Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Stivie]

lol dude, Magu-chan its telling a really good story, its been amazing.

spinning my prayer wheel quickly hoping it gets an anime announcement.

Do not sell.

The story may be the best in the world. but it’s not bringing new readers.

 

[savethecat]

Personally, if the Black Clover movie new is true, I'm expecting it to be a typical anime movie, not a manga arc movie. But i'm not familiar with what's going on in the anime and manga currently, so idk.

JJK and Demon Slayer have self contained enough arcs that work as film continuations. Stuff like Black Clover, and MHA just don't feel they'd work doing films adapting manga arcs

 

[DreamcastDazia]

Personally, if the Black Clover movie new is true, I'm expecting it to be a typical anime movie, not a manga arc movie. But i'm not familiar with what's going on in the anime and manga currently, so idk.

JJK and Demon Slayer have self contained enough arcs that work as film continuations. Stuff like Black Clover, and MHA just don't feel they'd work doing films adapting manga arcs

Could possibly be adapting the novel/s in black clovers case

Only thing for JJK that makes sense is volume 0. Prequel, an easy way for allow newcomers to see if they'll like the series, they don't have to adapt it into multiple OVA's, it has the perfect length for a move I'd say though it won't be a long one, and that means it won't be the Hidden Inventory arc which would be stupid to make into a film

 

[Blink22]

Elusive Samurai getting two CPs in a row might be the earliest I've seen a new manga getting two CP's in a row or even two CPs at all. Or was there any other manga in recent years that got its second CP by chapter 11?

Where’s the source that Elusive Samurai is getting a color page next issue?

 

[galaxy-juice]

And I don't know what magu chan is doing to deserve these positions in the toc with such poor sales.

TOC positions =/= sales. Please stop perpetuating this false narrative.

The age of canonical Shonen movies is upon us. Thank you, Demon Slayer: Mugen Train. XD

Seriously, though. If we’re really going down that route, then I hope that we can minimize the gap between Japanese and worldwide launches.

I seriously doubt its going to be canon... unless they want to adapt the full current arc as a single movie (which would be seriously dope, but it's pretty long so I'd be surprised).

Whether it is or it isn't though, I really hope we minimize that gap too. I won't be able to survive the wait for that JJK movie, lol.

 

[Newkerzy]

Personally, if the Black Clover movie new is true, I'm expecting it to be a typical anime movie, not a manga arc movie. But i'm not familiar with what's going on in the anime and manga currently, so idk.

JJK and Demon Slayer have self contained enough arcs that work as film continuations. Stuff like Black Clover, and MHA just don't feel they'd work doing films adapting manga arcs

Pretty much the bolded, even though there are actually some people who are suggesting they could adapt the war arc into a movie.

 

[TheEnhancedExe]

Where’s the source that Elusive Samurai is getting a color page next issue?

Nvm, I misread. I wrongly assumed the new ToC was pinned already, but it was last weeks. My bad.

 

[Archaon]

Do not sell.

The story may be the best in the world. but it’s not bringing new readers.

Imagine the Jump readers who bought the magazine, read it and then vote for the series. If they like the chapter that week it gave the series better position next week. PS are either not most people best choice for most week or it fans simply not participate in the polls. Magu as a SoL/gag series generate better weekly goodwill.

 

[yadayada]

Pretty much the bolded, even though there are actually some people who are suggesting they could adapt the war arc into a movie.

Uhhhh...how? Even a 2 hours movie would end up having to go at pretty much 9 chapters per episode pacing...

JJK movie isn't surprising in the slightest; BC movie somewhat is since it's very likely to be a poor performer.

 

[dokideku]

hmm, if the situation is that people are not voting for phantom seer for real then nothing can be done but it's gonna be interesting either way because last week, japanese people have already started to share photos of them voting for phantom seer lol so either way, we are gonna know what's up in a couple of weeks probably. Either because people are gonna start being loud about voting and not seeing results or maybe because the ToC might change bc of these votes but who knows.

I don't think the "conspiracy" against phantom seer is true, what i'm starting to think is that perhaps phantom seer is at the end because of the horror aspects or maybeeee a suggestion from the creators/editor? they don't sound worried at all in their author comments, the story is building up nicely, they introduced a group of villains and they are not even done with one of them, and lastly they have just announced the 100k copies in circulation thing. I'm starting to think Phantom Seer's position is not much a reflection of its performance but the strategy the magazine decided for it ? (and also maybe, to have people read the magazine completely). Don't know, just trying to make it make sense without falling in the "sabotage" narrative. A color page would be very nice though, hope that's happening soon.

 

[Franz]

The age of canonical Shonen movies is upon us.

Canonical?

 

[pamuchi]

The age of canonical Shonen movies is upon us. Thank you, Demon Slayer: Mugen Train. XD

Seriously, though. If we’re really going down that route, then I hope that we can minimize the gap between Japanese and worldwide launches.

Jjk sure, but Bc might end up being an original movie.

 

[galaxy-juice]

hmm, if the situation is that people are not voting for phantom seer for real then nothing can be done but it's gonna be interesting either way because last week, japanese people have already started to share photos of them voting for phantom seer lol so either way, we are gonna know what's up in a couple of weeks probably. Either because people are gonna start being loud about voting and not seeing results or maybe because the ToC might change bc of these votes but who knows.

I don't think the "conspiracy" against phantom seer is true, what i'm starting to think is that perhaps phantom seer is at the end because of the horror aspects or maybeeee a suggestion from the creators/editor? they don't sound worried at all in their author comments, the story is building up nicely, they introduced a group of villains and they are not even done with one of them, and lastly they have just announced the 100k copies in circulation thing. I'm starting to think Phantom Seer's position is not much a reflection of its performance but the strategy the magazine decided for it ? (and also maybe, to have people read the magazine completely). Don't know, just trying to make it make sense without falling in the "sabotage" narrative. A color page would be very nice though, hope that's happening soon.

I'm not an expert enough to know how likely these are, but it's nice to hear some new theories about the situation. Whether it's a voting thing or a conscious decision, I think there are a lot of fair explanations that don't require some kind of petty editorial.

At the very least, it gets people talking about it, that's for sure.

 

[Neala897]

I really hope Mappa stuff got enough brains and balls for movie be volume 0 and not anything else

 

[Newkerzy]

Uhhhh...how? Even a 2 hours movie would end up having to go at pretty much 9 chapters per episode pacing...

JJK movie isn't surprising in the slightest; BC movie somewhat is since it's very likely to be a poor performer.

You ask me. I don't know how anyone would think that's even a remote possibility.

 

[Ctkk]

I can see the BC movie adapting the manga because the anime is gonna end in such a major cliffhanger. Perhaps not a completely faithful adaption and more of anime-original ending to the story, just in movie form, depending on when it's gonna be released. But still a mandatory watch if you want to know what happens next.

 

[Franz]

A Black Clover anime film based on the manga would not make much sense .... the manga material there so far is both too little for a self-contained film, and too much for a film that intends to transpose the whole manga.

 

[SharkBait]

The age of canonical Shonen movies is upon us. Thank you, Demon Slayer: Mugen Train. XD

Seriously, though. If we’re really going down that route, then I hope that we can minimize the gap between Japanese and worldwide launches.

Hm nothing in that tweet says canonical manga arc movie.

Unless the current arc is ending, theres nothing for the movie to adapt.

 

[Stivie]

Imagine the Jump readers who bought the magazine, read it and then vote for the series. If they like the chapter that week it gave the series better position next week. PS are either not most people best choice for most week or it fans simply not participate in the polls. Magu as a SoL/gag series generate better weekly goodwill.

Only that alone is not enough to keep a manga alive forever.

do you think magu chan will last for 100 chapters and win anime if sales don't go up?

The people who defend these magu chan positions forget this detail.

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TOC positions =/= sales. Please stop perpetuating this false narrative.

Mitama started out better than yozakura and was still canceled.

Sales don't interfere with voting, but it's important to keep a manga alive.

 

[4Eyes]

I'm getting Sayuuki flashbacks with Kowloon and it's painful.
Another bottom for PS. Way to go!