Games Mafia Game 92 - Kingdom Rush - END GAME

[digitaldude]

The mafia noble might kill me if I have enough votes but he cant use his power if there is only 1 hour left. hmmm

 

[Farfalla]

Imo it's between Bia, Pandu and Holtie indeed, possibly 2 of them... and maybe Sakura, but she's gonna be revealed next anyway.
Torn cause Holt doesn't look like his mafia self to me this time and I see consistency in his claims (not sure Dodger means a Hider doesn't fit, since it has very limited use). Trying to reread Pandu and Bia.

 

[Baka Taichou]

oku, we have less than 2 hours left. Good thing we didn't lock votes eh DD? XD

 

[James Rye]

Yes I got two results. One of them was correct according to him and one was wrong, maybe.

I also got two results on Sakura, both wrong according to her.

Tbh me being insane spy would be pretty hilarious since I can upgrade to being able to target two players per night.

Yeah, that would be hilarious if you were insane. Honestly though, I don't see why you would get one correct result with Evil as an insane spy. So if we assume Evil lied about it for whatever reason then perhaps you are sane after all then lynching Sakura who according to you targeted daws who died as doc would make more sense.

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Or ofc design never was spy and is lying to save his butt, lol.

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Then again I ain't voting today, so eh, have fun guys. I hope you get another Mafia today, that would be awesome.

 

[digitaldude]

Dodger (Secondary Role) - Picks one player at Night to dodge; if said player targets the Dodger, the targeting fails. Can be used alongside your primary role, and is a traceable action. Can be blocked, unless the blocking player was dodged. HOW DID EVIL USE TWO SECONDARY ROLES AT NIGHT. EXPLAIN TO ME.

 

[Copy Panda]

Why does Daws have to be the legit doc? Why can't I be real one?

That said if I am the insane one, I almost killed myself N1

 

[Farfalla]

I'm doc and tested my sanity on Evil n1. Since nothing happened so I covered Desu n2

I also obtained enough gold to secure the strongest role in the game

Pandu what are your upgrades? Dunno if you've said it.

 

[Baka Taichou]

hmmm

Yeah, that would be hilarious if you were insane. Honestly though, I don't see why you would get one correct result with Evil as an insane spy. So if we assume Evil lied about it for whatever reason then perhaps you are sane after all then lynching Sakura who according to you targeted daws who died as doc would make more sense.

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Or ofc design never was spy and is lying to save his butt, lol.

dude... why lynch me when I'll be revealed? I don't understand this logic. There's one mafia left, if today's lynch is not gonna be mafia then I get revealed and everyone is happy (especially me for proving you all wrong) but in the absurd scenario in which I would be mafia, you'd just lynch me then. End of game. Finito.

 

[Farfalla]

@GrySun could someone use 2 secondary roles at once if one is an extra ability due to mechanic?

 

[GrySun]

@GrySun could someone use 2 secondary roles at once if one is an extra ability due to mechanic?

Not much about extra ability but wording. Sickly cannot be used alongside main roles, so Det Sickly can either sickly or investigate, sickly becoming his main action if he does it. Some secondary roles however can be used alongside primary roles. Like the passing of NVD, or Dodger in this case. So one could use two secondaries unless both cannot be used alongside a main action.

 

[Holt]

Just got back, caught up. First, amazing sniper James. Lawl was a solid suspect but I doubted DD more. Like Farf said, Gaj is very likely DM. He asked for Lawl's death. That kind of sabotage isn't just possible. Second, if there were 2 noble votes and the second is hiding, and with lawl also turning out to be mafia, DD is looking a lot less like scum. I don't think it is worth it lynching him anymore. Evil definitely was baiting, sad because we didn't pick it up earlier.

At this point, here's my thoughts:

Most Trusted
Farf- Instrumental is Escort lynch. Very cooperative, just generally good fluffy green behavior
James- No need to say much tbh.

Neutral (AKA good enough but this is still mafia so...)
Desin- Also in Marm lynch. Found Evil had 2 actions. Sanity aside, that's also a massive plus. Also good vibes from him so far
Sakura- Had a couple of weird moments, arguably too many to be actual blunders. Cooperative, seemingly realistic rage behavior. Her willingness to be vote revealed is also a solid plus for me. Feel pretty sure she's no mafia.
Tatsu- At the moment, this is the sole detective. No counterclaims. I believe that's a pretty big + for her
DD- Sole open "noble". He's the only one out so tbh, can't fault much. We know there were two, and it'd be quite pointless for mafia to have both. He has said himself though that he can potentially have 2 anons, I can believe this on the town side but can't see a mafia get such a big buff.

Most likely scum
Pompom- BG. Fair claim, sensible targeting, however, the reasoning of not going for desin because a doctor would definitely protect him when we had no doc out, and there's possibility of insane doc is (at this moment all things considered) too much of a chance. Probably didn't lie about her targetting just in case she was spied, but I don't know if I want to believe a real BG would let the spy who at that point was pretty much our most important role be unguarded. Could be legit but the process of elimination makes her case much more suspicious. Also, not entirely sure which Mafia role would benefit from targetting the same player twice (assuming she didn't lie).
Panda- Also process of elimination, however, he's in a better position claim-wise. Doc is naturally expected and there's been no counter claim too. However, one thing bugging me now is that Panda had that post where he asked Evil if it's bad that Marm dies. At that point, it did seem like he was making the right call on Marm but that can be considered a big-brain setup against Evil. As scum, he'd know Marm is one too ofc. Another thing is, Panda's locked vote was on Farf. I know she did ask for it, but it ironically gave him the perfect cover to stay out of the decision-making without looking suspicious. If he was already feeling pretty sure about Marm, perhaps he could've at least held on to see her lynch is going through before discarding his vote to help Farf

Not sure it's worth the Sakura reveal right now. I'd much rather a reveal on Pom or Panda and if possible a lynch from there too

 

[digitaldude]

Not much about extra ability but wording. Sickly cannot be used alongside main roles, so Det Sickly can either sickly or investigate, sickly becoming his main action if he does it. Some secondary roles however can be used alongside primary roles. Like the passing of NVD, or Dodger in this case. So one could use two secondaries unless both cannot be used alongside a main action.

You are summoned to the council after this game gry.

 

[Copy Panda]

Pandu what are your upgrades? Dunno if you've said it.

1. bp (the strongest role) for one night kill and 2. my targets cannot die of day kills anymore

 

[digitaldude]

I will become super noble or politician.

 

[Holt]

Just got back, caught up. First, amazing sniper James. Lawl was a solid suspect but I doubted DD more. Like Farf said, Gaj is very likely DM. He asked for Lawl's death. That kind of sabotage isn't just possible. Second, if there were 2 noble votes and the second is hiding, and with lawl also turning out to be mafia, DD is looking a lot less like scum. I don't think it is worth it lynching him anymore. Evil definitely was baiting, sad because we didn't pick it up earlier.

At this point, here's my thoughts:

Most Trusted
Farf- Instrumental is Escort lynch. Very cooperative, just generally good fluffy green behavior
James- No need to say much tbh.

Neutral (AKA good enough but this is still mafia so...)
Desin- Also in Marm lynch. Found Evil had 2 actions. Sanity aside, that's also a massive plus. Also good vibes from him so far
Sakura- Had a couple of weird moments, arguably too many to be actual blunders. Cooperative, seemingly realistic rage behavior. Her willingness to be vote revealed is also a solid plus for me. Feel pretty sure she's no mafia.
Tatsu- At the moment, this is the sole detective. No counterclaims. I believe that's a pretty big + for her
DD- Sole open "noble". He's the only one out so tbh, can't fault much. We know there were two, and it'd be quite pointless for mafia to have both. He has said himself though that he can potentially have 2 anons, I can believe this on the town side but can't see a mafia get such a big buff.

Most likely scum
Pompom- BG. Fair claim, sensible targeting, however, the reasoning of not going for desin because a doctor would definitely protect him when we had no doc out, and there's possibility of insane doc is (at this moment all things considered) too much of a chance. Probably didn't lie about her targetting just in case she was spied, but I don't know if I want to believe a real BG would let the spy who at that point was pretty much our most important role be unguarded. Could be legit but the process of elimination makes her case much more suspicious. Also, not entirely sure which Mafia role would benefit from targetting the same player twice (assuming she didn't lie).
Panda- Also process of elimination, however, he's in a better position claim-wise. Doc is naturally expected and there's been no counter claim too. However, one thing bugging me now is that Panda had that post where he asked Evil if it's bad that Marm dies. At that point, it did seem like he was making the right call on Marm but that can be considered a big-brain setup against Evil. As scum, he'd know Marm is one too ofc. Another thing is, Panda's locked vote was on Farf. I know she did ask for it, but it ironically gave him the perfect cover to stay out of the decision-making without looking suspicious. If he was already feeling pretty sure about Marm, perhaps he could've at least held on to see her lynch is going through before discarding his vote to help Farf

Not sure it's worth the Sakura reveal right now. I'd much rather a reveal on Pom or Panda and if possible a lynch from there too

Edit: Daws was doc too. Panda's scum rating just went higher. IMO, I'd say a Panda lynch and a Bia reveal.

Oh btw, I see a fair bit suspecting me. Understandable really. I'd probably think the same for a Hider+Dodger combo. We have the numbers right now, mafia should be 1 left. Not thrilled, but I wouldn't be pissed if I got lynched. However, I think Panda is a much better option.

 

[digitaldude]

You cant have two doctors hider bodyguard everyone dodging you just cant have that.

 

[Holt]

Imo it's between Bia, Pandu and Holtie indeed, possibly 2 of them... and maybe Sakura, but she's gonna be revealed next anyway.
Torn cause Holt doesn't look like his mafia self to me this time and I see consistency in his claims (not sure Dodger means a Hider doesn't fit, since it has very limited use). Trying to reread Pandu and Bia.

I hate that my mafia self has a look to you. I mean, this is good in this case but in the grand scheme of MGs....

 

[Baka Taichou]

Just got back, caught up. First, amazing sniper James. Lawl was a solid suspect but I doubted DD more. Like Farf said, Gaj is very likely DM. He asked for Lawl's death. That kind of sabotage isn't just possible. Second, if there were 2 noble votes and the second is hiding, and with lawl also turning out to be mafia, DD is looking a lot less like scum. I don't think it is worth it lynching him anymore. Evil definitely was baiting, sad because we didn't pick it up earlier.

At this point, here's my thoughts:

Most Trusted
Farf- Instrumental is Escort lynch. Very cooperative, just generally good fluffy green behavior
James- No need to say much tbh.

Neutral (AKA good enough but this is still mafia so...)
Desin- Also in Marm lynch. Found Evil had 2 actions. Sanity aside, that's also a massive plus. Also good vibes from him so far
Sakura- Had a couple of weird moments, arguably too many to be actual blunders. Cooperative, seemingly realistic rage behavior. Her willingness to be vote revealed is also a solid plus for me. Feel pretty sure she's no mafia.
Tatsu- At the moment, this is the sole detective. No counterclaims. I believe that's a pretty big + for her
DD- Sole open "noble". He's the only one out so tbh, can't fault much. We know there were two, and it'd be quite pointless for mafia to have both. He has said himself though that he can potentially have 2 anons, I can believe this on the town side but can't see a mafia get such a big buff.

Most likely scum
Pompom- BG. Fair claim, sensible targeting, however, the reasoning of not going for desin because a doctor would definitely protect him when we had no doc out, and there's possibility of insane doc is (at this moment all things considered) too much of a chance. Probably didn't lie about her targetting just in case she was spied, but I don't know if I want to believe a real BG would let the spy who at that point was pretty much our most important role be unguarded. Could be legit but the process of elimination makes her case much more suspicious. Also, not entirely sure which Mafia role would benefit from targetting the same player twice (assuming she didn't lie).
Panda- Also process of elimination, however, he's in a better position claim-wise. Doc is naturally expected and there's been no counter claim too. However, one thing bugging me now is that Panda had that post where he asked Evil if it's bad that Marm dies. At that point, it did seem like he was making the right call on Marm but that can be considered a big-brain setup against Evil. As scum, he'd know Marm is one too ofc. Another thing is, Panda's locked vote was on Farf. I know she did ask for it, but it ironically gave him the perfect cover to stay out of the decision-making without looking suspicious. If he was already feeling pretty sure about Marm, perhaps he could've at least held on to see her lynch is going through before discarding his vote to help Farf

Not sure it's worth the Sakura reveal right now. I'd much rather a reveal on Pom or Panda and if possible a lynch from there too

I agree on the pom parts, it's what I've also told her, and it's why I suggested initially to reveal her or you. Then she said she wouldn't mind being revealed, but then she suggested you get revealed, so I saw that as a try to dodge.
Lil correction tho Daws was doctor and he revealed his sanity with upgrade, and was sane, so Copan is most likely insane.

I believe I have my target for vote. I'm going with pom. You can continue to reveal me if it helps or reveal copan, but I'm pretty sure this is the end of it.

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1. bp (the strongest role) for one night kill and 2. my targets cannot die of day kills anymore

dayum some nice upgrades

 

[Copy Panda]

Holt how can you claim Hider when we can all buy Hider for like 10g

 

[Baka Taichou]

@Lady pompom what were your 2 upgrades? I don't remember seeing you mention them, but I remember you were asked before so I might have missed them.