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I voted tatsu first, so what you mean by scav joined in?
ah, i meant to say that he started the lynch train after scav joined in, like voted, either way my point stands, she tried to create a lynch train.

Am sorry it took 2 hours of my life if there are mistakes in there I stand to be corrected
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You've been trying many things and pulling some strings, and I have no idea if Cinera is a she or a he, I think a he.
aaaaaaa, this is quite interesting :hurr

Hmm, should have refreshed before posting the novel
 

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Shad the way you are hinting you might either be one shot action or traitor trying to get recruited. Which could be highly likely as there were no kills last night, so one way to prove is either by investigation or by your further actions. I stand to be corrected. So shad for me you are in a neutral zone at the moment.
Let leave this discussion for when I reveal.
I will reveal either when I have something or when the world is against me.

Also I didn't hint, I answered a question from one of seraph voters: did you do any action.

I was gonna say it, but I left an actual hint today.

Recap, still don’t like the trust bond. I don’t like the switch the next day saying that pom is now green because “it is unlikely to throw a strongman like that”.
I don't get this, who was the second mafia in this example? Me?

So pompom started a train on me, then killed her other mafia friend? I don't get it.

I don't mind the theories tho, as long as you give me a chance to answer them, discussion for tomorrow?
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I wasn't gonna say it*
 

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Let leave this discussion for when I reveal.
I will reveal either when I have something or when the world is against me.

Also I didn't hint, I answered a question from one of seraph voters: did you do any action.

I was gonna say it, but I left an actual hint today.



I don't get this, who was the second mafia in this example? Me?

So pompom started a train on me, then killed her other mafia friend? I don't get it.

I don't mind the theories tho, as long as you give me a chance to answer them, discussion for tomorrow?
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I wasn't gonna say it*
I wasn't implying you to be mafia directly, there were a lot of players who had 2 votes on them. But it's interesting you went there.
Yeah, we will leave it for tomorrow if you wish
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Also pom placed a vote on you as a placeholder and switched it in the end
 

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I wasn't implying you to be mafia directly, there were a lot of players who had 2 votes on them. But it's interesting you went there.
Yeah, we will leave it for tomorrow if you wish
You didn't specify who is the second mafia, the section was titled Shad.

Do you think I'm inside your head?
Please don't be condecending.


Also pom placed a vote on you as a placeholder and switched it in the end
You should go and read day 1.
If you think it a placeholder, you haven't been following pompom at all, she is still after me today.

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You didn't specify who is the second mafia, the section was titled Shad.

Do you think I'm inside your head?
Please don't be condecending.




You should go and read day 1.
If you think it a placeholder, you haven't been following pompom at all, she is still after me today.

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What? It was a theory shad.
If I wanted to pinpoint you as mafia I would. I said that in the worst-case scenario you are a traitor. How would the mafia know who was the traitor?
re-read the post
And I don't know what screamed condescending to you :hurr

AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaand I was talking about yesterdays vote and not today.
hakuna matata, Shad, hakuna matata
 

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What? It was a theory shad.
If I wanted to pinpoint you as mafia I would. I said that in the worst-case scenario you are a traitor. How would the mafia know who was the traitor?
re-read the post
And I don't know what screamed condescending to you :hurr

AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaand I was talking about yesterdays vote and not today.
hakuna matata, Shad, hakuna matata
Sorry I'm paranoid, I need to defend my self and I can't tell who are the wolves, they usually take turn when they want to shad someone.

I also didn't handle this properly, all day here and at work, I've reached my limit, which is why I'm saying let do it properly tomorrow.

Especially since Cinera reveal will allow us to focus the discussion on the important part, today we will be all over the place since we don't know what Cinera is.

Also after 3 days things get complicated and information is lost, so we have to be more careful when writing, if you have a different image of what happened D1, it will be hard agree on what something means on D3, for example and it may take 10 posts for clarify it, if we start insulting each other from post 2, we have no chance of getting there.

Clear communication is the key to a healthy town, notice I've never accused you of anything since the game started, so your argument that shad is too trusty applies to you as well, not just what I said about Uber, seraph voters (minus the recruited) and others.

You can only lynch one person per day, no reason to fight somebody that you have no intention of lynching, it will just lead to town on town tunneling.
 

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Sorry I'm paranoid, I need to defend my self and I can't tell who are the wolves, they usually take turn when they want to shad someone.

I also didn't handle this properly, all day here and at work, I've reached my limit, which is why I'm saying let do it properly tomorrow.

Especially since Cinera reveal will allow us to focus the discussion on the important part, today we will be all over the place since we don't know what Cinera is.

Also after 3 days things get complicated and information is lost, so we have to be more careful when writing, if you have a different image of what happened D1, it will be hard agree on what something means on D3, for example and it may take 10 posts for clarify it, if we start insulting each other from post 2, we have no chance of getting there.

Clear communication is the key to a healthy town, notice I've never accused you of anything since the game started, so your argument that shad is too trusty applies to you as well, not just what I said about Uber, seraph voters (minus the recruited) and others.

You can only lynch one person per day, no reason to fight somebody that you have no intention of lynching, it will just lead to town on town tunneling.
Shad, I never insulted you in any way.
This is a distrust game, everyone is sus of everyone, it's normal.
I also added you to my grey area, where you might or might not be, those were my thoughts, I expressed them, as I said I stand to be corrected.
You said that clear communication is the key to a healthy town but you jumped the gun calling me condescending out of the blue.

Hakuna Matata Shad, people's opinions change day by day based on other players' actions and behavior.


Gb is Mishoda ~
 

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So these are my 2 cents until now~



Cinera:
Unfortunately Cinera might be the unluckiest player, but from what I have noticed besides the very low post count, most of the information he has given in day 1 was mostly irrelevant to the game and he gathered most of the post counts today when he was cornered about his Shad vote. At first he stated that his town reads are Uber and shad then he switched to Mary and Uber but said that he mostly doesn’t have any scum reads yet. Then he connected his reasoning with poms early comment saying that shad was throwing shade at early posters and implying that there are mafia among them. But that argument between pom and shad already ended by the time Cinera made those comments and still pushed his vote in the end on shad although his reasoning was that he didn’t want to lynch Seraph due to laziness ( even though earlier he said that he was busy at work and that he didn’t have time, not that he was lazy to go over the thread)

The thing that I found the most sus, was that first he said that he is going to sleep at around 4 pm his timezone and then at 7 pm he came back and said that he is actually at work. Which was very inconsistent for me.

Plus at 6 am his time today he informed us that he is sleeping at the moment and will only answer if he hears the push notifications and then around 10 pm his time he said that he is getting ready to go to work when the previous day he hinted at a late shift.

Then, most of his posts felt hollow and his reasoning for his vote switch goes wildly against what he firstly announced that he will do - that is following the voting train

Either bad play or scum

Brandish:
Has the smallest post count and she also went with the hint that she had the role before. Tut tut, most of her roles were mafia ahahahahah ( She was even Santa once) and that leaves us, if she is townie with 4 active roles: Bomb diffuser, Investigator, pirate, Bodyguard. If I got her hints right, she is on my trusted list for now, but I am waiting for a confirmation later in the game.



Mishoda:
Reminds me a lot of his last game when he was TP~

His contribution in day one scared me a bit as it reminded me of his SS play from last game. ( Trauma)

But today he is showing a bit more openness and trying to contribute a bit without going full trololo. For now I would add him to a neutral greenish zone as he might actually have a good role, but only his next actions will tell.



James:
James for me is playing on the low side. He reminds me of his last game when he was Santa and was lynched D1. His vote was random which also started a tatsumaki train when scav joined in. Although I can understand his reasoning for going after an inactive player, he was also in the same position as his target. Sussy sus James



Kira:
Kira seemed most sus to me when he asked about third party roles as if he was expecting something. Why would someone ask directly such a question in your first posts, seemed more like a slip up from my point of view.

Also today he played extremely on the low side and he has only one post, nothing more and nothing of substance where he tried to explain his vote switch from pom to mary, saying he didn”t want to be responsible for pompom lynch~



Margi:
I don’t really have a read on Margi, only that she sided with Shad a bit in the shad x pompom arc but she did mention that she wouldn’t focus on it to much as this type of argument ends up in townie x townie fights during her last games. I agree with her on the cinera not making sense part, other than that I have nothing to go on.



Scav:
Well, like I said yesterday, senpai mentioned that he rarely hints in the first days, I didn’t expect him to go for a full reveal. Still the sickly secondary role can be assigned to mafias as well so at the moment that does not confirm him in my eyes ( just like sakura wasn’t confirmed in the last game ) Until we don’t get his main role~

But I do appreciate the reveal.



Tatsu:
Very low in the first day which I didn’t like, also explains all the votes she gathered.

But I understand that she might have been busy as she mentioned, as I also have been pretty busy with work for the past 2 days ( January always sucks) so for now I am putting her in the grey area as there is not much to go on





Asako:
I appreciated the early active hint.

But, still a bit iffy about shads automatic trust in asako and uber when he faced a possible lynch, and what I didn’t like is the fact that she kept switching back and forth between players.

First she voted pom saying that she is sus for wasting her first vote on shad.

Then she mentions that she doesn’t understand why seraph is being voted instead of GB who reminded her of him when he was SS. Then why didn’t she switch to GB and kept her vote on pom at the time and this is also a reason why I mentioned her yesterday in the quatrinity ( shad trying to confirm her last minute saying if he dies she should be trusted along with uber and now her lack of understanding why seraph was being voted ) After that the next day seeing as seraph dies and flipping scum she automatically trusted pom, which she was pinpointing a day before and still throwing a bit of shade at her saying that her senpai might think that pom is a tp.

Today she also takes GB side by asking why scav voted so fast for him even though GB is sick and she was tunneling him a day before.







Mary:
I was a bit iffy due to her laying low and having Gry as her senpai, who is a very active player.

But I do trust what she said about shad changing his vote to pom although pom had already switched from him, because to me that still seemed like a revenge vote. I hope we can see more from her in the next days.



Sam:
I am sad that my revenge vote didn’t lynch him, would be funny though if he would be bomb this game kukukukuku

Leaving all the jokes aside, it feels odd to me that he dismissed the Santa theory so easily in the begining even though pretty much everyone agreed that there might be a tp in the game and that santa might be plausible.

Even though scavs reveal to be sickly also dismantles a possible santa at the moment.

So far, although I hate to admit it, he seems pretty town in my eyes for the moment, although I still don’t understand what type of passive he might be.





Pom:
Seemed very aggressive in her first day, but i can understand where she came from as there were little posts to grasp by and shad started early on pushing for information.

What was a bit sus to me how sure she was that seraph is the mafia when she vote locked him and said “not letting mafia have to many options here” Considering that it was a last minute vote change and seraph wasn’t defending himself. I can understand voting for him as he was laying low but the sureness she expressed was alarming for a D1 vote when most of the votes are pretty random and there were other pretty low posters who were good candidates who also grabbed a lot of votes for a first day lynch like tatsu.

She mostly agrees that the asako shad trust is a bit sus but at the same time she doesn’t seem to have an opinion on others. For now she is in the grey area



Shad:
Recap, still don’t like the trust bond. I don’t like the switch the next day saying that pom is now green because “it is unlikely to throw a strongman like that”. In my senpais opinion, strongman isn’t such an important role considering that it is only useful against bulletproof, so if yesterday there were 2 mafias on the chopping block and scum had to choose between strong man and a better role like detective than ofc strongman would fall and that would also explain why seraph chose to not try to save himself.

I disliked his approach towards Cinera when he said he doesn’t consider him a new player although cinera only has 1 game under the belt. I mean, Cinera is sussy sus, extra sussy sus, but he is still a new player, no reason to be that harsh. Give him a fair read but he also needs a chance to learn.



Shad the way you are hinting you might either be one shot action or traitor trying to get recruited. Which could be highly likely as there were no kills last night, so one way to prove is either by investigation or by your further actions. I stand to be corrected. So shad for me you are in a neutral zone at the moment.



Uber:
Uber for both me and senpai who have not played with him before screams Evil in a good way. Send our kind regards to your senpai~

He is mainly asking the right questions left and right he is also giving good explanations he is not beating around the bush and is pretty calculated. I really hope you are one of the good ones.







Hahaha, you thought this would be a short post:hurr


Edit: removed the wild hurr emoji that was inserted randomly and deleted 2 of my words
I agree with you on most of what you said. If Cinera is lynched and he turns out to be mafia, a lot of things will start to make sense.
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Just realized you didn't say anything on GB though lol
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Never mind, he is mishoda xd
 

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I agree with you on most of what you said. If Cinera is lynched and he turns out to be mafia, a lot of things will start to make sense.
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Just realized you didn't say anything on GB though lol
Dis
Gb is Mishoda ~


misho + panda = Mishoda
 

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TL;DR: Votekill Cinera, + I'm wary of GB and Kira. I'm keeping an eye out for Brandish and James (until proven wrong). Most people are grey to me, I need to reread some people posts and interactions.

Cinera: Well I do agree with the consensus that he doesn't seems town at all. I just don't get the reasons to vote the top leading votes cause they're probably sus so it's alright if they die and then well "no I don't think it's okay anymore for them to die".

I won't buy any reasoning for the last minutes votes. Both for people who were there the whole time (cause you had all the time to vote then) nor those who suddenly appeared out of nowhere (really convenient).

GB: He's less trollish, but that doesn't make him more innocent in my eyes tho I think my last game with him was the BnHa one and we were both mafia and he was quite engaged to seem town, so he could be attemting to lay low for roles reasons but still.

James: For someone who think I don't talk enough/I'm too inactive I haven't seen much of you either so that's really funny. Or is the fact that you can prove your innocence giving you a pass to be less active ? It's a bold hint so I will believe it for now as long as the big reveal doesn't happen too late.

Scav: He revealed his second role so as long as the sick mention keep appearing he's off the hook.

Kira: Only appeared once today which is kinda concerning at 1hour before the end. I've never played with him so I don't know what to think. Is he the VERY quiet type or is he just busy/unavailable. I didn't like the last minute change like for the others so I'm keeping an eye on him.

Margi: I'm kinda neutral to her. Nothing really caught my eye yet. I might have missed something, I'll reread her during the NP.

Asako: Since I've seen her carry an entire game, she does feel a little quieter. Although we can't always rely on the same people. For now I'm neutral to her, just keeping an eye on her interactions as other people mentions.

Mary: For now her playstyle feels the same as always, I'm not good at reading her, I think I've only ever seen her as townie since her debuts tho.

Sam: Like for GB I remember his mafia very engaged self from Bnha game, so I feel like he's too quiet.

Shad: I'll never trust Shad again so he'll forever be always in my grey zones.

Uber: Probably the most engaged of us, he feels town for now.

Brandish: He didn't say much and I'm not sure I've ever played with him but apparently he's being more cooperative that usual so that's good. The list of his former roles is half mafia roles tho so he's by default in the list of people I don't trust.

Have I forgotten anyone ?
 

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Also, @AwkwardMisha I gave thoughts on some players, not in all of them though. I don't trust Shad, James and also suspect Brandish, but more the former ones.
 

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I also don't think GB is mafia, maybe TP, but if anything I'd say Shad could be the TP here with how he is trying to be in good books with others. Unless GB's mafia family would pull a 200IQ move in wasting an action on them, which I think is not worth it considering they could block a townie and that it's much more important for them to block townies, it makes less problems to have day control with votes.
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TL;DR: Votekill Cinera, + I'm wary of GB and Kira. I'm keeping an eye out for Brandish and James (until proven wrong). Most people are grey to me, I need to reread some people posts and interactions.

Cinera: Well I do agree with the consensus that he doesn't seems town at all. I just don't get the reasons to vote the top leading votes cause they're probably sus so it's alright if they die and then well "no I don't think it's okay anymore for them to die".

I won't buy any reasoning for the last minutes votes. Both for people who were there the whole time (cause you had all the time to vote then) nor those who suddenly appeared out of nowhere (really convenient).

GB: He's less trollish, but that doesn't make him more innocent in my eyes tho I think my last game with him was the BnHa one and we were both mafia and he was quite engaged to seem town, so he could be attemting to lay low for roles reasons but still.

James: For someone who think I don't talk enough/I'm too inactive I haven't seen much of you either so that's really funny. Or is the fact that you can prove your innocence giving you a pass to be less active ? It's a bold hint so I will believe it for now as long as the big reveal doesn't happen too late.

Scav: He revealed his second role so as long as the sick mention keep appearing he's off the hook.

Kira: Only appeared once today which is kinda concerning at 1hour before the end. I've never played with him so I don't know what to think. Is he the VERY quiet type or is he just busy/unavailable. I didn't like the last minute change like for the others so I'm keeping an eye on him.

Margi: I'm kinda neutral to her. Nothing really caught my eye yet. I might have missed something, I'll reread her during the NP.

Asako: Since I've seen her carry an entire game, she does feel a little quieter. Although we can't always rely on the same people. For now I'm neutral to her, just keeping an eye on her interactions as other people mentions.

Mary: For now her playstyle feels the same as always, I'm not good at reading her, I think I've only ever seen her as townie since her debuts tho.

Sam: Like for GB I remember his mafia very engaged self from Bnha game, so I feel like he's too quiet.

Shad: I'll never trust Shad again so he'll forever be always in my grey zones.

Uber: Probably the most engaged of us, he feels town for now.

Brandish: He didn't say much and I'm not sure I've ever played with him but apparently he's being more cooperative that usual so that's good. The list of his former roles is half mafia roles tho so he's by default in the list of people I don't trust.

Have I forgotten anyone ?
Me, :question
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Also, Votekill Shad <_> I won't say you're becoming the new Vandred because Vandred has the special rival place, but at least for this game, you're the vote of choice, Shad!
 

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Shad could be the TP here with how he is trying to be in good books with others.
Just wanna point out that yesterday she was on me for being too aggressive, she accused me of being a mafia trying to get noobs to reveal, today I'm too nice, so I must be the TP.
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@Lady pompom if they was a recruitment yesterday, either by mafia or mentor, who do you think had a chance of being recruited for each case?
 

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Just wanna point out that yesterday she was on me for being too aggressive, she accused me of being a mafia trying to get noobs to reveal, today I'm too nice, so I must be the TP.
And I want to point out that both are anti-town and profit from getting ppl to talk. Plus I believe you're mafia with how Asako might have bene trying to save you, and you're very fine with the lynch today most likely because he isn't one of your party, but town. Anyways, thing may change depending on if Cinera is truly town, which I think he is.
 

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And I want to point out that both are anti-town and profit from getting ppl to talk. Plus I believe you're mafia with how Asako might have bene trying to save you, and you're very fine with the lynch today most likely because he isn't one of your party, but town. Anyways, thing may change depending on if Cinera is truly town, which I think he is.
Oh you think he is town, you wait until 10 min is left to share this info :)
 

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@Shad , you posted after my post, so I will tag you here, well, I don't really know, maybe someone like Misha or James with his "self confirmable" role since recruiting him could deprive town from a possible daykill role.
 

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@Shad , you posted after my post, so I will tag you here, well, I don't really know, maybe someone like Misha or James with his "self confirmable" role since recruiting him could deprive town from a possible daykill role.
Yeah this makes sense, I was mostly looking at who was currently confirmed, but seraph is an option as well.
 
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