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๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

๐ŸŒ 

โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

๐ŸŒ 

โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

๐ŸŒ 

โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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Also you should tell us your whole list @MarmaladeSky , even if it is fake 5 names are 5 names and we might see some overlaps with @Erinyes list who has named 3 of her 5er list so far.
 

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2 naive traitors? What the fuck... something doesn't add up here.

@Scary Noona Check the last 10 games before you say I try making 2 spies seem sus. In 8 out of 10 there was only 2 spies in it: Game 85 and 87, otherwise only one spy since that is more the norm. If I were to go back 20 or 30 games, we would max get like 3-4 games with 2 spies in it, rest all 1 spy normally since a sane spy is a very powerful tool in the hands of town.

You know what I gonna take my time (taking down all the @ to not mass ping everyone) and list the roles so you can see for yourself that I am not trying to make 2 spies seems sus but that it is a normal reaction to distrust 2 spies claims in one game:

Brandish ฮผ as Eren (Bodyguard) (Super Mason)
Farfalla as Armin (Mafia Mason)
Seraph as Mikasa (Freeman)
scav as Connie (Noble) (Super Mason)
GrySun as Sasha (Bomb Defuser)
Raven as Jean (Mafia Robber) (Lover)
Asako as Floch (Kamikaze Bomb) (Explode Night 4)
James Rye as Levy (Sane Spy)
Holt as Hange (Time Bomb) (Explode Night 4)
Shad as Shadis (Mafia Detective)
Belserion as Annie (Pirate)
sakura-aneki as Reiner (Prostitute) (Traitor)
Vandred as Pieck (Naive Detective) (Super Mason)
Takuan as Porco (Sane Detective)
Demonspeed as Zeke (Death Miller)
digitaldude as Magath (Mafia Bomb Defuser)
MarmaladeSky as Udo (Insane Spy)
Lambu as Zofia (Mafia Politician)
Evil3ye as Gabi (Serial Killer) (Lover)
Copy Panda as Falco (Jesus)
desin24 as Colt (Sane Detective)
goodboy_lawlett as Ms. Tybur (Mafia Bomb)
gnut as Willy (Mason Recruiter)
BlackTiger as Yelena (Sane Doctor)
Lady pompom as Onyankopon (Spirit Medium)

Demonspeed - Ajani (Necromancer) killed on N4
digitaldude - Ashiok (Townie) lynched on D3
Erinyes - Chandra (Detective-Insane) (Traitor-Naive) lynched D2
Gajeel - Elsbeth (Bulletproof Townie) (Lover) previously (Threesome Candidate) won D8
gnut - Garruk (Mafia Escort) lynched D8
Goodboy - Gideon (Bodyguard) lynched D1
GrySun - Jace (Prostitute) killed N3
Hardy - Karn (Investigator) killed N1
Holt - Kaya (Mafia Strongman) previously (Mafia Apprentice) ynched D6
Lambu - Kiora (Mafia Noble) (Lover) won D8
MarmaladeSky - Liliana (Innocent child) (Lover) won D8
Moegara - Nahiri (Jesus) killed N7
Organizized - Nissa (Spirit Medium) killed N5
sakura-aneki - Ral (Spy) (Hot Potato) killed D5
Shad - Sarkhan (Doctor-Sane) killed N6
SirSamuel016 - Sorin (Townie) lynched D4
SonOfDaws - Tamiyo (Banshee) lost D8
Takuan - Teferi (Mafia Boss) lynched D7
xnut - Vraska (Mafia Poisoner) lynched D5

1. Jacuzzi / Organizized (Bodyguard) (Traitor)
2. Luck / Evil3ye (Spy) Died Night 1
3. Maiza / Copy Panda (Pirate) Died Night 1
4. Isaac / Shad (Super Mason Bomb Defuser) Died Night 4
5. Dallas / Goodboy (Detective) Died Night 2
6. Miria / SirSamuel016 (Badass Cowboy) Lost a Duel Day 1
7. Nicholas / sakura-aneki (Burden) Hostkilled Day 6
8. Nice / Farfalla (Spy)
9. Ennis / Hardy (Mafia Apprentice) Lynched Day 3
10. Keith / digitaldude (Bulletproof)
11. Firo / Demonspeed (Doctor) Died Night 3
12. Graham / GrySun (Necromancer) Died Night 6
13. Chane / Vandred (Mafia Escort) Lynched Day 6
14. Gustav / Lambu (Townie) Died Night 4
15. Szilard / desin24 (Prostitute) Lynched Day 4
16. Berga / xnut (Prostitute) (Lover) Died Night 5
17. Huey / Holt (Santa Claus) (Lover) Lynched Day 2
18. Ladd / Gajeel (Mafia Detective) Lynched Day 5
19. Eve / Belserion (Noble) (Threesome Candidate) Died Night 6
20. Czeslaw / Hll (Mason)
21. Elean / Seraph (Mentor) Lynched Day 1
22. Lua / Crescent Jinx (Mortician) (Super Mason) Hostkilled Day 2
23. Bartolo / gnut (Apprentice)
24. Goose / pudgiePenguin (Mason Recruiter) Died Night 1
25. Rachel / Raven (Mason)

desin24 & SonOfDaws as Duskull and Electivire (Hider) lynched on Day 1
Evil3ye & Demonspeed as Wobbufett and Wynaut (Mentee) lynched on Day 3
Goodboy & Zasz as Marowak and Chansey (Spy) lynched on Day 2
Copy Panda & Farfalla as Xatu and Kangaskhan (Sleeper) (Naive Traitor) survived the journey!
Brandish & Erinyes as Grovyle and Dusknoir (Death Miller) survived the journey!
Asako & shinobi as Loudred and Diglett (Restless Spirit) died on Night 2
SirSamuel016 & Lambu as Croagunk and Dugtrio (Mentee) died on Day 4
James Rye & digitaldude as Chimecho and Sunflora (Mentor) lynched on Day 4
Seraph & Takuan as Corpish and Bidoof (Doctor) survived the journey!
Raven as Keckleon and Keckleon (Bomb) survived the journey!

GrySun as Hirohiko Araki (Paranoid-Detective/Traitor) recruited on Day 5 to (Mafia Member)[WINNER]
Gajeel as Tatsuki Fujimoto (Mafia Assassin) [WINNER]

Hll as Boichi (Death Miller) [LOST]
MarmaladeSky as Eichihiro Oda (Spirit Medium) [LOST]
digitaldude as Hideki Sorachi (Necromancer) [LOST]

Shad as Isayama Hajime (Townie) fired on Day 1.
Mazino as Takehiko Inoue (Mentor) fired on Day 4
Demonspeed as Yoshihiro Togashi (Insane-Apprentice) made into (Illusion) Night 2 and fired on Day 3 (DAY KILL)
Ustegius as Paru Itagaki (Sane-Detective) recruited on Night 2 to (Mentee) fired on Day 4 (DAY KILL)
SirSamuel016 as Kentaro Miura (Sane-Spy) fired on Day 2 (DAY KILL)
Brandish ฮผ as Akiko Higashimura (Santa) fired on Day 2
gnut as Akira Toriyama (Paranoid Gun Owner) fired on Day 5
Tatsumaki as ONE (Naive-Detective) fired on Day 4.
Asako as Ichikawa Haruko (Mortician) fired on Day 3 through (Hot Potato)
Erinyes as Kaoru Mori (Pirate) fired on Night 1.
Lady pompom as Akira Amano (Bodyguard) made into (Illusion) Night 1 and fired on Night 2.
Holt as Tite Kubo (Shapeshifter) fired on Day 3.

1. Demonspeed - Leo Whitefang (Mafia Apprentice) was lynched D3. WON
2. GrySun
- Chipp Zanuff (Spy) died N3.
3. Lady Pompom - Ky Kiske (Prosecutor) --N3-> (Mason).
4. MarmaladeSky - Anji Mito (Restless Spirit) --N4-> (Townie) died N6.
5. Asako - May (Pirate) --N4> (Restless Spirit) was lynched D6.
6. Digitaldude - Nagoriyuki (Innocent Child) was lynched D2.
7. Shad - Axl Low (Mafia Boss) prosecuted D2. WON
8. SirSamuel016
- Millia Rage (Detective) was lynched D1.
9. Juviii - I-No (Mafia Detective). WON
10. Erinyes
- Giovanna & Rei (Mason Recruiter) died N4.
11. Desin24 - Sol Badguy (Mafia Noble) was lynched D4. WON
12. Copy Panda
- Potemkin (Mortician) --N2-> (Mason) died N4.
13. Holt - Faust (Noble) (Super Mason) died N1.
14. Farfalla - Ramlethal (Doctor) died N2.
15. Vandred - Zato=1 & Eddie (Bodyguard) (Super Mason). --N4-> (Super Mason Bodyguard) was lynched D5.

Chef Gajeel as Satoshi Isshiki || Paranoid Detective || ๐Ÿ– || Lynched D1
Chef Equalling Heaven as Rindou Kobayashi || Bodyguard || ๐Ÿ† || Killed N1 || Role revealed D4 with Janitor death
Chef Takuan as Kojiro Shinomiya || Apprentice || ๐Ÿฅ›|| Lynched D2
Chef Lambu as Akira Hayama || Spy || ๐Ÿฅ› || Killed N2 || Role revealed D4 with Janitor death
Chef Holt as Takumi Aldini || Mafia Escort || ๐ŸŒถ || Lynched D3
Chef GrySun as Hisako Arato || Insane Apprentice || ๐ŸŒถ || Killed N3
Chef Gnut UberFayt as Momo Akanegakubo || Mafia Janitor || ๐Ÿ– || Lynched D4
Chef MarmaladeSky as Ikumi Mito || Detective || ๐Ÿ– || Killed N4
Chef James Rye as Megumi Tadoroko || Mafia Detective || ๐Ÿ– || Lynched D5
Chef Gryffindor as Alice Nakiri || Mafia Pirate || ๐Ÿ– || Lynched D6

Winning Chefs
Chef Desin24 as Soma Yukihira || Prostitute || ๐ŸŒถ
Chef Tatsumaki as Erina Nakiri || Death Miller | Sickly Townie || ๐Ÿ†
Chef DigitalDude as Ryo Kurokiba || Naive Doctor || ๐Ÿฅ›
Chef Farfalla as Eishi Tsukasa || Hider || ๐Ÿ–
Chef Ustegius as Asahi Saiba || Pirate || ๐Ÿ†
Chef goodboy_lawlett as Nene Kinokuni || Banshee || ๐Ÿฅ›
Chef Son of Daws as Terunori Kuga || Doctor ||

1. sakura-aneki - Sorcerer Mage (Necromancer) (Dodger) (Restless Spirit)
2. digitaldude - Bone Flingers (Noble) died N3
3. Demonspeed - Forest Keepers (Prostitute) (Restless Spirit) died N1
4. James Rye - Assassin's Guild (Daytime Vigilante) (Dodger) (Restless Spirit)
5. SonOfDaws - Barbarian Mead Hall (Doctor) (Dodger) (Restless Spirit) died N2
6. MarmaladeSky - Necromancer (Mafia Escort) (Restless Spirit) lynched D1
7. Tatsumaki - Big Bertha (Detective) (Restless Spirit)
8. Copy Panda - Tesla x104 (Mafia Robber) (Dodger) surrendered on D4
9. Goodboy - Holy Order (Mafia Bomb Defuser) (Sickly) shot D2
10. Evil3ye - Specters Mausoleum (Bomb) (Sickly) lynched D2
11. Gajeel - Elite Harassers (Mafia Member) (Restless Spirit) died N2
12. Lady pompom - Tribal Axethrowers (Mafia Detective) (Dodger) surrendered on D4
13. desin24 - DWAARP (Spy)
14. Farfalla - Wild Magus (Healthy Townie) (Restless Spirit) lynched D4
15. Holt - Rangers Hideout (Hider) (Dodger) lynched D2

๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿš’ ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿš’ Fire-Fighting Heroes ๐Ÿฆธโ€โ™‚๏ธ ๐Ÿฆธโ€โ™€๏ธ
8. SonOfDaws as Earphone Jack | Mafia Boss | WINNER
12. Maryxxi as Suneater | Prostitute | LOSER
13. Tatsumaki as Real Steel | Mafia Doctor | WINNER
20. Equaling Heaven as PhantomThief | Bulletproof | LOSER
22. Zirconium as Dynamight | Banshee, Super Mason | LOSER
23. Tsar Blyatinum as Lizardy | Mafia Escort | WINNER


๐Ÿš’ ๐Ÿš‘ Brave Souls who died in the Fire ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’€

16. sakura_aneki as Shoto | Mafia Boss | Lynched D1
1. GrySun as Lemillion | Mafia Detective | Killed N1
14. Juviii as Uravity | Townie | Killed N1

15. Holt as Ingenium | Detective, Traitor | Lynched D2
24. Evil3ye as Shinso | Doctor, Super Mason | Killed N2

14. Juviii as Uravity | Jesus | Respawned D3
11. Shad as Deku | Mafia Doctor | Lynched D3
6. JamesRye as Cellophane | Apprentice, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D3
9. Lady Pompom as Creati | Psychiatrist, Hot Potato | Exploded D3
2. Erinyes as Pinky | Mason Recruiter, Prosecutor | Killed N3

18. Asako Gryffindor as Froppy | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D4
17. Shobu_Yoruichi as Chargebolt | Mafia Detective, Prosecutor | Killed by Failed Prosecutor attempt D4
7. Lambu as Red Riot | Detective, Sickly | Killed N4
4. Crescent Jinx as Nejirechan | Spy, Super Mason | Killed N4

3. SirSamuel016 as Vantablack | Mafia Poisoner | Lynched D5
14. Juviii as Uravity | Jesus | Killed N5
5. Demonspeed Vandred as Tsukuyomi | Hider | Killed N5

10. desin24 as Shemage | Mafia Escort | Lynched D6
19. Avietar as Battlefist | Mortician | Killed N6

21. digitaldude as Invisible Girl | Bodyguard | Lynched D7

1. GrySun as Hakuryuu (Jesus Magician) <<< Died Night 6 <<< Revived Day 8
2. Scary Noona as Serendine (Mortician Magician) <<< Died Night 4
3. Lady pompom as Falan (Mafia Boss Magi) (Sickly) <<< Lynched Day 5
4. Evil3ye as Scheherazade (Mafia Robber) <<< Lynched Day 8
5. Crescent Jinx as Gyokuen (Detective Magician) <<< Died Night 5
6. Copy Panda as Aladdin (Townie Goi) <<< Died Night 1
7. Erinyes as Muu (Police Officer Magi) (Illusion) <<< Turned Illusion Night 3 <<< Shattered Night 5
8. MarmaladeSky as Morgiana (Doctor Magician) <<< Died Night 3
9. Equaling Heaven as Judar (Townie Goi) <<< Died Night 4
10. MArGi as Kouen (Townie Goi) <<< Lynched Day 7
11. Digitaldude as Sharrkan ( Mafia Goi ) <<< Killed Day 2
12. Desin24 as David (Noble Magician) <<< Died Night 3
13. James Rye as Ugo (Janitor Magician) <<< Lynched Day 2
14. Demonspeed as Kougyoku (Townie Goi) <<< Lynched Day 6
15. Farfalla as Yamraiha (Assassin Magician) <<< Lynched Day 3
16. Seraph as Jafar (Mafia Goi) <<< Lynched Day 9
17. Hardy as Kouha (Mafia Goi) <<< Died Night 5
18. Hermit as Yunan (Mafia Escort) <<< Killed Night 8
19. Brandish ฮผ as Sinbad Naive Traitor (Sleeper) <<< Turned Mafia Member Magician Day 1 <<< Died Night 5
20. Shobu_Yoruichi as Cassim (Mafia Detective Magician) <<< Lynched Day 4
21. Belserion as Koumei (Townie Goi)
22. Holt as Masrur (Townie Goi)
<<< Lynched Day 1
23. Haya-san as Hakuei (Doctor) <<< Died Night 6
24. Shinobi as Alibaba (Paranoid Spy) <<< Died Night 7

Like I said if you want me to, I could go even further but I think the past ten games alone tell a clear story that even in large games above 20 players 2 spies are unusual. Hope that makes you understand why I raised my eyebrow at two players claiming spy. Then again we got 2 Psychiatrists and 2 naive traitors claimers so I dunno what to think anymore.
please don't try to twist my words, I did not say "2 SANE spies" i said 2 spies are common. your list just confirms that
 

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@GrySun I know you agree with me that 2 spies ain't the norm for Mafia games since you played and hosted enough games to know that, but what do you think about those 2 spies in this game? Are they legit or does it feel like one of them lying?
 

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ok so i'm reading back a bit japanese style from page 67 to 66 :))

and I realized that I need to reveal today because it will play an important part in the lynch.

I am spy. I used my role last night it was either Hardy or Evil, depending on who'd stay alive. no point in me hiding my role anymore, though I would have wished to stay hidden a bit more to catch more ppl off guard. Evil helped me find my sanity. Evil ended up staying alive so I targeted him. all I can say is he died on duty protecting avietar last night. I didn't expect such a good result but considering that he's dead and avietar was one of the only revealers I'd say it cleared my sanity.

I am aware that me saying this could be interpreted as me being mafia and tryin to get the spy lynched, but consider this. It's a big game, there are definitely 2 spies in it and nobody else claimed. Analyse my hints and you'll see they match, the reason I was laughing when i saw my role was because it's the first role I had when I came back and played the first time last year (which I think was around august or september too so...pretty damn funny coincidence). Some more hidden hints are my interactions with avietar after she revealed, since D1 I forgot to send in my action, if you'll read back on my posts you'll see I was inquisitive with avietar and even asked about the result you'd get if the target did not perform any actions, because i was trying to determine if i was insane or not, but since the result is no result for both sane and insane I couldn't confirm sanity that way. So now, all there is to it is someone else to claim spy and for us to be put in the spotlight and see who is lying, if any mafo dares that is. The detective{s} can just investigate me, just hope they're not on the list. At least tonight I can't die even if i revealed and one of the listed can be protected by second doc...

Now idk if erin should die for being naive traitor, because her main role might be important, I don't think any of them should die tho, but from my pov in light of my reveal I think avietar is the safest route.
Do you remember if you reacted in any way when seeing avietarโ€˜s claim last day?
 

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thank you marms <3 you're so sweet T_T just like expected from an INFP T_T. I'm trying to stay calm, but relaxing doesn't work as I keep thinking of the thing that causes this emotional distress so I find it better to work and focus on the game, work isn't going well XD but the game seems to be distracting more from that.
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evil wasn't targeted directly, he targeted avietar last night (I spied on him and got "your target targeted Avietar") so they targeted avietar for the kill but Evil bodyblocked it.
The interesting thing is that I also targeted Evil and did not get any reply.
 

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Idk if someone else tells you in other pages I didnโ€˜t see, but you canโ€˜t vote DD today.
i realized that myself mentioned it in a later post
 

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I was so sure Desin died to protect an important role, I thought Hardy was Janitor himself cause that's the only way I would see a Mafia Det take the risk of dying, but in the end Evil vs Hardy was just town vs town after all. Fuck. And now Desin's luck messes with the signs we towns would rather see happen earlier. This 4 chosen would have been amazing later in the game when we got more confirmed townies besides you and Avi.
How could you think itโ€˜s hardy if our spy said he didnโ€˜t move N1. So uncharacteristic of you to miss obvious things James.
 

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please don't try to twist my words, I did not say "2 SANE spies" i said 2 spies are common. your list just confirms that
Look, I wrote A spy, one, singular, not SPIES as in plural, or at least two of them. And my list does not confirm it as common for Christ sake, it is uncommon to have two actual spies in the game, no matter their sanity. In one of the two games I mentioned myself both spies were sane by the way, so 1 in 10 games. And you know what? Your attitude is pissing me off enough to put in the work to do another 10 matches! So wait a few minutes and we see how "common" 2 spies are in 20 games!
 

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Yeah, that would have got Hardy lynched with like 17 voters if this was the case if a 2nd Investigator had come out. Though in that case the Janitor should have just committed suicide like in that one game where everyone could become investigator due cooking up some ingredients. But if there are 2 traitors why do you believe both to be naive and not one of them lying to us about their naive status?
ah, I don't, they just both specified ppl that were on their lists who are proven town, I forgot to specify that. I believe there can be 2 one naive and one sane is what I meant
 

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How could you think itโ€˜s hardy if our spy said he didnโ€˜t move N1. So uncharacteristic of you to miss obvious things James.
I expected Avi to be blocked, that way he can't see shit either and if Hardy knew Avi was blocked then he can say easily that he did nothing in night 1 since Avi couldn't say otherwise.
 

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2. why so surprised for 2 spies, there's 2 spies in like almost every game i played if not ALL games I played
No way, I think multiple Spies are a rare thing. Majority only have 1 or none.
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There is no sickly, lovers can only be added by a sign so no lovers or threesome candidate, hot potato was added as a sign so wasnt in the game til now. I highly doubt there is a mason recruiter in this game so no mason recruiter. Think about it.
What about anon vote on Shad D1? You didnโ€˜t think of finding Mafia Noble? This right here is a fake Psychiatrist that bought his license somewhere.
 

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I have to leave in a few minutes for work, but thankfully not an incredibly long shift, should be back in 7 hours.

With that said, @James Rye you asked for the list of names I received:
Demonspeed, Gajeel, Erinyes, Equalling Heaven and Hardy.
Though overlap with Erinโ€™s list shouldnโ€™t matter I think, as a naive traitor receives a randomized player list. Any overlapping players would be pure coincidence
 

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Honestly if choice is between you and 3 helpful townies Iโ€˜d lynch you in a heartbeat. I know this is your policy/playstyle of revealing nothing but thatโ€˜s a detriment in the long run. Unless we get a good case from someone else Iโ€˜m easily locking you.
There are better times to take a stance on compliance to hinting/claiming.

But I guess one of us has to go so there's no right way to handle it.
 

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Look, I wrote A spy, one, singular, not SPIES as in plural, or at least two of them. And my list does not confirm it as common for Christ sake, it is uncommon to have two actual spies in the game, no matter their sanity. In one of the two games I mentioned myself both spies were sane by the way, so 1 in 10 games. And you know what? Your attitude is pissing me off enough to put in the work to do another 10 matches! So wait a few minutes and we see how "common" 2 spies are in 20 games!
damn James :))) you rly triggered. I was gonna say a ok sorry for misreading, but then finished reading, so then again, go ahead :))) show me more.
 

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No way, I think multiple Spies are a rare thing. Majority only have 1 or none.
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What about anon vote on Shad D1? You didnโ€˜t think of finding Mafia Noble? This right here is a fake Psychiatrist that bought his license somewhere.
noble isnt secondary role you are dum dum
 

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To kill me after today, if the 4 role wasnt in place then it would be me and you a 50/50, but today you try to kill townie and you and me will draw all the investigative/blocking roles so your team can kill freely.
Sounds nice on paper but unrealistic. We wonโ€˜t draw any role action on us whatsoever, investigators can clear things up or not doesnโ€˜t matter, blockers can assume none of us would be killing. So no real benefit.
 

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No way, I think multiple Spies are a rare thing. Majority only have 1 or none.
Exactly! And 2 sane spies are even rarer.
Is it still the rule btw that a paranoid spy must always get a randomized name aka he can never get a "got no pm" result except he has been blocked? Because that is how I remember town figuring out if a spy is legit or paranoid or fake. That unlike the real spy the paranoid one always produces results.
And the role list doesn't say anything about paranoid spy getting no result as a randomized result:

Paranoid Spy (Townie): The Paranoid Spy has the ability to spy on someone at Night and find out who they targeted, but does not find out their target's actual Night Action. His result however is a randomized player name. He does not know about his sanity. (GAME 37)
 

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Sounds nice on paper but unrealistic. We wonโ€˜t draw any role action on us whatsoever, investigators can clear things up or not doesnโ€˜t matter, blockers can assume none of us would be killing. So no real benefit.
He has begun the mind games.
 

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damn James :))) you rly triggered. I was gonna say a ok sorry for misreading, but then finished reading, so then again, go ahead :))) show me more.
No way, ten games were already rough, I do you twenty though if that convinces you that 2 spies, no matter their sanity, ain't the usual norm. Like I said give me a few minutes.
 
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