Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[c3pman]

Just some comments:

Witch Watch - Nico is too obnoxious, hating her as a character.
I tell C - This manga is a huge mess...
Nine Dragons - Love the art and the pace. I hope it sticks around.

 

[SharkBait]

Wonder if we will get tons of new action series in the next batches since HeroAca is starting its sunsetting phase.

Actually, I guess Jujutsu and HeroAca could end in the same year.

 

[Exorcist1995]

I Tell C is so horrible my god

What the hell happened with this story!

Why can´t the Jump have a nice detective story, holy shit I usually don´t want mangas to be cancelled because that sucks, but that thing is just horrible.

Undead Unluck had a pretty good chapter this week, this arc has an strong opening so far.
Jujutsu is amazing as always and MHA seems that will have the obligatory shonen timeskip

 

[Stivie]

why are you saying that I Tell C is being canceled ?

After all, the main objective has not been achieved, on the contrary.

 

[Exorcist1995]

why are you saying that I Tell C is being canceled ?

Because that thing screams axe since chapter 2
just like build kings

 

[James Rye]

MHA: Final Arc, here we go! Gotta say though for a series called "academia" it didn't really had that much school stuff. The first year guys already felt like full working heroes rather than students to become heroes. Then again the times they joined school were tough and are tough now. Kinda harsh of the government and the heroes to say they will from now on only protect a reduced sphere, I doubt that decision will win them many fans. Curious to see how society as a whole will develop with those changes.

JjK: 2nd time now, lol, wonder when he gonna fake die a third time? XD

TES: Nice! I liked that he got hit but that reaction... the kiddo is a bonafide pervert!

DS: Things are heating up everywhere now. Good stuff.

BC: Not reading.

MYF: Stuff happened the chapter. But it looked neat which is a plus point.

HSF: This escalated quickly.... o.o

UU: WHA- Damn! How did Billy do that?! And next we get Feng? Awesome, really looking forward to this guy and his power.

NDBP: Lol, that guy is such a samurai. Really like his character. Also liked the sneaky tricks and the "ghost members" showing that even if you hit the ball you haven't won the game just by that. 4th member acquired (and a time-part job as well). Hope it finds its fans in Japan to live long enough to tell its story whole.

SD: Rofl! Japanese Grannies being the real killers of Japan. Even Sakamoto can hardly hold a candle to them. XD
And who ever goes after Hana's hand will live in great danger if the mom looks away from her chubby hubby's hands even for a second. xD

M&R: This kid is on its way to become a real creepy stalker.

i tell c: I did not expect that development and this was not a good one nor was it entertaining. Yeah, this is soooooooooooo over now. No way this development was planned from the start, this was something to happen way later if at all.

MMM: You know you got all those insane power levels for magic and wands and stuff and then there is Mash just crushing them all. I know it is super popular in Japan but I just can't find it as funny as in OPM (I think it's the hair, Mash got too many plus points in life at least Saitama had lost his hair in pursuit of power. /Jk). I hope the next guy last longer than 1 and a half chapter.

WW: Okay chapter, fun spell, hot mom, promising ending. Think we might get our first real battle here?

HBC&D: Dolphin hardly plays a role nowadays. Also careful with that knife, lady!

AT: I know I repeat myself but dayum is Suzu a pervert! Look at those shivers! And Rochka a cute as always. Hope she becomes a member of the main cast.

PS: Why is this selling so much but staying so low? Flashback was good, battle conclusion probably next chapter.

BK: This is SO ending, isn't it? Like come on, we are already at extra Vigor outside the color system! I am not sure which will end first i tell c, HBC&D or BK. Probably BK, then i tell c then HBC&D.

SxF: I hope Franky can find happiness someday~ Maybe he can still fulfill his dream and make the world a better place with his inventions, they are fun after all, if a bit bulky.

Excuse me: Love this crazy cast. <3 And those two are so on their way of becoming best friends over their teeth stuff, lol. Also those "old men" are looking damn dandy and fine, they gonna get a lot of female fans for sure.

K#8: Cool battle, cool ending. This is nice hype up building.

 

[Aeneas]

And I didn't know he was (still is?) working as an assistant on Yozakura.

 

[Stivie]

i tell c: I did not expect that development and this was not a good one nor was it entertaining. Yeah, this is soooooooooooo over now. No way this development was planned from the start, this was something to happen way later if at all.

This kind of development has already had in Undead Unluck and it was early.

I am not saying that it will not be canceled, only that it is a development that happens from time to time

 

[tirakai]

I get the impression I tell C has just finished its prologue, rather than rushing ahead Ghost Writer style.

 

[Discomusic]

1. Dr. Stone: Chapter of the week two times in a row: last time for the despair, this time for the emerging hope! I love that they look desperate in their counterattack, for the first time I feel that the Kingdom of Science may not end this battle unscathed.
2. Mission: Yozakura Family: Although we are still in a transitional phase, the battle of wits has been very engaging to read at it is probably the most enjoyable fight of this arc until now. Next week we should get the conclusion.
3. Sakamoto Days: I like a relaxed chapter from time to time in my action mangas. This one has been funny as hell, Sakamoto met probably his most fearsome opponents until now. The mind-reading power of Shin isn't all that convenient after all.
4. Hard-boiled Cop and Dolphin: As I was saying last week, I loved the slice of life aspects of this (see Sakamoto above) but luckily I can still enjoy the full action path it has taken for this end. It still adds a little Tamura-humour in the mix from time to time, like the part at the beginning where Samejima realizes what he has done. I'll miss this.
5. My Hero Academia: I avoid spoilers all week to enjoy the full Jump every Sunday afternoon (like those Roboco guys). So what shocked me the most in this chapter was the title, I didn't expect that, probably nothing will be the same from now on.
6. Magu-chan: God of Destruction: One of the best non-plot driven chapters in a while, and a good occasion to develop one of the newest addition of the ever-growing cast. The funniest part is how is difficult for Zonze Ge to approach Magu, sometimes we may forget that he is considered as the GOAT of this universe.
7. Undead Unluck: Not the greatest chapter, it has one of those conclusions that need more than a reading, but it's still a good appetizer for the developments that will unfold. It's like those One Piece chapters where epic characters interact with each other between one arc and the next.
8. Jujutsu Kaisen: Liked the chapter, the revelations and all that, but I hope this sort of "tournament arc" won't get too complicated. Many modern shonen mangas use HxH as a source for their tropes, but if there is one that should be left there is the tendency of overcomplicating the rules.
9. Highschool Family: Oh my God they did it! At the 31st try, finally a chapter that I found funny from beginning to end!! When the two "families" crossed at the bridge was the Nadir of nonsensical humour. It was the perfect chapter to take advantage of the visibility given by the high ToC placement.
10. The Elusive Samurai: Liked the chapter. This manga probably found its footing and with this arc the narrative is working for the first time. All what's needed was for the MC to have a short term goal to pursue.
11. Witch Watch: Average chapter (although we still don't have many chapters to understand what does "average" mean for this series). Not really great in its humour, mostly because I still think we need more characters to interact with the main duo. But I give it points for the setup of an overarching plot in the last pages. I am curious about its first ToC placement, it can go either way for me.
12. Black Clover: Actually the best chapter in a while, but I may be starting to grow a little tired of Black Clover. This manga has a lot of flashbacks for its lots of characters, but they tend to be condensed in a single chapter when it may have been useful to give them more space. It's a pity because the ideas behind this one were actually good.
13. Nine Dragons' Ball Parade: Didn't like it much this time. The end of the challenge was good, but I hoped they wouldn't convince the ney guy straight away but rather have him join the team after some volumes worth of content. Probably everyone has his ideal spokon in his mind that plays the spokon tropes exactly how he want them to be, so it gets disappointing when in your opinion they don't "make the right choice".
14. Phantom Seer: I knew that I spoke too soon last week when I said that I was starting to enjoy it... this chapter was even important storywise but the execution fell completely flat. Next week should be great for action so let's hope for a good chapter. And congrats for those 100k copies anyway.
15. Mashle: We repeat the eternal cycle with a new invicible bully to smash. This one has been built upon many chapters so I hope it will last more than the others.
16. Ayakashi Triangle: Reaaaally lots of fanservice spoiled the enjoyment for me - this time even with the loli brand! Although I concede that it was functional to the story and that the overall plot of the chapter was actually good.
17. Build King: Transitional chapter whis week, as transitional as a closing series in a rush can be. I don't even remember much of what happened save for the fact that it exists a rainbow color, something that Shima probably wanted to reveal at volume 30 or so.
18. Me & Roboco: What happened to you, Roboco-chan? Why did you forget how to be funny? Stop acting creepy with your chapters and return to deliver your best humour, before I start to think that you already have run out of ideas!
19. i tell c: I don't really know how to define whatever was that chapter. Even if we go by the theory that this is all just an introduction, there is no reason to condense all of this stuff in a single chapter. This may become the fastest axe I have seen since I started to regularly follow Jump (best record so far is Time Paradox with 14 chapters).

 

[SharkBait]

Feels like its just a coin flip for I Tell C to be ending or not, arguments for it lasting and not lasting could both be made with logic and reasoning...I dont think I can choose a side yet, depends on what the next mystery antagonist is.

 

[c3pman]

I don't think I tell C is rushing towards the end... but God... how bad it is!! The art is really good, but the story and the plot twists..! Awful!

Spoiler

The brother of the detective (one of the, apparently, main characters) is supposed to be dead!! There was not a hint of emotion at all in those scenes... really it was so bad

(Although Our Blood Oath was worse)

 

[James Rye]

I think I forogt about Magu-chan.

Magu-chan: Uneras saving the chapter as she saved the whole manga. Honestly her introduction to the story with her troll character and powers and ideas really made the whole good-feeling series a lot funnier. Like she shows up, drops does something, funny stuff is happening even when she leaves. Good character.

 

[Stivie]

ItellC will release the 1st volume in May. Along with Undead, mashle, PS and yozakura.

There will be no veteran, that is, it will be a relatively weak month. So I don't think the editors would just put ItellC on if they weren't sure that it will have reasonable sales at the very least.

 

[Exorcist1995]

ItellC will release the 1st volume in May. Along with Undead, mashle, PS and yozakura.

There will be no veteran, that is, it will be a relatively weak month. So I don't think the editors would just put ItellC on if they weren't sure that it will have reasonable sales at the very least.

Are you sure abour that

 

[Aipom626]

ItellC will release the 1st volume in May. Along with Undead, mashle, PS and yozakura.

There will be no veteran, that is, it will be a relatively weak month. So I don't think the editors would just put ItellC on if they weren't sure that it will have reasonable sales at the very least.

If anything, I'd say they maybe threw it a bone, if anything at all. Speaking as an ITC fan, it is easily going to get smoked by all four of those series you mentioned. I hope it does passably, but I can easily see think bombing in a magnificent spectacle lol.

 

[FireFantasyVI]

I wouldn't say Yozakura was bad this week, but I can safely say I'm tired of the pattern the fights have been following, showing some conflict, throwing in a backstory, comparing it to the family member, and then Hazakura Bankai. The 2 enemies don't seem threatening at all in this fight which doesn't help. That being said, it's not over and maybe it'll go somewhere interesting

Undead was great, surprising ending for this fight and I'm interested to see where Summer goes

Mashle was alright, not a big fan of the music guy and the last few pages felt really fast, but otherwise the usual stuff

Ayakashi was also alright, more fanservice than usual, and this arc is going to be at least another chapter so not a ton happening here

I liked Magu more than I thought I would after seeing it would be about the sea urchin character. Strong premise, however it lost me a bit when Uneras got involved, it rather if it stuck to the awkward interactions

Dolphin was alright, not super invested in the action, and looks like it might be moving to it's end

This might have been the first Roboco chapter I found straight up unfunny. The jokes didn't land at all, which is very strange for Roboco

Phantom was pretty good, decent backstory to set up the fight. The last panel has me excited

As opposed to Roboco, HSF probably had it's funniest chapter so far. Almost all of the jokes landed

Build King is going full battle shonen and I don't really like it. The last pages make it seem it's speeding through stuff at light speed

Sakamoto was pretty good, solid comedy and cute Father/Daughter moments

Elusive was pretty good as well, the competition was interesting

I have no idea what i tell c is doing, but even giving it the benefit of the doubt that this is 100% intentional and not editorial telling it to speed up, I don't like it at all. The emotional beats don't land at all, and it's moving warp speed

Witch was good, humor was okay, but the ending has me excited

Kowloon was also good, decent conclusion, but moving a bit slowly. If anything, I'm more interested to see the pitcher/catcher dynamic develop

 

[galaxy-juice]

ItellC will release the 1st volume in May. Along with Undead, mashle, PS and yozakura.

There will be no veteran, that is, it will be a relatively weak month. So I don't think the editors would just put ItellC on if they weren't sure that it will have reasonable sales at the very least.

Even if they had high initial expectations when they chose that date (which I'm not convinced they did), more chapters have been released since then. Like with Samurai 8, initial expectations do not necessarily reflect reality.

Without more data, we have almost no information to make arguments about the future of the series aside from the story itself. The TOC placement next week will probably be the most telling for what to expect from i tell c.

I honestly feel like the author realized he didn't know how to write a detective series and began to panic. The story is all over the place right now... it might be able to recover, but I'm not too hopeful.

 

[Stivie]

Even if they had high initial expectations when they chose that date (which I'm not convinced they did), more chapters have been released since then. Like with Samurai 8, initial expectations do not necessarily reflect reality.

Without more data, we have almost no information to make arguments about the future of the series aside from the story itself. The TOC placement next week will probably be the most telling for what to expect from i tell c.

I honestly feel like the author realized he didn't know how to write a detective series and began to panic. The story is all over the place right now... it might be able to recover, but I'm not too hopeful.

It is true that Samurai 8 did not have exceptional sales. They were very disappointing.

But compared to the other manga that had debuted with him (Tokyo shinobi squad, double taisei and beast children), sales of samurai 8 were better.

And as "it seems" that The elusive samurai was well accepted, the most logical thing would be to put it to be sold first, since as I said before, May is going to be a weak month.

Even Witch Watch would make more sense in being put up for sale first than ItellC.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

Lil' Earlier this week.

Roboco: I get what this was going for but I don't think it succeeded at all. Roboco is better when it doesn't hyper focus it's absurdity into one character and instead does so for a scenario. A shame that we lost an otherwise good character (for now.)

Witch: This one was funny but not that great. I don't have much hope that the "villain" introduced at the end will turn things around either. I could be wrong of course and this was all just set up for a more interesting story down the line but the lack of focus and the weak leads are going to be an uphill battle that I'm not sure this series has enough momentum to overcome.

Dolphin: I enjoyed this if only because Tamura's hilarious use of dialog came back. Though sadly other than that there wasn't much going on. Though the scene at the end of the chapter was probably the most iconic of the week.

Yozakura: It's settling into a pattern and I'm not sure if I like it. I don't hate it though, and the art just keeps getting better. I will say this much though: it's easy to read through, and it helps that the humor at the start and the characters are still extremely likable. Though I wonder how long the series can coast on those things in the middle of a long fight like this?

Mashle: Another transitional-ish chapter. It feels weird that with the magazine that coined Jump Pacing™ that this one is moving so slowly. I guess it's a good indication that Mash will be around for a while? Either way the promise of something happening next week is enough to get me through this one.

Sakamoto: I'm so glad this went back to humor after that first arc, and finding comedy in the mundane is my favorite thing. I'm not in a hurry to see Sakamoto tackle the larger plot right now, as long as it treats it as an overall narrative thing they're building toward. Sakamoto having a hard time against the superior being that is the granny with a mission is the best thing.

Undead: I wouldn't say this shocked me, but it was executed so well that I don't even care that it was predictable. Not only that but it did set up wonderfully for the upcoming arc. I haven't been excited for new events in UU for a while, and this has so much promise. Not to mention the artwork for this was also wonderfully executed. Love those spreads!

Samurai: Yet another great chapter. I dunno if before Matsui was shooting for something slightly different or just needed to grow into this new narrative but now he's firing on all cylinders. The anachronisms, the artwork, and Tokiyuki getting just as excited as I was with this "testing" scenario all gelled well this week. I like that unlike Neuro and Assclass it's taken very little time for the protag to grow into their role in the series.

JJK: Now I'm back on the JJK train. This is what I wish we had several weeks ago, and makes me question if the last month was necessary at all? (While I'm asking questions what happened to Choso? He's my new favorite.) I'm interested in seeing how Gege will take on a possible tournament arc. Also that brief look into Yuuji's past is a great hook. This whole chapter has almost completely renewed my interest in the series.

I tell C: This poor series being a victim of Jump Pacing™ I did technically like (jury is out on whether I enjoyed it) this but lord was that pacing atrocious. They tried to go for emotional beats but because it's in Jump it was all way too fast and felt more hilarious than touching. I dunno if it's being cancelled or if the writer is panicking but this is really not the way to go for the series even if again, I was okay with it. Even as a prologue this was a huge mess, and should have maybe been just one case rather than one or two forgettable ones and then a rushed third one. It's like the story has no confidence in it's premise and is trying to show its hand in a desperate attempt to not be forgotten.

Overall not a bad week for the series I read. I was almost tempted to start MHA weekly again but nah. Can't wait to see the current events in volume format!