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๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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Well that clears evil case finally, why confuse everyone man James


Its different tho, two BG is like two roles that can't stop a kill just redirect it, prostitutes have more use so it's reasonable that there could be two at least way more than BG
Cause it keeps me safe obviously. Plus it helps to see who tries to get on my ass or try to switch from Hardy towards me.

My suspects for the remaining 5 Mafias are
Misclick but whatever.
Hardy for obvious and many told reasons by Evil.
Gaj for simply voting on me in a BOOM, let's go after James everyone, kinda way.
Juviii for being all over the place and stoking fires on anybody that gets mentioned by someone else as sus.
Maryxxi because Random told me so and it feels like she follows Juviii's example which would make sense for a Mafia newbie clinging to the tail of a more Veteran mafia player.
Demonspeed because Demon is never a wrong choice to look for Mafia Scum.

People I trust, so far for now:
Evil for claiming BG and being paranoid as usual when he is town
Gry 'cause he feels like his usual hunter self and less like a fire stoker like Juviii does.
And well that's it, those are pretty much the only two I feel as trustworthy by day 2.
 

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Cause it keeps me safe obviously. Plus it helps to see who tries to get on my ass or try to switch from Hardy towards me.



Misclick but whatever.
Hardy for obvious and many told reasons by Evil.
Gaj for simply voting on me in a BOOM, let's go after James everyone, kinda way.
Juviii for being all over the place and stoking fires on anybody that gets mentioned by someone else as sus.
Maryxxi because Random told me so and it feels like she follows Juviii's example which would make sense for a Mafia newbie clinging to the tail of a more Veteran mafia player.
Demonspeed because Demon is never a wrong choice to look for Mafia Scum.

People I trust, so far for now:
Evil for claiming BG and being paranoid as usual when he is town
Gry 'cause he feels like his usual hunter self and less like a fire stoker like Juviii does.
And well that's it, those are pretty much the only two I feel as trustworthy by day 2.
okay.....so you suspect the entire mafia team just decided to kill their own team mate? Look at hardy voters.
 

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Plus the fact that even claiming investigator is a big risk considering high chance of there being one if he really mafia, i doubt he could go with investigator when he also had two others roles that fit his hint, but instead he went with the higher risk one


Could be dumb for mafia to claim investigator when they don't know there even one, he had SM and Mortician as other options that are less likely being in the game yet he went with investigator

I trust hardy
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Cause it keeps me safe obviously. Plus it helps to see who tries to get on my ass or try to switch from Hardy towards me.
The heck bro, evil had more chance of dying because of that vaque shit than you considering he came first, if evil really BG could caused a mislynch for theory reason.....
 

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He could much easier pose as a townie by trying to save a player being set up(Shad with non vote) than the farfetched theory he went with. He intentionally went with the worse option if both are town, for no reason other than to maybe later implicate Hardy. So that would speak for him having a reason to do something so odd, ie. saving a teammate.

Overused he already explained as โ€žitโ€˜s too often in games that have Janitorโ€œ no? I agree games are rare where Janitorโ€˜s only issue is him dying. His counter role gets included either as a role or as a mechanic(like in Shokugeki).
Regardless he seemed to have a role in mind to claim D1, and doesnโ€˜t look to me like he changed his claim idea. But could be wrong.

True but keep in mind Spy revealed out of nowhere early, few couldโ€˜ve claimed anything before. Your BG was also after the spy came out no?

Code can work but again it feels so unlikely to hit the Investigator of all people + him even needing to take that role as his fake-cover when there are plenty options. Last game he had no difficulty making up plausible metal vessels and base role and EM so why have issues now?

Not trying to convince you, I could be wrong and him being scum. Just telling you my reluctance.
But his D1 hint could literally mean anything. Now imagine being an Investigator and leaving a hint on D1 that it's boring and overused lol
It works in pair with a different role, it cannot be constantly useful, I cannot use it all the time - all hints fitting the role, to which if he would have revealed this role it would make perfect sense and everyone being just - oh ok!

Instead he said what he said and further didn't acknowledge the opportunity to drop more hints as votes were pouring down on him, instead just kept replying we could have asked him. Sorry, but if this is how he plays a townie investigative role, he deserves his lynch nonetheless. That's all I'm saying.
 

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But his D1 hint could literally mean anything. Now imagine being an Investigator and leaving a hint on D1 that it's boring and overused lol
It works in pair with a different role, it cannot be constantly useful, I cannot use it all the time - all hints fitting the role, to which if he would have revealed this role it would make perfect sense and everyone being just - oh ok!

Instead he said what he said and further didn't acknowledge the opportunity to drop more hints as votes were pouring down on him, instead just kept replying we could have asked him. Sorry, but if this is how he plays a townie investigative role, he deserves his lynch nonetheless. That's all I'm saying.
Then why investigator evil, that role that a big risk to claim for a mafia
 

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Oh. Yes, only reasons. However strong your role is or baiting or whatever, is not worth us having no clues if you drop as ???. If not revealing at least some more clues that we could use to later assume role-list/find Janitor using your role as cover. But doing nothing about it just means one of those 2 things.
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I donโ€˜t think we were told the details but itโ€˜s very unlikely they do, since itโ€˜d skew things too much if certain roles die with results or such. And considering it isnโ€˜t majority vote they donโ€˜t need a pad either. So just a decision.
I never said I am against hints. I said I am against revealing and so far only Evil, Hardy(to defend his case) and Avie claimed a role unless I missed something.
 

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Iโ€˜ll await vote update and last hour(in case of anon vote) to decide where Iโ€˜m voting. Either Hardy or someone other than him.
 

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I think I lost a few braincells too many last night lol.

Anyway, I am not too sure about Hardy being mafia either, feel the role/hints fit. Just get alright vibes I guess
 

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I never said I am against hints. I said I am against revealing and so far only Evil, Hardy(to defend his case) and Avie claimed a role unless I missed something.
Then another hint other than you being active? Like which game it was in or other peculiarities?
 

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Cause it keeps me safe obviously. Plus it helps to see who tries to get on my ass or try to switch from Hardy towards me.



Misclick but whatever.
Hardy for obvious and many told reasons by Evil.
Which ones
 

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Could be dumb for mafia to claim investigator when they don't know there even one, he had SM and Mortician as other options that are less likely being in the game yet he went with investigator

I trust hardy
unless the janitored boy is investigator.
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btw both hardy and evil play style remind me somehow last game and both were scums :arf
 

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now this is a crazy one, but.....what if EH was the investigator.
Then i have to say, EH have really shit luck if he was :/
First being killed day 1 while he was BG confusing everyone if he protected someone last games and now this
 

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But his D1 hint could literally mean anything. Now imagine being an Investigator and leaving a hint on D1 that it's boring and overused lol
It works in pair with a different role, it cannot be constantly useful, I cannot use it all the time - all hints fitting the role, to which if he would have revealed this role it would make perfect sense and everyone being just - oh ok!

Instead he said what he said and further didn't acknowledge the opportunity to drop more hints as votes were pouring down on him, instead just kept replying we could have asked him. Sorry, but if this is how he plays a townie investigative role, he deserves his lynch nonetheless. That's all I'm saying.
You know I'm truthful but you keep double and tripleing down. Like the moment I reveed investigator you should had thought "oh right we surely have this role and need it" and instead you insisted on your quest to get me lynched.

Like, people don't see this?
 

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now this is a crazy one, but.....what if EH was the investigator.
That's what evil said, but then why wouldn't I just claim asap like Evil did?
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Erin I'm kinda shocked you are tunneling like this on me
 

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Don't know if Hardy is the right way to go for a lynch, and I agree with Gry's sentiment that we shouldn't get tunnel vision for lynching him when we've also got others we should pressure.

Shame that @Brandish ฮผ and @Erinyes haven't dropped a hint today; Brando especially without a hint the whole game but that is typically him for better or for worse.

Not sure what to make of the two bodyguards, given a large majority have claimed active it could make sense (ano pandagame) to give town some more protection but the player count mightn't justify it? ๐Ÿค”

I've already dropped a couple of hints about my role etc., but I will say I haven't had this role before.



Banger game tbh
You.re just repeating what i.ve said lol. How bout bringing smth usefull to the table instead.
Currently doing another backread to better gather my thoughts but I'm a bit suspicious of those who have been quieter for starters. Aside from that general notion, Maryxxi, Noona, DD, Juviii are probably my most suspect at this point in time. Will continue backreading and then re-evaluate this, expand on it etc.
Lmao, i.m one of your top sus list ? Ahahahahahahahahaahahaahhaahaha! And can you please explain why? :))))) you.ve brought nothing to the table so far, have been useless, randomly voted me d1, no useful hints on your role either and now you.re saying i.m sus? Where all i.ve been doing was drop hints, ask questions, try to make sense of things, give my "conspiracy" thoughts, etc :))) do tell me more about how i am sus :)))). Ot is it precisely the fact that i.ve been attacking some ppl questioning them etc, what makes you scared of my presence? Did I get thigs right, scared for your mates?

To think i went for dd instead of you, should have listened to my gut and vote you. Not too late tho, just keep stepping on my tail and i.ll votelock you. Or is this your way of trying to get me to waste my vote like others have before?

Yea I agree, go backread the thread 20 times again, mby you.ll get a brain cell.
 

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I think I lost a few braincells too many last night lol.
I also relate after a day of drinking yesterday :feelsgoodman
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You.re just repeating what i.ve said lol. How bout bringing smth usefull to the table instead.
You've got an issue I agree with you? :cookiearf
 
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