Games Mafia Game 95 - Saint Seiya: Era of the Zodiac - End Game

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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time



Aries
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

Taurus
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

Gemini
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

Cancer
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."



Leo
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

Virgo
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

Libra
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

Scorpio
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."



Sagittarius
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

Capricorn
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

Aquarius
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

Pisces
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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Night Actions

Spoiler: Nighto Actions

Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it . I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time

Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing!
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[Hardy]

Was Juviii's post so damning that you would submit a vote despite not having backread/being settled enough to install your avi?

Aw man

 

[Maryxxi]

OK, short update of my notes. The non hinters gets slimmer.

Player	Day 1
EvilEye	#020 I have a night role, that I never had before
Equaling Heaven	#023 Also, got a night role too
Avietar	#041 For my role, it's an active night role!
James Rye	#044 My role is cool, befitting of a manly man such as I.^^ It is a night role.
MarmaladeSky	#055 That said, I have had my role before though, not mad about it #316 Active role btw
Shad	#062 I'm an active, and this is my hint for prosperity. Context: Mac vs PC ads Role hint: I'm a PC
Scary Noona	#063 active role had it before and it's nice
Desin24	#066 Got an active role.
Gajeel	#093 I have a passive role.
GrySun	#140 I have an active role #237 not jesus #352 To add, my role was in the recent BnHA game.
Maryxxi	#145 the only hint i m giving about my role now is that it s an night one #157 and me maryxxi active night role confirmed
DigitalDude	#175 I have active role
Hardy	#317 My role is boring as shit and it's used too much in my opinion.
Margi	#351 I never had it before And it's a night role.
Asako
Brandish	(actively denied answering on D1)
SirSamuel016
Juviii
Demonspeed	(didnot answer while being asked)
Tatsumaki
Erinyes	(didnot answer while being asked)

i think u missed sirsam's hint : active role #354

 

[Evil3ye]

You missed me my guy:

Was posting/reworking while you posted, as you could see. And as you can now also see your assessment of "very few actives" is not very accurate either.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Was posting/reworking while you posted, as you could see. And as you can now also see your assessment of "very few actives" is not very accurate either.

?????????????

Fair few

I said "fair few", not "very few" as you can see. Not sure if that got lost in translation for you or what

 

[Equaling Heaven]

Sam already lying man, all we got are active roles for now with one(?) passive claim. This guy have no shame.

 

[Evil3ye]

Ahh, OK, sorry. Am finishing work in an hour, will have more attention to properly read after

 

[Copy Panda]

@Farfalla @Copy Panda I'm still not understanding one thing.

When does the effect of a sign go into play? Some examples:

1. A player is lynched today, he says X dies. Does X die with him at end of day or during night, and we get the result during night or at start of D2?
2. Say D2 just started. When do the currently, let's say, 3 players vote on the sign? Do they vote for the sign of the day(D2) or for the next night's sign(N2)?
3. Does the lynched player during N1 choose the sign of N1, or also the sign of D2?

0. While that Sign rules the sky. If it's a passive effect, it happens at the start of the phase (e.g. introduction of hot potato, or lovers). If DC have to vote, at the end of the phase, when everyone has voted.

1. The lynched player becomes the DC for N1, when Aries rules the Sky (), and votes at that time. The effect plays out at the end of the Sign, so their target dies at the end of N1, at the same time a normal night kill takes place

2. During N1, the incumbent vote for the D2 sign. On D2, the incumbents for the N2 sign. If the chosen D2 Sign has any effects that require the DC to vote, they do that as well, and the effect happens at the end of the phase.

3. D1 (now) has no sign, N1's sign is automatically chosen (Aries), so the lynched party chooses the D2 effect. Everyone who joins them after N1 votes for the N2 effect on D2, etc.

 

[Hardy]

I didn't want to look like I'm trying too hard to incriminate Hardy

Why? Go for it.

Incriminate is a funny word. It means you don't think I'm guilty but you are trying to make me look like it?

 

[SirSamuel016]

Sam already lying man, all we got are active roles for now with one(?) passive claim. This guy have no shame.

????????????

What do you mean lmao, surely you can read posts my guy and see I said "fair few".

Ahh, OK, sorry. Am finishing work in an hour, will have more attention to properly read after

All good, it's my Australian lingo

For reference, I'll give you a small Sir's Australian Lesson on the term:

 

[Asako]

Well i can say that my reaction when i first saw my role was "meh"

 

[Gajeel]

Well i can say that my reaction when i saw my role was "meh"

but is it passive or active?

 

[Brandish μ]

(actively denied answering on D1)

 

[GrySun]

Gry why are you saying it sounds fake but then you make a case using it as her being truthful?

I believe she messed up and so made followup conclusions. What's fake isn't that but the way she described both the vote and the mistake when she noticed it.

 

[Evil3ye]

Well i can say that my reaction when i first saw my role was "meh"

Sorry, but that's so bad. Just last game we had the same ideological discussion on whether Banshee can be categorized as "not that great" with two very defendable positions for either.

Give more. Active/passive?

 

[GrySun]

0. While that Sign rules the sky. If it's a passive effect, it happens at the start of the phase (e.g. introduction of hot potato, or lovers). If DC have to vote, at the end of the phase, when everyone has voted.

1. The lynched player becomes the DC for N1, when Aries rules the Sky (), and votes at that time. The effect plays out at the end of the Sign, so their target dies at the end of N1, at the same time a normal night kill takes place

2. During N1, the incumbent vote for the D2 sign. On D2, the incumbents for the N2 sign. If the chosen D2 Sign has any effects that require the DC to vote, they do that as well, and the effect happens at the end of the phase.

3. D1 (now) has no sign, N1's sign is automatically chosen (Aries), so the lynched party chooses the D2 effect. Everyone who joins them after N1 votes for the N2 effect on D2, etc.

I see. That's a lot more complicated than I assumed at first.

 

[Hardy]

hold up, so as town, you're not supposed to worry about how you look like to other players? What game are we playing again? As town (mby even great role or not doesn't matter) you look sus, you die, town loses your contribution, your perspective, your vote, numbers shrink. That's one sus thing to say Gry.

Actually had a good discussion with this in the other forum. Normally you are a bit concerned (it's an emotional game after all) and projecting town vibes is important but at the end of the day you know your faction so being so self aware that you don't commit to your own arguments is pretty scummy.

A guy there said "I know I'm town so whoever doesn't agree is an idiot" but I certainly wouldn't go that far, lol.

 

[Asako]

Active, hmm i though it was an ok hint tho

 

[GrySun]

So my list was wrong, D1 isn't Aries it's N1. Ugh..

 

[Equaling Heaven]

As always my mosted hated foe (I kid) is inactive. For now I'm going with a votekill Tatsumaki

 

[MArGi]

So no list for me @Evil3ye ?

How many MG have you played @Shad ?