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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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Gajeel, Mary and Marm for last 3? If Mary and Marm are innocent(you two know if you are), replace with Sakura and James/Juviii. GG EZ.
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You think only 1 mafia is left? Why?
No, its either 2 or 3. But that just means we gonna lose a couple towns at worst until we kill the last one. They can't kill us all and they have to worry about the lover in their own ranks as well. Except ofc Mafia throws the game and puts their weight behind the lover couple then we might see up to 4 people working together in votings.
 

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Samuel is Town now, not Doctor... our roles swapped. It's a fine way to confirm me though if we plan it and the escort dies in this lynch.
 

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I don't mind telling you my target from night 1 because I am starting to think that person never gonna die, lol.

Personally I would go after either Tatsu, Juviii, Brand, Marma or Gaj. If there are still 3 Mafias in-game, whenever the 3rd got recruited or not, then the chances for at least 2 of them being in there are the highest. Obviously if you guys don't wanna risk one of the important role claims, I can offer myself as sacrifice today. If I can't extra kill to prove myself I'm useless anyway.

Now go nuts, Mafia scum and try to get me lynched if you feel it to be so easy.
Avenger does nothing when lynched though. Shouldn't you have us lynch your avenging-target instead? Please tell me it's Gajeel. But it's probably me isn't it?
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Lynch Juviii, I'll votelock last, then die if she's Bomb and show you how you threw the game. It's a win for me.
Letting you decide our lynch will show us how to throw the game I agree.
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honestly idk what happened last night, I was hoping they somehow targeted one of the protected roles ....and idk if marm got recruited or not idk if traitor can still be recruited if they received lover role... i am very confused so idk what to say on that :(
@Copy Panda could the sign in theory give Lover to anyone, including people with secondary roles like Sickly, Traitor etc?
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Samuel is Town now, not Doctor... our roles swapped. It's a fine way to confirm me though if we plan it and the escort dies in this lynch.
But how do you confirm if she could use the role, not like Mary can know if she used a passive role, and Doctor doesn't give back any results. At most if a target dies that she protected.
 

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But how do you confirm if she could use the role, not like Mary can know if she used a passive role, and Doctor doesn't give back any results. At most if a target dies that she protected.
hmm I thought it would tell her it wouldn't work since it's a passive role. I've never had that role.
 

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The more I think about it the more my Gajeel theory fits perfectly.

Notice how Gajeel immediately claimed he got Doc from Sam, right as the day started? No town ever would come out as Doctor while being known as a different role. He knows mafia won't kill him because he's mafia sickly. He never sicklied because he did something else with his main mafia role the other nights.
He shared it for credibility only, as "nobody would lynch a Doc".
that's actually logical...
 

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hmm I thought it would tell her it wouldn't work since it's a passive role. I've never had that role.
No, you just say "I use X person's role to target Y". Hosts don't correct you because you can take a leap of faith with janitored targets.

Mary found Margi's role like that. Maybe needs to be included in the interactions list.
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by showing GrySun how mistaken he was, assuming he's town that is.
You're not the type to enjoy pointing and laughing over winning the game. I've been wrong as town many times, it's hardly a once-a-decade event you wanna live to see.
 

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Gajeel, Mary and Marm for last 3? If Mary and Marm are innocent(you two know if you are), replace with Sakura and James/Juviii. GG EZ.
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You think only 1 mafia is left? Why?
we discussing again the last voter in case the one we lynch is bomb right?
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Am off to walk the dog, have fun.
walking the dog IS the fun, not the game at this point :"(
 

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we discussing again the last voter in case the one we lynch is bomb right?
You can't really force a mafia to lock last on a bomb, but imo anyone between Marm, Sakura, Juviii and James should lock in case there's a Bomb.
 

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From portuguese to american real quick. We ought to cooperate together as a town, and you're not trusted. I just want you to place your vote on the person we agree on before the others.
All you do is say lynch juviii and come up with plans that seem more fit to get townies killed. Why would I trust you of all people and follow your plan to get me killed? :lmao Are you afraid that we lynch someone in specific? Even trying to boss us around after being so quiet.
 

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11 players left. We can afford like 3 mislynches if not more with our roles, it's just a matter of time until we win. So shouldn't stress it too much, this is unthrowable imo.
 

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Samuel is Town now, not Doctor... our roles swapped. It's a fine way to confirm me though if we plan it and the escort dies in this lynch.
considering we don't mislynch a townie with an active night role, then sam is gonna be the only one i can necro tonight anyways
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hmm I thought it would tell her it wouldn't work since it's a passive role. I've never had that role.
necormancer? no the hosts told me before that they won't tell me if i was able to take a role or not. so unless the role gives feed back then i won't know.
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they don't tell you if u took the role nor do they tell you what role you took.
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You can't really force a mafia to lock last on a bomb, but imo anyone between Marm, Sakura, Juviii and James should lock in case there's a Bomb.
imo not marm as i know at least that she wasn't recruited last night, can't risk loosing a doc
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considering we don't mislynch a townie with an active night role, then sam is gonna be the only one i can necro tonight anyways
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necormancer? no the hosts told me before that they won't tell me if i was able to take a role or not. so unless the role gives feed back then i won't know.
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they don't tell you if u took the role nor do they tell you what role you took.
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imo not marm as i know at least that she wasn't recruited last night, can't risk loosing a doc
i meant marm not to be the last to lock, i just reread ur sentence and i'm not sure if u mean those people should lock first or last. i think u meant they should lock first??
 

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All you do is say lynch juviii and come up with plans that seem more fit to get townies killed. Why would I trust you of all people and follow your plan to get me killed? :lmao Are you afraid that we lynch someone in specific? Even trying to boss us around after being so quiet.
I donโ€™t need your trust. I just want you to go first when everyone will have found who the lynch will be. I donโ€™t trust you one bit, and with 2 mafia in the DC... Iโ€™ll go right after you if that consoles you.
 

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i meant marm not to be the last to lock, i just reread ur sentence and i'm not sure if u mean those people should lock first or last. i think u meant they should lock first??
No, last. True we can exclude Marm since you vouch for her, I just can't believe in 3 Naive Traitors. Not only does that make my role lose any purpose but also just serves no purpose. At most people will play weirdly on first few phases, then soon at least 1 of their names dies as town. Or a mafia not in their list dies.
 

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But that tells us the escort cared more about keeping you from knowing mafia's target than Asako discovering them.
And that's kinda worrying be if they waiting for me to confirm their boss of they have one


@GrySun you can investigate me but later not tomorrow, priority comes to finding out if marma still traitor or not just in case
I'm more worried about mafias as they the one that kill so prefer to focus on them ...

Plus this townie lover things on me is great lol, means mafia won't kill yolo, just not to confirm it
 

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Avenger does nothing when lynched though. Shouldn't you have us lynch your avenging-target instead? Please tell me it's Gajeel. But it's probably me isn't it?
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Letting you decide our lynch will show us how to throw the game I agree.
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@Copy Panda could the sign in theory give Lover to anyone, including people with secondary roles like Sickly, Traitor etc?
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But how do you confirm if she could use the role, not like Mary can know if she used a passive role, and Doctor doesn't give back any results. At most if a target dies that she protected.
Ofc it is you! Usually you die in the first third of the game, so easy way to prove myself. Big brain plan, lol.
Not like it matters anymore.

that's actually logical...
You forget the whole game mechanic of allowing the DC to swap their role with one of ours. Our worst case scenario would be Gaj having the balls to go "pure townie" in hopes of gaining the role swap while being Boss himself. Because then he would be a proven Doc. Until our Det/Necro check that claim out. Until then we still got a couple mafia to find and we got a night without a kill which could mean recruitment.

we discussing again the last voter in case the one we lynch is bomb right?
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walking the dog IS the fun, not the game at this point :"(
Yeah, fresh air, lots of sun, green fields. Much better than being a cool role without being able to use it and going to get lynched either today or tomorrow because Avenger ranks way lower than some of the other claimed roles though some of those gotta be lies. Especially now since one of our townies is anti-town lover now and we have yet to find them.
 

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@GrySun you can investigate me but later not tomorrow, priority comes to finding out if marma still traitor or not just in case
I'm more worried about mafias as they the one that kill so prefer to focus on them ...

Plus this townie lover things on me is great lol, means mafia won't kill yolo, just not to confirm it
I'll think about it. Confirming either sakura or Marm could be useful, but an unrecruited Traitor can always be recruited so we'll never know for sure. Only people that claim not to have secondaries could be reliably found out, but could also be a waste. I'll see.
 

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11 players left. We can afford like 3 mislynches if not more with our roles, it's just a matter of time until we win. So shouldn't stress it too much, this is unthrowable imo.
Don't think like that gry, i have bad memory of games being overconfident and being destroyed by mafia juviii later on because of it in one game and the other being brandish/crescent

I told myself that i stop thinking it's safe for townies, it's always dangerous for us ... don't be overconfident
 
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