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August Dragneel vs Diabolos Guild

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Ah yes, because Gildarts won't improve like the rest of the guild. Or ignoring the fact that Suzaka who's on par with Kirin is stronger than human Selene. Rocks for brains.
Well considering we never seen him get better or train and shown to be pushed back by Natsu too instead of getting better and did not even harm Aldoron and Brandish power did, automatically is stronger by doing nothing? sound logic "sarcasm". yet Selene said Kirin is stronger so yeah.
 

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how so? if he cannot harm Aldoron and Brandish's power can, then that means he is weaker than the Spriggans, Selene is most likely lying as her actions contradict her sayings, yet current chapter retcons those showings, Suzaku is below Gildarts, simple as, and Brandish's power able to harm (while slightly) dragon form Aldoron is more impressive than what Suzaku showed. Natsu is only stronger with Savage Flames and Seven Flames which he doesn't do since. his regular slash is still his magic, which is basically nothing August can't copy, if August can stab someone like Gildarts with a stick and even block his punches, then that sword Suzaku has is a nonfactor, Natsu and Erza were not at their best, if he was serious he would have used his more powerful spells such as Fairy Glitter. It was Brandish's power that did the job, Gajeel was just lent it by her, hardly arguable since it comes from her and Aldoron felt that and staggered/rendered immobile.
He's not a dragon slayer? What did you expect? Brandish HAD to act through Gajeel. All the damage came from Gajeel and his DS advantage, Brandish just evened the size difference, and even then DF Natsu did better on that front as well.
Doesn't retcon that at all. DF Natsu is stronger than August too.
August only stabbed Gildarts because he had to protect Cana and that was preskip Gildarts too.
Soloing Natsu and Erza is simply better than anything August has done. You can claim they weren't at their best, but August still hasn't done anything better, his feats just aren't up to scratch. Similarily, Selene's praise of Suzaku and her defeat at his hand are better statements than anything August has received either. There's really just no reason to believe August is superior, everything just points to Suzaku being a cut above.
He committed suicide, he was serious. If Fairy Glitter would've done the job, he'd still be alive today lol.
Well considering we never seen him get better or train and shown to be pushed back by Natsu too instead of getting better and did not even harm Aldoron and Brandish power did, automatically is stronger by doing nothing? sound logic "sarcasm". yet Selene said Kirin is stronger so yeah.
By this logic he's still Bluenote tier.
 

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Well considering we never seen him get better or train and shown to be pushed back by Natsu too instead of getting better and did not even harm Aldoron and Brandish power did, automatically is stronger by doing nothing? sound logic "sarcasm". yet Selene said Kirin is stronger so yeah.
Who cares. We haven't seen Gilarts train once since his introduction but Current Gildarts>>>>>>>>>>>Tenrou Gildarts. So yeah, you're bullshitting. And Brandish's power didn't harm Aldron, she buffed Gajeel who harmed Aldron, Gajeel was able to do that because he's a dragon slayer. Like I said, rocks for brains. So what if Hiro doesn't show us people training, they get stronger, especially in lengthy-time skips.
 

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He's not a dragon slayer? What did you expect? Brandish HAD to act through Gajeel. All the damage came from Gajeel and his DS advantage, Brandish just evened the size difference, and even then DF Natsu did better on that front as well.
Doesn't retcon that at all. DF Natsu is stronger than August too.
August only stabbed Gildarts because he had to protect Cana and that was preskip Gildarts too.
Soloing Natsu and Erza is simply better than anything August has done. You can claim they weren't at their best, but August still hasn't done anything better, his feats just aren't up to scratch. Similarily, Selene's praise of Suzaku and her defeat at his hand are better statements than anything August has received either. There's really just no reason to believe August is superior, everything just points to Suzaku being a cut above.
He committed suicide, he was serious. If Fairy Glitter would've done the job, he'd still be alive today lol.

By this logic he's still Bluenote tier.
That is not damage via stats, it is pain inducement since slayer magic is anathema to their respective types bypassing their defenses, real damage comes from the stats, which Gajeel lacks until Brandish boost him, otherwise Gajeel would be stronger than Natsu with Dragon King techniques, he did not as he did not get boosted by Brandish, protect or not, Gildarts still got stabbed by a wooden stick which is much better than any sword could, Gildarts does not change since he could not make Aldoron flinch. August basically soloed Natsu who is immune to Fire and even knocked him out. Selene’s words contradict her actions as she was perfectly fine in human form. So yeah, August is above Suzaku as the former scales to Gildarts, that means FG would not have been enough since it is not his own strength but that of what it is sources from. Bluenote was always weaker than Gildarts, don’t know what you mean by that.

Who cares. We haven't seen Gilarts train once since his introduction but Current Gildarts>>>>>>>>>>>Tenrou Gildarts. So yeah, you're bullshitting. And Brandish's power didn't harm Aldron, she buffed Gajeel who harmed Aldron, Gajeel was able to do that because he's a dragon slayer. Like I said, rocks for brains. So what if Hiro doesn't show us people training, they get stronger, especially in lengthy-time skips.
So? That was was same Gildarts, he was just getting old, so of course he would be a little rusty, Gajeel wouldn’t be able to harm Aldoron anyway because of stats difference which was required by Brandish’s power which she scales to anyway, and Gildarts did not, they do not unless stated and/or shown, which is evident enough when shown.
 

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That is not damage via stats, it is pain inducement since slayer magic is anathema to their respective types bypassing their defenses, real damage comes from the stats, which Gajeel lacks until Brandish boost him, otherwise Gajeel would be stronger than Natsu with Dragon King techniques, he did not as he did not get boosted by Brandish, protect or not, Gildarts still got stabbed by a wooden stick which is much better than any sword could, Gildarts does not change since he could not make Aldoron flinch. August basically soloed Natsu who is immune to Fire and even knocked him out. Selene’s words contradict her actions as she was perfectly fine in human form. So yeah, August is above Suzaku as the former scales to Gildarts, that means FG would not have been enough since it is not his own strength but that of what it is sources from. Bluenote was always weaker than Gildarts, don’t know what you mean by that.



So? That was was same Gildarts, he was just getting old, so of course he would be a little rusty, Gajeel wouldn’t be able to harm Aldoron anyway because of stats difference which was required by Brandish’s power which she scales to anyway, and Gildarts did not, they do not unless stated and/or shown, which is evident enough when shown.
Well yeah, so why are you harping on about Gildarts not damaging Aldaron when he's not a slayer either?
So? People get stabbed all the time. August was stabbed by Brandish lol. If the stabbing doesn't defeat them, why would it matter?
August didn't solo Natsu lol, Natsu literally laughed it off, he was grinning ear to ear after the attack. Suzaku on the other hand soloed Natsu.... and Erza.
If that was a contradiction, Suzaku would have noticed it before you. He didn't. So her words, for the time being, are as canon as Brandish wanking August.
You know full well what I mean by it, let's not play these games. Is Gildarts stronger now than he was in Tenrou, yes or no?
 

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Well yeah, so why are you harping on about Gildarts not damaging Aldaron when he's not a slayer either?
So? People get stabbed all the time. August was stabbed by Brandish lol. If the stabbing doesn't defeat them, why would it matter?
August didn't solo Natsu lol, Natsu literally laughed it off, he was grinning ear to ear after the attack. Suzaku on the other hand soloed Natsu.... and Erza.
If that was a contradiction, Suzaku would have noticed it before you. He didn't. So her words, for the time being, are as canon as Brandish wanking August.
You know full well what I mean by it, let's not play these games. Is Gildarts stronger now than he was in Tenrou, yes or no?
While one or two could not make him flinch and the other could, August was stabbed by surprise so he did not have proper defenses up, and even then didn’t defeat him, a stick with no sharp end would have less affectiveness to stab than a sword which is impressive, he was unconscious until after U1 was completed, he did not know what was happening, just because he was grinning doesn’t mean he didn’t lose consciousness, he Soloed them when they were not at their best. Suzaku who has terrible sense of direction would not notice anything, because he is an idiot. That would mean Brandish is close to DG level then by showings. What now? Gildarts was always as strong as he was, shown in Gildarts vs Natsu rematch.
 

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While one or two could not make him flinch and the other could, August was stabbed by surprise so he did not have proper defenses up, and even then didn’t defeat him, a stick with no sharp end would have less affectiveness to stab than a sword which is impressive, he was unconscious until after U1 was completed, he did not know what was happening, just because he was grinning doesn’t mean he didn’t lose consciousness, he Soloed them when they were not at their best. Suzaku who has terrible sense of direction would not notice anything, because he is an idiot. That would mean Brandish is close to DG level then by showings. What now? Gildarts was always as strong as he was, shown in Gildarts vs Natsu rematch.
She didn't make anyone flinch, Gajeel did with DS advantage.
Ok? The stick was pretty sharp. Besides, ordinary rocks fucked Erza's legs in GMG, this stuff is just basic.
Where was he unconscious? Show a panel. Natsu cancelled the spell, no one took damage, even the likes of Lucy.
Lmao, a terrible sense of direction in a literal labyrinth, means he can't tell power levels as well as you can? I don't think so. What he thinks carries much more weight than what you think.
Not really, Brandish hasn't so much as scratched a DG, Suzaku has.
So Gildarts is as strong now as he was in Tenrou? Are you retarded? He was literally clashing evenly with Bluenote, a character Natsu no diffed. Might as well say Bluenote is a match for spriggans.
 

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She didn't make anyone flinch, Gajeel did with DS advantage.
Ok? The stick was pretty sharp. Besides, ordinary rocks fucked Erza's legs in GMG, this stuff is just basic.
Where was he unconscious? Show a panel. Natsu cancelled the spell, no one took damage, even the likes of Lucy.
Lmao, a terrible sense of direction in a literal labyrinth, means he can't tell power levels as well as you can? I don't think so. What he thinks carries much more weight than what you think.
Not really, Brandish hasn't so much as scratched a DG, Suzaku has.
So Gildarts is as strong now as he was in Tenrou? Are you retarded? He was literally clashing evenly with Bluenote, a character Natsu no diffed. Might as well say Bluenote is a match for spriggans.
Gajeel only did that because of Brandish’s power, which she scales to, even Natsu couldn’t do that alone At the beginning. It was not as it has a round end, she was saving Kagura which she had no defense in her fire pants clothes. Here as he was just waking up after U1 https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628881/8, he did not cancel all of it, he just reduced it, and yet he marked it to make it easy and yet he still got lost, so he is not that bright. Yes she would as Aldoron clearly felt it and seeing pieces of him breaking off with each blow, and this was dragon form. Gildarts was out of shape back then hence how he said he was getting old as literally after the time skip in their second round, Gildarts was fighting at the same level as before and was pushed back more by Natsu, so he was surprised back then. I don’t appreciate he use of vulgar words.
 

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Gajeel only did that because of Brandish’s power, which she scales to, even Natsu couldn’t do that alone At the beginning. It was not as it has a round end, she was saving Kagura which she had no defense in her fire pants clothes. Here as he was just waking up after U1 https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628881/8, he did not cancel all of it, he just reduced it, and yet he marked it to make it easy and yet he still got lost, so he is not that bright. Yes she would as Aldoron clearly felt it and seeing pieces of him breaking off with each blow, and this was dragon form. Gildarts was out of shape back then hence how he said he was getting old as literally after the time skip in their second round, Gildarts was fighting at the same level as before and was pushed back more by Natsu, so he was surprised back then. I don’t appreciate he use of vulgar words.
Sure, it was still Gajeel that did it.
Yeah? And Gildarts was saving Cana with no defense in his rag clothes lol.
Natsu isn't unconscious in that panel, in fact he's very much awake. He also said he does cancel it in the page you posted.
It's a literal labyrinth. You don't think you would get lost in a literal labyrinth? If your answer isn't "yes, obviously I would" then you're an idiot.
All that means is that Natsu had a greater increase of strength than Gildarts did. Not that Gildarts didn't increase. Natsu grew more than anyone in the manga over the timeskip. Gildarts was stronger in Alvarez than he was in Tenrou and he's even stronger now, known still as the most powerful member of the guild. He grew in strength, no different to Laxus, no different than Erza. Might as well say all three of them are still only Bluenote/Jura tier by your logic.
I don't appreciate your intentionally disingenuous argument, but here we are, that's just the way it goes.
 

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Sure, it was still Gajeel that did it.
Yeah? And Gildarts was saving Cana with no defense in his rag clothes lol.
Natsu isn't unconscious in that panel, in fact he's very much awake. He also said he does cancel it in the page you posted.
It's a literal labyrinth. You don't think you would get lost in a literal labyrinth? If your answer isn't "yes, obviously I would" then you're an idiot.
All that means is that Natsu had a greater increase of strength than Gildarts did. Not that Gildarts didn't increase. Natsu grew more than anyone in the manga over the timeskip. Gildarts was stronger in Alvarez than he was in Tenrou and he's even stronger now, known still as the most powerful member of the guild. He grew in strength, no different to Laxus, no different than Erza. Might as well say all three of them are still only Bluenote/Jura tier by your logic.
I don't appreciate your intentionally disingenuous argument, but here we are, that's just the way it goes.
And Gajeel would scale to Brandish. So? He can be virtually be unscathed by destructive blasts and can’t stop a blunt edge stick? The only explanation is that it is no ordinary stick. That panel showed he was waking up, that is why he is shocked and wondering what was going, just like several people who were weak or unconscious before U1. He said he could only cancel most of it, not all of it, even Lucy questions it, not when you think a few steps ahead to help guide your way, only to act idiotic and not know how to use it properly, I would come prepared before going into a labyrinth obviously Because I am not an idiot, no, as there was no evidence of it, even Gildarts was thinking back at that time which is the same amount of effort he used last time, prove it, show him actually training or stated he got stronger instead of just saying it, he was just out of practice for Bluenote as he did not have a proper fight in a while, Makarov was just surprised by Jura’s strength, nothing indicates he is as strong as Gildarts. Your counter point is insignificant when you come to blatantly insulting others.
 

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And Gajeel would scale to Brandish. So? He can be virtually be unscathed by destructive blasts and can’t stop a blunt edge stick? The only explanation is that it is no ordinary stick. That panel showed he was waking up, that is why he is shocked and wondering what was going, just like several people who were weak or unconscious before U1. He said he could only cancel most of it, not all of it, even Lucy questions it, not when you think a few steps ahead to help guide your way, only to act idiotic and not know how to use it properly, I would come prepared before going into a labyrinth obviously Because I am not an idiot, no, as there was no evidence of it, even Gildarts was thinking back at that time which is the same amount of effort he used last time, prove it, show him actually training or stated he got stronger instead of just saying it, he was just out of practice for Bluenote as he did not have a proper fight in a while, Makarov was just surprised by Jura’s strength, nothing indicates he is as strong as Gildarts. Your counter point is insignificant when you come to blatantly insulting others.
Not really. It's like saying anyone who is buffed by Wendy only scales to Wendy.
Yes? In the same way Erza can be nuked by Minerva unscathed and still can't stop a rock. And yes, obviously it's no ordinary stick.
No it doesn't? Nowhere does it show Natsu unconscious, this is something you've made up. He was simply surprised that he got teleported.
Even with all of that, you would %100 get lost. In fact Suzaku is the only one thinking ahead with those markings. He's guaranteed smarter than you are.
Makarov said plain as day, Jura would be a match for Gildarts.
Show Erza actually training or stated to have gotten stronger, or shall I just go ahead and say she's still Tartaros tier even now? No, I don't think so.
Gildarts improves like everyone else in Fairy Tail, he's obliged to as Fairy Tail's strongest member. He was stronger in Alvarez than he was in Tenrou, and he's stronger now than he was in Alvarez, the fact that he's being compared to Kirrin, a human Acno tier, confirms it.
I'm pretty good at insulting others if I'm honest, I think it only adds more to my arguments. Your disingenuousness on the other hand? Detracts. Makes you look a bit silly really.
 
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Not really. It's like saying anyone who is buffed by Wendy only scales to Wendy.
Yes? In the same way Erza can be nuked by Minerva unscathed and still can't stop a rock. And yes, obviously it's no ordinary stick.
No it doesn't? Nowhere does it show Natsu unconscious, this is something you've made up. He was simply surprised that he got teleported.
Even with all of that, you would %100 get lost. In fact Suzaku is the only one thinking ahead with those markings. He's guaranteed smarter than you are.
Makarov said plain as day, Jura would be a match for Gildarts.
Show Erza actually training or stated to have gotten stronger, or shall I just go ahead and say she's still Tartaros tier even now? No, I don't think so.
Gildarts improves like everyone else in Fairy Tail, he's obliged to as Fairy Tail's strongest member. He was stronger in Alvarez than he was in Tenrou, and he's stronger now than he was in Alvarez, the fact that he's being compared to Kirrin, a human Acno tier, confirms it.
I'm pretty good at insulting others if I'm honest, I think it only adds more to my arguments. Your disingenuousness on the other hand? Detracts. Makes you look a bit silly really.
Not a good compariso, nor accurate and Wendy’s powers and Brandish’s are not the same. she did not have her fire pant clothing on when she fought Minerva then, they couldn’t really recall what happened which meant they were knocked out, he was basically raising his head out of regaining consciousness, nothing of the sort, surprised is not the same as confusion which is when you are awake, being a good match is not the same as stating being as strong, anyone can be a good match for characters who are stronger or weaker. Correction, Erza was stated to have gotten stronger since Tartaros, Gray said they’ve grown. No evidence Gildarts improved, he may have gotten back in shape from Tenrou but that is about it to show his actual strength, he was already strongest, he did not need to train, he said that is the task for the next generation, he was stronger because he wasn’t out of shape then, no proof of that, even currently he is weaker than Brandish level Spriggan since her power can do more damage to a Dragon God in Dragon Form than he could. Disingenuousness only occurs when one is not sincere, and this is quite sincere being the case that Gildarts did not train at all and is as strong as he’s always been. You Should know this by now
 
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That is not damage via stats, it is pain inducement since slayer magic is anathema to their respective types bypassing their defenses, real damage comes from the stats, which Gajeel lacks until Brandish boost him, otherwise Gajeel would be stronger than Natsu with Dragon King techniques, he did not as he did not get boosted by Brandish, protect or not, Gildarts still got stabbed by a wooden stick which is much better than any sword could, Gildarts does not change since he could not make Aldoron flinch. August basically soloed Natsu who is immune to Fire and even knocked him out. Selene’s words contradict her actions as she was perfectly fine in human form. So yeah, August is above Suzaku as the former scales to Gildarts, that means FG would not have been enough since it is not his own strength but that of what it is sources from. Bluenote was always weaker than Gildarts, don’t know what you mean by that.



So? That was was same Gildarts, he was just getting old, so of course he would be a little rusty, Gajeel wouldn’t be able to harm Aldoron anyway because of stats difference which was required by Brandish’s power which she scales to anyway, and Gildarts did not, they do not unless stated and/or shown, which is evident enough when shown.
So you do have rocks for brains. Nothing said he was rusty. And no, he buffing Gajeel doesn't mean she can directly affect Aldron, Gajeel and Brandish both needed each other. Only an idiot would have to be spoon-fed into being explicitly stated that characters have grown. Gildarts has gotten stronger.
 

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Not a good compariso, nor accurate and Wendy’s powers and Brandish’s are not the same. she did not have her fire pant clothing on when she fought Minerva then, they couldn’t really recall what happened which meant they were knocked out, he was basically raising his head out of regaining consciousness, nothing of the sort, surprised is not the same as confusion which is when you are awake, being a good match is not the same as stating being as strong, anyone can be a good match for characters who are stronger or weaker. Correction, Erza was stated to have gotten stronger since Tartaros, Gray said they’ve grown. No evidence Gildarts improved, he may have gotten back in shape from Tenrou but that is about it to show his actual strength, he was already strongest, he did not need to train, he said that is the task for the next generation, he was stronger because he wasn’t out of shape then, no proof of that, even currently he is weaker than Brandish level Spriggan since her power can do more damage to a Dragon God in Dragon Form than he could. Disingenuousness only occurs when one is not sincere, and this is quite sincere being the case that Gildarts did not train at all and is as strong as he’s always been. You Should know this by now
Obviously, magic doesn't need to be the same for me to compare them.
So? Minerva was blasting her when she had her fire pants clothing on too.
Natsu just asked what happened, you know... because he randomly just got teleported... a pretty fair question. Most people would be confused.
Where? Post a panel stating Erza was stronger in Alvarez.
Gildarts said that the task was to bring FT back to number 1 in Fiore, not to train lol. There is literally no reason Gildarts wouldn't have gotten stronger like everyone else, strength is his character. The fact that he's currently being compared to a human Acno tier confirms this.
Yeah I know, you're not sincere, that was my point. You're arguing things that you know are wrong, to the point where you'll make a bunch of dumbass claims like Eileen turning human isn't magic, that Wendy's element isn't sky and that Gildarts didn't get stronger. Things that are blatantly obvious, and can be seen by everyone.
 

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So you do have rocks for brains. Nothing said he was rusty. And no, he buffing Gajeel doesn't mean she can directly affect Aldron, Gajeel and Brandish both needed each other. Only an idiot would have to be spoon-fed into being explicitly stated that characters have grown. Gildarts has gotten stronger.
He was getting old, and by definition means his skills are rusty, Brandish would harm Aldoron if she had DS attribute to her which was the only reason Gajeel was there, not for his stats. Prove that Gildarts got stronger, at least everyone else was stated to have gotten stronger.

Obviously, magic doesn't need to be the same for me to compare them.
So? Minerva was blasting her when she had her fire pants clothing on too.
Natsu just asked what happened, you know... because he randomly just got teleported... a pretty fair question. Most people would be confused.
Where? Post a panel stating Erza was stronger in Alvarez.
Gildarts said that the task was to bring FT back to number 1 in Fiore, not to train lol. There is literally no reason Gildarts wouldn't have gotten stronger like everyone else, strength is his character. The fact that he's currently being compared to a human Acno tier confirms this.
Yeah I know, you're not sincere, that was my point. You're arguing things that you know are wrong, to the point where you'll make a bunch of dumbass claims like Eileen turning human isn't magic, that Wendy's element isn't sky and that Gildarts didn't get stronger. Things that are blatantly obvious, and can be seen by everyone.
and yet not a good comparison, That is Erza’s will power, not defensive, he asked two questions, yet they were not sured they were attacked so they had to recall it so they were unconscious, which is common for anyone who was knocked out To recall such things. Here:https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628837/5 & https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628831/6, yet he said that he could have brought them back to that point since he was the best but that was not his job, yet he did not since he had the same amount of strength when he fought against Natsu the second time, you just answer my point, strength is his character so he is as strong as he’s been, and yet Spriggans would be slightly Dragon God level too would support this too since the former and even Natsu couldn’t make Aldoron budge then. You have no proof that I am not sincere, you are arguing about things that have no proof, I never said that it wasn’t magic, I said magic and nature are the same, Wendy’s element is air as that is what she eats, and Gildarts is as strong as he’s been, not everyone who believes differently than you so you are wrong there too. It is simple, provide evidence that he got stronger or move on.
 
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He was getting old, and by definition means his skills are rusty, Brandish would harm Aldoron if she had DS attribute to her which was the only reason Gajeel was there, not for his stats. Prove that Gildarts got stronger, at least everyone else was stated to have gotten stronger.



and yet not a good comparison, That is Erza’s will power, not defensive, he asked two questions, yet they were not sured they were attacked so they had to recall it so they were unconscious, which is common for anyone who was knocked out To recall such things. Here:https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628837/5 & https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628831/6, yet he said that he could have brought them back to that point since he was the best but that was not his job, yet he did not since he had the same amount of strength when he fought against Natsu the second time, you just answer my point, strength is his character so he is as strong as he’s been, and yet Spriggans would be slightly Dragon God level too would support this too since the former and even Natsu couldn’t make Aldoron budge then. You have no proof that I am not sincere, you are arguing about things that have no proof, I never said that it wasn’t magic, I said magic and nature are the same, Wendy’s element is air as that is what she eats, and Gildarts is as strong as he’s been, not everyone who believes differently than you so you are wrong there too. It is simple, provide evidence that he got stronger or move on.
Nah, she just kinda... tanks it? She just runs through the blast. She tanks tons of shit in her Red Pants, Azuma's attacks, Kyoka's, all top level shit.
Yeah... what happened and where am I. Pretty reasonable questions for a man who just got randomly teleported to ask lmao.
Nice, now do Gajeel and Jellal. Or are they only Tartaros tier?
He doesn't say that lmao. And even if he did, why would that mean he's not getting stronger? Why do you think he takes jobs like 100YQ in the first place?
No, he was very clearly stronger in Alvarez, Natsu's growth simply outpaced his, like it outpaced everyones.
No statement about spriggans being comparable to Dragon Gods, Brandish outright says it's beyond her.
I don't need hard proof to have an opinion on your mindset. You literally said Zeref turning Eileen human wasn't magic lmao because Eileen's dragon form is immune to magic, Wendy's element is outright stated sky in the manga, Gildarts is stronger. I didn't say anyone who believes differently is wrong, the things you're claiming are simply so outlandishly stupid that either you're disingenuous or a genuine idiot.
 

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Yep it's confirmed that Human Selene <<<<< August

August could single-handedly finish the 100 Year Quest all alone with Ars Magia

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Nah, she just kinda... tanks it? She just runs through the blast. She tanks tons of shit in her Red Pants, Azuma's attacks, Kyoka's, all top level shit.
Yeah... what happened and where am I. Pretty reasonable questions for a man who just got randomly teleported to ask lmao.
Nice, now do Gajeel and Jellal. Or are they only Tartaros tier?
He doesn't say that lmao. And even if he did, why would that mean he's not getting stronger? Why do you think he takes jobs like 100YQ in the first place?
No, he was very clearly stronger in Alvarez, Natsu's growth simply outpaced his, like it outpaced everyones.
No statement about spriggans being comparable to Dragon Gods, Brandish outright says it's beyond her.
I don't need hard proof to have an opinion on your mindset. You literally said Zeref turning Eileen human wasn't magic lmao because Eileen's dragon form is immune to magic, Wendy's element is outright stated sky in the manga, Gildarts is stronger. I didn't say anyone who believes differently is wrong, the things you're claiming are simply so outlandishly stupid that either you're disingenuous or a genuine idiot.
That is because of her own willpower or stamina. Yet he started face down just like anyone would when they are unconscious, again, in the same links for Gajeel, and with Jellal, shown with his stronger than before magic. why not? Because he wants too, he comes and goes as he feel, to likely sleep with any woman or just punch things up. He was stronger because he was not out of practice before and showed off his actual powers, no, he was simply surprised at how strong he got since last time as he was holding back, yet you make the claim that Gildarts is HDG level when showings confirms Spriggan level characters can harm Aldo with their power, you do since you are making such radical claims. I said that magic and nature are interchangeable, I don’t know how you came to that conclusion, not every magic is within a dragon’s immunity especially when it is common for Dragon Slayers to have human forms when they turn into Dragons, she eats air, not sky, confirmed in the manga, yes you did, as what I said is what is shown/stated in the manga.
 
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