbook has me curious if it's pulled ahead or not.

Bleach peak first print was 1.26M, IIRC.
I'm assuming the next JJK volume should have at least 1M or 1.1M initial print with the one after that most likely beating Bleach's print.

 

[RafGL]

Full volume reprints to bookstores for MASHLE and Undead Unluck on the 25th. Ayakashi Triangle has the same thing scheduled for the 26th. Expecting some kind of anniversary promotion for the first two and then maybe Ayakashi added as some kind of new popular hit trio.

 

[Shinji Hirako]

Bleach peak first print was 1.26M, IIRC.
I'm assuming the next JJK volume should have at least 1M or 1.1M initial print with the one after that most likely beating Bleach's print.

Bleach peak first print is 1.33 million with volume 25. I agree with you on JJK surpassing Bleach’s peak within the next two volumes with its speed of growth.

 

[101nemesis]

Bleach peak first print is 1.33 million with volume 25. I agree with you on JJK surpassing Bleach’s peak within the next two volumes with its speed of growth.

Ah okay. So I'm probably confusing Bleach's peak print with Prince of Tennis or something.
Bottom line, JJK would've surpassed it by this year.

 

[Reading Somethin']

Hasn't JJK already surpassed Bleach?

These numbers go against the information I've seen, do you guys have a source for both Bleach and JJK numbers?

 

[101nemesis]

Hasn't JJK already surpassed Bleach?

These numbers go against the information I've seen, do you guys have a source for both Bleach and JJK numbers?

Well, JJK number is from Oricon. It hasn't surpassed 1.2M in sales, probably will this week?

Bleach is the first print peak.
Following is from @MangAniMY from like 2 years ago.

25巻

初版133万部

年内133万部

＜出版指標年報2007＞

highest known initial print was for #25 at 1.33M

Highest known on oricon (obviously not complete since bleach is older than oricon manga weekly and it is after the peak)

│551006 (4)│696224│751547│******│824251┃*,955,085 (354)┃2008/12｜BLEACH 36


highest known first 5 weeks

│607616 (5)│741225│786896│816680│835835┃*,947,022 (327)┃2009/02｜BLEACH 37

Spoiler: Bleach Circulation Numbers

Volume count	Copies in print	Copies per volume
1 - 11	7 million	0.6364 million
1 -14	10 million	0.7143 million
1 - 15	13.88 million	0.9253 million
1 - 15	15 million	1 million
1 - 16	16 million	1 million
1 - 17	18 million	1.0625 million
1 - 18	20 million	1.1111 million
1 - 19	23 million	1.2105 million
1 - 19	24 million	1.2632 million
1 - 22	30 million	1.3636 million
1 - 22	31.3 million	1.4227 million
1 - 23	32 million	1.3913 million
1 - 24	33 million	1.375 million
1 - 25	34 million	1.36 million
1 - 26	35 million	1.3462 million
1 - 26	36 million	1.3846 million
1 - 27	39.1 million	1.4481 million
1 - 27 (1)*	39 million	1.4444 million
1 - 28	40 million	1.4286 million
1 - 29	43 million	1.4828 million
1 - 30	44.3 million	1.4767 million
1 - 30	44.41 million	1.4803 million
1 - 31	46 million	1.4839 million
1 - 32	49.1 million	1.534375 million
1 - 34	50 million	1.4706 million
1 - 38	56 million	1.4737 million
1 - 40	58 million	1.45 million
1 - 41	60 million	1.4634 million
1 - 42	61.54 million	1.4652 million
1 - 43	63.84 million	1.4847 million
1 - 46	65 million	1.4444 million
1 - 47	67 million	1.4255 million
1 - 48	68 million	1.4167 million
1 - 48	69.99 million	1.458125 million
1 - 48	72.03 million	1.500625 million
1 - 50 (2)*	70 million	1.46 million
1 - 53 (3)*	73.862 million	1.3936 million
1 - 53	78.65 million	1.484 million
1 - 57	82.07 million	1.4398 million
1 - 61 (4)*	82.07 million	1.3454 million
1 - 67 (5)*	84 million	1.2537 million
1 - 71	86 million	1.2112 million
1 - 72	87 million	1.2083 million
1 - 74	90 million	1.2162 million

 

[Reading Somethin']

Well, JJK number is from Oricon. It hasn't surpassed 1.2M in sales, probably will this week?

Bleach is the first print peak.
Following is from @MangAniMY from like 2 years ago.

Spoiler: Bleach Circulation Numbers

Volume count	Copies in print	Copies per volume
1 - 11	7 million	0.6364 million
1 -14	10 million	0.7143 million
1 - 15	13.88 million	0.9253 million
1 - 15	15 million	1 million
1 - 16	16 million	1 million
1 - 17	18 million	1.0625 million
1 - 18	20 million	1.1111 million
1 - 19	23 million	1.2105 million
1 - 19	24 million	1.2632 million
1 - 22	30 million	1.3636 million
1 - 22	31.3 million	1.4227 million
1 - 23	32 million	1.3913 million
1 - 24	33 million	1.375 million
1 - 25	34 million	1.36 million
1 - 26	35 million	1.3462 million
1 - 26	36 million	1.3846 million
1 - 27	39.1 million	1.4481 million
1 - 27 (1)*	39 million	1.4444 million
1 - 28	40 million	1.4286 million
1 - 29	43 million	1.4828 million
1 - 30	44.3 million	1.4767 million
1 - 30	44.41 million	1.4803 million
1 - 31	46 million	1.4839 million
1 - 32	49.1 million	1.534375 million
1 - 34	50 million	1.4706 million
1 - 38	56 million	1.4737 million
1 - 40	58 million	1.45 million
1 - 41	60 million	1.4634 million
1 - 42	61.54 million	1.4652 million
1 - 43	63.84 million	1.4847 million
1 - 46	65 million	1.4444 million
1 - 47	67 million	1.4255 million
1 - 48	68 million	1.4167 million
1 - 48	69.99 million	1.458125 million
1 - 48	72.03 million	1.500625 million
1 - 50 (2)*	70 million	1.46 million
1 - 53 (3)*	73.862 million	1.3936 million
1 - 53	78.65 million	1.484 million
1 - 57	82.07 million	1.4398 million
1 - 61 (4)*	82.07 million	1.3454 million
1 - 67 (5)*	84 million	1.2537 million
1 - 71	86 million	1.2112 million
1 - 72	87 million	1.2083 million
1 - 74	90 million	1.2162 million

Yeah, looks like JJK still has a week or two before getting to Bleach/AC level. Thanks.

 

[Shokkii]

It easily surpassed Bleach with digital sales

 

[revo68]

Spoiler: 10 TOC & 11 Preview

10 TOC
Witch Watch (Cover/LCP/New Series/54p) by Shinohara Kenta (SKET DANCE; Astra Lost in Space)
ONE PIECE
My Hero Academia
Dr. STONE
SAKAMOTO DAYS
i tell c (CP/25p)
MASHLE
Black Clover
Ron Kamonohashi: Deranged Detective (SP/CP/33p) by Amano Akira
Mission: Yozakura Family (CP)
Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi (25p)
Me and Roboco
Undead Unluck
Hakaishin Magu-chan
Kamoshirenai Keiji (Oneshot) by Maeda Ryouhei
Ayakashi Triangle
High School Family
Phantom Seer
BUILD KING
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai

11 Preview
Cover & LCP: Kowloon's Ball Parade (New Series/54p) by Kamada Mikiyasu (Story) & Fukui Ashibi (Art)
CP: Witch Watch (2nd Chapter/25p), SAKAMOTO DAYS, MASHLE
Additional Pages: i tell c (3rd Chapter/23p), Phantom Seer (23p)

 

[Rukasu]

Sakamoto in 4th and color page next week, very very very nice

 

[Rheine]

BUILD KING still not doing so good. While SAKAMOTO staying in the Top 5. Such different results from batchmates.

HBC&D at the very bottom...maybe it really is ending.

 

[Manjiknights]

Yay Sakamoto! Super glad to see the series succeeding so far, it totally deserves it. And finally Phantom Seer gets some kind of award within the magazine for its performance.

If Dolphin hovers around bottom 1-2 for a while that's probably an indicator it's next to go. I don't think they'll axe Build King until after volume 1 sales come out, maybe it'll surprise us...but I'm not so sure it'll pull a Phantom Seer, it doesn't have the art appeal nor a particularly original story (due to how similar it is to Toriko which also had a decline toward the end of its lifespan). We still have to wait until tomorrow for Shoseki but I doubt HSF did well enough to get the coveted gag spot that's probably going to Roboco. The sports chapters seem to be well-recieved but on the whole I don't think it's popular enough.

Magu narrowly avoids bottom dwelling...for now. Could change come the spring batch (which personally I'm predicting is only gonna be 2) if one or more of the above that I mentioned are gone. Come on baby get a year in I want to belieeeeeve...

 

[Blink22]

Spoiler: 10 TOC & 11 Preview

10 TOC
Witch Watch (Cover/LCP/New Series/54p) by Shinohara Kenta (SKET DANCE; Astra Lost in Space)
ONE PIECE
My Hero Academia
Dr. STONE
SAKAMOTO DAYS
i tell c (CP/25p)
MASHLE
Black Clover
Ron Kamonashi: Deranged Detective (SP/CP/33p) by Amano Akira
Mission: Yozakura Family (CP)
Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi (25p)
Me and Roboco
Undead Unluck
Hakaishin Magu-chan
Kamoshirenai Keiji (Oneshot)
Ayakashi Triangle
High School Family
Phantom Seer
BUILD KING
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai

11 Preview
Cover & LCP: Kowloon's Ball Parade by Kamada Mikiyasu (Story) & Fukui Ashibe (Art)
CP: Witch Watch, SAKAMOTO DAYS, MASHLE
Additional Pages: i tell c, Phantom Seer

Holy moly. The Sakamoto gang is moving.

Phantom Seer extra pages next week!! C’mon Nak give us a color page for crying out loud.

 

[savethecat]

We obviously need 1st Volume sales before calling Sakamoto Days a success. But with the combination of the 2 consecutive top 5 placements, a color page next week, and the Vomic YouTube viewcount and like bar, I’m leaning towards Sakamoto Days being a definite hit now

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

After Moriking is better to wait and see for the first volume, it also had great rankings for many weeks and a color page, but sold 4k and flopped, but yeah so far looking good for the series