Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...
Yas and Yama are stalling when the FH shows up he is gonna capture yama for more experiments, he seems bored enough to do that, yas and Yama aren't going all out for some reason just alot of smirking smh, just give me Yama full transformation before things go sideways.
next up bam is acting weird if he wanted to kill white outright why bother with the absorb plan? he could've killed him multiple times straight up, so why is he fussing really? It doesn't matter much cause white won't be threat again, but hints of him coming back were planted but you never know he might go away for real.
Adori still wants straight up war with a great family, than killing fug or bam I'm sure anyone with brains, knows killing bam completes the order the other regulars are icing at best, plus a FH trying to get involved in this conflict voluntarily to fight another FH, so gustang is definitely showing up since he is smartest out of the bunch and he wants a war as well, knows everything and is watching somewhere.
Bam wanted to completely broke white absorbing is power is like the greatest humiliation white can got him who usually absorb people power now his own power has been absorbed by someone else judging the fact that hoaquin had got a mental breakdown to the point he gone hiding inside of himself show that bam had successfully defeated white
I'm aware of that,but there is a possibility that this was also made up by Zahard,because there is a real chance that Wangnan is his kid. Oh well I guess we will find out.
There is plenty of hint of it siu say that none of the prince of the red light district has zahard blood there just got some power that there shouldn't from zahard if there were zahard child there would probably have his blood and hwa ryun say there are the greatest mistake of zahard and the ten great families and Rachel say zahard fatal weakness that he tried to hide and the fact that there all seem to look a lot like zahard and act like him in some ways
She just tell bam that there is more important things than fighting white right now like for example savings his damn master!! she just told bam he can take his revenge later she is right though
How i understand this is that adori was given an order and she is following it. In a way this is a continuation of the battle at the final station....
Also, there is a caveat in the order. Iirc the order was to destroy the po bidao family... but depending on how you look at it that doesn't necessarily have to include gustang, who is invincible as far as the zahard and lpb family is concerned. The zahard family is stronger than the po bidao family and if you add the lo po bia family then thats actually an important edge over them.
Ofc zahard military is stronger than PB family, but again NO IRREGULAR, like i said if zahard not act by himself then who will face gustang in battlefield?? No one
No matter how strong military they ar still no match again gustang, do u think a few squadron commander can match up again gustang??
Here the example, do u think if kallavan + yas + lyborick work together to fight gustang they can win again him??
NO, number isnt the problem here
Forget the number, gustang would anihilate military by himself (if they dont have irregular ranker in their side)
It's stated that Ari hon is second after zahard dude he is top 5 previously top 4 before urek appearance top 3 before phantaminum appearance top 2 before enryu so yeah he is without a doubt the most powerful family head
No guys i think you misunderstand what asensio says to aguero.
What i think is they (the zahard army + po bia fams) using Lyboric for a cloud. Since he is po bidau and if something goes wrong they can call it Po Bidau family treason in real action.
Because it will make a real the damage for the zahard army especially po bia family (since they the one who in charges) and they will get an excuse to attack po bidao family (not just because gustang taking rachel and say he want a war).
(Zahard still want to play like a good guy that's why they need a reason)
To be honest when the war start i was wondering why someone from po bidau in the highest charge (since they already got that 3 orders from the altars). He even have a straight recommendation from adori.
Now all clear, adori want a war. That's how to play it
Since first, they want to make a really big failure with the 4th squadron (sorry I'm not common in this kind military seting) failed their mission and replace with a new one by Lyboric, using the 5th squadron to just basically lost by using the weird game (will be Lyboric fault to). And no one will blame po bia family because they already provide the nest the best place to start a war.
So, the first gate (with Lyboric) will be the entrance for po bia family head and the one inside the cat tower will be the entrance for po bia secret attacks to eliminate the new 4th squadron + 5th squadron and if they can they will eliminate fug to and go like nothing happens while they blame it to Lyboric as the head of this war.
As for bam disposal i think they will kill him but not in the nest, that's why he still alive until now. Like what mascheny tell jinsung before "they want him to die but all their plan doesn't match"
I don't know what mascheny want from khun AA (i have a feeling it's about maria or something like stealing the treasure), but i think Lyboric work with her in this sh*t. He still a khun to, maybe he's the one who tell asensio about the order and the wraps gate (if this the case, that's mean asensio doesn't tell all he know to AA).
But Lyboric doesn't look like someone who just sit around if he know he being used~
Or it just me who overthink everything and misunderstood the story
Ofc zahard military is stronger than PB family, but again NO IRREGULAR, like i said if zahard not act by himself then who will face gustang in battlefield?? No one
No matter how strong military they ar still no match again gustang, do u think a few squadron commander can match up again gustang??
Here the example, do u think if kallavan + yas + lyborick work together to fight gustang they can win again him??
NO, number isnt the problem here
Forget the number, gustang would anihilate military by himself (if they dont have irregular ranker in their side)
It's stated that Ari hon is second after zahard dude he is top 5 previously top 4 before urek appearance top 3 before phantaminum appearance top 2 before enryu so yeah he is without a doubt the most powerful family head
I cant wait for Baam to get his ass whooped again by enemies that should be below White's tier.
Seeing him struggle in any upcoming fight even with normal Rankers.
Like SIU literally reduced the amount of people that can even put a decent fight with him to less than 100 characters but he will manage to humilliate Baam somehow.
I hope Baam can muster up enough spine to be extremely uncooperative with regards to whatever the schemers around him are about to get up to in the coming chapters. He really needs to stop allowing other people to tell him what to do all the time.
You mean he should be able to judge if the plan is good or not and decide to abide by it based on that instead of doing it blindly unless you think Bam himself can think of his own plan which I doubt as his never been a strategising type of guy.
You mean he should be able to judge if the plan is good or not and decide to abide by it based on that instead of doing it blindly unless you think Bam himself can think of his own plan which I doubt as his never been a strategising type of guy.
He can generally just wing it and things will still work out for him. It's happened several times in the past. I'd rather have him make some missteps now and again over acting like some leashed follower. He shouldn't have to be diminished for the sake of letting people like Koon shine at his expense.
To paraphrase Ryuji Goda, a real man ought to be a little stupid. Scheming fucks can never stand on top. That's why Zahard is the king and Gustang isn't.
(Yes, I just finished a run of Kiwami 2 yesterday morning).
No guys i think you misunderstand what asensio says to aguero.
What i think is they (the zahard army + po bia fams) using Lyboric for a cloud. Since he is po bidau and if something goes wrong they can call it Po Bidau family treason in real action.
Because it will make a real the damage for the zahard army especially po bia family (since they the one who in charges) and they will get an excuse to attack po bidao family (not just because gustang taking rachel and say he want a war).
(Zahard still want to play like a good guy that's why they need a reason)
To be honest when the war start i was wondering why someone from po bidau in the highest charge (since they already got that 3 orders from the altars). He even have a straight recommendation from adori.
Now all clear, adori want a war. That's how to play it
Since first, they want to make a really big failure with the 4th squadron (sorry I'm not common in this kind military seting) failed their mission and replace with a new one by Lyboric, using the 5th squadron to just basically lost by using the weird game (will be Lyboric fault to). And no one will blame po bia family because they already provide the nest the best place to start a war.
So, the first gate (with Lyboric) will be the entrance for po bia family head and the one inside the cat tower will be the entrance for po bia secret attacks to eliminate the new 4th squadron + 5th squadron and if they can they will eliminate fug to and go like nothing happens while they blame it to Lyboric as the head of this war.
As for bam disposal i think they will kill him but not in the nest, that's why he still alive until now. Like what mascheny tell jinsung before "they want him to die but all their plan doesn't match"
I don't know what mascheny want from khun AA (i have a feeling it's about maria or something like stealing the treasure), but i think Lyboric work with her in this sh*t. He still a khun to, maybe he's the one who tell asensio about the order and the wraps gate (if this the case, that's mean asensio doesn't tell all he know to AA).
But Lyboric doesn't look like someone who just sit around if he know he being used~
Or it just me who overthink everything and misunderstood the story
Bam wanted to completely broke white absorbing is power is like the greatest humiliation white can got him who usually absorb people power now his own power has been absorbed by someone else judging the fact that hoaquin had got a mental breakdown to the point he gone hiding inside of himself show that bam had successfully defeated white
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Wagnan, karaka and perhaps the boss is zahard clone not child
That what I thought as well but way he reacted, it's more than taking his powers bam was after his life too, seem like he would attack Vincent if Hwa didn't interrupt to focus on the current situation, if his goal was to kill white and not humiliate him, then he would have ended him the orb powered Meteor shower before he grabbed the sword that attack could've killed white, just the look of his face screamed death and how surprised he was that after that attack.
Siu is trying to not let bam look inept imo, after displaying such powers and still failed to kill white and just came up with a cop-out/loophole explanation, but the only reason I can think of is that Siu didn't want to break the spell in a way that he has to waste time managing all the clones again, cause the last time white lost this much power didn't he spit up or was that specific for the train? Plus bam has antispell software surprised he didn't break white spell fighting him directly with his spell fully active.
Tbh white fighting bam at this point was strange, no matter what happened he screwed win or lose, so I thought Siu just wanted to kill off the character completely, that dynamic is over once bam is stronger, Vincent is too smart to do anything stupid or let white take control for a long time, so why not let bam kill him or erase his existence.
Vincent doesn't look child like as before just shorter, so did bam absorb just haoqin powers only and the clones have a decent amount of strength? Seems likely Vincent acted like he could attack bam even with asencio there, so Vincent should have 30% of white strength to atleast to pull that off.
It's stated he is the most powerful family head and it's makes sense dude the arie family are seem to be the most powerful family only the ha and khun family can rivaling with them
No guys i think you misunderstand what asensio says to aguero.
What i think is they (the zahard army + po bia fams) using Lyboric for a cloud. Since he is po bidau and if something goes wrong they can call it Po Bidau family treason in real action.
Because it will make a real the damage for the zahard army especially po bia family (since they the one who in charges) and they will get an excuse to attack po bidao family (not just because gustang taking rachel and say he want a war).
(Zahard still want to play like a good guy that's why they need a reason)
To be honest when the war start i was wondering why someone from po bidau in the highest charge (since they already got that 3 orders from the altars). He even have a straight recommendation from adori.
Now all clear, adori want a war. That's how to play it
Since first, they want to make a really big failure with the 4th squadron (sorry I'm not common in this kind military seting) failed their mission and replace with a new one by Lyboric, using the 5th squadron to just basically lost by using the weird game (will be Lyboric fault to). And no one will blame po bia family because they already provide the nest the best place to start a war.
So, the first gate (with Lyboric) will be the entrance for po bia family head and the one inside the cat tower will be the entrance for po bia secret attacks to eliminate the new 4th squadron + 5th squadron and if they can they will eliminate fug to and go like nothing happens while they blame it to Lyboric as the head of this war.
As for bam disposal i think they will kill him but not in the nest, that's why he still alive until now. Like what mascheny tell jinsung before "they want him to die but all their plan doesn't match"
I don't know what mascheny want from khun AA (i have a feeling it's about maria or something like stealing the treasure), but i think Lyboric work with her in this sh*t. He still a khun to, maybe he's the one who tell asensio about the order and the wraps gate (if this the case, that's mean asensio doesn't tell all he know to AA).
But Lyboric doesn't look like someone who just sit around if he know he being used~
Or it just me who overthink everything and misunderstood the story
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But adori rank 7 in the tower
1. Phantaminium (i forgot)
2. Enryu
3. Zahard
4. Arie hon
5. Urek mazino
6. Khun eduan
7. Adori zahard and anna zahard
Winning a war doesn't mean kill gustang, they can just captured him because ofc he can't die..
So she can be cocky since she have a high rank in the tower
Rank is not everything, baek ryun is rank higher than half of FH , does that mean Baek ryun is stronger than FH??
Lepavuv rank 273 ,but the only reason her rank is so high that cause her 2 bullet, she even admitted that her other skill is weaker than average high ranker
Rank is not just by power,its also based on Influence and another thing, baek ryun is the owner of the 77th floor and also leader of wolhaiksong compared to Great family, his influence is so big compared to FH themselves,
Evankhell can climb up to rank #60 with her influence as floor owner , but once she got kicked her rank decrease below #100
Madoraco is a high ranker while karaka just become high ranker recently (he isnt high ranker before fight in last station)
Yet karaka could slap madoraco easily
Not to mention that ARI HAN (ARI Family head) ,is most likely just in top 30 or 40
Then its mean aside of irregular there is atleast 15 people stronger than ari han, which is not making sense since the strongest people is irregular
And luslec rank is higher than few fh including lpb fh and ARI fh, does that mean luslec is stronger than FH??
You mean he should be able to judge if the plan is good or not and decide to abide by it based on that instead of doing it blindly unless you think Bam himself can think of his own plan which I doubt as his never been a strategising type of guy.
It's has show at multiple times that bam can make plans like when the time he was searching for Deng Deng it's was him who made the plan to got Louie and deng Deng he is very smart when he wants
Well i have to agree with this the other times I can reason with sun not being active and the thorns size etc, but this time was the time to show what the thorns and sun could really do, making white look like a bug is cool but he needed to finish him off, escaping while stating he is mentally drained is light punishment.
If bam acted like this was his plan then fine, but act shocked that haoqin just fled instead raised too many questions or maybe the clone saved white by letting him release his grip on the sword before bam fully devour his consciousness too and that allowed him to get away, he only ended up giving up his power and control over the body, for a very long time.
Well i have to agree with this the other times I can reason with sun not being active and the thorns size etc, but this time was the time to show what the thorns and sun could really do, making white look like a bug is cool but he needed to finish him off, escaping while stating he is mentally drained is light punishment.
If bam acted like this was his plan then fine, but act shocked that haoqin just fled instead raised too many questions or maybe the clone saved white by letting him release his grip on the sword before bam fully devour his consciousness too and that allowed him to get away, he only ended up giving up his power and control over the body, for a very long time.
He also could have thrown a saving roll by just having Baam reach out and crush the 'new' White between his fingers in this chapter. It likely would not take much effort, considering he stole all of White's accumulated power. But instead he acted like a whipped dog the moment Mistress Hwa commanded him to heel.
In the end, it's a hard sell for me that SIU is trying to salvage Baam's credibility or that he even cares about it to begin with. It's clearly not more important to him than preserving some side character.
SIU makes a lot of unforced errors when it comes to his handling of Baam.
UNLESS there has been some backroom Shenanigan and SIU did a retcon the whole Princesses having kids with Zahard was just a Fraudulet Con Job. This statement hasn't be countered yet so it should still be true.
Wangnan AND Karaka most likely Clones of Zahard created by the workshop. Why? Zahard may have an immortality condition placed on him by the administrators, but after he saw phanta and Enryu dominate the Tower and its administrators, he probably began looking for alternatives. My guess is that if Jahad were to be somehow killed, his soul would migrate into Karak or Wagnan, and they would not be able to resist, the workshop would have made that the case.
White is still our only connection to the Arie Family. SIU couldn't have killed him off. Not without wasting all the chapters spent fleshing out his backstory.
And after that, SIU would need to spend several dozen more chapters to build up a new connection to the Arie Family.
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