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Sorry, this took a while >_< Wanted to extensive player reviews, but now that the next game has started, I figured I'd keep it short after all

Thank you again for participating, everyone! Those who spent time playing, those who won, those who hosted and even the spectators; all of you together made this a fun experience! The death pad at times vitriolic, at other times, just toxic (as it should be). I'll go over some stuff here, cover the broad strokes.


👨‍🚒 👩‍🚒 Mechanics and Balance 🦸‍♂️ 🦸‍♀️

Compared to what you guys got, my earliest proposals for this mechanic were actually much more demanding of the players. For better or worse, Noona's input balanced the game out by taking away a considerable amount of decision-making. Personally, I'm a spice man, but over the course of hosting a couple of games now with her, I think I've grown to not just respect but incorporate some of her game-design ideas/preferences into my own. A few more games and I'll be Brazilian Corruption'd so much, I can apply for a passport.

At the base of it all was Noona's inverse janitor idea, whereby only death could reveal your role. Though presumably harder on newer players, across the board, it decidedly did influence the player approach towards the game. Maybe the most noticeable effect was that the players were deprived of just enough information to focus on the actual behaviour of others. Sure, some of the mafo made spicy claims, but maybe the lack of information across the board did more to help the noobies than not knowing hampered them.

The Burning Building stuff I think I produced a week or week and a half before the game started. We spent like 3 years trying to figure this out, our styles and personalities clashing constantly. 'We' here also includes Poopler and Marms who had their own ideas and inputs. The building idea I thought would have incorporated most ideas. The voting-for-your-role bit became the central part of the design, with us hoping that nearly everybody would know their role by the time D4ish would come around.

Initially, our ideas on how to arrange the First and Second floors differed. I personally wanted different effects for both floors, with only one floor being the Reveal floor (but revealing 5 instead of 3). Noona developed an interesting line of thought here, involving player choice and the idea that the floor capacities should be what Players aim to manage, rather than just the individual choice of what powers to use. This was enforced by the floor only working if a precise amount of people entered. Comparatively, this meant that some amount of people would probably always get their role revealed, which would keep the game moving smoothly.

The Roof Floor revealing Mafia created an interesting situation early around D2ish when the second McDo was revealed. What's painful is that it turned out that was the second Doc hiding amongst you 💀 Btw, in hindsight, I think it would have been better to personally reveal to the mafia member in question that their role got revealed that it was them who was revealed (i.e. let the McDo know they're the McDo once the top floor revealed as such).

The Prosecutor Floor, depending on how actions played out, could have been hidoi. While ofc it was clear that at some point a bunch of Prosecutors could be walking around town, it was scary to consider how many shots could be fired in one day. Personally, 1.) I figured the range of shots would have been around 4 and that 2.) people wouldn't go around cajoling the prosecutors (as they might be mafia killed otherwise). Perhaps it was for the best to force people (Shobu) to shoot but overall, given how valuable the power is, though I can't really imagine town revenge-lynching a reluctant Prosecutor. I mean I ain't y'all but I'd be scared of losing sth important. Though I'm not sure about the minutiae, Tatsu who was in the room with Eri then proceeded to kill her :lmao

Oh yeah, the Ground Floor, where y'all started, initially was supposed to randomly poison one of the leavers 💀 In the end, we settled on Hot Potato being more Player-friendly. My idea was that people who failed to enter another floor would just end up here again, but RNG'ing you onto another floor was deemed, again, more Player-friendly (which is true). So, as far as the mechanic goes, all I can say is I'm happy we managed to figure out sth that was acceptable to all four of us lol ç__ç

As for balance, there were a few hiccups here and there. While some players got shafted accidentally (Pomcha), intentionally (Sakura), stupidly (Sam) and some others didn't use their role altogether (Lamb, Van), a central complaint we've received has to do with the amount of mafo in the game. Personally, I think the mafo should have had it quite rough, and simply played out the end-game well (though they had a couple of advantages going into this game-state).

The most important dynamic here that, admittedly I personally at least, didn't fully consider, was that the number of player-kills per night (if all of them go through i.e. are unblocked etc.) will only go down once the full team has been slain. That's to say, in the Red case, for instance, only once Desu died, would there be one night-kill less. Sure, losing (wo)man-power sucks, especially if the role attached to the name was strong, and it sets you back half-a-phase in meeting your wincon, but notably, the killing power of mafo doesn't go down. Because of this, even with the Red implosion and lack of mislynching by town, so long purple avoided stacking their kills with Red (through prediction or just prestidigitation), they'd able to piggyback on their killing powers. It is not like we didn't attempt to balance this; with the abundance of prosecutor powers and another party out to kill them without having Doc immediately available, they were at risk. It's just that so long town consistently culls one team, and neither mafo focuses on killing their counterpart, ironically, the remaining team 'absorbs' the momentum.

Some other balance concerns or mishaps will be touched on in the following section. Lots of it has been discussed in pads on disc. If there's something else that I didn't cover here and wasn't discussed on disc, ofc feel free to point it out here on the thread and we can discuss it​

🚒 🚑 Players 🔥💀

16. sakura_aneki as Shoto | Mafia Boss | Lynched D1
It is unfortunate you died quite early and set off a cascade. Uh, I don't think you did yourself a lot of favours by locking so early, but, in the same vein, it's not entirely fair to hold you being killed by your own fam against you. Sure, anyone could have killed you bc of this move, but it shouldn't have been your own guy. I suppose 'lesson learnt' for next time; can't trust anyone in this game 🗡


1. GrySun as Lemillion | Mafia Detective | Killed N1
One of our resident favourites, unfortunately, was slain in single combat. The only non-town to be slain by another at night, in fact. A little saddening, though not entirely unexpected. Since your killer signed up for next game, surely you'll have a chance at revenge this time around 💀


15. Holt as Ingenium | Detective, Traitor | Lynched D2
Insane Det with (Naive) Traitor is (one of) my 'preferred' builds; it gives the player two things to figure out by using the same mechanic. They have some room for diagnosing their situation through their own volition. Given your unfortunate early death, however, this little mini-game never came to fruition. It is a little saddening you died a sacrificial lamb; technically you were the only mislynch in-game


24. Evil3ye as Shinso | Doctor, Super Mason | Killed N2
Though it has been mentioned many a time that Eripan couldn't target easy, since the Super Mason secondaries weren't hidden, Eripan had a couple of targets to pick from (should they declare, which they did). So while purely number-wise she was in a tough spot, eligible targets could somewhat vouch for themselves. Funnily enough, she actually picked a 'hidden' Super Mason (Jinx), who lied to everyone (including Eri) so that she could play the part of a cleansed townie. I think you were next on the recruit list, Evil, or pretty high up there at least. Hopefully, you get to play a bit longer next time


11. Shad as Deku | Mafia Doctor | Lynched D3
A few... miscalculations... Here and there... You did redeem yourself though, and almost all actions you took were considerably spicy. I liked the rogue PGO claim, though maybe it was a little too early to make that sort of claim. Nonetheless, fun to see, though I imagine it less delightful to be on the receiving end of your dagger lol


6. JamesRye as Cellophane | Apprentice, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D3
You even said 'Ah I hope I ain't the Apprentice' :lmao I never quite got why you chose to shoot Erichi btw :0


9. Lady Pompom as Creati | Psychiatrist, Hot Potato | Exploded D3
Sorry you exploded a phase too early, Pomcha ç___ç Your main role was supposed to detect secondaries, verify such claims, maybe pressure the traitor who was still unsure of their position. In an earlier iteration, there were also Lovers that you could find, but we determined that could create a pad overload for two very unfortunate players. In the end, you were kept in so that you could snuff out the eventual Traitor, or draw attention to players hiding their secondary like Jinx. Sorta ironic the secondary-spotting power... was killed by a passable secondary


2. Erinyes as Pinky | Mason Recruiter, Prosecutor | Killed N3
You got done dirty Eripan, and you died an ironic death; after surviving the Prosecutor shot, you got killed as soon as you got your own hands on it. It beats suiciding on the role, though. At least you recruited someone? ç__ç


18. Asako Gryffindor as Froppy | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D4
Thank you for subbing in Gryff! Your predecessor lowkey fucked up your position but thanks to Shad's heroics and your way with words you managed to pull through and live to shitpost another day. Hopefully next time you join you start out less compromised 🙏


17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt | Mafia Detective, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D4
I think you should have been slightly more patient XD You got peer-pressured into shooting, and I respect you doing so, but you should have been more patient anyway. I didn't think a Mafia would risk it. And if I had, personally, I might have Shadded one of my own. Ofc, it was also more or less your first game, and you were in a tough position (unlike your other noobie counterparts, you were mafia). Oh, also, I like how you took the Bankai part of the explanation seriously and actually publically went Bankai xD It's unfortunate that last-hour rule was invoked on you, that slightly hurt your credentials probably, but props for the flair. Spice good


7. Lambu as Red Riot | Detective, Sickly | Killed N4
Some raised the Sickly v unknown role point, and personally, I disagree with the notion that Sickly made the primary role unusable. Especially on the first night, when Sickly'ing someone was not much better than RNG D1 vote, I myself at least would have used my role to see if there was feedback. I can see the cost-benefit part that comes from choosing between using Det and Sickly, but you didn't know your primary at all until you died ç__ç Ofc I can understand your position, but I didn't think a player would opt into not trying their main role at all. Sth for us/me to consider next time.


4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan | Spy, Super Mason | Killed N4
Interesting ploy, hiding your Spy status from everyone. A notably powerful strategy and quite believable at that. Eventually, you became a target for your information retention skills LOL, another kind of information gathering I suppose. V dangerous


3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D5
If I could have made a top 5 worst roles to claim in your position, I think Troublemaker might just be on there. It bought you another day, but at what cost? LOL Other than that, I liked your presence in the Floor pads. It was kinda funny how at some point (I think N3 or 4 or sth) you entered the room, all 'heyo what's up' and 12 people all at once started attacking you. I'd say 'poor guy' but you bullied me a lot so...


14. Juviii as Uravity | Jesus | Killed N5
Juvling has noticeably improved; compared to earlier games where you passively trolled town by pulling a Shinoona on us and going poof. I'd (we'd) say you're much more involved now. Furthermore, it's not naive aggression but pretty accurate remarks and to-the-point arguments. Sure, you were confirmed, but your gameplay itself might have warranted a kill at this point in the game anyway


5. Demonspeed Vandred as Tsukuyomi | Hider | Killed N5
Thank you Vindred for subbing in for Demon! You were quite important in that you were a sub for a townie, not a mafo (which usually is the case). Hopefully, precedent now has been set that any kind of player can be subbed in, not just mafia lol. Did you have any developed thoughts on how to handle subbing in better (things that make it easier or faired for the sub in to fit in)? Curious if you do. Unfortunate situation with you missing the timing to PM your action ç__ç Game might have looked a bit different had you submitted, but who can tell how much tbh. As usual, solid and balanced play. Had the game gone on a little longer you could have even deployed a Vanplan or two.


10. desin24 as Shemage | Mafia Escort | Lynched D6
The final Red to die. You did quite good tbh, surviving or as long as you did. Especially your fighting spirit shone through 🔥 I feel like you roll prosti more often than Taku or sth at this point lol


19. Avietar as Battlefist | Mortician | Killed N6
Ahh, we had a few miscomms in our PM concerning role usage, but overall, I'm happy you were as active as you were! You had a slightly harder role to figure out the purpose of (which... you might have had on N3 iirc if not for the miscommunication >_<). Overall, I liked how you did your best and stayed in the pads till quite late in your timezone xD Good stuff


21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl | Bodyguard | Lynched D7
Ahh I felt very bad receiving your PM's DD. At multiple points, I think not just me, but the other hosts as well would have wanted to PM you, assuring you your actions went through and that we didn't forget or whatever. It just was your role that didn't give you any feedback ç__ç Towards the end the more experienced players managed to capitalize on the attrition damage the chibis took and paint you as suspicious.


8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack | Mafia Boss | WINNER
Very involved in the mafia pads, scheming it out. I liked your play by the end, fucking up floor pad. I suppose any mafo could have done it, but I think that act greatly contributed to the momentum-seeking chibis losing their footing. Had they had a pad to discuss and consolidate, they might have turned against you guys in a fury. Pretty good job on staying separated from the others till the end; I'd have to go back and check but I don't think many players had an end-game in mind that linked you to Lawl or Tatsu.


12. Maryxxi as Suneater | Prostitute | LOSER
Similarly to Avi, I liked your activity a lot! Even when you were asking questions, they were well-thought-out inquiries that clearly indicated some level of research and understanding of the game. Like the other chibi's, you were mostly hampered by lack of experience and not having role list info at the ready (both of which can be helped in few games). Your targeting was decent (as well as equal parts tragic when you got blocked by the mafo prosti). I hope you stick around for more games later 🙏


13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel | Mafia Doctor | WINNER
Was the part about you having to go to the station for wi-fi real? That's some real MVP-level dedication LOL Tbh you were pretty invisible (as a mafo) for the vast majority of the game and even towards the end you weren't really suspected. You fit in naturally and were excluded from most end-game mafo rosters. Good stuff


20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief | Bulletproof | LOSER
I think on thread the most inquisitive townie! Aggressive forward play, asking questions and producing theories. play like a noob (though then again you didn't last game either). In a few more games I think you'll have a much better understanding of the possibilities available. GG 🙏


22. Zirconium as Dynamight | Banshee, Super Mason | LOSER
Like Mary, I liked the questions you asked. Really didn't come across as a first-time player of sorts. I hope you keep playing and try your luck at solving the murder mystery next time ç__ç


23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy | Mafia Escort | WINNER
Hyung-nim simply can't be mafia :blush I think hyung did a good job staying under the radar and keeping it together throughout the game. I feel like usually you'd have attracted more attention, but similar to the Titan game, even as a mafo you sat it out. Your targeting was quite good too. In terms of grit, Tatsu probs did 'best', but in terms of performance, you're up there!
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VOTEKILL SONOFDAWS for now.

Sorry for the inactivity, had a busy weekend. Will try catch up after some sleep
 

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i think u missed JamesRye for the 2nd floor (#537)
Ah shit, I did too. Thanks for catching it :thumbs

Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (0/5):


2nd Floor (7/8):

Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
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VOTEKILL SONOFDAWS for now.

Sorry for the inactivity, had a busy weekend. Will try catch up after some sleep
Any idea which floor you'll go to?
 

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I tend to do my own thing and have my own opinion
This when you jumped on me based solely on Lemillion/Gry's saying I was being tryhard.
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There's this monster headache destroying me and it stopping me from beong awake even tho I slept like a log. Trying to catch up tho.
 

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Well, as with 7 hours to end d2, i won't be here when that happens. Bed time here.

Votekill Lady Pompom

I honestly want to have everybody from floor 1 in the voting chart. From the info we got to locate the Mafia Doctor. Shad is missing, but with his clockwork job in d1, who wants to vote him? Would be a waste, apparently.

In case things turn on for what i thought, to help in case another tip appears. That's my reasoning guys.

G'night



PD: Hope someone helps me with my questions in page 29 :pout
 

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I'm trying to stay awake and on track but I just can't right now. Pain too stronk. Better to rest and wait to see if the floor I headed to will have a pad.
 

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VOTEKILL SONOFDAWS for now.

Sorry for the inactivity, had a busy weekend. Will try catch up after some sleep
Evil3ye: *Asking not to over-analyze*
Me: Ay sorry. My bad
Evil3ye: *votes to kill* *leaves, does not explain further*
Me: :cookiestare



I mean, you don't strike me as particularly suspicious, but with a threat on my life ("life"), you're kinda pushing me into a position where it would be stupid of me NOT to try to heavily analyze your posts...
 

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Good morning everyone
So about my case, i seriously still don't get why I'm being so supected other than being in the floor where mafia doc there, god my luck is really cursed these days
I mean especially yesterday with the voting on me, i really explain my reason about sakura, you guys acting like what happen was so clear and that it totally made sense with what sakura doing
Let's make that clear, it wasn't and I'm pretty sure half of you were surprised that she was actually mafia as what happening came out of no where, honestly sakura is always angry in these games half the time i see her so seemed normal to me.
What wasn't normal was DD sudden vote on me to save himself with absolutely no reason
The reason i voted him was basically my mind going "well fuck you too, you're coming with me" type of mindset
Not like i had better choice when i believed sakura to be townie and DD sudden vote change.
I was willing to gamble but honestly looking at my luck these days, i probably could been the one to die :XD
Plus the fact for a while no one was willing to save sakura made her look as townie, afterall she was basically at lynch point with only two votes and one of them being a votelock and without a vote to protect herself, well before DD changed his vote on me.
Probably could mean the mafia weren't there at the end to save or DD attempt on doing it


Also @Holt you never asked for a summary on what's happening in the pad, at least didn't see it (maybe it been burried when i came in)
Still I been basically asking you there multiple time who will you vote and yet no respond.
Ah
This remind me, i think gry been asking everyone who they could target when i wasn't on, don't think everyone responded so that's good
guess that's sth to keep in mind for all the other pads

Plus holt, you said only gry and shad were at the end there, but the pad was basically active till the last second with me erin pompom gry and shad
You left too quickly to be count there at the end when you weren't


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Btw @Tatsumaki why did you never come in the pad ?
At least holt did no matter how late and quick the visit was
 
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Votekill DD

Reason: His weird vote change from yesterday. I didn‘t hear anything from him yet about his decision for Asako except for the „everyone equally suspicious“ argument. That doesn‘t sound very convincing to me and unlike him Asako is trying to explain herself. I still don‘t really trust her but I trust her more than DD at least. If you guys go with the 1st floor candidates, I‘m also fine with it tho. I will try to talk more about them later.
 

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Btw @Tatsumaki why did you never come in the pad ?
I was added 20 mins before it closed, kinda late to backread the discussion and properly participate in it (and even if I wanted to, irl matters didn't allow me to spend those 20 mins on the pad)
 

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Here is the recap so far, not too much to say, but it still is worth to look at nigh actions for exemple. If i missed anything feel free to tell me i will update Asap !





Hints and roles recap


1. GrySun as Lemillion Mafia Detective Killed N1
2. Erinyes as Pinky
3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack
4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan
5. Demonspeed as Tsukuyomi
6. JamesRye as Cellophane - Got prosecutor ability from top floor
7. Lambu as Red Riot
8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack
9. Lady Pompom as Creati
10. desin24 as Shemage
11. Shad as Deku - Said he is PGO #
12. Maryxxi as Suneater
13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel
14. Juviii as Uravity Townie Killed N1
15. Holt as Ingenium
16. sakura_aneki as Shoto Mafia Boss Lynched D1
17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt
18. Asako as Froppy
19. Avietar as Battlefist
20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief
21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl
22. Zirconium as Dynamight - Claimed supermason #44
23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy
24. Evil3ye as Shinso - Claimed supermason #30




Night & days Actions


N1 actions
- Avietar targetted Gry #442
- Lambu targetted Erin gave sickly virus #484
- Erin targetted Jinx
- DD used his role #453
- Crescent targetted Evil #467
- james targetted Lambu #537
- Heaven used his ability #557



N2 actions


N3 actions





Floors


1- Night 1

  • Floor 1 8/8
One is Mafia Doctor
Erin,
gry
Shad
Crescent
Asako
Holt,
Tatsumaki
Pompom-chan

-> Roles revealed Shad, Probably gry and Holt according to the votes


  • Floor2 7/8 couldnt fill
Demonspeed
Lambu
desin24
Maryxxi
Shobu_Yoruichi
digitaldude
Evil3ye


  • Top floor 5/5 (#455)
James Rye - > got prosecutor ability
Zircy
Sam
Son-kun
Juviii


  • Roof Top 3/3
Tsar
Avietar
Maryxxi

2- Night 2



Votes
Track of the votes : here ( thxs Zircy)

Who's heading where
Track of desired floors : Here ( thxs Sam)
 

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Bit over 4 hours to go, and we're missing over half the votes as well as needing half of the player base to nominate where they'll go. I will go to the Top Floor again, and hopefully if enough people join me we allocate another offensive weapon to use against the mafia.

Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (1/5):
SirSamuel (#591)

2nd Floor (7/8):

Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
 

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Ah shit, I did too. Thanks for catching it :thumbs

Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (0/5):


2nd Floor (7/8):

Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
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Any idea which floor you'll go to?
i said i will go (hopefully) on top or roof in post #499 :)

did you try to use your role, sam ?

@Holt nice try ! :thumbs can you give hints or info on your role, you definitely got the reveal, ofc im not asking a plain reveal if you cant but at least confirm you got your role, and if possible give hints, and can you tell us who did you target last night ?
same for pompom and asako, desin. and everyone if possible :arf Desin you're unusually way too silent.
 

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Evil3ye: *Asking not to over-analyze*
Me: Ay sorry. My bad
Evil3ye: *votes to kill* *leaves, does not explain further*
Me: :cookiestare



I mean, you don't strike me as particularly suspicious, but with a threat on my life ("life"), you're kinda pushing me into a position where it would be stupid of me NOT to try to heavily analyze your posts...
Really just a placeholder. Saw you didn't have any votes on yourself yet and yesterday you kind of just felt bit under the radar to me.

im now.awake though so will likely change before the day ends
 

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My considerations for my vote today are the players on Floor 1 Night 1. As we know, there's a Mafia Doctor among them so we've got to push them for as much info as we can.

@Holt @Shad As both of you are allegedly the ones who discovered what your roles are thanks to the floor vote, I believe it would be good for you to hint at what your roles are.

Between Erin, Jinx, Asako, Tatsu, and Pom I believe that Asako and Jinx are prime candidates followed by Pom, Tatsu, and Erin. Erin is crippled so I think she's less of a worry than the rest, Pom I feel could be flying under the radar a little and we should be wary of. Tatsu has also been oddly quiet but someone mentioned there may be other factors as to why that would be? Jinx and Asako stink a bit for me, and the Jinx v Holt talks were a bit odd. Throw in Shad and Holt into the mix and if I had to label that floor a drink it'd be SUSaparilla.

i said i will go (hopefully) on top or roof in post #499 :)

did you try to use your role, sam ?
Ah shit I missed another one :XD Gomen gomen

For what it's worth I did. I hoped I might have an investigative role and targeted Desin who I can't get a read on but I got nothing so I'm assuming I'm pretty vanilla.

Would you mind joining me on the Top Floor tonight? 😳 Pls don't gib me the corona

Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (2/5):
Erin? (#499)
SirSamuel (#591)

2nd Floor (7/8):

Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
 

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Morning y'all.

Good morning everyone
So about my case, i seriously still don't get why I'm being so supected other than being in the floor where mafia doc there, god my luck is really cursed these days
I mean especially yesterday with the voting on me, i really explain my reason about sakura, you guys acting like what happen was so clear and that it totally made sense with what sakura doing
Let's make that clear, it wasn't and I'm pretty sure half of you were surprised that she was actually mafia as what happening came out of no where, honestly sakura is always angry in these games half the time i see her so seemed normal to me.
What wasn't normal was DD sudden vote on me to save himself with absolutely no reason
The reason i voted him was basically my mind going "well fuck you too, you're coming with me" type of mindset
Not like i had better choice when i believed sakura to be townie and DD sudden vote change.
I was willing to gamble but honestly looking at my luck these days, i probably could been the one to die :XD
Plus the fact for a while no one was willing to save sakura made her look as townie, afterall she was basically at lynch point with only two votes and one of them being a votelock and without a vote to protect herself, well before DD changed his vote on me.
Probably could mean the mafia weren't there at the end to save or DD attempt on doing it


Also @Holt you never asked for a summary on what's happening in the pad, at least didn't see it (maybe it been burried when i came in)
Still I been basically asking you there multiple time who will you vote and yet no respond.
Ah
This remind me, i think gry been asking everyone who they could target when i wasn't on, don't think everyone responded so that's good
guess that's sth to keep in mind for all the other pads

Plus holt, you said only gry and shad were at the end there, but the pad was basically active till the last second with me erin pompom gry and shad
You left too quickly to be count there at the end when you weren't


Edit:fixed grammatical fault, big posts make it more likely i make them
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Btw @Tatsumaki why did you never come in the pad ?
At least holt did no matter how late and quick the visit was
Hm, still you as a townie being ready to gamble with your life when you could be anything instead of securing your survival past day 1 is strange indeed. If you had been unlucky you could be dead and sakura would still try to rip off our heads for nearly killing her, lol. Plus I still don't get why you jumped to Demon's now Vandred's side to support his question and saw his whole "Det" question as a "Mafia det" question instead of waiting for him to explain himself. Usually townies ain't that much supportive of each other/defending another on day 1 except for role reveals and talking points and this game nobody could hint or reveal anything and like I said Demon's question was weird because with the way the rules were voiced it just means we are basically doing our actions blindly until we get the reveals due first and second floor. Double plus you belong to the group which has a mafia doc and 2 people who got their roles revealed. Granted there is a chance one of the two revealed ones is the Mafia doc who is now preparing his lie to be normal doc or whatever else but chances of Mafia Doc being one of the other 5 is higher. Since Gry was part Mafia has a deep interest in knowing their own roles as well as knowing which potential townies also know their roles besides them, thus the chances for red, maybe even orange Mafia, to go on mass into one room is there. At least for the first night, either due chance or by will. Who knows what the Mafia scums talked about at night, they might now see the first and second floor as traps too risky to risk many of them at once as we could share the names of everyone being there and knowing from which floor the mafia role was revealed. If it had been both first and second it would be too many people (16) but so it is far easier to concentrate on (just 8 now 7).
In other words you just going "I am cursed/unlucky" won't be enough to convince me why you risked your own survival with voting for DD instead of thrusting sakura over the edge and since you are part of a 7 player strong group which surely has the Mafia Doc in it we gotta start trimming that group one by one anyway.

Did you try to use your action last night and if so on who?
 

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Bit over 4 hours to go, and we're missing over half the votes as well as needing half of the player base to nominate where they'll go. I will go to the Top Floor again, and hopefully if enough people join me we allocate another offensive weapon to use against the mafia.

Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (1/5):
SirSamuel (#591)

2nd Floor (7/8):
Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)

First Floor (1/8):
Shad? (#555)
Morning.

I will go to floor 2, everybody else left from floor 1 should go floor 3 to help us full it for another persecutor?

@SirSamuel016 check my post #555 for answer to your role question
 

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Here is the recap so far, not too much to say, but it still is worth to look at nigh actions for exemple. If i missed anything feel free to tell me i will update Asap !





Hints and roles recap


1. GrySun as Lemillion Mafia Detective Killed N1
2. Erinyes as Pinky
3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack
4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan
5. Demonspeed as Tsukuyomi
6. JamesRye as Cellophane - Got prosecutor ability from top floor
7. Lambu as Red Riot
8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack
9. Lady Pompom as Creati
10. desin24 as Shemage
11. Shad as Deku - Said he is PGO #
12. Maryxxi as Suneater
13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel
14. Juviii as Uravity Townie Killed N1
15. Holt as Ingenium
16. sakura_aneki as Shoto Mafia Boss Lynched D1
17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt
18. Asako as Froppy
19. Avietar as Battlefist
20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief
21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl
22. Zirconium as Dynamight - Claimed supermason #44
23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy
24. Evil3ye as Shinso - Claimed supermason #30




Night & days Actions


N1 actions
- Avietar targetted Gry #442
- Lambu targetted Erin gave sickly virus #484
- Erin targetted Jinx
- DD used his role #453
- Crescent targetted Evil #467
- james targetted Lambu #537
- Heaven used his ability #557



N2 actions


N3 actions





Floors


1- Night 1

  • Floor 1 8/8
One is Mafia Doctor
Erin,
gry
Shad
Crescent
Asako
Holt,
Tatsumaki
Pompom-chan

-> Roles revealed Shad, Probably gry and Holt according to the votes


  • Floor2 7/8 couldnt fill
Demonspeed
Lambu
desin24
Maryxxi
Shobu_Yoruichi
digitaldude
Evil3ye


  • Top floor 5/5 (#455)
James Rye - > got prosecutor ability
Zircy
Sam
Son-kun
Juviii


  • Roof Top 3/3
Tsar
Avietar
Maryxxi

2- Night 2



Votes
Track of the votes : here ( thxs Zircy)

Who's heading where
Track of desired floors : Here ( thxs Sam)
I targeted you.
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gonna vote for one of the floor 1 people.
 

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Any idea which floor you'll go to?
I don't know..shall i perhaps go to the second?

So did i read it right, all three top voted from floor 1 night 1 had their roles revealed to them?

If there was a voting and we know Gry was mafia as well as a Mafia Doctor (could or could not be from same team), I'd expect that to deny townies to learn their roles they cooperated to put themselves into pole positions. In that case Holt is very suspicious now.

I will give Shad a pass for now, because he clearly cannot be from same team as Sakura and gry, although PGO claim is quite a weird claim.
 

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Cheers @Shad for the update, and for pointing out the PGO claim. So you reckon you might've been targeted by Gry and blasted his brains out?

@Evil3ye as Shad just claimed the last spot for the 2nd floor maybe you're better off joining the Top Floor?

Update again:
Rooftop (3/3):
Tsar Blyatinum (#478)
Digitaldude (#491)
Shobu (#576)

Top Floor: (2/5):
Erin? (#499)
SirSamuel (#591)

2nd Floor (8/8):

Equaling Heaven (#481)
Avietar (#489)
Zirconium (#490)
Lambu (#492)
JamesRye (#537)
Tatsumaki (#568)
Maryxxi (#569)
Shad (#596)

First Floor (0/8):
 
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