Games Mafia Game 97 - Omoneko: Answer Arc - End Game

[Copy Panda]

The witch shall praise the wise and bestow four treasures. One shall be all the gold from the Golden Land. One shall be the resurrection of all the dead souls. One shall be the resurrection of the love that was lost. One shall be to put the witch to sleep for all time.

Post-game
End of Game Death Post
End of Game Winner Post
Updated OP
Night Actions Umi I + Night Actions Umi II
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[Baka Taichou]

How does priority work in this scenario?

Same night:

X uses his detective action
Y steals X's detective role
Z kills X.

Does X still get his result before getting his role stolen?
Does the stealing action have the same priority as kill or do they differ?

 

[Tatsumaki]

Could it be because i have done nothing? Never have i seen the Spy in action, so don't know if Hosts answer your claim with 'he has done nothing'. It's exactly what i have done. Nothing in 5 nights.

I didn't say you did nothing. I said the host gave me nothing. So I'm an illusion now.

No one says Nii is townie. Gry's death just confirms he's pirate but that's it. He might join you soon enough.

Votekill Shobu

 

[Gajeel]

oh my god, 1626 viewers

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Those goats are ready to tear apart Shobu.

 

[Tatsumaki]

How does priority work in this scenario?

Same night:

X uses his detective action
Y steals X's detective role
Z kills X.

Does X still get his result before getting his role stolen?
Does the stealing action have the same priority as kill or do they differ?

Yes I think since everything happens at the end of the night and investigation takes priority over killing/stealing.

Killing and stealing are both P3 (I just checked) so it's a coinflip matter I think.

 

[Baka Taichou]

How does priority work in this scenario?

Same night:

X uses his detective action
Y steals X's detective role
Z kills X.

Does X still get his result before getting his role stolen?
Does the stealing action have the same priority as kill or do they differ?

@Copy Panda @Purity of Magi @GB can you explain the above please?

 

[Tatsumaki]

1600 PEOPLE ARE READING MY POSTS ?
Now I feel shy...

 

[Gajeel]

How does priority work in this scenario?

Same night:

X uses his detective action
Y steals X's detective role
Z kills X.

Does X still get his result before getting his role stolen?
Does the stealing action have the same priority as kill or do they differ?

It's just like Tatsumaki says. Detective is priority 2, so he gets to know his result before dying. Then between Y and Z, it comes to a cointoss.

 

[Purity of Magi]

Those goats are ready to tear apart

 

[Shobu_Yoruichi]

Oh, we have 1603+ guests checking the thread, we are so popular.

Well Gry died as Townie so we know his role was stolen. Nii must've won the coinflip and stolen before Gry died (since both should be P3). Unless Gry was lying all along, there is no reason to doubt that Nii stole his role. Ofc that says nothing about his alliance (could be T or M. Pirate)

Why do you think a coinflip works in this case?
I have seen it only working in lynch votes :/

 

[Gajeel]

don't be shy Vindred -3-

 

[Baka Taichou]

Yes I think since everything happens at the end of the night and investigation takes priority over killing/stealing.

Killing and stealing are both P3 (I just checked) so it's a coinflip matter I think.

ok so I guess this would be the scenario that would work for Mafia pirate in this case:


honestly, I'be been weary of nii since d2, and since I learned he's pirate I've been more weary.


Nii is mafia pirate
N4 he steals Gry's role partner kills him, they gambled and when they saw he got confirmation of the role they put their scenario into play publicly stating that he stole his role.
Next night they do a an action on him to shatter him so he'd turn up as townie, confirming Nii's claim that he stole his role.


If this makes sense to someone else, I'm locking on Nii instead, I have been thinking this since he revealed pirate and stolen role from Gry, but since i wasn't sure and Shad was more obvious i postponed it.

Idk about the whole 2 avengers thing, one of them is sus (or both even? idk didn't read on avenger yet), but I think Nii is scum, and needs to be addressed.

 

[Shobu_Yoruichi]

Well, there is no more struggle here.

As i said in my first post today. It was a near-close impossible challenge to change your mind.

Votekill Nii

 

[Equaling Heaven]

investigation takes priority over killing/stealing

I said I targeted Gry. And I think Erin did too. We both dets afawk. Doesn't that mean we shattered him before his role could be stolen or am I wrong here? Could the pirate still steal the role from the player bcause his death wasn't yet announced? Det is P2 and pirate is P3.

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Nvm he was already robbed we just killed/shattered the man. My bad.

 

[Holt]

How does priority work in this scenario?

Same night:

X uses his detective action
Y steals X's detective role
Z kills X.

Does X still get his result before getting his role stolen?
Does the stealing action have the same priority as kill or do they differ?

Yes. Investigative is P2, so it will happen before pirating/death (p3).
Pirate and Kill are same priority, so a coinflip determines which happens first.

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Why do you think a coinflip works in this case?
I have seen it only working in lynch votes :/

Cos coinflip determines what happens with same priority actions? How else would you expect it to be done?

 

[Shobu_Yoruichi]

Yes. Investigative is P2, so it will happen before pirating/death (p3).
Pirate and Kill are same priority, so a coinflip determines which happens first.

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Cos coinflip determines what happens with same priority actions? How else would you expect it to be done?

Because i don't know about priorities Said it like 4 days ago.

 

[Belserion]

As cold as it sounds, I believe it's going to come down to your lynch sooner or later, because seeing how a single mafia team has been losing at least one member every single day since D2, I don't think they assumed they can afford to leave you hanging there in front of their win chances. But considering how today's looking, maybe tomorrow will bring something new to the table on better targets to lynch before it comes to that.

Yeah I know. I would have just preferred it to be somewhat beneficial to town. I just hate when something can easily be avoided yet is still allowed to happen. But I'm not gonna dwell on that. I think I've expressed my salt enough

Well Gry died as Townie so we know his role was stolen. Nii must've won the coinflip and stolen before Gry died (since both should be P3). Unless Gry was lying all along, there is no reason to doubt that Nii stole his role. Ofc that says nothing about his alliance (could be T or M. Pirate)

If Gry was lying he's probably Jesus but he would have pushed more fore Nii's lynch after the pirate reveal if that was the case I think.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Nii is mafia pirate
N4 he steals Gry's role partner kills him, they gambled and when they saw he got confirmation of the role they put their scenario into play publicly stating that he stole his role.
Next night they do a an action on him to shatter him so he'd turn up as townie, confirming Nii's claim that he stole his role.

Sounds plausible.
But I think someone said earlier that Nii could be checked/confirmed next night so we can always take care of him tomorrow.

 

[Equaling Heaven]

@Shobu_Yoruichi why didn't you picked a target that was most likely to die? So you could have a free kill next. I never saw avenger in play but it works like this right?

 

[Baka Taichou]

Sounds plausible.
But I think someone said earlier that Nii could be checked/confirmed next night so we can always take care of him tomorrow.

yea that's why i didn't vote him yet gonna wait for dets to check him tonight and depending on the results we can change to nii tomorrow

 

[Shobu_Yoruichi]

@Shobu_Yoruichi why didn't you picked a target that was most likely to die? So you could have a free kill next. I never saw avenger in play but it works like this right?

Because as it was one-hit ability in case of missing the shot, didn't want to take that risk.

I was a coward, but now i'm not I accept my death.