Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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A ten year streak is enough of an accomplishment, next year its going to be jjk, probably kny(depending on anime boost), and probably chainsaw man(also depending on how big the anime boost).


The year after that barring any surprises, probably jjk again(although it might be the last year for jjk in general according to the authors two year deadline), though the rest are up for debate(kny would be over and the boost largely done, chainsaw man would doedn on how big the boost, maybe spy family? And kaijou 8?)
 

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s2 of Demon Slayer and Movie 2 will probably keep it elevated. A rerelease with newly drawn covers could help.
 

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s2 of Demon Slayer and Movie 2 will probably keep it elevated. A rerelease with newly drawn covers could help.
I wouldn’t expect kanzenbans for a while
 

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I can understand the anticipation of Chainsaw man's explosion to the scene, I think it has already reached 600K or even more per volume and I'm taking into account an increase of 500K per volume which is nothing to laugh about, maybe having extra 3 volumes of Part 2 by the time the anime will end and the year will be over or a bit more for a total of 7M.

Using Tokyo Revengers, JJK and KnY as a measuring stick is all wrong because those are unpredictable anomalies. Unless Japan enters a new Covid surge and complete lockdowns I don't expect such a surge to happen in the next year(hope I'm wrong).

Kimetsu might still sell but no more than 3-4M even with the boost. Try comparing Shingeki's 1st season boost (500k->2.1M) to the 2nd (2.1M->2.250M), It's not about the quality but moreso that second seasons don't generate the same explosion, Haikyuu as well and it had a better 2nd season with a higher climax than the first and the boost was still marginal in comparison.

My top pick IS JJK with One Piece coming very close or if lucky than slightly above, I also hope it gets a boost to all volumes simply due to it entering it's final stretch and even with a 100K increase to all volumes yearly we will reach 10M in sales. I predict less but I do see a silght increase happening soon after episode 1000 which will carry forward.

The only reason I don't see Kaijuu 8 or Spy X Family taking top spots is the lack of volumes out. If it had more I would bet on it gaining momentum this year and the next.
 

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This week's top 5:
1. Magu-chan: God of Destruction -
2. Mission: Yozakura Family -
3. Witch Watch -
4. Undead Unluck -
5. Me & Roboco -

The best of the rest:
6. Sakamoto Days -
7. Blue Box -
8. High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku -
9. Mashle -
10. Ayakashi Triangle -
11. Candy Flurry -
 

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Guys, mentioning other series from any other manga magazine isn't forbidden, but please try prevent from doing just one line comments solely praising series from other manga magazines, try to keep on topic, mangas from Shonen Jump, depending of the comment it can be deleted or moved.
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The Author comments don't seem to have shown up on Viz or manga+ yet, manga+ always takes a while but viz usually has them up right away.
 

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1. Mission: Yozakura Family: Unpopular opinion maybe, but the match with Kyochiro has reached great heights. I was wondering if the whole Taiyo-Kyochiro plot point is going to be resolved with this fight? That's a pretty big plot point, maybe it is a hint that we are heading towards the conclusion.
2. The Elusive Samurai: I recently rank this always very high, I am really enjoying this fight. I think that one of the hints that a series is definitely safe is when it has a chapter where the main character doesn't show up at all (save from some reminescences, in this case).
3. Sakamoto Days: This is a defining chapter for the start of the new arc. It reminds me of the assassin arc of Chainsawman, in a way. Of course I don't expect anything delirious like that, but this is going to be wild and fun.
4. Shokugeki no Sanji: It is probably the best chapter of this "series" until now. Actually, I think that the authors are getting more at ease with the subject and they have a certain level of freedom, so every chapter is getting better. This one is so believable that is now canon in my head.
5. Witch Watch: The fight was quite satisfactory. I'm not a fan of an opponent that seems the worse pick for the hero, but then makes a slight mistake and gets overwhelmed. The best this of the fight was definitely Moi going full PEGASUS RYUSEIKEN!!!!!
6. One Piece: I was going to rank it lower than this because it was only a chapter with the usual recaps and scene switches. Then I suddenly remember that it also contained a flashback and the samurais in there were so cool that I had to give it a better position! My pride as a samurai wouldn't allow me otherwise.
7. Undead Unluck: A flashback chapter in the middle of nowhere. That's good, we knew next to nothing of this character. At least this time he didn't indirectly kill his parents! (well, someone died, but still...)
8. Highschool Family: That was a subplot that I forgot until I recently saw the cover of vol. 3. I remember I liked a lot that old chapter, and I liked a lot also this one where the mom gets a bit of spotlight. She is very dedicated to her vocation of being a mom...
9. Jujutsu Kaisen: Tough guys fighting. Every tough man falls in love with Yuji eventually. Now let's move on, we have a plan to discuss.
10. Blue Box: Finally, a chapter dedicated mostly to sports. Actually, only to discussions about sports. Now I'm quite curious about a chapter dedicated to Chinatsu's basketball team and their sports problems.
11. Me & Roboco: Nice chapter this week, with a funny concept for once and a good execution. The best part was when "all of humanity" was involved in this absurd daydreaming.
12. My Hero Academia: In the end the big talk worked and everyone abandoned their prejudices. It even defeated racism! In a series where everyone has superpowers, this is the most unrealistic thing that has ever happened.
13. Candy Flurry: I wanted to reward it with a relatively high position because of the "trash factor". At least I can now consider her power as the most powerful ability in the series, and her explanation of how it works kinda convinced me. Now, for the grand finale!
14. Magu-chan: God of Destruction: There was a lot of Magu-chan in this chapter about Magu-chan. I like when he has a chapter about his solitary adventures. For me, the funniest thing about this series has always been the way Magu talks, so the more balloons he gets, the better.
15. The Hunters Guild: Red Hood: I don't have much to say unfortunately, apart from "average exam arc development". I appreciate that they tried to be clever, in their place I would have just hidden somewhere for two hours.
16. Neru: Way of the Martial Artist: This series is starting to disappoint me. The motivations are bland, we are going to the school for the sake of going to the school, we want to be the very best like no one ever was, and there is a subplot against sexist stereotypes that feels pretty old in 2021.
17. Ayakashi Triangle: I feel a little sorry for this series because now they are in a serious mood and the fanservice that I often attacked is temporarily left aside, but unfortunately I can't enjoy the current arc. I can't get into the main villain, that in my eyes should still be an ally rather than an enemy, and this kinda ruins my enjoyment. Me and Ayakashi Triangle just can't get along no matter what.
18. Dr. Stone: First two thirds were usual Dr. Stone stuff, that recently looks also rushed and with many things that are taken for granted. You really feel like they want to move away from this part as fast as they can. The last third was huge, but kinda ruined from how bad the previous part was for me.
19. Mashle: Mash does Mash things and apparently wins, as expected. Tune in next chapter, when he will be doing exactly the same.
 

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The speculation that Candy Flurry will end in 2 issues, is that coming from manga+ IDs?

Would also likely mean the new batch announced in #41 or #42 as well.
 

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Ayakashi Triangle may end before its 2nd birthday at this rate.
 

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Honto - 09/05

01. ONE PIECE #100
02. Kaijuu 8-gou #04
03. Look Back
07. BORUTO #15
14. Shirai Kaiu × Demizu Posuka Tanpenshuu
39. Shin Tennis no Ouji-sama #34
52. WITCH WATCH #02
54. SAKAMOTO DAYS #03
86. Himesama "goumon" no Jikan desu #07
 

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Decided to move back banks869 comment and edited my mod one, guys just try to not make simple one line comments praising other magazine series so it can't be considered out of topic. :)

The speculation that Candy Flurry will end in 2 issues, is that coming from manga+ IDs?

Would also likely mean the new batch announced in #41 or #42 as well.
Yes, all series has 4 ids but Candy Flurry has 3, we're probably getting new series on #42 or #43
 

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I guess that also tentatively confirms nothing else except Candy Flurry is ending (since older series end first, meaning they'd have to end next issue), but that's everyone expected.

I wonder what kind of new series we'll see, we've honestly got enough of all the core genres right now except sports and WSJ seem a lot less willing to try out those recently. Perhaps we'll see something unusual? Feels about time for something weirder (well, I guess we have had i tell c already to attempt to fill that niche but it failed).
 

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I guess that also tentatively confirms nothing else except Candy Flurry is ending (since older series end first, meaning they'd have to end next issue), but that's everyone expected.

I wonder what kind of new series we'll see, we've honestly got enough of all the core genres right now except sports and WSJ seem a lot less willing to try out those recently. Perhaps we'll see something unusual? Feels about time for something weirder (well, I guess we have had i tell c already to attempt to fill that niche but it failed).
I hope we get a sports manga
 

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I think a "non-traditional" battle series would be cool like Food Wars, act-age, Magazine's Smile Down the Runway, etc. I might be blanking on something really obvious but I don't think we have any of those right now
 

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Probably not going to happen but a delinquent manga? with the giant success of Tokyo Revengers, Shonen Jump could at least try with the yankee/delinquent genre again.

To be honest the idea of another 2 new series at least when i'm already worried about Red Hood and Neru, it hurts kkkk.
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Btw, glad to see Yonkou back, for a moment was worried about ToC getting leaked late next week :p
 

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Cop and Dolphin started out as a yankee manga in disguise, though didn't take too long to abandon it to go in a more regular battle shounen direction.

Although is there even any delinquent manga on Jump+? It seems to be a pretty rare genre these days for everyone except Champion.
 

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A 2-batch is promising. I wish it was more, but what can you do?

Hoping for Shuichi Aso. Always hoping for Suichi Aso.

12. My Hero Academia: In the end the big talk worked and everyone abandoned their prejudices. It even defeated racism! In a series where everyone has superpowers, this is the most unrealistic thing that has ever happened.
To be fair, they didn't "defeat racism". But they did, for a single instant, for a single person, overturn a single mob's fears in exchange for the promise of something in return. It's the first step in a very long road towards the future Hawks mentions.
 

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Since author's comments still aren't out yet you can all just MTL this page in the meantime.
 
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