Chapter Tower of God Chapter 517 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower Of God Chapter 517 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[O_n_Sly]

Yeah? And how is he gonna answer to LPB FH if another one of his kids die

Son!? The only LPB son we know of is the 8th son controlling the snake!

 

[Cinera]

As the vice commander of Yasratcha said, he could no longer see the game after Bam and White started fighting each other while he was the one who created the game as Yasratcha

Who do you think blinded his lighthouses?

Also, Maschenny is not saying that Baam is not powerful enough to ally with Maschenny

No, that's exactly what she said:

Baam cannot take anyone's side, ergo, he cannot take her side.

Impossible to think that Maschenny is telling her this while knowing that he has become much stronger than White because Baam is an ant compared to her... We are talking about Baam (being awake, he was already much stronger than White and he will approach his full power)

White is also not someone that can take sides.

Maschenny is playing grand strategy with multiple Great Families. Someone of the calibre of White just isn't quite big enough to be a player on that board.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

If she doesn't have JH as hostage to control Baam, I imagine she won't even bother to talk to Baam, it's a waste of her time if she can't force him to do her bidding. She'll do something else in the shadow or something

She cares about what's inside the nest enough to sabotage the cat tower and not seal Jisung. Her life is basically on the line here. She'd be in serious trouble of any of this is exposed.

If she didn't have a hostage she'd still come but with a well balanced deal where both sides will gain from.

 

[Kunrin]

Who do you think blinded his lighthouses?



No, that's exactly what she said:

Baam cannot take anyone's side, ergo, he cannot take her side.



White is also not someone that can take sides.

Maschenny is playing grand strategy with multiple Great Families. Someone of the calibre of White just isn't quite big enough to be a player on that board.

That's BS, White was definitely strong enough to have been accepted anywhere he threw his lot in, he's literally a legendary slayer. I think FUG is thrash, but thier not that bad.

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In my opinion, Mas is cool, but wayyyy too full of herself right now.

 

[salo14419]

Baam cannot take anyone's side, ergo, he cannot take her side.

What makes you think she is talking about Baam especifically, lol?
She was replying to Rak and literally the next text panel uses "little ones"
Unless i'm crazy, she's clearly talking about them in plural and while we are at it she's trying to force them into comply with her by alienating them (No one wants to side with you anyway, so you must do as i say).

It's clearly she is talking about them as a whole. Not about Baam's strenght alone which she shouldn't be aware of.
But good to see that you're slowly changing the narrative to make one where she is fully aware of Baam's strenght unlike the chapters prior.
You went from she may not be aware of Baam's true strenght but White is 100x times weaker than her to she saw it totally 100% sure but Baam is still weaker than her.
One step at the time i guess.

In my opinion, Mas is cool, but wayyyy too full of herself right now.

Everyone knows that, even the narrator except for Cinera.

" The tidal wave of a new era will swallow you arrogant people up quicker than you think. "
I doubt Maschenny will last after this season ends.

 

[Chilly12]

Lusclec is not FH lvl btw

Neither is adori

Normal ppl use contracts for shinsu while irregulars dont.
The difference is night and day

Example:
Urek no shinsu and with pure physical strenght can make tsunamis and rock high rankers at 1~10%

Thats why baam is so important to fug and khel hellam said hes the only one who can turn things around

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

It is obvious that the FUG is not a threat to Zahard, Wolhaiksong has Urek and Baek Ryun, the latter being in the same situation as Luslec "if he moves, an FH will have to interfere" and God knows how many irregulars there is in the Workshop, apart from his numerous researches. The FUG has no irregulars, they at most have the strength of a family.

I wonder how strong they'd be if they still had V and Arlene

 

[Kunrin]

Lusclec is not FH lvl btw

Neither is adori

Normal ppl use contracts for shinsu while irregulars dont.
The difference is night and day

Example:
Urek no shinsu and with pure physical strenght can make tsunamis and rock high rankers at 1~10%

Thats why baam is so important and khel hellam said hes the only one who can turn things around

Luslec might be hidden irregular tho. We know for a fact that the FH's weren't the only outsiders that entered the tower at the time. For example, Yeon Hana is celibate, but a relative of hers gives birth to the children in the family. So it's possible that Luslec entered as a follower of V. That's why it's implied the only ones that can stop him are FH's.

 

[Consul N]

When Baam finally becomes the Getsuga Tensho Maschenny won't be able to underestimate him any longer.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

In my opinion, Mas is cool, but wayyyy too full of herself right now.

I hope she gets burned soon but we all know how Baam is

 

[Chilly12]

Luslec might be hidden irregular tho. We know for a fact that the FH's weren't the only outsiders that entered the tower at the time. For example, Yeon Hana is celibate, but a relative of hers gives birth to the children in the family. So it's possible that Luslec entered as a follower of V. That's why it's implied the only ones that can stop him are FH's.

Nah otherwise fug wouldnt have made a big deal out of baams irregular status throughout season 2

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Lusclec is not FH lvl btw

Neither is adori

Normal ppl use contracts for shinsu while irregulars dont.
The difference is night and day

Example:
Urek no shinsu and with pure physical strenght can make tsunamis and rock high rankers at 1~10%

Thats why baam is so important to fug and khel hellam said hes the only one who can turn things around

I wonder if it's possible to use shinsu freely on the floor of death. Maybe no one does because no one realizes it's possible?

 

[Kunrin]

Nah otheewise fug wouldnt have made a big deal out of baams irregular status throughout season 2

It would still make sense. Even IF Luslec is an irregular, he knows he can't take Jahad (he might have even tried already). So knowing that Bam is an irregular with far more potential than him (being the son of two irregulars) he would see Bam as important. Even more so than himself.

 

[lazybum]

I wonder if it's possible to use shinsu freely on the floor of death. Maybe no one does because no one realizes it's possible?

Yuri said controlling shinsu was harder

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To be correct Yuri failed to use shinsu

 

[Chilly12]

I wonder if it's possible to use shinsu freely on the floor of death. Maybe no one does because no one realizes it's possible?

Its cuz their contract doesnt work on the floor cuz the admin is dead but in ureks case it was because helljoe controlled the shinsu in south city with his admin power. Baam could control it cuz of the thorn tho which is pretty much admin power.

Thats why the red thryssa said to baam:

"You with the thorn watch"

"This is admin power that humans cant replicate"

(Referring to enryu with the thorn)

It would still make sense. Even IF Luslec is an irregular, he knows he can't take Jahad (he might have even tried already). So knowing that Bam is an irregular with far more potential than him (being the son of two irregulars) he would see Bam as important. Even more so than himself.

Perhaps he was waiting for baam specifically its possible.

 

[zoradante1]

they tried with Enne, but even the sword was "mad"

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Brilliant

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Brilliant


He didn't toy with shit, lad had 5 diff people bail him out in that fight

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Yeah? And how is he gonna answer to LPB FH if another one of his kids die

He toyed with him throught entire fight.

White
the attack which destroyed Kallavan's arm (though his arm was already damaged) was destroyed with a single wave of his hand.

Even in close combat which is white's field, He was entirely supressed since baam was able to tank his attacks with his bare body

Wasn't able to cut,destroy or dispel "SINGLE" attack of baam and was only able to change the course of attacks.

Was made scream like a teenage girl after baam's attacks, "How much you are going to pour out!!".

Was at death's door and was entirely supressed in every second of fight yet White simps still insists on Cullinan being white's strongest sword and he wasn't doing his best in a fight which he was going to lose and was at death's door.

By the way White himself said Cullinan is the strongest sword he can "MAKE". On the other hand white pulled out a sword from Sheath which looks like a real sword compared to cullinan,it's quite likely the sword he used was a shinsu shape of Arie family members but he just powered up with souls which made his shinsu shape more stronger.
Cullinan is likely to created by only souls considering it doesn't look like a real sword at all,if we are talking about shape of cullinan it's a sword but it doesn't look like a sword at all. On the other hand the sword White used againist baam looked like a real sword and i'm confident Sword created by souls can't look like a real sword.

Cullinan > Souls
New sword > Shinsu shape? or weapon? with souls powered up.

But if you are going to still claim he wasn't able to toy with white just because of the last part which is absorbing and doesn't count as fight at all considering it was just a match about who is able to devour each other better,then your points are simply ridiculuous.

 

[UnnamedBoy]

Who do you think blinded his lighthouses?



No, that's exactly what she said:

Baam cannot take anyone's side, ergo, he cannot take her side.



White is also not someone that can take sides.

Maschenny is playing grand strategy with multiple Great Families. Someone of the calibre of White just isn't quite big enough to be a player on that board.

1- Surely the powers of Baam, his shinsu is able to change the laws of the tower and made rain. Not very surprised if it is Baam who made his

2-As I said, it can be related to his power... But she doesn't compare her power to Baam's.. Mascheny has a lot of contacts with people much more dangerous than White but as I told you and surely even with the gods of this tower (10 FL) nothing surprising to say that Baam still doesn't have enough power for Maschenny to ally with Baam because she is linked to people much more powerful than Baam right now



Small summary, I just saw that it's well related to power what she just said but she would never say that Baam is nothing compared to her and that it's just a person she can use just because she can crush Baam without diff even after beating White. It's much further than that and you have to think about it. You know a lot about Maschenny though and I'm sure you know that she says that because Baam still doesn't have enough power to be a leader... Nothing more

 

[MikaR]

2 candidates for branch leaders + 1 CC, let's send YHS and a lefav that can't shoot, transcended in intelligence.

Probably because kallavan will come here too, with the ha family girl

 

[zoradante1]

Btw when maschenny said baam is weak she was referring to what the fug elder said before the nest arc began. Baam cant play in the big leagues yet since his power isnt FH lvl yet. Thats why the elder said if the lo po bia FH and lusclec move he wont be able to do a thing. It doesnt mean hes weak. Current baam can fight top 100 High rankers if he activates his sun power and burns the souls to inflate the thorn like he did against white. Plus the darkness shinsu he inherited from V is pretty op. Probably stronger than khun electricity and arie sword

Darkness shinsu is his own power not V's if it was from V then Eduan wouldn't be even nowhere near V at shinsu quality which is eduan's field. Darkness is Baam's shinsu quality and it's quite likely it's on a whole level compared to even irregulars considering it's related to baam's inner power (sun)

 

[sazon]

Maschenny appears to be Eduan's favourite.

• The children on the Hidden Floor were the three that Eduan liked of the thousands that passed through the Hidden Floor.
• Maschenny's younger brother Ran was personally selected by Eduan himself.
• Similar to the above, Ran was raised with a golden spoon "bedazzled with real diamonds" as the New Ace of the Khun Family.

In real, it doesn't say anything, all FH changed after climbing the tower, Eduan liking Maschenny's strength in HF doesn't mean that the current one cares, in real the data didn't care much when they disappeared.

About Ran, that doesn't mean anything, we still don't know what Mas's phrase at the time means and Ran is not even remotely on good terms with it. And don't forget that by all appearances, the branch leaders in the Koon family are the wives, I wouldn't doubt that Maschenny (mother) is the most influential right now, but that's not to say Eduan cares.

• One of the Khun Family's Faction Leaders (Asensio) is her errand boy.
• She seems to have orchestrated an alliance between her Family and the Lo Po Bia Family.
• Maschenny is the only 13 Month Princess in the history of the Khun Family.

Asensio being a faction leader up to this point doesn't mean anything to us, not that it's a demerit, but the fact that we don't know what it means. We don't know anything about the Koon's political structure.

About the aliance, it's Lyborick's thing, there's nothing, at the moment, that indicates it's his thing. And in the end, she could be the Koon's Gem, if Eduan doesn't want to get involved, Adori can kill her without a problem. That's the point, Maschenny can't kill Yuri for the charge behind this last one, but the same may not be true for her because Adori is too strong, the Koon family can squirm all they want, who else besides Eduan has the balls to retaliate against Adori?

I wonder how strong they'd be if they still had V and Arlene

It all depends on what happened for all the FH to side with Zahard. If they continued, V and arlene wouldn't have a chance, Baam only has a chance to beat Zahard because the balance between the 10 families is breaking.

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Luslec might be hidden irregular tho. We know for a fact that the FH's weren't the only outsiders that entered the tower at the time. For example, Yeon Hana is celibate, but a relative of hers gives birth to the children in the family. So it's possible that Luslec entered as a follower of V. That's why it's implied the only ones that can stop him are FH's.

Luslec is an inhabitant of the tower, he was born on the 80th floor.