Chapter Tower of God Chapter 514 Spoilers & Discussion

The one waiting is...

  • The Lo Po Bia Head

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • Adori

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Another Lo Po Bia

    Votes: 12 14.6%
  • Another Family Head

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • Some strong Shinheuh

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Rachel

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yama's dad

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Maschenny

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Total voters
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English translated chapter ----
I know it's written chapter 513 but it's chapter 514,chack it out
 

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Wangnan is awesome in the same sentence if there's shit between them.
He lacks the charisma and power to be an MC. While he doesn't have this unbrearable and dreamy personnality like most Shonen MCs, he's also ridiculized most of times. So, not a good candidate to play a central role of an arc.
 

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ToG has a great deal of amazing characters, like Yuri, Urek, Maschenny, etc, so I don't mind if the author makes of focus on one of them (that isn't Wangnan) for a little while but ToG without Baam is no longer ToG.
Character-wise, so far i feel urek just some hiphop/rapper guy who happens to be irregular.

He lacks the charisma and power to be an MC. While he doesn't have this unbrearable and dreamy personnality like most Shonen MCs, he's also ridiculized most of times. So, not a good candidate to play a central role of an arc.
Wangnan? Compared to bam, i seriously think wangnan has much much more charisma and leadership material potential than this weakass timid bam.

To put it simply bam is either the emotionless badass viole, or the emotionally unstable crybaby bam
 

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Tell me more of how you deem wangnan to be much much more of a garbage than bam?
They can’t lol Wangnan is a more marure Baam who saw much more shit than him but the problem is that he is weak .
 

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Why spell user? IIRC only their sister was good at this. Vicente was better at defense and Hoaqin at offense.
Just a guess, but based on the conversation and the foreshadowing of him reading a book on spells.
 
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I swore Vincent was some kid in the Koon family, his hair is very light.

By the translation, this flashback of White doesn't make sense, if Vincent studied the spell and their conversation takes place before they live white, why the hell was he fooled the second time on the train from hell?

It's always nice to have Hwa Ryun in the story, it gives the impression that the real business is about to start.
 

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It’s just me or siu changed white hoagin backstory again just to make Vicente take the main role and be a companion ? Because now Vicente was reading books to master spells and apparently he could even be the one to control the demon? How convenient.
Also where are all the people who were defending khun and rak power up saying they not ranker level ? Here they are teaming up with ascensio, aria who are both HR.

Edit: btw baam is off like always. So all the training he endured 2 years was for him to pass out after a fight and receiving white bug power up when he had the sun but bugs AA and Rak can take HR bug power.
It's was shown since Vicente first appeared that he has knowledge about spell and the demon inside white like on the hell train he was about to become white but it's had turned out that the demon had only gave hoaquin the right to be white
 

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He lacks the charisma and power to be an MC. While he doesn't have this unbrearable and dreamy personnality like most Shonen MCs, he's also ridiculized most of times. So, not a good candidate to play a central role of an arc.
Come on Baaam has no charisma too .
 

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Tell me more of how you deem wangnan to be much much more of a garbage than bam?
Well you have read tog so you would already understand what kind of garbage wagnan is he is worse than bam dude remember how much he cried on the 20th floor he beg and said he would even lick viole shoes if he can climb the tower with him he would be his dog
 
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He has some charisma of an mc like deku, kaneki, eren,Ichigo
Sorry but no , Deku charisma is very little and Ichigo has some .

you can try to compare his charisma to data jahad , Urek .
 

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I think we shouldn’t jump to conclusions and assume that SIU is already moving on and going to the next part of the nest. Yama and Yasratcha will definitely be finished on screen, it’s too big to be sidelined. For Lyborick vs Kallavan, I see a possible situation of it being shown as a flashback with Lyborick beating Kallavan and appearing to stop the main crew from rescuing Jinsung. Now for my own personal opinions about Bam, I find him very likeable. It’s a fresh break from standard shounen mc’s like wangnan who are overly nice, no faults, want to be king or what not and funny and weak (but with a secret heritage) all these shenanigans. Bam is different, and whether you like that different is up to you.

Plus I Don’t really know why some of y’all think SIU hates Bam when he’s the main character that SIU’s plot revolves around. Why would an author write or develop a plot around a character he does not like ? If that’s the case, then it makes for a unsustainable story unless there are radical changes which SIU probably wouldn’t risk considering the complaints of Bam come from the global audience rather than the Korean. Furthermore, the Koreans love Bam because they love OP mcs (Sung Jin Woo from Solo Leveling for eg), so I think he’s staying. However SIU is probably taking Bam out of action for a while. The tower of god youtubers have been saying that the story is too focused on Bam, so he probably predicted such a reaction might occur. But don’t get your hopes up, he ain’t staying out of commission for that long lol. Im actually interested in what you guys wish Bam was like instead ? If you hate him so much, then there must be dozen of ways to improve his character.
 

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Kaneki has way more Charisma than Baam .
 

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They can’t lol Wangnan is a more marure Baam who saw much more shit than him but the problem is that he is weak .
Come on man wagnan more mature than bam seriously wagnan has an child like personality and always make stupid decisions while bam has always had a more grown up personality always think before doing something like even evankhell commented how much bam is mature
 

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Well you have read tog so would already undress what kind of garbage wagnan is he is worse than bam dude remember how much he cried on the 20th floor he beg and said he would even lick viole shoes if he can climb the tower which him he would be his dog
Well it is true that Wangnan also had that pathetic side .
 

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Kaneki has way more Charisma than Baam .
Their are same kaneki was also a boring mc at the start always like reading books have a naive and stupid personality after being tortured he then become interesting
 

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So I saw the Korean Community's comment. They're currently on fire not because of the pacing or possible scene switches. But because of the setting error. Idk about it completely, but it seems like the dialogue between Vicente and Hoaquin takes place in the hell train rather than the setting presented.
 

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Always a fan of the big, macro shots - Snek Tower/Nest, and the Arie Floor


I think we shouldn’t jump to conclusions and assume that SIU is already moving on and going to the next part of the nest. Yama and Yasratcha will definitely be finished on screen, it’s too big to be sidelined. For Lyborick vs Kallavan, I see a possible situation of it being shown as a flashback with Lyborick beating Kallavan and appearing to stop the main crew from rescuing Jinsung. Now for my own personal opinions about Bam, I find him very likeable. It’s a fresh break from standard shounen mc’s like wangnan who are overly nice, no faults, want to be king or what not and funny and weak (but with a secret heritage) all these shenanigans. Bam is different, and whether you like that different is up to you.

Plus I Don’t really know why some of y’all think SIU hates Bam when he’s the main character that SIU’s plot revolves around. Why would an author write or develop a plot around a character he does not like ? If that’s the case, then it makes for a unsustainable story unless there are radical changes which SIU probably wouldn’t risk considering the complaints of Bam come from the global audience rather than the Korean. Furthermore, the Koreans love Bam because they love OP mcs (Sung Jin Woo from Solo Leveling for eg), so I think he’s staying. However SIU is probably taking Bam out of action for a while. The tower of god youtubers have been saying that the story is too focused on Bam, so he probably predicted such a reaction might occur. But don’t get your hopes up, he ain’t staying out of commission for that long lol. Im actually interested in what you guys wish Bam was like instead ? If you hate him so much, then there must be dozen of ways to improve his character.
Welcome. Plenty of explanation has been offered to address your second paragraph though. Someone so new might not be aware of the gripes whether the have merit or not.
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So I saw the Korean Community's comment. They're currently on fire not because of the pacing or possible scene switches. But because of the setting error. Idk about it completely, but it seems like the dialogue between Vicente and Hoaquin takes place in the hell train rather than the setting presented.
Yeah, that is a flashback.

The trans is incomplete.

Further, it just seems SIU pivoted - I see no reason to believe he off-screened every fight we had going, or fight we had coming.
 
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