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I guess I can add "opinions are so unpopular that people think I'm trolling when I'm being dead serious" to my wall of accolades now, thanks man
No problem lmao 😂
 

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Can't lie, you won't like me saying, this but this doesn't look real to me. lol Sorry if it is
There's literally nothing unusual about their ranking, though. They just like Magu.
 

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My Tier list:


SS:

ONE PIECE, BLACK CLOVER


S:

DR STONE, BLUE BOX, UU, YOZAKURA FAMILY

A:

MASHLE, JUJUTSU, SAKAMOTO DAYS, MHA

B:

COP AND DOLPHIN, MAGU CHAN, AYAKASHI, HIGH SCHOOL FAMILY

C:

NINE DRAGONS BALL PARADE, ELUSIVE SAMURAI

D:

I TELL C, CANDY FLUSH, ME AND ROBOCO
 

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Tweet of Gondaira celebrating the Yozakura cover and lead color pages:

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And tweet of Gondaira showing how he drew the cover:
 

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Both Yozakura and Cop & Dolphin feel like they are entering the climax. I don’t expect either of them to make it past summer. Though Yozakura at least will probably live another round.
I think Yozakura is going to last longer than that. With the past couple of chapters it look like the manga just introduced a new antagonist for the series
 

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I see climax in the preview for Kowloon, is it for the arc or series?
 

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Roboco CP is a reference to that one Toudou LCP, it even has "mai besuto furendo" written on the side
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I see climax in the preview for Kowloon, is it for the arc or series?
Climax of the "Nine Dragons' Revival" arc
 

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And the problem I had with Elusive just made a stunning return... And Blue Box officially became spokon of mag. Bnha was good. Jjk was good too. I would give Jjk slight better score than Bnha for Gege not being Gege with his "love" for family"love"
 

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Yozakura didn't do much for me, strategy was cool, but it felt like just dumping a bunch of special moves on a stationary target for an entire chapter. I'd imagine fans of the series would enjoy it though

Undead was great, normally I don't love fake deaths but considering the rules of this universe I don't mind it at all

Mashle was pretty good, didn't feel like there was a ton of substance to this one, but the ending gag was the most I've laughed at this series in a while

Ayakashi was good, the light hearted bits near the start were honestly really cute. And then it got kinky...

This was the first chapter for Magu that actually made me enjoy Muscar's presence, so that's a good thing

Dolphin continues it's streak of strong chapters, with a great last panel. That being said, I am praying this ends as soon as possible. Really feels like it's overstayed it's welcome

Roboco was great, had it's strongest chapter in a while. Who doesn't love a Gori focused chapter

HSF was decent, the tennis stuff isn't nearly as funny as the volleyball stuff, but it was still enjoyable, hoping for a bit of a breather from the sports stuff though

Sakamoto was pretty good, solid mix of action and comedy, as to be expected

Elusive was also pretty good, glad to learn more about the retainers, and I love the setup for the kids fending off the incoming soldiers

i tell c continues to be bad, nothing really to say. The ending can't come soon enough

Witch had another solid chapter, not a lot to say

Kowloon was good, but at this point I just wonder if it'll get U19'd or not

This was my favorite Blue Box chapter so far, I like how Taiki's introspection is being handled, and I actually wouldn't mind a love rival

Candy continues to kinda exist, not being terrible but not being impactful. That being said, I am not looking forward to an exam arc

JJK was incredible this week, genuinely blown back by it. Dr Stone and BC were great too
 

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Jujutsu Kaisen has been very amazing this week. One of the best chapters of the entire series. And it would have been my favorite chapter of this week, but this Black Clover chapter. I've absolutely loved everything of this Black Clover chapter.
 

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This week's top 5:
1. Magu-chan: God of Destruction - I love watching Magu-chan give his food reviews, and it was interesting to see the interactions between Napu and Muscar. Watching Napu develop over time has been one of the surprise facets of the series that I've really ended up enjoying.
2. Mission: Yozakura Family - Beautiful cover and LCP pages. Gondaira is truly the strongest author in the current lineup when it comes to coloring. The chapter itself was also massively hypeworthy. So much satisfaction spread all throughout the entire chapter, which was also almost twice as long as a normal-length chapter. The dude is a machine!!
3. Witch Watch - Glad to see that last week was just a fluke. This was actually super funny, and a pretty unique take on the common trope found throughout romcoms. Very well-done this week, and I had a lot of laughs throughout the whole chapter.
4. Me & Roboco - Finally Roboco has found its footing again with its first genuinely funny chapter in what feels like months. It's really hard for a Gorilla-focused chapter to disappoint.
5. I Tell C - Actually a pretty interesting twist for how they went about solving this mystery, but I'm looking forward to the girl being the main focus of the chapter again next week. The last few chapters have been missing her charm and funny moments.

The best of the rest:
6. Mashle - Both funny and filled with an excellently-drawn fight that's currently unfolding. That last page actually made me laugh out loud with how bothered that villain seemed to be by Mash's comment.
7. Undead Unluck - Definitely wouldn't have expected this type of development many months ago. I can't wait for this fight to be over, but I'm really curious to see what this development is going to mean for the main cast afterwards.
8. High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku - Another solid chapter. This series actually seems to do sports-comedy shockingly well. I wonder if the author will try having the mother and sister join some sort of club to try building on this successful trend the men in the family have found in the series.
9. Ayakashi Triangle - Another solid chapter in the fanservice department, and the new setting that was unveiled is one that I'm really hoping gets explored further either next week or in the near future. Ayakashi is really doing a great job at building up Suzu's character.
10. Sakamoto Days - While the chapter itself was decent, when compared to the rest of WSJ's lineup this week that really had a stellar week, it didn't really do anything groundbreaking. Some of the pages still feel a little too sketchy for my liking, but I'm hoping that the art continues to improve like it has in Undead and Mashle.
11. Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin - Another nice chapter of the series. Chako is definitely in the "must protect" category, so I fully support Shark's total fury with that guy whose name I forget.
12. Candy Flurry - Each chapter gets fractionally better than the last, but I'm still finding the overall series to be on the dull side. I'll give it a few more chapters though since there has at least been a tiny bit of improvement since the beginning.
13. Blue Box - Another pretty boring chapter. It's very clear that the author is in no rush to develop the characters or make things actually move forward in the plot, since I fell like almost nothing noteworthy to the main plot has happened since the end of the first chapter.
 

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Will say

Magu-chan by far had the best chapter of the week, really amazing. Witch Watch was up there too.

Most of the rest were good, though they were largely mid-arc, or just the continuation of some conclusion set in motion a chapter ago.

Dolphin and Cop has me most intrigued for next week as well as BLack Clover and the Elusive Samurai.

I fear Blue Box, Candy Flurry, and i Tell C are all in warning or red alert territory. (Blue Box is a little slow and the main character overcomes every dilemma way to logically and reasonably that there is litrally no drama, Candy Flurry just seems elementary compared to the rest of the magazine, I Tell C, feels like its on the way out)
 

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Probably the weakest issue in the past two months, though not a bad one overall. Have been re-reading One Piece lately so not having that this week was a shame, especially with the cliffhanger from before.

Great:
1. ( - ) Jujutsu Kaisen - What a great chapter for Mai/Maki. Epic and cool and emotional in the way it needs to be.
2. (+4) Undead Unluck - Just like JJK, UU delivered on the emotions and the action once again. Still undecided if I like this more than the autumn arc yet, but either way it's still excellent. Get out of the bottom three!
3. (+5) Blue Box - We went full-on with the badminton this week, loved it. This was probably Taiki's best chapter so far as well. I'm appreciating how level-headed he is in the face of potential drama (even if he has his goofy traits), I should take some cues when I get worried about those romance flag moments cropping up. Excited to see what this super-early colour page looks like.

Good:
4. ( - ) Black Clover - What a fantastic Black Clover chapter! Sometimes the fights in this series just deliver exactly what you expect - which is usually always fun to read at the bare minimum - but seeing Magna get a time to shine with magic that makes sense, and him taking down one of the most powerful villains of the series so far? That's pretty satisfying stuff to read, especially when it doesn't feel like an ass-pull.
5. (-1) Dr. Stone - Dr Suika is no more, but her impact shall never be forgotten. Just like that revelation at the end... jeez.
6. (+1) My Hero Academia - Really impressed by the movement of Deku throughout the cityscape. Was another fun read but the artwork definitely was my favourite part, especially with how it's all taking place at night during a rainstorm. Can imagine how good this would look animated.
7. (+4) Me & Roboco - A Gorilla and Roboco chapter! Probably my two favourite characters, plus I always find the Urahara chapters especially funny with how Bondo/Gorilla suddenly becomes a thing. Crammed full of Jump references this week as well, nice stuff.
8. (-3) Sakamoto Days - Art felt a little bit manic but nothing that detracted too much from my enjoyment. Love the design of the main villain of this arc - hopefully those on the other floors will be more impactful than this week's however.
9. (-6) Mashle - Nice followup from last week, even if significantly less hype.
10. (+4) Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin - My favourite chapter in a while, loved that final spread. The countdown continues - I give three or four more chapters at this rate.

Fine:
11. (-1) High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku - Not as funny as the volleyball dad chapters, but we're still on the sports focus which I happily welcome. The mum showing up with her vuvuzela was the definite highlight.
12. ( = ) The Elusive Samurai - Nice action at the start, and genuinely didn't think it was going to end up being another recruit for the gang, not bad stuff.
13. (-4) WITCH WATCH - There were gags here but I found the panelling/dialogue didn't make the most of the moments where I should have been laughing. Shoutout to that very sleek colour page though.
14. (+3) Nine Dragons' Ball Parade - Not as soul crushingly disappointing as last week, but still the weakest sports manga this week (can you believe we suddenly have three in the magazine right now?). There's no way this could wrap up and feel satisfying, but at least we got some pages of nice baseball action this week. Just a shame that caricature if a villain brings the mood down.
15. (-2) Magu-chan: God of Destruction - That was endearing. My main takeaway is that it was just another chapter of Magu-chan.
16. (-1) Mission: Yozakura Family - Well, that was more pages than usual I had to read through. It was fine, I guess. Lots of flashy moves happening but it all read as quite chaotic and cluttered. And that lead colour page did nothing for me, the colours were abrasive and it felt messy, but that's typically how I feel about Yozakura Family's super digital artwork anyway. Cover wasn't too bad in comparison.

Bad:
17. (-1) Candy Flurry - Poorly placed flashback, panelling that doesn't convey flow in its action, and character decisions that just read as one trope after another. Even though I thought the first chapter had potential, it's turned into the prime U19 candidate I also thought it would.
18. ( = ) Ayakashi Triangle - As soon as I saw this chapter was about getting new clothes I knew exactly where it was going.
19. ( = ) I tell c - That whole explanation for the magnetic tile was... p a i n f u l. This series is a true test to read every week. I almost feel like I enjoyed Our Blood Oath and Blood King more than this.


I fear Blue Box, Candy Flurry, and i Tell C are all in warning or red alert territory. (Blue Box is a little slow and the main character overcomes every dilemma way to logically and reasonably that there is litrally no drama,
Kinda wild to compare Blue Box to those two at this point. I mean, Blue Box is just about to get one of the earliest colour pages in recent memory in the magazine while I Tell C is a bottom dweller making desperate attempts to latch onto something, and Candy Flurry (while too early to tell) doesn't inspire much hope either. I'd also say Blue Box having a main character who manages to thwart drama with newly introduced potential love interests is hardly a negative. If anything it makes him stand out from the modern romcom protagonists we've had in WSJ with his level-headedness.
 
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HeroAca was pretty good this week. I really enjoyed the action scene with Deku here, though my favorite scene has to be the one with All Might.

Blue Box I liked more than I thought I would. It was really nice to see Taiki make an effort to back up his resolve with some action. Plus we finally get some actual sports in this sports romcom. Definitely feels like the first of a two-parter, and I’m legit kinda excited about the next chapter.
 

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My fear about Blue Box is that it might start to feel a bit stagnant sooner than I expected.
It is quite normal for romcoms, since the plot is usually moving forward quite slowly, but I think the author needs to add something else apart from the sports element. It still is a good read, don't get me wrong.

MHA was ok, not too invested in the current fight.
Dr. Stone is starting to wrap up the arc quite nicely.
Not much to say about the other series I read.
 

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1. Jujutsu Kaisen: it's been a while since the last time it got chapter of the week treatment. Creepiness, sadness, cruelty,...it had everything we can expect from this series. These sub-plots risk to become more interesting than the culling game itself.
2. Mission: Yozakura Family: Great chapter that used all the benefits it had this week (cover, extended pages,...) to its advantage. The united family is strong, Kawashita is even stronger but Taiyo in protagonist mode is the strongest of them all. Great week of action from this series.
3. Hard-boiled cop and Dolphin: As the biggest HBC&D fan out here I have this to say: I do not wish for it to survive. I wish instead for it to end soon with a satisfactory climax like the one it is preparing for right now. Didn't you think that Samejima is the coolest? I knew it from the very beginning!
4. Dr. Stone: Everyone is back and we are ready to do science again! We'll deal with the new science shenanigans chapters later, for now let's enjoy the heartwarmness of the moment. That thing at the end is...dangerous, narratively speaking.
5. Undead Unluck: I like how these chapters show UU's take on a shonen staple trope, "fighting to protect someone". It's one of those tropes that never get old, as long as the execution can deliver. Luckily, this is the case for this series.
6. Black Clover: This fight was one of the best that Black Clover showed us in recent times. The concept that you can fight on par with everyone and then the one with most determination wins is very brilliant and also very fitting to the character with this power (expecially because he achieved it without the other character he usually hangs around with).
7. The Elusive Samurai: That's a good chapter that showed us that the main character still has some flaws and is willing to fix them with hard work. By the way, it doesn't matter much but for an update about my reading of Assassination Classroom re-edition, that one is also improving a lot since the first chapters.
8. Sakamoto Days: Loved the map at the beginning, One Piece could use one of these every now and then. Chapter with a lot of action and an interesting villain with wacky powers, good enough for providing an entertaining chapter.
9. Nine Dragons' Ball Parade: It was like reading one of those chapters from Eyeshield 21, when a new opponent debuts and is presented in a way that makes you think this new challenge is just impossible, and you can feel the despair of the Devil Bats. Between this and the page extension, I'm starting to think that maybe it will survive at least one more round.
10. Blue Box: Still floating in the middle for me, I can't say I really enjoying it but I can feel it is diverse. It's not really bias towards the genre because I loved the one-shot, but I can't say I'm into the execution yet. I think the characters have some depth, this is its saving grace.
11. Magu-chan: God of Destruction: Muscar is losing its touch. If he keeps getting involved in these silly sub-plots, we will stop considering him a credible threat. They should remove him from the scene for a while and then bring him back as menacious as ever.
12. My Hero Academia: I hear voices in my head, they council me, they understand, they talk to me. They talk to me! They tell me things that I will do, tThey show me things I'll do to you, they talk to me!!!
13. Me & Roboco: A nice, funny chapter of Roboco. I don't know if accepting aliens and afterlife as canon will do good for the series. And that kiddo-erotic subtext is starting to get disturbing.
14. High School Family: Tennis spokon kid is weaker as a subplot than volley spokon dad, although I loved the gag with the random vuvuzela. Maybe it is time to return to other non-spokon related subplots (I never thought that this is turning into a legit spokon, but rather that we are supposed to find hilarious a serious spokon with a silly premise).
15. Witch Watch: Not so bad actaully, definitely a step forward from the last chapter, but nothing of real interest anyway. The new character didn't work for me much but has room for improvement.
16. Candy Flurry: You know what? I actually liked the first half of the chapter this time, I was kind of invested in the character's background and even in the subsequent fight. But the way it ended was really abrupt and a real disappointment. And I am not sure and exam arc is what we currently need, it didn't go well for Build King.
17. Mashle: A great Mashle chapter for its lovers, I guess. Unfortunately I lost my love for the series. All I can see is Mash finding a new absurd way to overcome the difficulty with his muscles and...hey, he has a point there. Who the hell was that guy, I thought he was new?
18. Ayakashi Triangle: This time the bad ranking is due to disappointment: the first half of the chapter had captured me and was reminding of when we got that flashback of Garaku that I loved. Then, apart for the usual fanservice bit, it turns out that is another autoconclusive and plot irrelevant story. I can still hope that next week we'll take a look at the larger scheme of things, since we're still at that village.
19. i tell c: Man, what a mess. It tried to be a cool development but it failed miserably. This series may just end with this arc, Phantom Seer style (arc conclusion turned final chapter, no resolution whatsoever). If I have to pick a side in this skirmish, I cheer for the thief.
 

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My ranking for this week:
Great:

Cop and dolphin and Yozakura: The chapter was absolutely great, and the last pages... same for Yozakura family, can't wait for the next chapters
Undead unluck: Nice actions and I already love Sheng
Blue box: The best series of the moment. I really loved the sport scenes, and the main character has really a deep growing
 
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