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Sorry, this took a while >_< Wanted to extensive player reviews, but now that the next game has started, I figured I'd keep it short after all

Thank you again for participating, everyone! Those who spent time playing, those who won, those who hosted and even the spectators; all of you together made this a fun experience! The death pad at times vitriolic, at other times, just toxic (as it should be). I'll go over some stuff here, cover the broad strokes.


👨‍🚒 👩‍🚒 Mechanics and Balance 🦸‍♂️ 🦸‍♀️

Compared to what you guys got, my earliest proposals for this mechanic were actually much more demanding of the players. For better or worse, Noona's input balanced the game out by taking away a considerable amount of decision-making. Personally, I'm a spice man, but over the course of hosting a couple of games now with her, I think I've grown to not just respect but incorporate some of her game-design ideas/preferences into my own. A few more games and I'll be Brazilian Corruption'd so much, I can apply for a passport.

At the base of it all was Noona's inverse janitor idea, whereby only death could reveal your role. Though presumably harder on newer players, across the board, it decidedly did influence the player approach towards the game. Maybe the most noticeable effect was that the players were deprived of just enough information to focus on the actual behaviour of others. Sure, some of the mafo made spicy claims, but maybe the lack of information across the board did more to help the noobies than not knowing hampered them.

The Burning Building stuff I think I produced a week or week and a half before the game started. We spent like 3 years trying to figure this out, our styles and personalities clashing constantly. 'We' here also includes Poopler and Marms who had their own ideas and inputs. The building idea I thought would have incorporated most ideas. The voting-for-your-role bit became the central part of the design, with us hoping that nearly everybody would know their role by the time D4ish would come around.

Initially, our ideas on how to arrange the First and Second floors differed. I personally wanted different effects for both floors, with only one floor being the Reveal floor (but revealing 5 instead of 3). Noona developed an interesting line of thought here, involving player choice and the idea that the floor capacities should be what Players aim to manage, rather than just the individual choice of what powers to use. This was enforced by the floor only working if a precise amount of people entered. Comparatively, this meant that some amount of people would probably always get their role revealed, which would keep the game moving smoothly.

The Roof Floor revealing Mafia created an interesting situation early around D2ish when the second McDo was revealed. What's painful is that it turned out that was the second Doc hiding amongst you 💀 Btw, in hindsight, I think it would have been better to personally reveal to the mafia member in question that their role got revealed that it was them who was revealed (i.e. let the McDo know they're the McDo once the top floor revealed as such).

The Prosecutor Floor, depending on how actions played out, could have been hidoi. While ofc it was clear that at some point a bunch of Prosecutors could be walking around town, it was scary to consider how many shots could be fired in one day. Personally, 1.) I figured the range of shots would have been around 4 and that 2.) people wouldn't go around cajoling the prosecutors (as they might be mafia killed otherwise). Perhaps it was for the best to force people (Shobu) to shoot but overall, given how valuable the power is, though I can't really imagine town revenge-lynching a reluctant Prosecutor. I mean I ain't y'all but I'd be scared of losing sth important. Though I'm not sure about the minutiae, Tatsu who was in the room with Eri then proceeded to kill her :lmao

Oh yeah, the Ground Floor, where y'all started, initially was supposed to randomly poison one of the leavers 💀 In the end, we settled on Hot Potato being more Player-friendly. My idea was that people who failed to enter another floor would just end up here again, but RNG'ing you onto another floor was deemed, again, more Player-friendly (which is true). So, as far as the mechanic goes, all I can say is I'm happy we managed to figure out sth that was acceptable to all four of us lol ç__ç

As for balance, there were a few hiccups here and there. While some players got shafted accidentally (Pomcha), intentionally (Sakura), stupidly (Sam) and some others didn't use their role altogether (Lamb, Van), a central complaint we've received has to do with the amount of mafo in the game. Personally, I think the mafo should have had it quite rough, and simply played out the end-game well (though they had a couple of advantages going into this game-state).

The most important dynamic here that, admittedly I personally at least, didn't fully consider, was that the number of player-kills per night (if all of them go through i.e. are unblocked etc.) will only go down once the full team has been slain. That's to say, in the Red case, for instance, only once Desu died, would there be one night-kill less. Sure, losing (wo)man-power sucks, especially if the role attached to the name was strong, and it sets you back half-a-phase in meeting your wincon, but notably, the killing power of mafo doesn't go down. Because of this, even with the Red implosion and lack of mislynching by town, so long purple avoided stacking their kills with Red (through prediction or just prestidigitation), they'd able to piggyback on their killing powers. It is not like we didn't attempt to balance this; with the abundance of prosecutor powers and another party out to kill them without having Doc immediately available, they were at risk. It's just that so long town consistently culls one team, and neither mafo focuses on killing their counterpart, ironically, the remaining team 'absorbs' the momentum.

Some other balance concerns or mishaps will be touched on in the following section. Lots of it has been discussed in pads on disc. If there's something else that I didn't cover here and wasn't discussed on disc, ofc feel free to point it out here on the thread and we can discuss it​

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16. sakura_aneki as Shoto | Mafia Boss | Lynched D1
It is unfortunate you died quite early and set off a cascade. Uh, I don't think you did yourself a lot of favours by locking so early, but, in the same vein, it's not entirely fair to hold you being killed by your own fam against you. Sure, anyone could have killed you bc of this move, but it shouldn't have been your own guy. I suppose 'lesson learnt' for next time; can't trust anyone in this game 🗡


1. GrySun as Lemillion | Mafia Detective | Killed N1
One of our resident favourites, unfortunately, was slain in single combat. The only non-town to be slain by another at night, in fact. A little saddening, though not entirely unexpected. Since your killer signed up for next game, surely you'll have a chance at revenge this time around 💀


15. Holt as Ingenium | Detective, Traitor | Lynched D2
Insane Det with (Naive) Traitor is (one of) my 'preferred' builds; it gives the player two things to figure out by using the same mechanic. They have some room for diagnosing their situation through their own volition. Given your unfortunate early death, however, this little mini-game never came to fruition. It is a little saddening you died a sacrificial lamb; technically you were the only mislynch in-game


24. Evil3ye as Shinso | Doctor, Super Mason | Killed N2
Though it has been mentioned many a time that Eripan couldn't target easy, since the Super Mason secondaries weren't hidden, Eripan had a couple of targets to pick from (should they declare, which they did). So while purely number-wise she was in a tough spot, eligible targets could somewhat vouch for themselves. Funnily enough, she actually picked a 'hidden' Super Mason (Jinx), who lied to everyone (including Eri) so that she could play the part of a cleansed townie. I think you were next on the recruit list, Evil, or pretty high up there at least. Hopefully, you get to play a bit longer next time


11. Shad as Deku | Mafia Doctor | Lynched D3
A few... miscalculations... Here and there... You did redeem yourself though, and almost all actions you took were considerably spicy. I liked the rogue PGO claim, though maybe it was a little too early to make that sort of claim. Nonetheless, fun to see, though I imagine it less delightful to be on the receiving end of your dagger lol


6. JamesRye as Cellophane | Apprentice, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D3
You even said 'Ah I hope I ain't the Apprentice' :lmao I never quite got why you chose to shoot Erichi btw :0


9. Lady Pompom as Creati | Psychiatrist, Hot Potato | Exploded D3
Sorry you exploded a phase too early, Pomcha ç___ç Your main role was supposed to detect secondaries, verify such claims, maybe pressure the traitor who was still unsure of their position. In an earlier iteration, there were also Lovers that you could find, but we determined that could create a pad overload for two very unfortunate players. In the end, you were kept in so that you could snuff out the eventual Traitor, or draw attention to players hiding their secondary like Jinx. Sorta ironic the secondary-spotting power... was killed by a passable secondary


2. Erinyes as Pinky | Mason Recruiter, Prosecutor | Killed N3
You got done dirty Eripan, and you died an ironic death; after surviving the Prosecutor shot, you got killed as soon as you got your own hands on it. It beats suiciding on the role, though. At least you recruited someone? ç__ç


18. Asako Gryffindor as Froppy | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D4
Thank you for subbing in Gryff! Your predecessor lowkey fucked up your position but thanks to Shad's heroics and your way with words you managed to pull through and live to shitpost another day. Hopefully next time you join you start out less compromised 🙏


17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt | Mafia Detective, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D4
I think you should have been slightly more patient XD You got peer-pressured into shooting, and I respect you doing so, but you should have been more patient anyway. I didn't think a Mafia would risk it. And if I had, personally, I might have Shadded one of my own. Ofc, it was also more or less your first game, and you were in a tough position (unlike your other noobie counterparts, you were mafia). Oh, also, I like how you took the Bankai part of the explanation seriously and actually publically went Bankai xD It's unfortunate that last-hour rule was invoked on you, that slightly hurt your credentials probably, but props for the flair. Spice good


7. Lambu as Red Riot | Detective, Sickly | Killed N4
Some raised the Sickly v unknown role point, and personally, I disagree with the notion that Sickly made the primary role unusable. Especially on the first night, when Sickly'ing someone was not much better than RNG D1 vote, I myself at least would have used my role to see if there was feedback. I can see the cost-benefit part that comes from choosing between using Det and Sickly, but you didn't know your primary at all until you died ç__ç Ofc I can understand your position, but I didn't think a player would opt into not trying their main role at all. Sth for us/me to consider next time.


4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan | Spy, Super Mason | Killed N4
Interesting ploy, hiding your Spy status from everyone. A notably powerful strategy and quite believable at that. Eventually, you became a target for your information retention skills LOL, another kind of information gathering I suppose. V dangerous


3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D5
If I could have made a top 5 worst roles to claim in your position, I think Troublemaker might just be on there. It bought you another day, but at what cost? LOL Other than that, I liked your presence in the Floor pads. It was kinda funny how at some point (I think N3 or 4 or sth) you entered the room, all 'heyo what's up' and 12 people all at once started attacking you. I'd say 'poor guy' but you bullied me a lot so...


14. Juviii as Uravity | Jesus | Killed N5
Juvling has noticeably improved; compared to earlier games where you passively trolled town by pulling a Shinoona on us and going poof. I'd (we'd) say you're much more involved now. Furthermore, it's not naive aggression but pretty accurate remarks and to-the-point arguments. Sure, you were confirmed, but your gameplay itself might have warranted a kill at this point in the game anyway


5. Demonspeed Vandred as Tsukuyomi | Hider | Killed N5
Thank you Vindred for subbing in for Demon! You were quite important in that you were a sub for a townie, not a mafo (which usually is the case). Hopefully, precedent now has been set that any kind of player can be subbed in, not just mafia lol. Did you have any developed thoughts on how to handle subbing in better (things that make it easier or faired for the sub in to fit in)? Curious if you do. Unfortunate situation with you missing the timing to PM your action ç__ç Game might have looked a bit different had you submitted, but who can tell how much tbh. As usual, solid and balanced play. Had the game gone on a little longer you could have even deployed a Vanplan or two.


10. desin24 as Shemage | Mafia Escort | Lynched D6
The final Red to die. You did quite good tbh, surviving or as long as you did. Especially your fighting spirit shone through 🔥 I feel like you roll prosti more often than Taku or sth at this point lol


19. Avietar as Battlefist | Mortician | Killed N6
Ahh, we had a few miscomms in our PM concerning role usage, but overall, I'm happy you were as active as you were! You had a slightly harder role to figure out the purpose of (which... you might have had on N3 iirc if not for the miscommunication >_<). Overall, I liked how you did your best and stayed in the pads till quite late in your timezone xD Good stuff


21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl | Bodyguard | Lynched D7
Ahh I felt very bad receiving your PM's DD. At multiple points, I think not just me, but the other hosts as well would have wanted to PM you, assuring you your actions went through and that we didn't forget or whatever. It just was your role that didn't give you any feedback ç__ç Towards the end the more experienced players managed to capitalize on the attrition damage the chibis took and paint you as suspicious.


8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack | Mafia Boss | WINNER
Very involved in the mafia pads, scheming it out. I liked your play by the end, fucking up floor pad. I suppose any mafo could have done it, but I think that act greatly contributed to the momentum-seeking chibis losing their footing. Had they had a pad to discuss and consolidate, they might have turned against you guys in a fury. Pretty good job on staying separated from the others till the end; I'd have to go back and check but I don't think many players had an end-game in mind that linked you to Lawl or Tatsu.


12. Maryxxi as Suneater | Prostitute | LOSER
Similarly to Avi, I liked your activity a lot! Even when you were asking questions, they were well-thought-out inquiries that clearly indicated some level of research and understanding of the game. Like the other chibi's, you were mostly hampered by lack of experience and not having role list info at the ready (both of which can be helped in few games). Your targeting was decent (as well as equal parts tragic when you got blocked by the mafo prosti). I hope you stick around for more games later 🙏


13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel | Mafia Doctor | WINNER
Was the part about you having to go to the station for wi-fi real? That's some real MVP-level dedication LOL Tbh you were pretty invisible (as a mafo) for the vast majority of the game and even towards the end you weren't really suspected. You fit in naturally and were excluded from most end-game mafo rosters. Good stuff


20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief | Bulletproof | LOSER
I think on thread the most inquisitive townie! Aggressive forward play, asking questions and producing theories. play like a noob (though then again you didn't last game either). In a few more games I think you'll have a much better understanding of the possibilities available. GG 🙏


22. Zirconium as Dynamight | Banshee, Super Mason | LOSER
Like Mary, I liked the questions you asked. Really didn't come across as a first-time player of sorts. I hope you keep playing and try your luck at solving the murder mystery next time ç__ç


23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy | Mafia Escort | WINNER
Hyung-nim simply can't be mafia :blush I think hyung did a good job staying under the radar and keeping it together throughout the game. I feel like usually you'd have attracted more attention, but similar to the Titan game, even as a mafo you sat it out. Your targeting was quite good too. In terms of grit, Tatsu probs did 'best', but in terms of performance, you're up there!
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Hello everyone, your friendly psychedelic amanita muscaria here. Very interesting setup. So we got 2 Supermasons so far. With no roles to go by we can assume that Evil's N1 streak will repeat RIP.

You can't even go back to the ground floor
They'll be able to keep moving to other floors every night (except going back to the ground floor!
so I doubt anyone can "stay on any floors. If everyone rushes to the rooftop floor we'll just get randomized results of where people ended up. Which is not necessarily bad if mafia lies about their placement the next day.
 

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But well, that's it. You mean to tell me you see no benefits to be in the snake's pit and the opportunity of gettin out alive with some off-topic observation and knowledge? The possibility of revealing a friend's role via vote and make sure they can use it wisely? Rooftop and Top floor will be flooded asap, we all know it. By flooding the lower floors, a town can be "ejected" to the upper ones via RNG.
Well, for one to be honest, I don't even understand what those "in a pad" rules mean.. I was initially thinking you have to be part of the mafia or masonary or something else to be "in a pad", but now that we're talking I'm not sure what that even means anymore. Perhaps the floor 1 and floor 2 people each get a pad and can discuss in the night which three to pick? But who will get the results then privately?

As mentioned before, I found the rules pretty confusing on the first few reads and need more and more clarifications as I read it more often.
 

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Well, for one to be honest, I don't even understand what those "in a pad" rules mean.. I was initially thinking you have to be part of the mafia or masonary or something else to be "in a pad", but now that we're talking I'm not sure what that even means anymore. Perhaps the floor 1 and floor 2 people each get a pad and can discuss in the night which three to pick? But who will get the results then privately?

As mentioned before, I found the rules pretty confusing on the first few reads and need more and more clarifications as I read it more often.
To clarify, at night you guys will individually tell us thru your PMs to what floor you wanna head. In the following night, you'll gather in an extra pad specifically created to each floor where you'll decide on things.
This clarify the pad thing I guess.
N1 you tell your move. NextN you go into a pad with the ones that picked same pad and/or got ramdomised in there with you.

Kind of confusing, I know, but that's it.
 

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This clarify the pad thing I guess.
N1 you tell your move. NextN you go into a pad with the ones that picked same pad and/or got ramdomised in there with you.

Kind of confusing, I know, but that's it.
Oh ok, I didn't read through this post that thoroughly while catching up in the morning. Which now means that on Night 1 we won't even be on the floors yet and trigger the respective actions. It will be just to submit the prefered floor and then end up somewhere via lottery.
 

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Oh ok, I didn't read through this post that thoroughly while catching up in the morning. Which now means that on Night 1 we won't even be on the floors yet and trigger the respective actions. It will be just to submit the prefered floor and then end up somewhere via lottery.
Dead on, Shinso my friend.
 

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Hello everyone, your friendly psychedelic amanita muscaria here. Very interesting setup. So we got 2 Supermasons so far. With no roles to go by we can assume that Evil's N1 streak will repeat RIP.
Not gonna lie, I look like a good night kill option, but I am pokering on Townies with ??? roles targeting me as well, and hopefully a Doctor and/or Recruiter being among them, so we'll see. Please don't RIP me just yet. :biblethump
 

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Anyways, no need to worry for now. We have plenty of time to chat plus Host-chan said:

Yeah, those 8 people vote and the top 3 voted ones will be privately revealed (in their PMs). Those 8 people can see how everyone in there is voting, yeah. People don't have access to what happens on the other floors, though.
If one question is inappropriate, we'll ignore it '-' Tomorrow I'll add spoiler tags with a "FAQ" with those questions raised in here.
 

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Will be more active in about two hours. I have stuff to do.
 

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>will be busy in about two hours

--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Well since things will be kind of in stand-by for the moment I'll get shit done plus rest to try and come back asap.
 

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Well, honestly I don't see the use of focusing on one floor, we could just get randomised if we all rush in there, but i do think that planning will be good for us on who goes where especially in the future
Right now tho, we don't really have much info to plan on who goes where...
For me I'm fine with whatever floor, didn't really decide yet where to go (tho i doubt anyone did decide yet so what am i rambling about :XD )


And yea, evil you probably shouldn't have revealed you had super mason, when even the MR doesn't know he the MR....
It just put more risk on you, dying...

Well you can hope that the MR have a teammate so they know they masons...



Well since things will be kind of in stand-by for the moment I'll get shit done plus rest to try and come back asap.
Btw this is kinda normal for day 1, even more now that we don't know our role.
Don't worry tho, it be active at the end as always.. it's when time push everyone to talk and make a decision
 

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I was happy at first with the mason reveals as I think this means Evil and Zirc are town, but on second thought WTF? Why did you people claim Super Mason so early? Nobody knows their main role but Super Mason is generally only put on good/strong roles. So what‘s the plan now, everyone targets the 2 of you with unknown roles, hope one of them is Sane Doctor? I‘ve been the only Sane Doctor Super Mason a few games ago so it may just be one of you 2.
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Btw, these Hardy rules aren't even Hardy-proof.

Like the best town play early game is Rooftop, and that's it, the other is all just meh. However, it is possible to deny Mafia the Barkeeper Detective by not filling the Floor 1 and 2. So, how about the majority just stays on Ground floor for the time being.

There, have some of your own medicine, Poopster. :heh
And notice how it says that only the ones that leave the ground floor can get the Hot Potato. Can't get the Hot Potato if you never leave
 

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Haha. I didn't really have an end game revealing while being barely awake, and not understanding the floor and pad rules, but I think there's always a bright side.

Like firstly, Zirkon and myself are at least a bit more trusted now, rather than the other blush of people who don't have their roles revealed at all, and secondly, perhaps the Mafia will abstain from killing us for now, as we might have a high concentration on role uses on ourselves the first few nights.

I'd probably target Zirkon myself, but dunno yet for sure.
 

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Well, honestly I don't see the use of focusing on one floor, we could just get randomised if we all rush in there, but i do think that planning will be good for us on who goes where especially in the future
Right now tho, we don't really have much info to plan on who goes where...
For me I'm fine with whatever floor, didn't really decide yet where to go (tho i doubt anyone did decide yet so what am i rambling about :XD )


And yea, evil you probably shouldn't have revealed you had super mason, when even the MR doesn't know he the MR....
It just put more risk on you, dying...

Well you can hope that the MR have a teammate so they know they masons...





Btw this is kinda normal for day 1, even more now that we don't know our role.
Don't worry tho, it be active at the end as always.. it's when time push everyone to talk and make a decision
My point in wanting tp go for either first or second floor was exactly to get ramfomised. Don't know if it's exactly a plan, but the more we spread the more ground we cover.

And I am aware of that, it's just that I see a lot of people on the active list but not posting. Probably busy, I know, but still reading the topic.
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Was about to sugest you guys targeting each other but too damn risky with hidden roles. Specially if Mafia have two teams.
 

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Make sense heaven, tho my thinking process was kinda the opposite.
Reveal where we say we go so mafia don't get a chance to plan on their night and those that stray form the pack will be suspects...
TP the underdog so wasn't thinking about them...

Hmm, we figure it out, right now the super mason gang is a problem
I agree with evil there a chance they won't be killed tonight because of mass role targeting, don't think mafia will risk the fact doc save wasting their kill.
And yea the two of you are pretty much clear with that reveal in my eyes

Just hope you don't die, especially you evil as you have a thing for dying D1/N1....
I'm not worried too much about zirc just for the fact it's been a while they played, mafia can't be so mean as to target them first right...
 

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So, this is kinda awkward to play. Usually I play related to the role, either baiting or fake baiting nightkills, or reverse psychology it, or laying low strategically. Like this I don't know what's best and it irks me. Maybe others feel the same.
 

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🔥 It's getting hot in this building 🔥
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Votekill Demonspeed

This is a placeholder vote; he kinda deserves it after the scavenger game :teehee

So if mafia get it they have 2 choice:

- kill a mafia brother with it and get some Street creed with town.
- not use it and get lynched.

Unless they are multiple mafia groups in that case a scum would be able to persecute another mafia member 🤔

Checking the interaction thread, persecutor works on lovers, this could be how this is balanced.

Lover is a real possibility, my wound is aching must... Kill... Lambu...

@votekill lambu
for now just placeholder vote, in case i cant do it later.

Votekill Asako
Lol, yeah I'm not. Was checking from work and am now heading for the weekend, so not sure I will come back before Day end... so...

VOTEKILL ERINYES for now. Stats say 42% mafia, so among the best odds on this one..
Votekill Lizardy
Don't have any suspicions yet, but votes must be cast.
for now i VOTEKILL SHAD for no reason at all i just don't suspect anyone yet.
still not sure about where i'll be heading, either 2nd floor or rooftop

Votekill Sakura
for now
ok so read rly fast, got a fkn headache, not sure how well I understood what you guys have discussed, can someone summarize for a very tired very dizzy glass wearing miss Potato-chan? onegai ;_;

what floor are we going to and why?
How is the prosecutor role given? Is it randomized? Do the ppl discuss and choose a person?
Read that prosecutor killing townie dies with him. So if mafia gets prosecutor they'll probably sacrifice a fellow mafia to look good in the eyes of town, but then again I think they'd avoid getting the prosecutor role and hope that a townie kills another townie to get 2 lynches.
On the other side it'd be really neat to get them all in one floor :))) have roles revealed, since max number on a floor is 8, we'd see how many mafias were (if we were lucky to get all in one) and then the next step would be everyone to reveal and just pick out the weaklings :)))

I am torn between these XDD
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how rude :)) is it my name? is it my goddess beauty? Isi it my resemblance to Zuko? doshite?

jk jk I know they're random af rn XD



hmmm who to vote for, has no one raised any suspicion? XD I'll just pick a random

!Votekill Goodboy
Guess reading what's everyone is saying, the prosecutor ability isn't as good as it seems considering it won't really confirm the shooter, but on the bright side the one shot at will be either be confirmed or we have an other mafia dead
Hmm, btw with how my health is there a chance i won't be active this game as i was planning to be ( probably say this but in the end i be still active knowing myself) but just so everyone know in case

Also going to vote for james
It's not usual he yet to appear, and don't think he said he was busy unlike lambu

I probably change tho depend on how things go on and when he actually appear, so consider it more a random vote in case I don't appear in the end
I’m going to votekill Heaven for using the “I’m too cute to be scum let me post a gif early in the game” play tactic.
Votekill Tatsumaki.
votekill Crescent Jinx
Vote kill @SirSamuel016. That's my good night to you :heh. Also role playing :fan.
I will !votekill avietar will likely change later, can‘t backread pages but I thought some of his/her reasonings odd regarding floor selection iirc.
Placeholder !votekill Digitaldude
I've read the mechanics so far. Seems pretty strong with lots of role reveals although those are only private it still gonna help a lot. Not sure if I understood it correctly but either this game has a ton of killing roles so that we get reduced to 18/15 players rather quickly (and not as in 1-1-1-1-1-1 meaning 3 day and 3 night phases), hot potato for example is already adding up to those potential extra kills or we got tons of sleepers/traitors/mentor/Shapeshifter with this illusions.
We should make use of our roles though to figure out quickly who has an investigation role even without the role reveals, with 2 floors and like what 3-4 maybe 5 nights at best and Mafia potentially going after the ones whos roles got revealed to themselves we won't have that many townies with the knowledge about their roles.

Also Votekill Asako for now.
Votekill Lady pompom
Nevermind, conexion just got better and changed it on phone

I cant quite follow what this floor talk is going for so I will first votekill Zirconium cause she doesn't have votes on her and read till what time allows. Should be home by the time the last hour hits.
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Also Im townie green as lettuce, so please dont kill me :lambirb
Changing to VOTEKILL SAKURA
I was watching my cousin's wedding up until recently, but I'm catching up now.

That said, I don't want end up missing the end again, so I'm leaving a placeholder vote on my apparently eager fan:

Votekill DD
Votekill Holt, just placeholders, will pay more attention to this game tomorrow, reread things.
how chivalrous of you, to protect poor Goodboy, who's role or alliance isn't even known (while we're at it, neither is yours, despite this reasoning you give making me think you're in kahoots with goodboy somehow).

Alright, for the sake of the game, I will continue addressing you Evil3ye. And that.s that.

And I will always plead my case, especially when I know I'm town, like I've done in the past and always proven myself. I find it funny that you of all ppl wouldn't have noticed a pattern between my 2 mafioso games and all the rest townie roles by now, and I doubt you didn't because I know you're not stupid. You just loooovee triggering me.

So, not gonna regret locking so early anymore.

!Votelock Hamster
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yeah i mentioned he votelocked on me earlier, his reasoning is such bullcrap his post said "changing my vote to votekill sakura"
Holt said:
Oh also, Votekill Erin
Shobu_Yoruichi said:
As i'm pretty late, i will pm to go to second floor. Would like 3, but at this late... don't have hopes.

Votekill Lady Pompom
digitaldude said:
votelock asako
Asako said:
Well then
Votelock DD
Desin24 said:
Randomizer said votekill Tatsumaki
Shad said:
Top 10 anime betrayals

@VoteLock Sakura

I don't want to deal with this shit again tomorrow
3x
sakura-aneki/Shoto - (Tsar Blyatinum [#182], Evil3ye [#300], Shad #414)
3x
Asako/Froppy - (Erinyes [#167], JamesRye [#235], digitaldude [#380])
3x
digitaldude/Invisible Girl - (Zirconium [#232], SonOfDaws [#324], Asako [#383])
2x
Lady Pompom/Creati - (Tatsumaki [#258], Shobu_Yoruichu [#351])
2x
Erinyes/Pinky - (Holt [#346], Grysun [#385])
2x
Tatsumaki/Real Steel - (Juviii [#195], Desin [#409] )
1x
Evil3ye/Shinso - (sakura-aneki [#333])
1x
Tsar Blyatinum/Lizardry - (avietar [#174])
1x
Demonspeed/Tsukuyomi - (SirSamuel016 [#55])
1x
Shad/Deku - (Maryxxi [#179])
1x
Equaling Heaven/PhantomThief - (Crescent Jinx [#186])
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Crescent Jinx/Nejire - (Equaling Heaven [#209])
1x
SirSamuel016/Vantablack - (Demonspeed [#216])
1x
avietar/Battle Fist - (GrySun [#221])
1x
Zirconium/Dynamight - (Lambu [#278])
1x
Holt/Ingenium - (Lady Pompom [#325])




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(ps.: the countdown my need an F5 to work)​
 
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I also think everyone who is a ??? role'd townie should try to target someone on D1 to check if the role perhaps is an active day role. Just to exclude those from the bucket list.

It's more problematic with like graveyard or day command roles. Like how would you ever know you have a role like Mortician or Necro without actively wasting one night on a dead person. And vigilante or cowboys is something that is even weird doing and regulating from host perspective. So no idea
 

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I just noticed I got a bunch of typos in my last post. Oh well.
And I know where you coming from. By spreading we cover more space but we have less personel control. The opposite happens if we clumper/unify. Start of a game always seem to be a pain for town, as it should be.

We have to figure it out asap because Mafia can just intercept pur every move since by the book we only move to the floo pad in the next night.
 

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Haha. I didn't really have an end game revealing while being barely awake, and not understanding the floor and pad rules, but I think there's always a bright side.

Like firstly, Zirkon and myself are at least a bit more trusted now, rather than the other blush of people who don't have their roles revealed at all, and secondly, perhaps the Mafia will abstain from killing us for now, as we might have a high concentration on role uses on ourselves the first few nights.

I'd probably target Zirkon myself, but dunno yet for sure.
Hmm I'm thinking, just biased from my own Sane Doctor Super Mason game(was the latest hydra I think), that it's best you and Zirc target each other in case one of you is Doctor, meanwhile all of us target randomly one of you 2? Just that this may result in a prostitute block on one of you 2, but we don't know how bad that is. May scare away mafia from committing to a 50% kill chance.

But yeah this gives us something to work with early, just not sure if pooling all actions together like this and focusing on you 2 is better than had we been left to target by our own choices. Will give mafias lots of leeway in their active role target claims. But we can work off of all that.

I think you 2 should be town pretty reasonably, unless one is also a Traitor due to Pandagame. But nothing to worry about for now, apart from keeping you 2 alive.
 
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