same for suzaku. if acno wanted. he would have one shot him too.
i am just trying to save these people from the rage they will surely get when erza wrecks suzaku and maybe with a one or two shot.
its like these people erase their memories after each arc.
everyone and their mother knows that fairy tail jobs in the start. marin extreme low diffed erza and was easily standing with natsu and gray. kyria low diffed erza a few pages ago.
my prediction is simple. since natsu has contractual obligation to fight the boss, so he will take selene (though we never had a female boss before). there are three more of these DE. jobing erza fell to one. since erza cant have selene, it goes that erza will be smacking suzaku or his father. and since these are irrelvant character so i dont expect any help for erza and gang
I actually was of the same opinion as you in the beginning, thinking it's the typical fake hype for new villains. But, a difference I noted even back then was that Suzaku destroyed Natsu and Erza with his sheer combat stats. It wasn't some ridiculous hax like what Marin and Kyria did.
My opinion on Suzaku changed only after his feats against Selene.
He has tanked named spells from casual as well as serious Selene. He also managed to injure her. This is not something a fake hype trash will be able to do, and by feats is far superior to ANY Spriggan.
So no, Acno isn't one shotting him IMO. Low diff? Yea
And when I thought more about the portrayal, it is making sense to me.
- 5 DGs = portrayal similar to Acno, monstrous bosses
- George = portrayal similar to Zeref. Will be an end boss like Zeref, but isn't as threatening/overwhelming as Acno
- Black knights = portrayal similar to top Spriggans, aces of the weaker end boss
- Other dragon eaters = portrayal similar to regular Spriggans. weaker than top tier of good guys, but are decently strong nonetheless.
- minions of DGs = ? wild cards? Some of them were fodder like Doom, while others were strong like Wolven, Youko etc
Yes, it does. Erza is blocking in a fashion that wouldn't have blocked the slash to her abs. Satisfy my curiosity. Draw the path you think Suzaku's slash took in the image of Erza blocking. Maybe you can square the circle, and explain how a vertical cut aimed at the head/shoulders managed to make a horizontal wound on Erza's belly. Not only that, but we see the sword break before Erza's wounds open up. If Suzaku broke the sword and wounded Erza with the same cut, the wound and sword breaking would have been simultaneous. It's not like Erza's body knows that it must pause for dramatic effect to start bleeding.
Erza's not faster than Suzaku in the panels lol. You can't get 2 shotted by someone and still claim to be faster. At best, she barely reacted to his first attack. Factor in everything else, and he dusts Erza. He oneshotted Natsu before he could react.
if you want me to square the circle, i will.
sooo in which universe do you think mishma actually draws a line of attack. i mean do you really think mishma gives a damn. lol this is silly as hell.
the three panesl shows that erza was fast enough to move couple of yards in the same time suzaku moved a feet maybe. her sword broke and she got hit.
even if, i believe you. erza lost her sword, she couldnt block this supposed second strike (of which mishma didnt even hint at) because of the broken sword, nothing to do with speed
Erza's not faster than Suzaku in the panels lol. You can't get 2 shotted by someone and still claim to be faster. At best, she barely reacted to his first attack. Factor in everything else, and he dusts Erza. He oneshotted Natsu before he could react.
barely. seriously? erza reacted to the first strike better than jellal reacted to nienhart nuke directed at kagura.
erza was jobbing. suzaku feat indeed show he is marin level atleast. cant wait till the near end of the arc when erza would be actually fighting suzaku or someone even stronger
Acnologia saying that this would be interesting does not in any way imply that Irene can damage him. This has already been debunked. Acnologia also said magic doesn't work on him, which as as statement about Acnologia's durability actually matters. He didn't even say fighting her would be interesting. He was saying that Irene's magical power was pretty impressive for someone taught by Zeref, and that was interesting. In the conversation that follows, he doubt that Zeref could beat him even with Fairy Heart.
Lots of people have the power of the dead. Doesn't make them all capable of killing Zeref. Come to think of it, Irene is dead and Wendy had her remaining power. Wendy ain't killing Zeref with the attack that defeated Nebaru. The attack still has to be powerful enough to defeat and deal lethal damage to Zeref. The fact is Igneel's corpse had enough to make Natsu stronger than Zeref, and anyone else in the Alvarez Empire. Including Irene. This was after he exhausted most of his power fighting Acnologia for 20 minutes. Of which, Igneel had to resort to mostly physical attacks because his flames got no-sold..
Wendy can block Irene's explosions. Irene never actually took Wendy out with her own attacks either. What happened was that Irene enchanted her personality onto Wendy. Then Wendy enchanted her own personality onto Irene, and in an act of desperation Irene clawed at herself to damage Wendy. None of this scales to anything that would even tickle Acno. None of this would even remotely tickle Aldoron or Merc tbh. No magical fireball that Wendy could block with her enchantments (and yes, Wendy can absolutely block Irene's fireballs) is going to hurt Acno when his immunity to magic lets him no-sell Igneel's roars.
Deus Sema isn't DS magic. It's a higher form of Jellal's magic, which is heavenly body magic. Quite frankly, it wouldn't do anything even if were DS magic because Acno is immune to DS magic too. Even if he wasn't, Irene said so herself that the meteor isn't as tough as her own dragon scales, so the rock itself isn't going to break Acnologia's vastly superior dragon scales. The explosion isn't to be hotter than Igneel's roar or have more MP. I don't see why Acno can't just jump up and break the damn thing either, unless we're wanking Erza's strength above Acno's. So yeah, even if we take away Acnologia's broken immunity to magic, one that makes him a bigger threat in combat than FH Zeref, he's still not getting damaged by Irene.
erm no.
all magic done by dragons is technically ds magic, after being enchanted into a ds. normal dragon magic= ds magic
irene scales require ds magic penetrate. dues sema will hurt her, because it is ds magic. erza slash is however not ds magic
we have already seen erza harm rot aconologia. without ds it didnt really harm him, but still looks painful the way he is arcing. even erza had brute to hurt rot acono
Enchanting stuff doesn't stop Acnologia from eating. Acnologia eats magic and enchantments are magic. Eating is irrelevant anyways. Dragon slayers don't have to eat to be resistant to their elements. Eating is only for recovering MP and powerups. He's immune to magic regardless. If worse comes to worse, Acnologia can always cancel an incoming magic attack like Natsu did to melt. Only Acnologia is leagues above Irene, not tiers below August. Acnologia takes less damage from Irene's attacks than Lucy took from melt under Natsu's protection. And this is before factoring in his raw durability.
irene can enchant a shoe. so we either see aconolgia eat te shoe or save his pride and get smacked by it. as long as irene enchant stuffs she could bypass acno abilities
I actually was of the same opinion as you in the beginning, thinking it's the typical fake hype for new villains. But, a difference I noted even back then was that Suzaku destroyed Natsu and Erza with his sheer combat stats. It wasn't some ridiculous hax like what Marin and Kyria did.
My opinion on Suzaku changed only after his feats against Selene.
He has tanked named spells from casual as well as serious Selene. He also managed to injure her. This is not something a fake hype trash will be able to do, and by feats is far superior to ANY Spriggan.
So no, Acno isn't one shotting him IMO. Low diff? Yea
And when I thought more about the portrayal, it is making sense to me.
- 5 DGs = portrayal similar to Acno, monstrous bosses
- George = portrayal similar to Zeref. Will be an end boss like Zeref, but isn't as threatening/overwhelming as Acno
- Black knights = portrayal similar to top Spriggans, aces of the weaker end boss
- Other dragon eaters = portrayal similar to regular Spriggans. weaker than top tier of good guys, but are decently strong nonetheless.
- minions of DGs = ? wild cards? Some of them were fodder like Doom, while others were strong like Wolven, Youko etc
I actually was of the same opinion as you in the beginning, thinking it's the typical fake hype for new villains. But, a difference I noted even back then was that Suzaku destroyed Natsu and Erza with his sheer combat stats. It wasn't some ridiculous hax like what Marin and Kyria did.
My opinion on Suzaku changed only after his feats against Selene.
He has tanked named spells from casual as well as serious Selene. He also managed to injure her. This is not something a fake hype trash will be able to do, and by feats is far superior to ANY Spriggan.
So no, Acno isn't one shotting him IMO. Low diff? Yea
And when I thought more about the portrayal, it is making sense to me.
- 5 DGs = portrayal similar to Acno, monstrous bosses
- George = portrayal similar to Zeref. Will be an end boss like Zeref, but isn't as threatening/overwhelming as Acno
- Black knights = portrayal similar to top Spriggans, aces of the weaker end boss
- Other dragon eaters = portrayal similar to regular Spriggans. weaker than top tier of good guys, but are decently strong nonetheless.
- minions of DGs = ? wild cards? Some of them were fodder like Doom, while others were strong like Wolven, Youko etc
take this up with @Seven777. he thinks hax not hax doesnt matter
it doesnt matter at the end.
we have four BDSK. someone have to take them. they are not relevant like springgans, so team fight for strong good guys is less probable. if natsu is soloing selene, expect erza to solo someone alot stronger than suzaku
natsu will prove himself against selene
and erza will eats a BDSK and not a weak one at that
Erza didn’t blast Acnologia across anything. She did pelt him with so many weapons it pushed him out of the sky. That’s more about physics than anything else though, just like the lauded Christina charge. Mass is still mass.
That’s undebatable. They set a new standard for the verse. An honestly gave us some of the best feats from Alvarez. That doesn’t change what’s happening though. Selene just broke the verse. It’s nice because of the retroactive boost the Acno comparisons net, but it’s true all the same.
stop using physics man. it doesnt work in fairy tail.
and no erza strike on rot aconologia did not look anythink like christina one
selene hasnt broken anything. she effecting another dimension but cant put down suzaku. and suzaku and his peers will most likely fall to the good guys soon
GG => BG. Brandish can alter her self to that size and Brandish thought they would lose to August or Irene even with her help. So again GG <= BG <<< Irene/August. Even if it was combination of power it will still fall short of Irene and August tier.
Suzaku wasn't acknowledged by Selene, she got a tad serious bcs he ticked her off with his cockiness not his prowess. And Acno ram through a time paradox and made an entire world out of it. Acno never once got serious in the series so his upper limit has never been shown. None of the FT members who have fought a DG have noted any of these guys being of Acno either. Legit the DGs and Elefseria had no idea of current Acno's PL so they would have no idea how powerful he actually was. There statements are not enough to say they are stronger than Acno. Their only knowledge comes from outdated info of him.
Except she was relevant since she made Gajeel string enough to hurt Aldo casually lol. No one else there could scratch the dragon bar Natsu and yet Brandish made Gajeel powerful enough to not only hurt him but force him to use bigger attacks. Not only that but Aldo size anything is above the guild bar Natsu's pay grade. So I don't see how that is not relevant lol.
I'm a Laxus fan too, but come on you know it's true lol. If he's strong enough to one shot Natsu and Erza within like 30 secs, he can one shot Laxus too. Laxus needed to give it his all to put down Erza, Suzaku did it with a single blow.
I initially thought maybe it's just usual Mashima shit of fake hyping a new villain, but after seeing him against Selene so far, I think this time it's legit.
Also, exactly. We all know Suzaku is going down sooner or later. If he survives Selene, FT will take him down later. It's always a matter of how it's done.
For example, we now know that DF Natsu defeated a nerfed Aldo on top of another nerf. It makes things far better than Aldo getting rekt by Natsu at full power. As long as Suzaku gets ganged upon, or gets defeated while nerfed, or gets defeated by DF Natsu; I will have no complaint.
i know but my fanboy wouldnt accept that lol but the way hiro writes he will never disrespect/allow laxus to get oneshot in a fight he doesnt have it in him to do that my boi he just rather avoid it.
same for suzaku. if acno wanted. he would have one shot him too.
i am just trying to save these people from the rage they will surely get when erza wrecks suzaku and maybe with a one or two shot.
its like these people erase their memories after each arc.
everyone and their mother knows that fairy tail jobs in the start. marin extreme low diffed erza and was easily standing with natsu and gray. kyria low diffed erza a few pages ago.
my prediction is simple. since natsu has contractual obligation to fight the boss, so he will take selene (though we never had a female boss before). there are three more of these DE. jobing erza fell to one. since erza cant have selene, it goes that erza will be smacking suzaku or his father. and since these are irrelvant character so i dont expect any help for erza and gang
i never said he can im just saying stop the cap with irene bro.
to be honest selene so far she hasnt shown anything that puts her above acno "her power showing in an another world" dont mean jack to me that isnt a DC feat same thing with irene when she can flipping a continent
if you want me to square the circle, i will.
sooo in which universe do you think mishma actually draws a line of attack. i mean do you really think mishma gives a damn. lol this is silly as hell.
the three panesl shows that erza was fast enough to move couple of yards in the same time suzaku moved a feet maybe. her sword broke and she got hit.
even if, i believe you. erza lost her sword, she couldnt block this supposed second strike (of which mishma didnt even hint at) because of the broken sword, nothing to do with speed
barely. seriously? erza reacted to the first strike better than jellal reacted to nienhart nuke directed at kagura.
erza was jobbing. suzaku feat indeed show he is marin level atleast. cant wait till the near end of the arc when erza would be actually fighting suzaku or someone even stronger
i will agree with you after i see laxus saying it would interesting to fight levy. ok?
you dont know anything. its just you opnion. all i know is aconlogia cant kill zeref
wendy with irene instruction one shot a possible zeref tier
isnt irene being weakened by lacarde magic here?
no she cant.
acno already was shocked by irene powers so i think she can tickle them just fine. brandish magic with gajeel had aldron eating mud too
erm no.
all magic done by dragons is technically ds magic, after being enchanted into a ds. normal dragon magic= ds magic
irene scales require ds magic penetrate. dues sema will hurt her, because it is ds magic. erza slash is however not ds magic
we have already seen erza harm rot aconologia. without ds it didnt really harm him, but still looks painful the way he is arcing. even erza had brute to hurt rot acono
irene can enchant a shoe. so we either see aconolgia eat te shoe or save his pride and get smacked by it. as long as irene enchant stuffs she could bypass acno abilities
So no actual explanation. Then I remain unconvinced that there wasn't 2 slashes. Erza blocked a verticle slash to her head/shoulders. Then her sword broke. Then Suzaku and Erza stared at eachother, and only after that did a wound open up horizontally across her body. Both the position and timing implies that there were 2 slashes. I am willing to change my mind on this, provided you can show me the path Suzaku's cut made in the panel of Erza blocking. But you won't. Suzaku is truly the goat. He is not only faster than Erza, but faster than Erza fans are willing to admit.
If Erza was faster than Suzaku, or even just as fast, then she could dodge even if she had no sword. Like how Jellal dodge several of her slashes when they fought. Which btw, isn't something that I believe he'll pull off against Suzaku. Sure, Erza did better than Jellal did against Neinhart. But Jellal wasn't using meteor to save Kagura. And yes, barely. She didn't react to the 2nd hit at all.
That's a ridiculous response. What Laxus won't say to an opponent that he frankly will never fight has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Irene can't hurt Acno with magical attacks because Acno is resistant to magic, up till the point where he is completely unscratched by Igneel's roar. Irene won't hurt Acno with physical attacks because Acno is stronger than Natsu with Ignia's flames, and Mercphobia is bigger and stronger than Irene.
Like I said, it doesn't matter if deus sema has dragon slaying properties. Acnologia is immune to DS magic too. He can no sell roars from Igneel. He's also stronger and faster than Erza, so he can just smash the meteor.
How is it my opinion to say that Irene can't kill Zeref? Zeref himself believed that only Igneel's power had the potential to kill him. Wendy didn't beat a Zeref tier. Faris had all of her powers nerfed by Selene after the orbs were destroyed. By the time Wendy found her, Faris was powerless and on the ground. Wendy just used separation enchantment to remove Faris from Touka. She beat a defenseless girl. Besides Natsu using FDK and flames of emotion, both of which he learned from Igneel, beat FH Zeref.
Btw, the power that Natsu had in his arm was just the leftovers from Igneel's corpse after his fight with Acno. If we want a good idea of the type of attacks Igneel used against Acno when they were fighting, we should probably be looking at what Ignia can do. And what Ignia can do is have Mercphobia drop an ocean on his flames, and then have Natsu eat the remaining flames for a powerup and use its power to wipe out Mercphobia's MP for the rest of his days.
Larcade's magic makes you horny. It doesn't lower your MP. We have seen characters go all out despite having injuries that cause excrutiating pain. This is no different, and in no way worse. So yeah, Wendy can absolutely defend against Irene's fireballs.
Erza didn't hurt Acnologia. Erza did less against Acno than Igneel's roar did against Acno, and Igneel's roar did nothing.
Enchantment doesn't bypass Acnologia's immunity to magic. I don't know how you're coming up with this stuff. Acnologia was immune to dragon slaying magic, which are all enchantments in the first place.
Come to think of it, dragon slaying seals are also enchantments, and team Natsu combined did pretty much nothing against Mercphobia. This is without Acnologia's immunity to magic. This is just Mercphobia's raw stats. Even if we ignored Acnologia's magical immunity, Acnologia would just toss Irene around like Natsu did to Mercphobia in a contest of raw stats. The idea that an enchanted shoe is going to hurt Acno when we factor in his magic immunity is laughable. Acnologia's is immune to magic even if he doesn't eat it.
Though you are probably right, knowing how Mashima writes. After seeing what I've seen so far from Suzaku, I'd hate it if black dragon knights (without nerf) goes down 1v1 to anyone but DF Natsu. The gap between him and others is far too big to be overcome in this period, cause right now Suzaku can one shot Laxus as well.
Now, if there is a TIMESKIP, then it'd be more tolerable
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Sure.
It's not like you say Brandish can solo all of FT or something
There isn’t going to be any TS. An its the only reason the BDK exist. As a stepping stone for the cast to surpass their previous level. An yeah, he should definitely be able to edge Laxus for now. An by the time the next two arcs end he’ll be dropped by Erza or Gajeel.
take this up with @Seven777. he thinks hax not hax doesnt matter
it doesnt matter at the end.
we have four BDSK. someone have to take them. they are not relevant like springgans, so team fight for strong good guys is less probable. if natsu is soloing selene, expect erza to solo someone alot stronger than suzaku
natsu will prove himself against selene
and erza will eats a BDSK and not a weak one at that
How are Spriggans any more relevant than Dragon Eaters? They're not. They were minions of Zeref who aimed to take down Acno. Dragon Eaters are minions of George who aim to take down DGs.
There are average DE like there are average Spriggans. There are black knights as aces of George, like top Spriggans as aces of Zeref. The average DEs overwhelm non serious team Natsu, like average Spriggans overwhelm non serious team Natsu.
Same shit. The role DEs play is pretty much identical to that of Spriggans, except they are doing so against 1 year timeskip team Natsu. So expect them to be a lot stronger as well.
Now, Erza may go onto defeat a black knight, she went onto defeat Eileen after all. But like Eileen's defeat, the defeat of the black knight is likely to be a result of help and may be controversial (like Eileen committing suicide).
GG = BG. Brandish doesn't combine any form of MP with Gajeel, he just gets his stats amplified. Enhancing Gajeel's =/= enhance his magic therefore GG is just enhanced by Brandish not a combined power. Brandish made GG without a sweat as well, but honestly I don't care to fight this bcs we agree GG < Irene/August.
Suzaku uses magic. Any form of magic is not hurting Acno at all. Suzaku is not using physical prowess to hurt Selene, he is using DS magic lol. His sword saint ds magic would get negged and then he would have to fight Acno with just stats and he would get bodied.
Shocking and surprising Acno who legit doesn't give a shit about anything deserves to be recognized. He acknowledged her as powerful which he doesn't do for anyone besides three other characters. How would Erza be faster than August when she is not as fast as Irene even when boosted? August doesn't have the best track record in speed either so I dunno why a Irene couldn't have better stats. Jellal's feats weren't close to Irene bcs Acno never acknowledged him as anything but fodder. Everything Jellal did against Jobberlogia is about as good as Tenrou Makarov. Suzaku's nick is not even better than GG's feats so lol.
Bar Natsu or PoF Erza, no one has country-continental feats so she could kill them with a thought via MM. An Aldo size stomp would kill anyone bar Natsu. That has to with her feats not her looks
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Being tired isn't an excuse when it is legit used as an excuse multiple times? Lmao, beat someone who is weakened or tired is nowhere near the same as beating them at full power. This was made not of countless times in the series.
No. Brandish was at her limits with Gajeel, hence the time limit of 3 mins. She can't sustain that big of a size more than 3 mins, which basically proves my argument. To put it in context, she can sustain ant sized Marin, and Natsu's shrunk "cancer" indefinitely.
GG = Gajeel's inherent mp and stats + Brandish's magic. GG >> Brandish
Igneel uses dragon magic in his mouth, which bit off Acno's arm. Unless you believe Igneel did it with his pure physical powers, with the magical component entirely ineffective. In which case, he's just another big animal who bit off Acno's arm....makes any sense?
There is a difference between magic used as energy blasts, vs magic used in body/weapons. Magic used in body/weapons enhance their property. Suzaku uses slashes to damage his enemies. It will affect Selene even if she was a magic dragon.
Acno was shocked because he had never seen that magic before. It was more of a shock of seeing a magic unknown to him, than due to her strength. He praised her for being decently strong, considering she was a minion of black wizard. Considering Zeref himself is one shot material for Acno, that doesn't really mean much lol.
Erza was fast enough to tag Eileen. Wendy, with Erza's distractions, was also able to tag Eileen. Erza also managed to fight almost equally with Eileen after Wendy went down (i.e no more help from her), Eileen was so mad of being unable to put down Erza that she transformed to her dragon form lol. These are enough to conclude that serious Acno would have NO PROBLEM tagging Eileen.
Serious Acno traversed like 100m in front of Spriggan trio, one shot GS, and reaches a few 100m behind them before August could even REGISTER what actually happened. Serious Acno one shots Eileen, undebatable. If you honestly believe Eileen won't get rofl stomped by Acno, it's wank, as simple as that.
Everything Eileen did against casual Acno is not even as good as what Jellol did against casual Acno. Considering he did it to Acno who was looking to kill a DS, Wendy; vs Eileen who did it to Acno who was bored and wanted kill some time. If anything, Acno is far more serious when he faced Jellol than when he faced Eileen.
Eileen:
- dodged attack from human Acno
- pushed back human Acno
- teleported him to somewhere with a prep'd spell
Jellol
- blocked/nullified attacked from human Acno
- blitzed human Acno
- pushed back human Acno
- blized dragon Acno
- dodged roar from dragon Acno
- pushed back dragon Acno
Now, I don't give much importance to either of the feats above, since I consider both these characters to be one shot material for serious Acno. But you are picking and choosing. Either both of them are valid, or none of them are.
Come on, have at least a little faith in me lmao.
Also I remember when you predicted doom to be the strongest God seed lmao (tbh I also expected doom to be strong)
take this up with @Seven777. he thinks hax not hax doesnt matter
it doesnt matter at the end.
we have four BDSK. someone have to take them. they are not relevant like springgans, so team fight for strong good guys is less probable. if natsu is soloing selene, expect erza to solo someone alot stronger than suzaku
natsu will prove himself against selene
and erza will eats a BDSK and not a weak one at that
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stop using physics man. it doesnt work in fairy tail.
and no erza strike on rot aconologia did not look anythink like christina one
selene hasnt broken anything. she effecting another dimension but cant put down suzaku. and suzaku and his peers will most likely fall to the good guys soon
I mean, she pushed him out of the sky with a multitude of weapons they literally had her just say couldn’t hurt him. So either it’s the physics of trying to fly with wings through a hail of swords, or it’s that her swords were oh so powerful that it knocked him out of the sky.
Nobody in the verse has done more than speak about affecting planets. Selene did it by getting serious with her Aura. She’s done more than every character showcased so far. That’s what breaking a verse looks like. An she elevated all the other DG’ along with her. Effortlessly
There isn’t going to be any TS. An its the only reason the BDK exist. As a stepping stone for the cast to surpass their previous level. An yeah, he should definitely be able to edge Laxus for now. An by the time the next two arcs end he’ll be dropped by Erza or Gajeel.
Like I said. I know what you're saying is likely going to happen, because that's how Mashima writes. I'm just saying I don't like it, that's all, I cannot accept characters jumping up many tiers within an arc or something
Black knights seem to have portrayal similar to top Spriggans, so I can at least expect that even while going down to FT top tiers, they can go down to team effort or some counter magic?
August went down to Gildarts, but he basically proved himself far superior to Gildarts before he went down (he used suicide spell for no good reason, Gildarts lost his only source of damage to August).
Eileen went down to Erza + Wendy, but her strongest form was hard countered and in the end she basically proved that she could've stabbed Erza in the end and won, even if by a margin, but instead stabbed herself.
Black knights have to go down, it's inevitable. But I want black knights to go down similar to the two above. Even when they lose, their dignity should be somewhat preserved.
Nobody in the verse has done more than speak about affecting planets. Selene did it by getting serious with her Aura. She’s done more than every character showcased so far. That’s what breaking a verse looks like. An she elevated all the other DG’ along with her. Effortlessly
To be fair, that is basically her magic lol. Her magic is dimensional magic and moon magic, it's no surprise that when she powers up, the dimensional barriers get a bit iffy. And moon does weird things.
We shouldn't try to apply calc and other nonsense here.
It's like trying to calc Brandish enlarging stuff, or Dimaria stopping time. Try using calc on Brandish CREATING MASS. You'd probably get sun level calcs lmao.
Like I said. I know what you're saying is likely going to happen, because that's how Mashima writes. I'm just saying I don't like it, that's all, I cannot accept characters jumping up many tiers within an arc or something
Black knights seem to have portrayal similar to top Spriggans, so I can at least expect that even while going down to FT top tiers, they can go down to team effort or some counter magic?
August went down to Gildarts, but he basically proved himself far superior to Gildarts before he went down (he used suicide spell for no good reason, Gildarts lost his only source of damage to August).
Eileen went down to Erza + Wendy, but her strongest form was hard countered and in the end she basically proved that she could've stabbed Erza in the end and won, even if by a margin, but instead stabbed herself.
Black knights have to go down, it's inevitable. But I want black knights to go down similar to the two above. Even when they lose, their dignity should be somewhat preserved.
To be fair, that is basically her magic lol. Her magic is dimensional magic and moon magic, it's no surprise that when she powers up, the dimensional barriers get a bit iffy. And moon does weird things.
We shouldn't try to apply calc and other nonsense here.
It's like trying to calc Brandish enlarging stuff, or Dimaria stopping time. Try using calc on Brandish CREATING MASS. You'd probably get sun level calcs lmao.
No, that’s not what’s happening here bro. Mashima is actively addressing the complaints he got from the Alvarez arc. From re-establishing his preferred power scale in a way he felt gave everybody some good moments, and taking his time to establish the foes credibility this time around. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a repeat and Ignia and Diablos come to a head in the same arc. It’s why I keep calling a Hades style battle against Georg & asking people how they feel about this 1v1 with Igneel’s heirs coming up. People complained about how the Zeref & Acnologia battles went. I’m excited for the feats, but I know folks will still complain. I just hope I get something ArthurVsDragon worthy.
That’s the thing though. All of comics is silly nonsense that shouldn’t be taken seriously. An we calc it out anyways. That’s what battle boards are. Feats are feats, like em or not. An weather it’s moving the moon, or genuinely adding mass too it, puts the verse on a different level and I am loving it.
Why are people so hyped about Sazuka tanking a few of Selene attacks?
So far we have seen Irene pushed Acnologia back.
Jellal block an attack from Acnologia
Natsu tank one of Aldoron strongest attacks(Claims this himseself)
Erza swords pushing Acnologia down
Team Natsu tanking attacks from a rampaging Merc
Touka took half of Mercs power.
Selene isn't really releasing anything powerful. If she was the clash between the two would cause way more area damage. None of Selene's attacks have been impressive.
Selene isn't really releasing anything powerful. If she was the clash between the two would cause way more area damage. None of Selene's attacks have been impressive.
No, that’s not what’s happening here bro. Mashima is actively addressing the complaints he got from the Alvarez arc. From re-establishing his preferred power scale in a way he felt gave everybody some good moments, and taking his time to establish the foes credibility this time around. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a repeat and Ignia and Diablos come to a head in the same arc. It’s why I keep calling a Hades style battle against Georg & asking people how they feel about this 1v1 with Igneel’s heirs coming up. People complained about how the Zeref & Acnologia battles went. I’m excited for the feats, but I know folks will still complain. I just hope I get something ArthurVsDragon worthy.
That’s the thing though. All of comics is silly nonsense that shouldn’t be taken seriously. An we calc it out anyways. That’s what battle boards are. Feats are feats, like em or not. An weather it’s moving the moon, or genuinely adding mass too it, puts the verse on a different level and I am loving it.
I'm not sure what you mean in the first part. I was talking about how "good guys" are gonna jump up tiers within an arc or something, not about how characters are treated/built up.
And yes, I like that enemies have more credibility in 100YQ than in final arc. In final arc, we had to main villains built up forever, and Mashima still managed to fuck up lmao.
DGs so far are doing great. Merc and Aldo were underwhelming to me, but once it's explained that they were nerfed to oblivion, I don't mind it that much now. If anything, the progression is making more sense to me now.
Suzaku is a beast, and have elevated hype for other black knights and George.
I totally expect a Hades style final battle against George, but with Natsu not being there hopefully (DF Natsu is probably in same tier as George). Let everyone else take on George
Sure, if you enjoy doing calcs, go for it lol. As long as people don't take calc too seriously, and use them to argue in vs battles, I'm cool.
Why are people so hyped about Sazuka tanking a few of Selene attacks?
So far we have seen Irene pushed Acnologia back.
Jellal block an attack from Acnologia
Natsu tank one of Aldoron strongest attacks(Claims this himseself)
Erza swords pushing Acnologia down
Team Natsu tanking attacks from a rampaging Merc
Touka took half of Mercs power.
Selene isn't really releasing anything powerful. If she was the clash between the two would cause way more area damage. None of Selene's attacks have been impressive.
1. Eileen pushed back casual Acno. Jellol blocked attack from casual Acno and pushed back casual Acno. Suzaku managed to INJURE Selene. He also outright tanked directed spells from Selene, both serious Selene and casual Selene. Tanking shows durability, blocking is spell countering another spell, which Suzaku also did by the way, he countered some of Selene's spells as well.
2. DF Natsu >>> everyone else in team Natsu. DF Natsu likely can beat Suzaku also. Aldo was also severely nerfed. Aldo woke up after a 100 years and wasn't at his peak, and to top that nerf, he was nerfed severely by 4 of his God seeds going down as well.
3. Erza pushed down a non sentient Acno moving only on instinct, am I supposed to be impressed? Suzaku managed to injure Selene.
4. Team Natsu just got caught up in the aftermath of a severely nerfed Merc (Merc says in current chapter he had already lost most of his powers by the time he fought team Natsu), not directed attacks. Merc only used directed attacks at Ignia powered DF Natsu towards the end, DF Natsu is a special case. Ignia powered DF Natsu >> Suzaku
5. WW took power from Merc by his own volition. She herself admitted she's too weak to use it on a hostile DG
Merc basically admitted that Selene is exerting more MP than he and Aldo exerted. AOE doesn't mean jack in FT
what makes Suzaku even more awesome is the fact that he wasn't that much hyped by other characters and yet he still surpassed most people's expectations.
what makes Suzaku even more awesome is the fact that he wasn't that much hyped by other characters and yet he still surpassed most people's expectations.
