Chapter Tower of God Chapter 514 Spoilers & Discussion

The one waiting is...

  • The Lo Po Bia Head

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • Adori

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Another Lo Po Bia

    Votes: 12 14.6%
  • Another Family Head

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • Some strong Shinheuh

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • Rachel

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Yama's dad

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Maschenny

    Votes: 6 7.3%
  • Someone else

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .

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English translated chapter ----
I know it's written chapter 513 but it's chapter 514,chack it out
 

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He never addressed the 8th son LOL! And it was never stated anywhere that the 8th son is a Branch Leader.


His Shinheuh is the Symbol of the 20th Branch. So as its Anima, he's in all likelihood, the head of that Branch.
 

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Regarding the poll, I voted for the LPB FH, but I wanted to make a case for Adori Zahard as well. I think it would be pretty strange if the portal Lyborick was guarding was the Lo Po Bia one.

Lyborick is strongly suggested to be on his ship, which comes from Z's Army. Why the LPB portal, which has been connected to the Nest since Ancient Times and is on a place not even Lefav or Yas know about, would be inside Lyborick's ship and be guarded by Lyborick out of all people?

Not to mention, if that's the LPB portal, then Evankhell and Kallavan will go to the exact same place. I find this a bit unlikely as well and Lyborick would need to have a strong backup to be able to hold his ground.

All the questions and strange things get perfectly answered if you assume that the portal Lyborick is guarding is not the one that leads to the LPB Mothership, but one that leads to the main stronghold of the Zahard Empire. While if it is the LPB one, it's all very very strange.

Adori at the same time also has reasons to oppose Baam's story (she's a Zahard fanatic) and should be someone Maschenny can't handle even if she wants to.

There's a set-up from the Three Orders:

1. Destroy FUG: Some really important figures are on the Nest (Slayers and Elders).

2. Destroy the Regulars riding the Hell Train: The main people targeted are all at the Nest (above all, Baam is there).

3. Destroy the Po Bidau Family (hidden): Po Bidau Lyborick Khun exists.

She could be appearing at the Nest to fulfil content from the Three Orders simultaneously.

I still think "The One in a High Place" portrayal fits more for the FH than it does for Adori, but I also believe Adori showing up has a pretty legitimate basis and reasoning (even if at the end of the day it's all headcanon).
 
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So, why show LPBFH castle if he's not going to be relevant in this arc, if only at the end. Either way, don't most agree he's on his way?
I expect an appearance like Adult Zahard. A larger than life figure that shows up in the post arc climax who our heroes have no hope of defeating.


I don't think that's the case. IIRC the exact translations of the panels above were different in meaning than what LINE has come up with.
Here's what Pajaka (the guy who sources the text translations) got for that panel:
Your anger will lead you to the battlefield.

And you'll come back to me as an even bigger tide, bigger than any i've seen before.

The bigger the tide, the better it feels when I crush it.
 

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His Shinheuh is the Symbol of the 20th Branch. So as its Anima, he's in all likelihood, the head of that Branch.
We’ll soon find out. Just make sure to own up to being wrong when it is revealed! As will I, if it is Mas!
 

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Sooo… the hybrider is irrevelant now ?
I was really hyped now it looks like he is obselete
 

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Regarding the poll, I voted for the LPB FH, but I wanted to make a case for Adori Zahard as well. I think it would be pretty strange if the portal Lyborick was guarding was the Lo Po Bia one.

Lyborick is strongly suggested to be on his ship, which comes from Z's Army. Why the LPB portal, which has been connected to the Nest since Ancient Times and is on a place not even Lefav or Yas know about, would be inside Lyborick's ship and be guarded by Lyborick out of all people?

Not to mention, if that's the LPB portal, then Evankhell and Kallavan will go to the exact same place. I find this a bit unlikely as well and Lyborick would need to have a strong backup to be able to hold his ground.

All the questions and strange things get perfectly answered if you assume that the portal Lyborick is guarding is not the one that leads to the LPB Mothership, but one that leads to the main stronghold of the Zahard Empire. While if it is the LPB one, it's all very very strange.

Adori at the same time also has reasons to oppose Baam's story (she's a Zahard fanatic) and should be someone Maschenny can't handle even if she wants to.

There's a set-up from the Three Orders:

1. Destroy FUG: Some really important figures are on the Nest (Slayers and Elders).

2. Destroy the Regulars riding the Hell Train: The main people targeted are all at the Nest (above all, Baam is there).

3. Destroy the Po Bidau Family (hidden): Po Bidau Lyborick Khun exists. (edited)

I still think "The One in a High Place" portrayal fits more for the FH than it does for Adori, but I also believe Adori showing up has a pretty legitimate basis and reasoning (even if at the end of the day it's all headcanon).
Lyb is not in his ship! He’s beside the Portal in an open area with a sky! His ship may be docked nearby!
 

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Sooo… the hybrider is irrevelant now ?
I was really hyped now it looks like he is obselete
Who are you talking about?
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I expect an appearance like Adult Zahard. A larger than life figure that shows up in the post arc climax who our heroes have no hope of defeating.



Here's what Pajaka (the guy who sources the text translations) got for that panel:
Zahard is a giant only Bloodmadder is taller than him. I doubt the LPB Head can look more imposing.
 

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Regarding the poll, I voted for the LPB FH, but I wanted to make a case for Adori Zahard as well. I think it would be pretty strange if the portal Lyborick was guarding was the Lo Po Bia one.

Lyborick is strongly suggested to be on his ship, which comes from Z's Army. Why the LPB portal, which has been connected to the Nest since Ancient Times and is on a place not even Lefav or Yas know about, would be inside Lyborick's ship and be guarded by Lyborick out of all people?

Not to mention, if that's the LPB portal, then Evankhell and Kallavan will go to the exact same place. I find this a bit unlikely as well and Lyborick would need to have a strong backup to be able to hold his ground.

All the questions and strange things get perfectly answered if you assume that the portal Lyborick is guarding is not the one that leads to the LPB Mothership, but one that leads to the main stronghold of the Zahard Empire. While if it is the LPB one, it's all very very strange.

Adori at the same time also has reasons to oppose Baam's story (she's a Zahard fanatic) and should be someone Maschenny can't handle even if she wants to.

There's a set-up from the Three Orders:

1. Destroy FUG: Some really important figures are on the Nest (Slayers and Elders).

2. Destroy the Regulars riding the Hell Train: The main people targeted are all at the Nest (above all, Baam is there).

3. Destroy the Po Bidau Family (hidden): Po Bidau Lyborick Khun exists. (edited)

I still think "The One in a High Place" portrayal fits more for the FH than it does for Adori, but I also believe Adori showing up has a pretty legitimate basis and reasoning (even if at the end of the day it's all headcanon).
Adori isn't waiting for Baam at all, let alone behind the Third Wall. As far as we know, Lyborick's ship is not located behind the Third Wall. If Adori came through the portal, she wouldn't be behind the Third Wall.

This scenario — for Adori at least — is impossible.
 

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Lol BLs are not strong.
Every Branch Leader is suggested to be a Top 300 for the very least (and possibly Top 200 given Lefav was sure to become one after supposedly killing Evankhell and said that now that she would be a Top 200, she'd surely be a Branch Leader). Unless each and every single one of them is an exception that belongs to a special position (like Evan Edrok), then they should stand on a whole another level from all the High Rankers below them (minus exceptions yet again).

There are LPB Branches without a BL lol, it’s clearly not important!
Yeah? Which relevant Branch that hasn't been absorbed doesn't have a Branch Leader?

Lefav is one lol,
IIRC she was the representative, not the Branch Leader.

that rapping monkey was the next closest thing for his or her branch!
Didiano is an Advanced Ranker whose branch got absorbed by another Branch a long time ago according to him.

If they BL’s were soo strong and important they wouldn’t of been sent to the FRONTLINE!!!
Besides Dokoko, no Branch Leader has been sent to the frontlines. I also fail to see how is this relevant to gauge their strength.
  • Dokoko was introduced as one of the most powerful warriors of the Lo Po Bia Family.
  • Every Branch Leader worth their salt has been suggested to be a Top 300 for the very least, and possibly a Top 200. They can be above this as well, as there's no strict rule that says all of them should be similar in power (frankly speaking, I think it's silly to expect that).
  • Evankhell said every Top 300 minus exceptions stands on a whole another level from the Rankers below them and are expected to solo a Leaderless Squadron decisively.
So yes, Branch Leaders are strong. Very strong, even for High Ranker standards.
 

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Who are you talking about?
so many big things are happening here and I don’t think baam is going to fight the hybrider at all or if he does he will probably kill it (even if he is tired and nerfed) so I don’t see a oportunity to fight this thing for baam
 

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Zahard is a giant only Bloodmadder is taller than him. I doubt the LPB Head can look more imposing.
I meant his debut, not his physical appearance.

Sooo… the hybrider is irrevelant now ?
I was really hyped now it looks like he is obselete
Not irrelevant, but it was never going to fight Baam; Maschenny saw to that.
 

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Lyb is not in his ship! He’s beside the Portal in an open area with a sky! His ship may be docked nearby!
He's suggested to be on his ship. When McCage talked about Kallavan reaching Lyborick, his ship was shown. There's nothing so far that suggests he moved. Even the battle between Yas, Yama and Doom is happening on the main flagship of the 5th Army Corp.

It also makes little sense (or should I say it's extremely strange?) that he's the one guarding the LPB portal and knows the exact location when not even Lefav or Yas know about it.

Adori isn't waiting for Baam at all, let alone behind the Third Wall. As far as we know, Lyborick's ship is not located behind the Third Wall. If Adori came through the portal, she wouldn't be behind the Third Wall.

This scenario — for Adori at least — is impossible.
As far as we know she isn't (we also don't know where Lybo's ship is either), but we already discussed this on Discord. I don't expect this person to be literally behind the 3rd Wall yet (assuming it's the same real enemy Maschenny spoke of, which IMO is not unlikely at all given the context). The statement can still make sense if LPB Head/Adori (assuming they're the ones) are waiting for him inside the portal and are meant to teleport behind the 3rd Wall once Baam reaches his final destination.
 

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Not irrelevant, but it was never going to fight Baam; Maschenny saw to that.
So who is gonna get rid of this ?
Personnaly I think either the 3rd minion (I doubt but this is possible)
Either eeeeeh…. Idk
 

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The statement can still make sense if LPB Head/Adori (assuming they're the ones) are waiting for him inside the portal and are meant to teleport behind the 3rd Wall once Baam reaches his final destination.
No, Lyborick's ship isn't behind the Third Wall. We don't know where Lyborick's ship is, but we know it's not behind the Third Wall. We've been shown behind the Third Wall, and it's just Maschenny, the Frozen Waterfall and the Snake.

If Adori teleports to Lyborick's ship she wouldn't appear behind the Third Wall.

This scenario is just impossible. It's not a matter of literally waiting behind the Third Wall or waiting in front of a portal, Lyborick's portal simply doesn't lead to Maschenny's location.




So who is gonna get rid of this ?
Personnaly I think either the 3rd minion (I doubt but this is possible)
Either eeeeeh…. Idk
Nah, Maschenny released the Hybrider to cause chaos and kek Zahard/FUG's forces. She wouldn't remove it herself.

Maybe Cha fights it. Maybe it interrupts Yama vs Yasratcha.
 

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Behind the third wall is the heart of the Nest. If the Lo Po Bia family has more than two brain cells, they'll put their portal in the most secure place of their base; behind the third wall.

No need to be a genius to understand that Jinsung is talking about the FH. Because if Bam makes it to the center of the Nest, that means the army failed and it's time for the FH to step in.

That or it's another fraud like the dark change.
 

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No, Lyborick's ship isn't behind the Third Wall.
How so? It was said the ship was near the Third Defensive Wall, so it could fit to be behind.

Actually, I just checked the location (beforehand I wasn't sure if it had been said or not) and it makes perfect sense that the ship could be behind the 3rd Defensive Wall. The only thing it was said regarding the location was that it was near the Defensive Wall Yas was guarding (which was the 3rd one). It could have been either in front or behind, the exact location is never specified, other than it's near.
 
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I agree. It makes Baam look like a putz and a child, but it won't surprise me at all.
so maschenny won't meet with baam again lmao.
 

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I’d like to believe a FH is waiting behind the wall, since the LPB family head is the only one who’s name isn’t known and it would be a good introduction, also the nest is one of his favourite places and lastly because he would be the perfect soldier to put a young irregular out of his misery, since it took Baams all to defeat White who was close to Squadron Commander level, the matter of which would’ve been utterly trivial to a FH. But I have a feeling he’s on his way if he isn’t already there. But I also think it might be Adori since out of everyone in the tower she would want to test Baams mettle herself, since he was the only person to defeat a Ranker as a Regular besides her (although without a doubt Urek had the same capability) so she probably wants to test him I feel her of all people would’ve heard the news of this achievement immediately.
 

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He's suggested to be on his ship. When McCage talked about Kallavan reaching Lyborick, his ship was shown. There's nothing so far that suggests he moved. Even the battle between Yas, Yama and Doom is happening on the main flagship of the 5th Army Corp.

It also makes little sense (or should I say it's extremely strange?) that he's the one guarding the LPB portal and knows the exact location when not even Lefav or Yas know about it.
Lefav, Dokoko, Didano, we’re under Lyb’s command. Lyb commanded the 1st Wall, so yes it makes sense Lyb knows where the portal is! Yas was fibbing, he knows exactly where EVK wants to go, he mentioned it in his conversation with McCage, when YHS entered Evk’s map!
 
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