Fantasy Suzaku vs Brandish

[Ratrace]

In combat? No



Because it hasn't happened. Using this logic, Jellal uses bind snake on everyone and is currently Ishgar's strongest. See how stupid that is?

So what you're saying is she can't do it because it was never shown

 

[Ramen]

So what you're saying is she can't do it because it was never shown

Yes. Otherwise, I can use that same logic to prove it wrong.

 

[Ratrace]

Yes. Otherwise, I can use that same logic to prove it wrong.

Well I guess no one can prove you wrong because the odds we'll see Brandish in combat again is slim to none

 

[Ramen]

Well I guess no one can prove you wrong because the odds we'll see Brandish in combat again is slim to none

Great.

 

[Ratrace]

Great.

So to you everything that hasn't happened can't happen

 

[Ramen]

So to you everything that hasn't happened can't happen

Nope, I just don't use Organ Bust as an argument since I don't believe she can do that. Like I said with Jellal, can I say he's stronger than anyone because of Bind Snake? Or Laxus with Fairy Law?

There are limits to everyone's magic.

 

[grey matter]

In combat? No



Because it hasn't happened. Using this logic, Jellal uses bind snake on everyone and is currently Ishgar's strongest. See how stupid that is?

I see your point.

Not totally convinced, but that argument makes a lot of sense. If we consider Brandish using mass manipulation on organs, that would open up a huge can of worms. Like you said, arguing Jellol uses bind snake GG or one shots with self destruction circle. Mest screw opponent's mind in combat. etc

 

[Ramen]

I see your point.

Not totally convinced, but that argument makes a lot of sense. If we consider Brandish using mass manipulation on organs, that would open up a huge can of worms. Like you said, arguing Jellol uses bind snake GG or one shots with self destruction circle. Mest screw opponent's mind in combat. etc

Exactly, there are limits to people's abilities. I think of it like One Piece, hax is overpowered by someone's haki if it's strong enough. In this case, MP would overpower someone's hax.

Otherwise, Brandish could've legit solo'd Ishgar.

 

[Ratrace]

Nope, I just don't use Organ Bust as an argument since I don't believe she can do that. Like I said with Jellal, can I say he's stronger than anyone because of Bind Snake? Or Laxus with Fairy Law?

There are limits to everyone's magic.

that's what it seem like you were saying before

Yes they are limits but no ones saying organ bust is the strongest spell out there just if it can be used it combat

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MP overpowering hax is already established in FT, there are only few who are in denial of this, usually cause of fanbase bias.

I like it better when someone used strategy to defeat hax.

to me it seems to depends on what Hiro wants to happen in the story

 

[Ramen]

that's what it seem like you were saying before

No it wasn't. I was clear on what I was saying.

Yes they are limits but no ones saying organ bust is the strongest spell out there just if it can be used it combat

I never said anyone is arguing about it being the strongest. I'm saying I don't believe it can be used in combat.

 

[Ratrace]

No it wasn't. I was clear on what I was saying.

Yeah you said Brandish can't use organ bust in combat because we never seen her use it in combat. I can say the same thing about bind snake because both times Jellal used it on Erza she was caught off guard

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I never said anyone is arguing about it being the strongest. I'm saying I don't believe it can be used in combat.

Okay

 

[Ramen]

Yeah you said Brandish can't use organ bust in combat because we never seen her use it in combat. I can say the same thing about bind snake because both times Jellal used it on Erza she was caught off guard

Yes you can, this is literally my argument lmao

 

[Ratrace]

Yes you can, this is literally my argument lmao

Okay adding this on here but you can say that about a lot of things.

 

[GL_Nova]

Even if she can use it, what suggests she can use it before she bets blitzed and 1 shot? What amazing speed feat puts her over Natsu and Erza?

 

[Jko]

Organ Bust GG. BG = GG >= Suzaku's current showings.

 

[Brandish μ]

Do you think Organ bust has a limitation of working on higher tiers? If yes, how would it work on Suzaku? It didn't work on buffed Neinhart. Suzaku is probably far above her tier, so I doubt she can organ bust him

It definitely does.

In all honesty Suzaku is stronger than an enchanted Neinhart, magically and certainly physically. Just these type of threads kinda beg for the response I gave.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

Doesn’t work on people on a higher level, I doubt it’ll work on Suzaku, who is surviving against someone who is another acnologia.

Suzaku one shots and it’s baffling people still think the spriggans are somehow relevant on people the current guild, who have shown to be more powerful than their previous version.

 

[grey matter]

It definitely does.

In all honesty Suzaku is stronger than an enchanted Neinhart, magically and certainly physically. Just these type of threads kinda beg for the response I gave.

?? Not really sure what you meant.
Why do you think so? People are actually arguing for Spriggans seriously, so not exactly a troll thread

 

[Ratrace]

?? Not really sure what you meant.
Why do you think so? People are actually arguing for Spriggans seriously, so not exactly a troll thread

Personally I don't think the Spriggan were weak but in most case the villains get stronger as the story progresses

 

[Axiomus]

Suzaku one shots and it’s baffling people still think the spriggans are somehow relevant on people the current guild, who have shown to be more powerful than their previous version.

Madmole, whose pretty much middle of the pack in Diabolos, has Natsu tier physical strength and durability that no sells attacks that oneshot Spriggans. That honestly tells us all we need to know about Diabolos as a whole. The Spriggans aren't irrelevant in terms of PL, but they are getting power crept. That much is obvious.