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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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Hmmm yea the more i think about it the more it's not great for gajeel

James - send a really obvious hint really early game, can't believe a mafia could do it
Juviii - could get rid of me and gry long ago
Tatsu - i got an innocent on her
Mary - feel like the way she playing is a newbie townie, with all the question she asking, but could go either way, remember takuan playstyle when he was mafia... Still there also whatever demon tried to do
Marma- not recruited if mary is really townie so clear unless Mary isn't
Brandish- for the sacrifice of erin and the fact we know EH role was indead stolen, i believe he townie....
Gry- confirmed townie cuz DD shooting himself in the foot

Now only one left is gajeel.......
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I'm not counting lover drama in this btw considering our main goal is to get rid of Mafias
The thing here is that the case on Gajeel is more straightforward while the others we have to have a lot of things in consideration + 2 newbies that we can't predict much in terms of playstyle and then there's the traitor mess.
 

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Asako, just a heads up but get rid of your personal feelings in the next phase. If that's why you can't vote for Juviii then we will not win.
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Mary, if you're not under mafia guardianship, then I applaud you. You played well so far. I'm looking forward to playing with you next time.

Tatsu I know you're busy, but be more cooperative smh. Good luck!
 

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In the back of my mind considering what's happening here, there always the bomb juviii lynch that pops up with gajeel as the last vote so to not bother with all this ...
 

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Oh, and avietar. Bad luck I guess haha. Make sure not to depend too much on others, especially GrySun, this game. Like this lynch for example. :)
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In the back of my mind considering what's happening here, there always the bomb juviii lynch that pops up with gajeel as the last vote so to not bother with all this ...
They won't allow it.
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In the back of my mind considering what's happening here, there always the bomb juviii lynch that pops up with gajeel as the last vote so to not bother with all this ...
That being said I'm 100% ok with that plan.
 

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Oh, and avietar. Bad luck I guess haha. Make sure not to depend too much on others, especially GrySun, this game. Like this lynch for example. :)
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They won't allow it.
Thanks. I'm not set on you, know that. But we have to make a choice.

Honestly, isn't Juvii claiming bomb? Why don't we all pile on her, and have Gajeel vote last? I'm for.
 

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Mary, if you're not under mafia guardianship, then I applaud you. You played well so far. I'm looking forward to playing with you next time.
thank youuu, but you telling me this while i'm considering not playing again isn't helpful xD
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In the back of my mind considering what's happening here, there always the bomb juviii lynch that pops up with gajeel as the last vote so to not bother with all this ...
this plan...
 

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@Copy Panda Is it possible for me to vote for myself? I have never experienced that in the games I have played.
I asked like that two or three times in some other games. You'll get used to it, Gaj.

Btw, I reread and someone mentioned 3 naive traitors? I thought only Erin and Marma were the ones who claimed naive, who else did so? Was it due an investigation from Gry that a 3rd one claimed naive traitor to explain their 2nd role?
 

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@Copy Panda Just to make sure, I'm still the one dying if Juviii is bomb even after the mechanic votes right?
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Btw, I reread and someone mentioned 3 naive traitors? I thought only Erin and Marma were the ones who claimed naive, who else did so? Was it due an investigation from Gry that a 3rd one claimed naive traitor to explain their 2nd role?
Erinyes, Marmalade, and sakura.
 

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@Copy Panda Just to make sure, I'm still the one dying if Juviii is bomb even after the mechanic votes right?
Lol, I doubt our DCs can die twice. Then again it did happen to EH sort of. XD
 

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sakura was found by GrySun, and the other two just came out by themselves.
 

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@Copy Panda Just to make sure, I'm still the one dying if Juviii is bomb even after the mechanic votes right?
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Erinyes, Marmalade, and sakura.
Whut??? Sakura claims 3rd naive traitor? In one game? The fuck's this? Rofl. XDDD
 

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I asked like that two or three times in some other games. You'll get used to it, Gaj.

Btw, I reread and someone mentioned 3 naive traitors? I thought only Erin and Marma were the ones who claimed naive, who else did so? Was it due an investigation from Gry that a 3rd one claimed naive traitor to explain their 2nd role?
sakura if i'm not wrong
 

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Is this the point in time where Gajeel's buddies come to the rescue?
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Haha I see where this is going. Gajeel votes last then he doesn't explode due to DD and Demon votes. Whoops.
 

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Is this the point in time where Gajeel's buddies come to the rescue?
You're delusional. I told you I'm not defended by anyone.
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nevermind, you're not delusional.
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nice catch.
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oh vnm you are delusional
 

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sakura was found by GrySun, and the other two just came out by themselves.
Well, wouldn't that make it obvious she is anything but naive traitor or heck, a traitor for that matter to begin with? Like her best chance to come out was when both Erin and Marma came out. And I already didn't trusted those claims, it's too easy to "act" as naive when you are actually the real traitor. That's why we usually lynch those claims in most games, too risky.
 

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@Copy Panda Just to make sure, I'm still the one dying if Juviii is bomb even after the mechanic votes right?
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Erinyes, Marmalade, and sakura.
Uh can you rephrase the question?

And if you haven't already, can you vote Rin?
 
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Well, wouldn't that make it obvious she is anything but naive traitor or heck, a traitor for that matter to begin with? Like her best chance to come out was when both Erin and Marma came out. And I already didn't trusted those claims, it's too easy to "act" as naive when you are actually the real traitor. That's why we usually lynch those claims in most games, too risky.
No idea James, it's not the discussion that we're having at the table at this point lol. Keep it for tomorrow.
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Uh can you rephrase the question?
Even if DD, Demonspeed, or Heaven vote after me on Juviii (Bomb), I'm still the one dying correct?
 

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All i know is that i want to go to sleep...
 

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No idea James, it's not the discussion that we're having at the table at this point lol. Keep it for tomorrow.
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Even if DD, Demonspeed, or Heaven vote after me on Juviii (Bomb), I'm still the one dying correct?
Ah yes the last living player goes boom
 

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Well, wouldn't that make it obvious she is anything but naive traitor or heck, a traitor for that matter to begin with? Like her best chance to come out was when both Erin and Marma came out. And I already didn't trusted those claims, it's too easy to "act" as naive when you are actually the real traitor. That's why we usually lynch those claims in most games, too risky.
uh wrong big brain. how bout you go back and read and stop trying to shift attention towards me right before the day end :)))) this can be discussed tomorrow after oyu finished reading everything if you have more questions I'll gladly reply.
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Well, wouldn't that make it obvious she is anything but naive traitor or heck, a traitor for that matter to begin with? Like her best chance to come out was when both Erin and Marma came out. And I already didn't trusted those claims, it's too easy to "act" as naive when you are actually the real traitor. That's why we usually lynch those claims in most games, too risky.
also, how convenient is it that they both revealed right after Gry revealed? How does that make them *less sus of me, in any case traitor dies traitor even as naive, so you'll never now. I also offered for the lynch both today and yesterday. But you know, you haven't read any of that cuz you're just here pretending to be clueless like you've been the entire game. You guys all silent the entire day and then come before the day end to spread more confusion, at least read the entire day thread properly before you say smth.

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*less sus than me
 
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