Games Mafia Game 97 - Omoneko: Answer Arc - End Game

[Copy Panda]

The witch shall praise the wise and bestow four treasures. One shall be all the gold from the Golden Land. One shall be the resurrection of all the dead souls. One shall be the resurrection of the love that was lost. One shall be to put the witch to sleep for all time.

Post-game
End of Game Death Post
End of Game Winner Post
Updated OP
Night Actions Umi I + Night Actions Umi II
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[digitaldude]

Something isn't adding up with Erin.

Hosts confirmed the mistake that Asako was an illusion from N1. Erin claims to have targeted Asako N2 (with no feedback apparently). Unless Erin was blocked, the only reason the host would not give her a response is if they knew Asako was already an illusion, however, that itself would mean Asako would shatter from that illusion. Fastforward a bit, Erin in N5 and N6 claims to have not gotten feedback again. Neither of her targets shattered so the implication again is either Erin is an illusion or she was blocked again. Problem is, Nii claims he investigated Erin N6 and got innocent while implies Erin is still alive (according to him). Considering he stole Gry's role, regardless of affiliation, we have to assume he is infact a detective of sorts rn. So The only explanation would be that Erin got blocked 3 times this game (for no reason????)

thats strange indeed. All the obvious mafia are dead now.

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I'm possibly sane det guys
investigated
-N1 gry got innocent confirmed innocent
- N2 Asako - > got escorted
-N3 James - got innocent - confirmed townie
- N4 -> got innocent - mafia boss appears innocent upon det investigation
- N5-> gajeel - got nothing (probably an illusion from N4)

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she could be death miller, or might have been recruited, if she was sleeper ?

hmmm

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Although maybe holt knows that erinyes was blocked and is using that to kill her.

 

[Maryxxi]

can i have an update on cinera's claim and targets?

nvm this question, i just checked holt's recap

 

[digitaldude]

only 4 hour lefts get in here now. @AwkwardMisha @Haya-san @Nii @Belserion @Erinyes @Maryxxi @Holt @Equaling Heaven @Vandred @James Rye @Mazino @Gajeel

 

[Maryxxi]

What about the scenario if holt turns town?

Mary is not suspicious in my eyes, unless after night 1 she was recruited by the Mentor and then night 2 killed Faust.

Wait, a second. There was also no curse on Shad!!! She said she would pick him! Either she would have been blocked or she picked and other target, or she's an illusion as well. Or as mentioned earlier recruited Mafia or TP...



Since the moment we killed hardy lovers were out of my mind tbh. It's more interesting to find out who killed Faust, but yeah, other lovers could been the blind spot here now.

about these scenarios, i m sure the right one is that i was blocked.

 

[AwkwardMisha]

I.m gettig lover vibes from dd and cinera lmao!

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I suggest lynching DD and see if cinera suicides, if cinera is his lover scum and then we see from there ))

Well, the constant tagging and waiting for each other's approval is a bit, let's call it interesting.

Now what amuses me the most is how DD backed down on his buddy detective claims, and even he finds the targets fairly odd.

well belserion got bombed. Haya san and awkward misha should be legit, I got guilty on haya-san. Gajeel was set up for killing lambu by demonspeed so he is probably legit. James rye is 100% townie. Vandred is likely townie. Nii took down shobu. Cinera all her investigative targets are really strange. so im only 90% sure of her being townie. Evil its tough to lie about all these results. Holt i'm not sure on but leaning towards townie. That leaves mazino, maryxxi, sakura and erinyes.

Either way, the fact that Cinera rarely replies to any suspicions brought up against him and leaves everything mostly un-answered still sometimes makes me want to question his allegiance

 

[digitaldude]

Also mazino is a doctor right, he never saved anyone whats up with that!

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vote kill holt for now.

 

[Holt]

thats strange indeed. All the obvious mafia are dead now.

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hmmm

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Although maybe holt knows that erinyes was blocked and is using that to kill her.

Uh? I do not know she was blocked. Just pointing it out. Evil did say he saw an investigation on Shad (supposedly from Erin).

I'm looking at Evil's results again, and is there anything we can see from there that isn't something that can be inferred?

N1 Sam -> nothing
N2 Marmalade -> N1 apprenticed
N3 Hardy -> N1 spied and cursed
N4 Lambu -> N1 recruited and killed, N2 protective action
N5 ??? -> no feedback?
N6 Shad -> Blocked N1 and investigation N4

I can't remember if Asako already mentioned she apprenticed Marm before Evil revealed this as well as Tatsu's spy result. I'm going to check this myself in a bit but if anyone can remember, then please help. Ultimately this is what will clear him (imo) and thus Erin by extension. Because Lambu's results is something that can be inferred. And there's that strange N2 protective action (didn't Farf say she protected N1 not N2? again can't recall). N5 with no feedback. When he posted Shad's result, he added iirc which sounded odd to me.

There's also the DD/EH/Mary business to think on.

 

[AwkwardMisha]

Talking about detectives, I know that you have investigated each other out.
Did anyone also confirm Cinera as a townie thorough investigation or other methods ? or did I miss that?

digitaldude - Insane Det
N1 Marm (Mafia Boss) - Guilty
N2 Haya (MR) - Guilty
N3 EH (Det) - Guilty
N4 Gry (Det) - Guilty
N5 Belserion (Townie) - Innocent
N6 Maryxxi - No feedback

Erinyes - Sane/Naive Detective
N1 Gry (Det) - Innocent
N2 Asako (Apprentice) - no result
N3 James (Prosecutor) - Innocent
N4 Shad (Mafia Boss) - Innocent
N5 Gajeel (PGO) - no feedback
N6 Maryxxi - no feedback

Equaling Heaven - Insane/Paranoid Det
N1 no target
N2 James (Prosecutor) - Guilty
N3 Vandred (MR) - Guilty
N4 Erin (Det) - Guilty
N5 shattered Gry
N6 Maryxxi Guilty

Cinera - Insane/Sane Apprentice -> Insane Det from DD since N3
N4 Gry - Guilty
N5 Misha - Guilty
N6 Holt- Guilty

Nii
N5 Shobu - Guilty
N6 Erin- Innocent

Now that makes the list a bit shorter on who wasn't investigated until now.
So Erin and DD got no results on Mary.
That means they were either blocked or illusions

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Also mazino is a doctor right, he never saved anyone whats up with that!

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vote kill holt for now.

Well there is a chance that he's a paranoid doctor

 

[Nii]

@Holt well if Vandred was blocked or killed, you could ofc still be mafia Mason and boss. Also kinda fascinating how you're getting more and more active with each new dayphase... Coincidence? I'm not sure.

For now you're the most likely mafia to me, but if anyone brings up an argument for someone else, I'm all ears.

 

[Baka Taichou]

DDtrying to divert on mazino, though I am not saying mazino should be trusted, they prolly diff parties cuz indeed odd for a doc to not protec anyone

 

[Holt]

@Holt well if Vandred was blocked or killed, you could ofc still be mafia Mason and boss. Also kinda fascinating how you're getting more and more active with each new dayphase... Coincidence? I'm not sure.

For now you're the most likely mafia to me, but if anyone brings up an argument for someone else, I'm all ears.

Yeah ofc I could be, but then the argument kinda crumbles? cos anyone could be anything at this point. There's nothing fascinating with me getting more active each new dayphase. That's how I play (though trying to change and I'd say I did pretty good this game).

 

[AwkwardMisha]

sooooooo, is DD actually panicking over the lover's theory?

Hmmm, were there other games this size that had more than one pair of lovers?

 

[Haya-san]

I can't stay until the end of the phase and don't know who to vote (and my vote might not count because I'm likely an illusion lol)

I think Cinera is pretty sharp for a beginner, and unless I missed something, his posts has been consistent so far. If he's mafia, then he's working with someone on the same team.

 

[digitaldude]

sooooooo, is DD actually panicking over the lover's theory?

Hmmm, were there other games this size that had more than one pair of lovers?

MHA game all over again, most people alive are probably mafia.

 

[AwkwardMisha]

Not quite what I asked.
Why are you so defensive all of the sudden.

 

[digitaldude]

Not quite what I asked.
Why are you so defensive all of the sudden.

Im not, are you gonna vote?

 

[AwkwardMisha]

Such a nice conversation we two are having isn't it°

 

[digitaldude]

only 3 and a half hours left.

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dont forget illusions dont count as voters, and every illusion is a townie.

 

[Haya-san]

Votekill EH (b/c not voting Shobu was suspicious, but TBH at this point, I don't really know who's mafia and who's not)

 

[digitaldude]

Votekill EH (b/c not voting Shobu was suspicious, but TBH at this point, I don't really know who's mafia and who's not)

HOW IS HE MAFIA I GOT GUILTY ON HIM.