Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[grey matter]

Nothing proves August can nullify attacks from someone on a level like Igneel lol.

Igneel is leagues stronger any human aside from FH Zeref.

Igneel destroys FH Zeref too.

 

[Ramen]

Igneel destroys FH Zeref too.

No he doesn't. Zeref makes up for the physicals gap with his hax

 

[grey matter]

No he doesn't. Zeref makes up for the physicals gap with his hax

Usually that would be the case.

Unfortunately for Zeref, Igneel can do what Natsu did, but better. He will burn away Zeref's space/time magic, rendering him incapable of reversing his time and restoring his body, and then destroy him.

Against Merc or Aldoron, I believe FH Zeref can eventually just win by outlasting them and through hax

 

[Ramen]

Unfortunately for Zeref, Igneel can do what Natsu did, but better. He will burn away Zeref's space/time magic, rendering him incapable of reversing his time and restoring his body, and then destroy him.

The writing for that fight against Zeref was garbage and was sort of retconned and shouldn't be considered. There were so many contradictions in that fight it's crazy.

 

[grey matter]

The writing for that fight against Zeref was garbage and was sort of retconned and shouldn't be considered. There were so many contradictions in that fight it's crazy.

What retcon are you talking about? Anything happened in anime? I skipped the final arc almost entirely

 

[Dimitri1220]

No, he couldn't. Even if we assume August can indeed nullify someone as powerful as Igneel, Igneel would still tank everything August throws at him effortlessly until August dies of old age. August has no option of winning, and Igneel has no option of losing, aside from just outright killing himself.

Even if we assume if his copy magic can't nullify Igneel's magic, he'll already have copied his dragon slaying magic which would actually give him a much better advantage: extreme resistance to Igneel's magic AND the ability to massively power up any time Igneel uses magic. I don't think you understand how much dragon slaying magic actually helps. Remember Erza vs Irene? The second Irene went dragon form, Erza got 1 shot by a slap. That's what I expect to happen to August if Igneel just uses physicals. Even when Erza one shot the meteor and was amped with PoF, she and Irene knew that she couldn't make a scratch on Irene's scales. However, when her sword got dragon saying magic, she went from not being able to even scratch Irene to one shotting her. That's an enormous power boost, yet somehow you think August's not even scratching Igneel...you realize he'll have that power boost + a major power up after eating Igneel's fire + Dragon Force + flames of emotions right? Look how a casual and nerfed Merc was easily beating team Natsu, then when Natsu ate some of Ignia's fire, he alone was ragfolling a serious and nerfed Merc. I don't get how you think Igneel's effortlessly no selling any of August's dragon slaying attacks.

 

[Ramen]

What retcon are you talking about? Anything happened in anime? I skipped the final arc almost entirely

He burned the Fairy Heart but can't burn underwater. It's not a retcon but just garbage writing.

 

[Seven777]

Even if we assume if his copy magic can't nullify Igneel's magic, he'll already have copied his dragon slaying magic which would actually give him a much better advantage: extreme resistance to Igneel's magic AND the ability to massively power up any time Igneel uses magic. I don't think you understand how much dragon slaying magic actually helps. Remember Erza vs Irene? The second Irene went dragon form, Erza got 1 shot by a slap. That's what I expect to happen to August if Igneel just uses physicals. Even when Erza one shot the meteor and was amped with PoF, she and Irene knew that she couldn't make a scratch on Irene's scales. However, when her sword got dragon saying magic, she went from not being able to even scratch Irene to one shotting her. That's an enormous power boost, yet somehow you think August's not even scratching Igneel...you realize he'll have that power boost + a major power up after eating Igneel's fire + Dragon Force + flames of emotions right? Look how a casual and nerfed Merc was easily beating team Natsu, then when Natsu ate some of Ignia's fire, he alone was ragfolling a serious and nerfed Merc. I don't get how you think Igneel's effortlessly no selling any of August's dragon slaying attacks.

He isn't scratching Igneel, because the gap between August and Igneel is infinitely larger than the gap between Erza and Eileen. For one, Igneel is immune to fire, so copying his DS magic is pointless anyway, it can't help him. But even if he wasn't, he would still take absolutely no damage from August's attacks even with DS advantage.

That was %50 Merc and that was Natsu. Natsu is stronger than August, much stronger, his regular Dragon Force without any power ups, would low diff August. Adding Ignia's power on top of that Dragon Force? He sneezes and August dies, so yes, he beats %50 Merc too. Hell, base Natsu beat FH Zeref. Dragon Force also isn't an ability dragons use, so August can't copy it. But even if we assumed August could copy Dragon Force, despite dragons not actually having Dragon Force, Igneel is even more powerful Merc, twice as powerful. So even if we assume August could copy Igneel's Dragon Slaying magic, could use dragon force and we for some reason pretend Igneel isn't immune to fire, Igneel still no-diffs August. And I'm not even talking low diff like Erza would low diff Lucy, I'm talking no diff like how Laxus would no diff Romeo. Igneel takes no damage, it's not a challenge for him, it's like Full Powered Aldo needing 100,000,000 Demo Fists to be beaten, Igneel doesn't even notice August is attacking him.

 

[LaGOAT]

The writing for that fight against Zeref was garbage and was sort of retconned and shouldn't be considered. There were so many contradictions in that fight it's crazy.

excuses and cap a fraction of ingeel's power from natsu could of killed zeref a full power ingeel is trashing FH zeref. base natsu was tanking FH zeref attacks. a 50% ingeel was able to tangle with acno.

 

[Dimitri1220]

He isn't scratching Igneel, because the gap between August and Igneel is infinitely larger than the gap between Erza and Eileen. For one, Igneel is immune to fire, so copying his DS magic is pointless anyway, it can't help him. But even if he wasn't, he would still take absolutely no damage from August's attacks even with DS advantage.

That was %50 Merc and that was Natsu. Natsu is stronger than August, much stronger, his regular Dragon Force without any power ups, would low diff August. Adding Ignia's power on top of that Dragon Force? He sneezes and August dies, so yes, he beats %50 Merc too. Hell, base Natsu beat FH Zeref. Dragon Force also isn't an ability dragons use, so August can't copy it. But even if we assumed August could copy Dragon Force, despite dragons not actually having Dragon Force, Igneel is even more powerful Merc, twice as powerful. So even if we assume August could copy Igneel's Dragon Slaying magic, could use dragon force and we for some reason pretend Igneel isn't immune to fire, Igneel still no-diffs August. And I'm not even talking low diff like Erza would low diff Lucy, I'm talking no diff like how Laxus would no diff Romeo. Igneel takes no damage, it's not a challenge for him, it's like Full Powered Aldo needing 100,000,000 Demo Fists to be beaten, Igneel doesn't even notice August is attacking him.

Exactly how strong do you think Igneel is? August is massively stronger than Brandish who's country level, and his suicide attack can destroy something the size of the USA (large country - small continent). Sure that won't help him against Igneel but my point is he's not fodder to dragons like you're making him out to be, especially if he gets dragon slaying magic. Igneel's fought Acno on 2 occasions and lost to him in both, the first time Acno came out unscathed and the second time Acno wasnt going all out. I agree he's stronger than Irene but he's not nearly as strong as you're making him out to be. Also if you're counting the anime as canon, we clearly saw that fire dragon slaying magic affects fire dragons in that one scene where Natsu in the alternate GMG future is dropping fire dragons left and right. How do you expect Natsu to beat Ignia if he can't even use his magic?

How does Merc being at 50% have anything to do with Igneel? Igneel's not a dragon god and never was as strong as one until shown otherwise. I agree that current Natsu is stronger than August, but Natsu in the beginning of 100YQ definitely wasn't. He hadn't gained Ignia's flames yet and didn't fight Merc or Aldo, and we know any time a dragon slayer beats a dragon they get stronger, especially if it's a powerful dragon. So what does beginning of 100YQ Natsu have on August (im talking before any power ups)?

FH only gave Zeref more hax, it didn't increase his power/physical strength. Natsu just had to burn FH away for it to stop working, August would do the same if he had his DS magic. This is not a Natsu specific ability, it's a fire DS magic specific ability.

Dragon force is literally a part of fire dragon slaying magic, why wouldn't August be able to have it? By your logic, no dragon slayer would be able to use dragon force. The reason why dragons don't have it is because they're already dragons. Dragon force transforms the user into a dragon after many uses, for dragon eaters it's the first use followed by dragonization, and for dragons they're technically always in dragon force except when they're in human form. Again, Igneel has shown nothing to prove that he is on dragon god level. He lost to Acno 400 years ago (couldn't even leave any scars), then lost to him 400 years later (only managed to take an arm, AND this is an Acno who wasn't going all out). He's called the fire dragon king for a reason, he's not on the level of the fire dragon god or any dragon god.

 

[Ramen]

excuses and cap a fraction of ingeel's power from natsu could of killed zeref a full power ingeel is trashing FH zeref. base natsu was tanking FH zeref attacks. a 50% ingeel was able to tangle with acno.

Most of this is just phsycials and doesn't prove anyything and no, Natsu wasn't tanking FH Zeref's attacks lmao. He legit killed him

 

[Seven777]

Exactly how strong do you think Igneel is? August is massively stronger than Brandish who's country level, and his suicide attack can destroy something the size of the USA (large country - small continent). Sure that won't help him against Igneel but my point is he's not fodder to dragons like you're making him out to be, especially if he gets dragon slaying magic. Igneel's fought Acno on 2 occasions and lost to him in both, the first time Acno came out unscathed and the second time Acno wasnt going all out. I agree he's stronger than Irene but he's not nearly as strong as you're making him out to be. Also if you're counting the anime as canon, we clearly saw that fire dragon slaying magic affects fire dragons in that one scene where Natsu in the alternate GMG future is dropping fire dragons left and right. How do you expect Natsu to beat Ignia if he can't even use his magic?

How does Merc being at 50% have anything to do with Igneel? Igneel's not a dragon god and never was as strong as one until shown otherwise. I agree that current Natsu is stronger than August, but Natsu in the beginning of 100YQ definitely wasn't. He hadn't gained Ignia's flames yet and didn't fight Merc or Aldo, and we know any time a dragon slayer beats a dragon they get stronger, especially if it's a powerful dragon. So what does beginning of 100YQ Natsu have on August (im talking before any power ups)?

FH only gave Zeref more hax, it didn't increase his power/physical strength. Natsu just had to burn FH away for it to stop working, August would do the same if he had his DS magic. This is not a Natsu specific ability, it's a fire DS magic specific ability.

Dragon force is literally a part of fire dragon slaying magic, why wouldn't August be able to have it? By your logic, no dragon slayer would be able to use dragon force. The reason why dragons don't have it is because they're already dragons. Dragon force transforms the user into a dragon after many uses, for dragon eaters it's the first use followed by dragonization, and for dragons they're technically always in dragon force except when they're in human form. Again, Igneel has shown nothing to prove that he is on dragon god level. He lost to Acno 400 years ago (couldn't even leave any scars), then lost to him 400 years later (only managed to take an arm, AND this is an Acno who wasn't going all out). He's called the fire dragon king for a reason, he's not on the level of the fire dragon god or any dragon god.

Strong enough to defeat every spriggan combined, and Zeref too. And yes, August is fodder.
Half Dead Igneel ripped off Acno's arm, he's Acno tier any way you slice it.

As for how I expect Natsu to win against Ignia? Lots of ways, he'll prob end up being God Dragon tier himself by the end of the story, that's what Mashima seems to be hyping with the "destroyer of worlds" bullshit. He could also go 7 DS mode again, or even just get Wendy and Gajeel, on top of eating Ignia's power, that's prob enough. Then there's Savage Flames, that would do the job. Then there's his new combo, Atlas Flame+Igneel+Ignia+more Ignia when he eats his fire.

End of Alvarez Natsu was already stronger than August. Erasing Zeref is a better feat than August has, and beating FH Zeref is significantly better.
Simple, because it's not an ability Igneel has. If you want to say August dragonizes, sure, but for a non-dragon eater that takes time, weeks, months, maybe even years. EIleen who was at constant war took a long time. As for Igneel showing he's dragon god tier, ripping off Acno's arm is a pretty clear showing.

 

[Ramen]

Exactly how strong do you think Igneel is? August is massively stronger than Brandish who's country level, and his suicide attack can destroy something the size of the USA (large country - small continent). Sure that won't help him against Igneel but my point is he's not fodder to dragons like you're making him out to be, especially if he gets dragon slaying magic. Igneel's fought Acno on 2 occasions and lost to him in both, the first time Acno came out unscathed and the second time Acno wasnt going all out. I agree he's stronger than Irene but he's not nearly as strong as you're making him out to be. Also if you're counting the anime as canon, we clearly saw that fire dragon slaying magic affects fire dragons in that one scene where Natsu in the alternate GMG future is dropping fire dragons left and right. How do you expect Natsu to beat Ignia if he can't even use his magic?

How does Merc being at 50% have anything to do with Igneel? Igneel's not a dragon god and never was as strong as one until shown otherwise. I agree that current Natsu is stronger than August, but Natsu in the beginning of 100YQ definitely wasn't. He hadn't gained Ignia's flames yet and didn't fight Merc or Aldo, and we know any time a dragon slayer beats a dragon they get stronger, especially if it's a powerful dragon. So what does beginning of 100YQ Natsu have on August (im talking before any power ups)?

FH only gave Zeref more hax, it didn't increase his power/physical strength. Natsu just had to burn FH away for it to stop working, August would do the same if he had his DS magic. This is not a Natsu specific ability, it's a fire DS magic specific ability.

Dragon force is literally a part of fire dragon slaying magic, why wouldn't August be able to have it? By your logic, no dragon slayer would be able to use dragon force. The reason why dragons don't have it is because they're already dragons. Dragon force transforms the user into a dragon after many uses, for dragon eaters it's the first use followed by dragonization, and for dragons they're technically always in dragon force except when they're in human form. Again, Igneel has shown nothing to prove that he is on dragon god level. He lost to Acno 400 years ago (couldn't even leave any scars), then lost to him 400 years later (only managed to take an arm, AND this is an Acno who wasn't going all out). He's called the fire dragon king for a reason, he's not on the level of the fire dragon god or any dragon god.

So what if August scales above Brandish? You're scaling doesn't help here.


Hehe ripping off Acno's arm isn't DG level? Yikes, you lowball terribly.

 

[GL_Nova]

He burned the Fairy Heart but can't burn underwater. It's not a retcon but just garbage writing.

How do you suggest he starts a fire underwater?

 

[Dimitri1220]

Strong enough to defeat every spriggan combined, and Zeref too. And yes, August is fodder.
Half Dead Igneel ripped off Acno's arm, he's Acno tier any way you slice it.

As for how I expect Natsu to win against Ignia? Lots of ways, he'll prob end up being God Dragon tier himself by the end of the story, that's what Mashima seems to be hyping with the "destroyer of worlds" bullshit. He could also go 7 DS mode again, or even just get Wendy and Gajeel, on top of eating Ignia's power, that's prob enough. Then there's Savage Flames, that would do the job. Then there's his new combo, Atlas Flame+Igneel+Ignia+more Ignia when he eats his fire.

End of Alvarez Natsu was already stronger than August. Erasing Zeref is a better feat than August has, and beating FH Zeref is significantly better.
Simple, because it's not an ability Igneel has. If you want to say August dragonizes, sure, but for a non-dragon eater that takes time, weeks, months, maybe even years. EIleen who was at constant war took a long time. As for Igneel showing he's dragon god tier, ripping off Acno's arm is a pretty clear showing.

Yea, um, Igneel is strong, but saying that he can beat August, Irene, and Zeref combined? I get 1v1, but that's too much lol. Zeref's death magic can kill a dragon god, so Igneel's getting one shot if he gets hit by it. He'd have to continously burn Zeref's magic which August can counter by eating Igneel's fire.

If by Acno tier you mean can fight him for a little bit then yes. But if you mean can give him a hard fight, then that's easily wrong. We know what happened in Tartaros only happened because Acno wasnt going all out. Plus, don't forget that a weaker version of Acno killed a stronger version of Igneel 400 years ago and had 0 scars, so anything that happened later on (like their fight in Tartaros) is just a result of Acno prolonging the fight because he hasn't had a real fight for 400 years. In terms of physicals I do agree that Acno and Igneel are similar in strength, which is why I think August would get one shot if Igneel slaps him or whatever.

I think we can all agree that Natsu will be dragon god tier by the time he fights Ignia, but my main question is do you think Natsu's fire magic would work on him? You said in your other reply that Igneel is immune to fire so fire DS magic won't work on him, so im assuming the same would apply to Ignia. In that case you're saying that it would be a pure fistfight with no magic which sounds like the lamest fight ever. I don't know why you brought up Savage fire or his purgatory fire since you said Ignia should be immune to fire. The only way Natsu could win by your logic is by eating Ignia's fire to power up and then just use physicals, or eat other dragon slayers magic because fire won't hurt Ignia.

Erasing Zeref? You mean when Zeref just stood still? August could do the same with his fire nuke. Of course that doesn't do much because Zeref's immortal. Vaporizing Zeref, while it is a good feat, doesn't make Natsu stronger than August. Zeref's op because of his hax, not because of his physical strength. The reason why Natsu could beat Zeref in the first place is because Zered literally made him the perfect counter to him. He gave him resistance to time stop, had Igneel teach him a magic that burns other magic, and even gave him a scarf that negates his death magic. So Natsu having specific counters to Zeref doesn't mean he can beat anyone Zeref can beat, it means he had a favorable match-up, like the 99% of the fights in Alvarez arc. Also he literally died to Zeref lol, he had to be revived to stand a chance. If August copied Natsu's magic, he would also be able to burn Zeref's death magic.

If dragon force is not an ability that Igneel has, or in fact any dragon has, then dragon force would not even be a thing. I've already explained in my other post why August would have dragon force, which you clearly ignored lol.

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So what if August scales above Brandish? You're scaling doesn't help here.


Hehe ripping off Acno's arm isn't DG level? Yikes, you lowball terribly.

I lowball terribly? But somehow saying August with dragon force, Igneel's fire, and flames of emotions can't even scratch Igneel isn't a terrible lowball? Seems like you guys didn't read Merc's fight.

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Also I just realized you said Igneel could no diff every Spriggan + Zeref combined. That means Igneel would have no trouble beating Giant August or Giant God Serena (thanks to Brandish) using dragon slaying magic and powering up any time Igneel uses fire. Yea, even Aldo was having trouble against a tired Gajeel who wasn't even using magic half the time and couldn't eat Aldo's magic. Somehow that's not lowball.

 

[Vex_Haid]

The amount of pages this has..... Holy anyways spriggans are way to OP for DE unless suzaku actually did injure selene

 

[Ramen]

I lowball terribly? But somehow saying August with dragon force, Igneel's fire, and flames of emotions can't even scratch Igneel isn't a terrible lowball? Seems like you guys didn't read Merc's fight.

Good thing he doesn't have that. This is where you belong:

https://www.fanfiction.net/

Yea, Romeo with August's hax and Irene's enchantments and Acno's magic resistance could be a powerhouse too but does he have that?

Also I just realized you said Igneel could no diff every Spriggan + Zeref combined. That means Igneel would have no trouble beating Giant August or Giant God Serena (thanks to Brandish) using dragon slaying magic and powering up any time Igneel uses fire. Yea, even Aldo was having trouble against a tired Gajeel who wasn't even using magic half the time and couldn't eat Aldo's magic. Somehow that's not lowball.

But Aldoron didn't have any trouble lmao. He killed him easy in 3 minutes and GG was saved by the bell.

And yep, I did say that. Now either prove me wrong if you can. Oh wait nevermind, I remember August has Ultra Instinct, all of Toriko's powers, and is literally god himself.

How do you suggest he starts a fire underwater?

It's water. You think he can't beat Juvia?

 

[Dimitri1220]

Good thing he doesn't have that. This is where you belong:

https://www.fanfiction.net/

Yea, Romeo with August's hax and Irene's enchantments and Acno's magic resistance could be a powerhouse too but does he have that?



But Aldoron didn't have any trouble lmao. He killed him easy in 3 minutes and GG was saved by the bell.

And yep, I did say that. Now either prove me wrong if you can. Oh wait nevermind, I remember August has Ultra Instinct, all of Toriko's powers, and is literally god himself.



It's water. You think he can't beat Juvia?

You make 0 sense. The second Igneel uses magic, August would have copied and mastered it. Don't know why you bring up Romeo all the time lmao. If anything you're the one making the fanfiction.

So you're gonna ignore the part where chunks of Aldo were falling out every time Gajeel landed a hit? Or how after Aldo beat GG he was resting with his eyes closed? Yes he won, but he didn't escape unscathed. I'm telling you, you don't know what no diff means.

More like you need to prove that Igneel can beat a giant God Serena/August (both of whom are stronger than any version of Gajeel) who have the dragon slaying advantage and can eat all of Igneel's magic. Or you can prove how Igneel kills Zeref who's immortal and can one shot him. You're the one living the fanfiction here.

And for the Juvia part, Natsu could, you know, swim out of Juvia's water. He isn't restricted to just using his magic you know?

 

[Ramen]

And for the Juvia part, Natsu could, you know, swim out of Juvia's water. He isn't restricted to just using his magic you know?

Was I talking to you here?

You make 0 sense. The second Igneel uses magic, August would have copied and mastered it. Don't know why you bring up Romeo all the time lmao. If anything you're the one making the fanfiction.

Please show me where August has DF, and flames of emotion and Igneel's flames.

I bring up Romeo to show your logic. See how dumb it is?

So you're gonna ignore the part where chunks of Aldo were falling out every time Gajeel landed a hit? Or how after Aldo beat GG he was resting with his eyes closed? Yes he won, but he didn't escape unscathed. I'm telling you, you don't know what no diff means.

Do you know what tanking an attack is? You keep accusing me of not knowing anything yet here you are, pulling things outta your bum cheeks

More like you need to prove that Igneel can beat a giant God Serena/August (both of whom are stronger than any version of Gajeel) who have the dragon slaying advantage and can eat all of Igneel's magic. Or you can prove how Igneel kills Zeref who's immortal and can one shot him. You're the one living the fanfiction here.

Show me a giant GS and August and I'll prove it. Otherwise, I'll stick to the manga.

I never said he kills him. I recommend actually reading it. Acno can't kill Zeref yet he could no diff him.


You think August > any character not named Acno because of his hax? That's a no limits fallacy lol

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August > Ignia because he has Igneel's flame, Flames of Emotion and DF apparently.

 

[Seven777]

Yea, um, Igneel is strong, but saying that he can beat August, Irene, and Zeref combined? I get 1v1, but that's too much lol. Zeref's death magic can kill a dragon god, so Igneel's getting one shot if he gets hit by it. He'd have to continously burn Zeref's magic which August can counter by eating Igneel's fire.

If by Acno tier you mean can fight him for a little bit then yes. But if you mean can give him a hard fight, then that's easily wrong. We know what happened in Tartaros only happened because Acno wasnt going all out. Plus, don't forget that a weaker version of Acno killed a stronger version of Igneel 400 years ago and had 0 scars, so anything that happened later on (like their fight in Tartaros) is just a result of Acno prolonging the fight because he hasn't had a real fight for 400 years. In terms of physicals I do agree that Acno and Igneel are similar in strength, which is why I think August would get one shot if Igneel slaps him or whatever.

I think we can all agree that Natsu will be dragon god tier by the time he fights Ignia, but my main question is do you think Natsu's fire magic would work on him? You said in your other reply that Igneel is immune to fire so fire DS magic won't work on him, so im assuming the same would apply to Ignia. In that case you're saying that it would be a pure fistfight with no magic which sounds like the lamest fight ever. I don't know why you brought up Savage fire or his purgatory fire since you said Ignia should be immune to fire. The only way Natsu could win by your logic is by eating Ignia's fire to power up and then just use physicals, or eat other dragon slayers magic because fire won't hurt Ignia.

Erasing Zeref? You mean when Zeref just stood still? August could do the same with his fire nuke. Of course that doesn't do much because Zeref's immortal. Vaporizing Zeref, while it is a good feat, doesn't make Natsu stronger than August. Zeref's op because of his hax, not because of his physical strength. The reason why Natsu could beat Zeref in the first place is because Zered literally made him the perfect counter to him. He gave him resistance to time stop, had Igneel teach him a magic that burns other magic, and even gave him a scarf that negates his death magic. So Natsu having specific counters to Zeref doesn't mean he can beat anyone Zeref can beat, it means he had a favorable match-up, like the 99% of the fights in Alvarez arc. Also he literally died to Zeref lol, he had to be revived to stand a chance. If August copied Natsu's magic, he would also be able to burn Zeref's death magic.

If dragon force is not an ability that Igneel has, or in fact any dragon has, then dragon force would not even be a thing. I've already explained in my other post why August would have dragon force, which you clearly ignored lol.

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I lowball terribly? But somehow saying August with dragon force, Igneel's fire, and flames of emotions can't even scratch Igneel isn't a terrible lowball? Seems like you guys didn't read Merc's fight.

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Also I just realized you said Igneel could no diff every Spriggan + Zeref combined. That means Igneel would have no trouble beating Giant August or Giant God Serena (thanks to Brandish) using dragon slaying magic and powering up any time Igneel uses fire. Yea, even Aldo was having trouble against a tired Gajeel who wasn't even using magic half the time and couldn't eat Aldo's magic. Somehow that's not lowball.

It's really not. Zeref would need to get FH for the lot of them to even be a threat to Igneel. Without it Igneel soloes all spriggans and Zeref.
No, Zeref's curse of contradiction can kill a dragon god, and even then Aldaron was tanking it. Besides, in order to use it against Igneel he'd have to nerf himself to fodder. as in weaker than Ultear, aka oneshottable by Igneel. It's not a threat, Igneel would accidentally K.O Zeref just by roaring.

No, Igneel is Acno tier in every sense of the word. Acnologia, with immunity to Igneel's magic, still could not manage to defeat Igneel without losing an arm. You realize what that means right? An Acno tier fighter, who has the exact same advantage over Igneel that you are claiming August has, still only beat Igneel extreme diff, after getting temporarily knocked out and also losing an arm. August has absolutely no chance against Igneel, it's not even close, it's not even a challenge. It's like base Natsu pointlessly punching Aldaron, August isn't even worth Igneel's notice. Igneel just ignores August til he dies of old age. He doesn't need to use his Fire DS magic on him, he doesn't need to use his claws or teeth on him, he could literally just wait until August gets tired and gives up, and that's probably what he would do too, because Igneel is a nice guy. Igneel literally beats August with kindness lmao.

-Acno not having scars proves nothing lol. How many fights end with the opponent having scars? How many losses? Does Kagura have a scar after Erza?
-Logically they'll just keep eating each other's magic.
-Natsu didn't have any favorable matchups in Alvarez lol, Natsu doesn't have an advantage over anyone who isn't a fire magic.
-Your explanation was simply faulty.