Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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I’m more confident in Sakamoto Days Vol.1 sales being solid than Moriking, as Sakamoto is more of an Action Comedy; where as Moriking was a gag series, which typically rarely sells well in recent years.

Really hoping it does actually good numbers though, instead of barely passable
 

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When was the last time a veteran got cancelled at under 30 chapters? I think Illegal Rare ended on ch 29 so I'm thinking that, though the last instant cancellation was maybe Hachi slightly before it.
Gakkyu Houtei was cancelled after 24 chapters in 2015. Though tbf, only Obata was a veteran and the writer wasn't.
But that's the most recent and earliest cancellation of a veteran that I can think of.
 

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Well...since there appears to be two different camps in terms of Magazine readership and tankobon buyers, who's not to say that former Toriko/Takeshi fans could support BK when it's volume comes out? Maybe then it wouldn't completely flop.
But who knows really.
 

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Popo, the fifth GFC entry last year was translated. MDex is a bit wonky rn though.

 

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Well...since there appears to be two different camps in terms of Magazine readership and tankobon buyers, who's not to say that former Toriko/Takeshi fans could support BK when it's volume comes out? Maybe then it wouldn't completely flop.
But who knows really.
It all depends on growth. The first two volumes should retain his old readership base, but it’s the volumes after that will decide whether it can go on. I do expect it to last at least half a year, at least.
 

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Witch Watch (Cover/LCP/New Series/54p) by Shinohara Kenta (SKET DANCE; Astra Lost in Space)
ONE PIECE
My Hero Academia
Dr. STONE
SAKAMOTO DAYS
i tell c (CP/25p)
MASHLE
Black Clover
Ron Kamonohashi: Deranged Detective (SP/CP/33p) by Amano Akira
Mission: Yozakura Family (CP)
Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi (25p)
Me and Roboco
Undead Unluck
Hakaishin Magu-chan
Kamoshirenai Keiji (Oneshot)
Ayakashi Triangle
High School Family
Phantom Seer
BUILD KING
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai

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Cover & LCP
: Kowloon's Ball Parade by Kamada Mikiyasu (Story) & Fukui Ashibi (Art)
CP: Witch Watch, SAKAMOTO DAYS, MASHLE
Additional Pages: i tell c, Phantom Seer
What a ToC, happy for Sakamoto and Mashle for their CPs, tho I’m saddened with Dolphin being rock bottom, guess I should just make up my mind for now for the inevitable

Looking forward to what Witch Watch is exactly about
 

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Glad for Sakamoto probably my favorite of the newest batch, and before that Mashle, which is a success.

continuing to hold the best for Dolphin, if it had started off with this serious plot from the start, then i think it would be a mainstay, didn't care much for everything before we went with this underwater human/fish people arc.
 

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Jump's youtube channel just uploaded the best promo for Roboco.

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What a great ad, not only for roboco but to get in the momentum of jujutsu. I bet the sales will get better
 

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Honto (February 4th)

01. Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook vol. 2
02. One Piece #98
03. Kimetsu no Yaiba Artbook
04. World Trigger #23
05. Death Note Tanhenshuu
09. Owari no Seraph #23
10. Kemono Jihen #13
13. Platinum End #14
14. Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken -Shinsou Ayarokuban- #11
15. Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken -Shinsou Ayarokuban- #12
44. Honomieru Shounen #02
48. Kamonohashi Ron no Kindan Suiri #01
57. 2.5-jigen no Yuuwaku #08
59. Boku to Roboco #02
64. Aimoto Shou Tanhenshuu #01
65. Aimoto Shou Tanhenshuu #02
67. Gaming Ojousama #01
71. Saotome Shimai wa Manga no Tame nara!? #09
73. One Piece Party #07
77. Shakunetsu no Niraikanai #02
78. Hidarikiki no Eren #15
98. Haisha-san, Attattemasu! #02
 
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Cop & Dolphin ranked in the exactly same place as vol.1 kkkk I don't know if i take this as something good or bad but at least it didn't "dropped", but these different rankings are so tricky because here Phantom Seer is 15 positions above Roboco but on Amazon isn't even close to Roboco in both digital and physical, guess Shoseki will tell a more definitive picture.
 

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Cop & Dolphin ranked in the exactly same place as vol.1 kkkk I don't know if i take this as something good or bad but at least it didn't "dropped", but these different rankings are so tricky because here Phantom Seer is 15 positions above Roboco but on Amazon isn't even close to Roboco in both digital and physical, guess Shoseki will tell a more definitive picture.
Pretty sure we can’t use Amazon numbers to judge PS at all, iirc it was unavailable for the majority of the last week because it ran out of stock so quickly. But yes Shoseki should be the most informative of course, especially when it comes to Cop and Dolphin (may or may not have dropped but might have stagnated, which isn’t good because it was already below Magu which also stagnated).

HSF couldn’t even crack Honto though, probably dead on arrival as many anticipated. I’ll never forget you, Gomez.
 

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I'll wait for Shoseki positions to say anything certain, but it's certainly not looking good for HSF.

What's interesting to me is that, if HSF really is a flop, the 3 worst performing series in the magazine right now are all by veterans with a previous hit (Dolphin, Build King, and HSF). Though I guess Build King could still potentially pull a Phantom Seer and sell well despite the bad ToC.
 
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give High School Family an anime just as "I'm From Japan" got then it will take off too.
 

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Jump formally announcing the JJK break with the usual "due to the author's sudden illness" reason on Twitter:
 

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I would take that Reddit post with 0 grain of sand.

Edit: I meant salt not sand....

The JPN title is 堅白, which is literally Hard and White, and not the phrase the reddit post says. Although given Gege’s past use of truncated version of four-character idioms with Chinese origin it’s easy to get 堅白異同 chapter title. If you look up the phrase 堅白同異 in a Jpn dictionary, you will get the same “Hard and White” story that this Reddit post alleges to be the “mistranslation”: when you see a rock you can only tell that it’s white, not that it’s hard. When you feel a rock, you can only tell that it’s hard, not that it’s white. But neither hard and white is the rock. It’s part of dialectic analysis in Gong-sun Longzi, which has been dubbed as sophism.

Hard and White is not a mistranslation or a mistake. It’s a literal translation of choice.
To be honest, given Viz track record, I would not trust their translation either.
I still remember they made a dumb beginner mistake translating the view number of Shinjuku girl in act-age. And there are a lot more translation mistake that I lost count of, too many for a company of that size.
 

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Jump formally announcing the JJK break with the usual "due to the author's sudden illness" reason on Twitter:
why are they announce it tonight/today when the magazine isn't on sale yet???
 

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why are they announce it tonight/today when the magazine isn't on sale yet???
The break wasn't announced in the previous issue. They are doing it now so people don't buy the new issue and get surprised when they see there's no Jujutsu Kaisen chapter.
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Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/4

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook 2
#2 One Piece 98
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba Artbook
#30 Honomieru Shounen 2
#56 Me & Roboco 2
#69 Shakunetsu no Niraikanai 2
#118 Koukousei Kazoku 1
 

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The break wasn't announced in the previous issue. They are doing it now so people don't buy the new issue and get surprised when they see there's no Jujutsu Kaisen chapter.
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Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/4

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba Official Fanbook 2
#2 One Piece 98
#3 Kimetsu no Yaiba Artbook
#30 Honomieru Shounen 2
#56 Me & Roboco 2
#69 Shakunetsu no Niraikanai 2
#118 Koukousei Kazoku 1
It was a fluke they said. It was the final Kimetsu volume push they said. The story will drag the sales down they said. Without practically any push campaign, without the weekly rankings, Phantom Seer looking to be a heavy seller. The Matsuura gang ain’t going anywhere Nak. We’re here and we’re sending Phantom to the moon 🚀 🚀



Volume 1 of Phantom Seer has also ranked at #215 on shoseki today!
 

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A big jump for PS first day position with vol.1 starting at #76. Hopefully the drop for the rest of the week isn't big
 
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