Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

yet it has multiple magics not just one, and that steel I’d derived from iron, as it is from iron, not the same as iron, you should understand that by now that even when things that have similar properties can be considered other things all together,

 

[Axiomus]

yet it has multiple magics not just one, and that steel I’d derived from iron, as it is from iron, not the same as iron, you should understand that by now that even when things that have similar properties can be considered other things all together,

It's all derived from air. All of Wendy's enchantments, healing, buffs, are powers derived from the air.

Steel is iron with less than 2% carbon particles in it. Because it's an alloy, it doesn't have the same properties as pure iron. But the iron in steel is still iron. Atomically speaking, it hasn't become something else. All the iron atoms in steel are still 100% iron atoms. They just crystalized in a stronger shape. Because alloys are still overwhelmingly comprised of the same element as their parent metal.

 

[WoWfan]

Air does not produce healing magic or enchantments or spirits, otherwise everyone would have constant Vernier, Arms, etc, constantly healed and spirits would fly around, anyone can do those things and not use air for that, unless you show an image of her eating enchantments, healing, spirits, then no.

Steel is and alloy while iron is a metal, carbon varies, they may share an association, they still transform the make up of said material with other properties, but still distinct, similar to Chimpanzees having 98% of human DNA yet considered it’s own species.

 

[Axiomus]

Sky Magic draws it's power from the air, and all of Wendy's magic are sky magic. It would even be appropriate to say that Sky Magic is magic that harnesses the air to heal or cast enchantments. Nobody else uses sky magic lol.

Yeah, and anything that can eat and digest chimp flesh can also eat and digest human flesh. But your analogy isn't even appropriate, because steel isn't 98% similar to iron. Steel is 98% iron. It is physically made up of iron. But anyways, like I said, slayers aren't limited to their elements in what they can eat. Gajeel can eat Dorma Anim's tail, even though it's armor is coated in wizard canceller.

Spoiler

Gajeel can eat shadows, which is 0% iron. He can absorb carbon through his skin to make his own steel. What on earth makes you think he can't eat steel, which is 98% iron?

 

[Seven777]

7, Correction Sting’s element is both white and light, while Wendy’s element is air since she is only confirmed to eat Air, show me actual proof she can eat anything other than air, and not just assumptions, I don’t the manga stated it for Me multiple times by both others, people close to her and info cards and not once show or stated she can eat anything else, which it does repeatedly. Her roar and drill is air as Chelia stated, even the wikia has her stated to utilize air, sky is a location, not an element, her healing magic is healing arts which is an application of sky magic. She eats air to the point it makes it hard to breath for others, she could literally kill anyone with that, wat? she doesn’t because she is a child and doesn’t like to fight and has a limited capacity for magic as well, as well as/or CIS considering that she doesn’t eat when it matters.

No, Sting's element is just White, because he is the White Dragon Slayer, Light magic simply fall under that as well. Similarly, air is part of Sky magic.
Oh, I don't think so, I don't need Wendy to eat anything other than air, it's already stated outright in the manga, her magic is Sky. It's like trying to prove that Gajeel is a Shadow Dragon Slayer and Rogue isn't, because Rogue has never eaten Shadows, ridiculous.

 

[sharkai]

-What can I say? If half the character is black, I notice.
-Wahl isn't a computer and Laxus isn't hitting him with a virus. Plug a corrupted phone the computer doesn't recognize into it, it still charges.
-Rather Laxus's performance exceeded his expectations to the point where he couldn't believe it. aka he was pissed Laxus played him.
-White Witch is stronger than Laxus. Don't add Wendy, that's being disingenuous.
-Because just like Gajeel and Mira, he is a side character. The only difference is that due to his power, Mashima needed to nerf him several times over.
-No it doesn't, because lightning isn't information, it's physical. Your whole idea that Wahl funnels his immunity through some sort of computer that analyses it rather than simply altering his physical body to absorb it is all made up too. But that's fine lmao, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day because the main point still stands, if it's different enough to bypass immunity, then it's different enough to bypass weakness too.

It's stated outright and happens in the manga
1. This is something you've made up.
2. No, DF is equivalent to DF from Natsu. Any fight, Laxus vs Jura, Erza vs Minerva, Gray vs Rufus, it's all PoF, but that's still their power level.
3. If that happens in the manga it happens in the manga. Realistically Evergreen beats virtually everyone she fights as long as they don't know her power. Doesn't happen because that's just the way it goes.

-he has AI which said that it didnt recognize red lightning. my iphone doesnt charge with charger it doesnt like
-weird way to show pissed off character
-white witch wasnt strong enough to stop wendy
-couldnt mishma just create a stronger springgan for him
-nope. it still lightning, which wahl couldnt recognize thus cant convert. there is no rocket science here. his species is weak to lightning, wahl isnt because he converts it. if he cant covert it, he is super weak to it just like his species.

1. nope this is wahl species description in the manga. and how wahl immunity works
2. nope. natsu evaporated infinite magic. that is pof. erza can fight without senses and can one shot august tiers with all her bones broken that is pof
3. lol

 

[WoWfan]

air helps replenish Wendy’s magic power so she can use her other air magic, healing magic and enchantments which all together is parts of Sky Magic, yet we do not see her eat healing magics, etc.. Not anything as they would contract deceases like any other animal depending on the type. Just like Chimps and humans are related in the same way. It’s physical make up changes from that of the original iron, yet it metal, so not really different there, Gajeel’s ability to eat shadow doesn’t mean he can eat steel since the two have nothing in common, even while similar, steel is an alloy, not an element.

No, Sting's element is just White, because he is the White Dragon Slayer, Light magic simply fall under that as well. Similarly, air is part of Sky magic.
Oh, I don't think so, I don't need Wendy to eat anything other than air, it's already stated outright in the manga, her magic is Sky. It's like trying to prove that Gajeel is a Shadow Dragon Slayer and Rogue isn't, because Rogue has never eaten Shadows, ridiculous.

Nope, Sting’s element is White and Light as stated in his fight with Larcade, light and white are different in the sense of what they do, but Sting stated that both in the sense of consuming and being immune too falls under his jurisdiction, something that Wendy has never been stated to be, air magic is something that can be used with Sky Magic, that is the only element she can consume, her magic is Sky, but her element is air, two different things.

sharkai, Erza didn’t really one shot August level spriggan even with power ups, she simple just couldn’t move when Irene was about to finish her.

 

[sharkai]

What? Lightning he can't analyze is just lightning he can't analyze. Even if Wall couldn't absorb red lightning, and was weak to it, it's not like Laxus has a slayer advantage. Machines are generally vulnerable to electricity because they have circuitry and wires that can get fried if there's too much electricity. Laxus' attack hit Wall so hard that he was smashed to pieces. Even if we apply pokemon logic and Wall's body being made out of metal makes him super vulnerable to lightning, like a pokemon, that still wouldn't put them on equal levels. Laxus isn't shattering Gajeel into pieces just because he can turn himself into iron.

No, you're ignoring a million things. Acnologia isn't August. His immunity to magic is good enough that he can no-sell attacks from Igneel, and even if you can get past his immunity to magic his dragon scales are simply too hard to pierce. Acnologia can be sleeping in his dragon form, and still take no real damage. That's basically what we saw with Aldoron. He was sleeping through Fairy Tail fighting on his back. The clash between Erza and Laxus didn't even show up on his radar. Aldoron took 1 point of damage to his 100,000,000 points of health from Natsu's FDK destruction fist specifically aimed at him. It would take a lifetime for Natsu to spam enough FDK destruction fists to bring him down, and Erza doesn't have an attack that hits 100x as hard as Natsu's FDK, let alone in the orders of magnitude required to actually do any significant amount of damage. The difference between Acnologia and Erza isn't the difference between August and Brandish. You can add a Laxus tier to Lucy and stand a good chance of evening the odds (so long as they have a means of using holder magic). You can add the entire guild of dragon slayers, or even dragons, to Erza and it wouldn't really make a difference against Acno. You literally need to have the entire continent casting Fairy Sphere to just have magic that can even restrict Acno's movements. Btw, there was no shortage of POF when everyone fought Acno in the end. Literally everyone had POF. It still took massive coincidences to actually bring Acno down, and they still never managed to defeat his dragon form.

Wait....You think Erza can kill Acnologia? Naw dude. She doesn't even deal the amount of damage that Igneel did when they fought in Tartaros. I'm not even talk about taking an arm here. She doesn't even scratch him up like Igneel did after their first round.

it is pokemon like logic because its in the manga. wahl is super weak to lightning if he cant convert it. machines cant convert thing they cant recognize. the lightning most likely makes wahl circuit explodes. which is most likely waht happened. no laxus at max can drill a hole through gajeel

i am just ignoring the million number thing.
pof can allow natsu to destroy infinite magic
surprise attack can make lucy tier kill august tier
magical advantage, well you people had erza tier one shotting dragon eileen.

combine that all together. yeah i think aconologia will die.
to kill rot aconologia, only 7 ds magic was enough (if fairy sphere only contained him).

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sharkai, Erza didn’t really one shot August level spriggan even with power ups, she simple just couldn’t move when Irene was about to finish her.

the people i am talking to believes that, so i am just going with their logic

 

[WoWfan]

oh, okay, carry on.

 

[Axiomus]

it is pokemon like logic because its in the manga. wahl is super weak to lightning if he cant convert it. machines cant convert thing they cant recognize. the lightning most likely makes wahl circuit explodes. which is most likely waht happened. no laxus at max can drill a hole through gajeel

i am just ignoring the million number thing.
pof can allow natsu to destroy infinite magic
surprise attack can make lucy tier kill august tier
magical advantage, well you people had erza tier one shotting dragon eileen.

combine that all together. yeah i think aconologia will die.
to kill rot aconologia, only 7 ds magic was enough (if fairy sphere only contained him).

That's not a real argument. Circuits getting fried wouldn't make a machine explode. No, Laxus can't drill a hole through Gajeel.

• And you shouldn't be.
• Erza is nowhere near as strong as max POF Natsu, and max POF Natsu would still lose to Acno.
• No, lol. Surprise attacks doesn't allow Lucy tiers to kill August tiers. Brandish with a surprise attack didn't manage to kill August. The difference betwen Acno and Erza is also larger than the difference between August and Lucy.
• Erza did oneshot dragon Irene. With a slayer advantage.

It's been established that dragon forms are far stronger than human forms. 7DS Natsu was only strong enough to defeat a handicapped human Acno. Had Acno still been able to move, he would have just ripped Natsu apart. Lucy and the entire continent had to use Fairy Sphere to buy Natsu to the time to finish Acno. Heck, even Igneel biting off Acno's arm played a role. If Acno hadn't been forced to split his spirit and body, everyone would have been screwed. 7DS Natsu isn't fast enough to beat Acno in human form before he gets ripped apart, and nobody is actually strong enough to beat Acno in dragon form. Acno would have just waited out Fairy Sphere, and then murdered everyone. Cue Rogue's future.

 

[WoWfan]

He split because of the power overdose from RoT, he would still be affected by FS if he was MS and everyone was at full power for it, though the spell is temporary

 

[Axiomus]

air helps replenish Wendy’s magic power so she can use her other air magic, healing magic and enchantments which all together is parts of Sky Magic, yet we do not see her eat healing magics, etc.. Not anything as they would contract deceases like any other animal depending on the type. Just like Chimps and humans are related in the same way. It’s physical make up changes from that of the original iron, yet it metal, so not really different there, Gajeel’s ability to eat shadow doesn’t mean he can eat steel since the two have nothing in common, even while similar, steel is an alloy, not an element.

Wendy's magic draws its power from the air. She literally gets stronger as the air is more pure, and becomes weaker when the air is polluted. She can't even use magic if the air quality is too bad. This is what sky magic is. It's magic that draws power from the air, or rather the sky, to use for enchantments and healing. Like I said, healing and enchantments is probably the basics of sky magic. That's why Grandeeney taught that to Wendy first.

Lol stop. Diseases? Just stop.

I'm done arguing against your word salad. Shadow is 0% iron. Steel is 98% iron. No reason Gajeel would be able to eat shadows and not steel.

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He split because of the power overdose from RoT, he would still be affected by FS if he was MS and everyone was at full power for it, though the spell is temporary

No. He would only be affected by Fairy Sphere if everyone on the continent linked up together. Otherwise, he would just start smashing out of Fairy Sphere.

But it actually doesn't matter. Fairy Sphere on it's own is useless. It just stops Acnologia from moving. Eventually everyone would run out of magic power, and Acnologia would just continue. It's not even like they can take advantage of Acnologia being immobilized, because Fairy Sphere is going to be protecting Acno from any outside attack. Without Natsu's group fighting Acno's spirit in the rift of time, it was only a matter of time before Acno started smashing his way out.

 

[grey matter]

This madness is still going on!

 

[sharkai]

That's not a real argument. Circuits getting fried wouldn't make a machine explode. No, Laxus can't drill a hole through Gajeel.

• And you shouldn't be.
• Erza is nowhere near as strong as max POF Natsu, and max POF Natsu would still lose to Acno.
• No, lol. Surprise attacks doesn't allow Lucy tiers to kill August tiers. Brandish with a surprise attack didn't manage to kill August. The difference betwen Acno and Erza is also larger than the difference between August and Lucy.
• Erza did oneshot dragon Irene. With a slayer advantage.

It's been established that dragon forms are far stronger than human forms. 7DS Natsu was only strong enough to defeat a handicapped human Acno. Had Acno still been able to move, he would have just ripped Natsu apart. Lucy and the entire continent had to use Fairy Sphere to buy Natsu to the time to finish Acno. Heck, even Igneel biting off Acno's arm played a role. If Acno hadn't been forced to split his spirit and body, everyone would have been screwed. 7DS Natsu isn't fast enough to beat Acno in human form before he gets ripped apart, and nobody is actually strong enough to beat Acno in dragon form. Acno would have just waited out Fairy Sphere, and then murdered everyone. Cue Rogue's future.

you dont know that
-i dont like it so i ignore it
-erza is next best pof exploiter.
-plot. brandish could have killed him.
-no slayer advantage, unless we see suzaku oneshotting ignia or something.

if we give extreme pof, extreme advantage, huge surprise. combined all that, i dont see why not.

in manga, 7 ds were enough to kill acno, instead we are getting 3 different advantages and yes, acno is not moving here (otherwise how will he be surprised)

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This madness is still going on!

na, instead of laxus wank, we are talking about whether having 3 separate advantages would be enough to take out acno

 

[GL_Nova]

you dont know that
-i dont like it so i ignore it
-erza is next best pof exploiter.
-plot. brandish could have killed him.
-no slayer advantage, unless we see suzaku oneshotting ignia or something.

if we give extreme pof, extreme advantage, huge surprise. combined all that, i dont see why not.

in manga, 7 ds were enough to kill acno, instead we are getting 3 different advantages and yes, acno is not moving here (otherwise how will he be surprised)

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na, instead of laxus wank, we are talking about whether having 3 separate advantages would be enough to take out acno

That sounds about right.

 

[sharkai]

That sounds about right.

huh even i am not in erza killing acno with all those three advantages, i am just saying it might be possible. so what do you mean, apart from laxus having more mp than the most mp human in fairy tail verse, or laxus causally one shotting them
so what do you mean

 

[Axiomus]

you dont know that
-i dont like it so i ignore it
-erza is next best pof exploiter.
-plot. brandish could have killed him.
-no slayer advantage, unless we see suzaku oneshotting ignia or something.

if we give extreme pof, extreme advantage, huge surprise. combined all that, i dont see why not.

in manga, 7 ds were enough to kill acno, instead we are getting 3 different advantages and yes, acno is not moving here (otherwise how will he be surprised)

Yea, I do. Or at least no real life machine would blow up like that getting their circuits fried. Try shorting out an old computer with a taser. And we see what happened to Wall....he didnt blow up. His head and spine was ripped from his torso by the punch.

• It's a fact you're just ignoring.
• She's still not Natsu, and Natsu wouldnt be able to kill Acno anyways.
• Brandish aint Lucy tier, and didnt kill him. And dragon Acno is not August lol.
• Yes, Erza had a slayer advantage. We've gone over this before. The god dragons durability are so high that it outweighs their vulnerability to dragon slaying magic. Mercphobia and Igneel can tank shots from IgNatsu and Acnologia respectively. They are outside of the oneshot range of slayers stronger than themselves. Irene is not. Her durability isnt good enough to put herself outside of an Erza tier slayer's oneshot range.

None of your points hold any water. Erza isnt as strong as Natsu at using POF. She can't replicate his feats against Zeref, which wouldn't even be enough to beat Acno. Acno is immune to magic, meaning slayer advantage is useless. When Laxus, Erza's equal, tried to punch Acno with DS, Acno just told him magic doesn't work. Surprise attack don't matter if your defenses are passive, and Acno's are. Heck, Acno can be sleeping and still survive any magical attack that comes his way. You need to be as physically strong as Igneel to stand a chance at seriously hurting Acno, and no human is.

 

[sharkai]

Yea, I do. Or at least no real life machine would blow up like that getting their circuits fried. Try shorting out an old computer with a taser. And we see what happened to Wall....he didnt blow up. His head and spine was ripped from his torso by the punch.

• It's a fact you're just ignoring.
• She's still not Natsu, and Natsu wouldnt be able to kill Acno anyways.
• Brandish aint Lucy tier, and didnt kill him. And dragon Acno is not August lol.
• Yes, Erza had a slayer advantage. We've gone over this before. The god dragons durability are so high that it outweighs their vulnerability to dragon slaying magic. Mercphobia and Igneel can tank shots from IgNatsu and Acnologia, both of which are dragon slayers.steonger than them.

None of your points hold any water. Erza isnt as strong as Natsu at using POF. She can't replicate his feats against Zeref, which wouldn't even be enough to beat Acno. Acno is immune to magic, meaning slayer advantage is useless. When Laxus, Erza's equal, tried to punch Acno with DS, Acno just told him magic doesn't work. Surprise attack don't matter if your defenses are passive, and Acno's are. Heck, Acno can be sleeping and still survive any magical attack that comes his way.

capacitor blowing. i think i have seen transformer and machines going boom.
- yeah i know, i am ok with it
-but i am giving erza two more things
-brandish attack was lucy teir. august survived because of plot.
-you made that up, with very little information, might i add. dragons and dragon god are same spieces. only human are starting to calll them dragon gods. they are nothing more than very strong dragons. dragon form multiplier would be same for all dragons. you want 10 20 tiers between human selene and human eileen, sure no problem. but if someone human level eileen can one shot dragon eileen than same applies to selene. easier explanation would have been just like erza is nowhere near max natus pof, laxus nor jellal nor gildarts (maybe) are no where near max erza pof

stop giving acno more advantage. removing his passive defence too. we are trying to one shot him here.

 

[Axiomus]

capacitor blowing. i think i have seen transformer and machines going boom.
- yeah i know, i am ok with it
-but i am giving erza two more things
-brandish attack was lucy teir. august survived because of plot.
-you made that up, with very little information, might i add. dragons and dragon god are same spieces. only human are starting to calll them dragon gods. they are nothing more than very strong dragons. dragon form multiplier would be same for all dragons. you want 10 20 tiers between human selene and human eileen, sure no problem. but if someone human level eileen can one shot dragon eileen than same applies to selene. easier explanation would have been just like erza is nowhere near max natus pof, laxus nor jellal nor gildarts (maybe) are no where near max erza pof

stop giving acno more advantage. removing his passive defence too. we are trying to one shot him here.

It makes you wrong.

No it wasnt. Brandish's attack power is way above Lucy's. August survived because he transformed.

I didn't make anything up. It's an observation. Igneel can tank attacks from Acno, and Mercphobia can tank attacks from IgNatsu. They are tanking attacks from slayers stronger than themselves, which means their durability outweighs their vulnerability to slayer magic. And nope. Nobody says that if you can beat someone's human.form, that means you must be able to oneshot their dragon form. Selene's human form could just be much weaker in proportion to her dragon form. Doesn't change the fact their dragon form can tank shots from slayers of their level.

Lol. I'm telling you, there's nobody in the series that can beat dragon Acno. He was literally written to be unbeatable in fair fight. That's why the final arc had to pull so many coincidences to beat him

 

[sharkai]

It makes you wrong.

maybe but i am telling you that i am ignoring it. for hypothetical scenario we can do that

No it wasnt. Brandish's attack power is way above Lucy's. August survived because he transformed.

it was just a butter knife. lucy can most likely can get do that level of attack

I didn't make anything up. It's an observation. Igneel can tank attacks from Acno, and Mercphobia can tank attacks from IgNatsu. They are tanking attacks from slayers stronger than themselves, which means their durability outweighs their vulnerability to slayer magic. And nope. Nobody says that if you can beat someone's human.form, that means you must be able to oneshot their dragon form. Selene's human form could just be much weaker in proportion to her dragon form. Doesn't change the fact their dragon form can tank shots from slayers of their level.

what you are making up is eileen vulnerability.

Lol. I'm telling you, there's nobody in the series that can beat dragon Acno. He was literally written to be unbeatable in fair fight. That's why the final arc had to pull so many coincidences to beat him

maybe, but i am not interested in acno. i am basically talking about acno tier. and asking if ome has tyhese three advantages over this said acno tier, he or she should be able to one shot him, or do significant damage.