Sure , but she is still a subordinate , when she could have a real force of her own .
She does not have any force of her own , were she to quit zahard army , her own men could be chasing her , while even when gustang betrayed zahard , his fully seem full under him .
If Adori was as strong as her current ranking indicates , i see no reason for her to be a subordinate .
So she is ranked 7 , stronger that most FH if i understand you guys well , she is just behind Hon and Edhuan in strenght , but stronger than most FH , yet her title and autority is inferior to most FH ?
Do you personally think any FH would accept such a deal ?
In the end she is still a subordinate of a irregular , like most other beast that you think could rival a FH .
You're not making a clear argument here as to why she
needs to do such a thing. Maybe if she were to oppose Zahard, which she apparently has no interest in. She's clearly happy with her current status. At least as far as we know so far. She's a Zahard lackey.
Everyone has a boss, dude. Even the other FH's see Zahard as a king. Zahard himself is owned by the tower limiting his travels upward. And/or the admin which he cannot oppose. And his own contract may be the 'shackles' we have heard about from an admin, so he may have limited his own self. And Zahard's ass could be wiped by ANY Axis, possibly even other irregulars like Enryu and Urek IF they wanted to.
The point is,
there is always a bigger fish in the sea, even to the FH's and Zahard. Having a 'family' or a clan isn't the be-all, end-all.
If having a family was only about having a strong fighting force, then Adori is ALREADY THERE - a family of an army as it were. No one in the Tower questions her authority at the level she operates at, probably even other FH's as she is a direct proxy for their king, Zahard. Her rank proves she has either the power or the authority (or even both) that even EXCEEDS other FH's save 4.
It's kind of your own headcanon that she's unhappy, unfulfilled, or 'needs' to have a family to prove her strength to you or anyone else in the tower or readership. The story doesn't seem to indicate that at all in any way.
You didn't make a counterpoint actually given that if you really read you would see that my point is that Luslec is irrelevant to them and they don't care .
Actually, I did. It's because you can't see past your headcanon that the FH's "don't care about Luslec" which is far from confirmed and remains unproven, and even unlikely considering everything holistically surrounding Luslec and FUG's lore and actions.
I mean you guys can say , Zahard wiped and cursed ancient beast because they represented a threath to FH , yet Luslec is also a threat according to you , yet no FH bother to kill him .
With any critical thought you'd see that this means either a) Luslec is even stronger or harder to kill than the ancients (at least as an individual, maybe), or b) they can't find him to pin him down (which is a strength in of itself - the ability to remain hidden and fight guerrilla-style) and you can't compare the two because they haven't had an equal squaring off. So that's a bit apples to oranges. Beasts are probably easier to find and fight against than an entity with higher functions and strategy, and hiding abilities.
Besides, Zahard CLEARLY didn't finish the job with the ancients (OR LUSLEC). Which is going to bite him in the ass in the future. Probably one reason he decided to holo in to watch what went down with Akrinak. IOW, it moved his needle enough to be certain of an outcome. If he didn't give a shit he wouldn't have made an appearance at all, even if only in holo-form.
I don't think there is any evidence that FUG is a torn , to any FH .
Except the lore itself, the bio about FUG and/or Luslec (and his rank above even other FHs), Zahard moving armies to kill off ancient FUG warriors (and failing to do so), Zahard personally showing himself to put down Khel's rebellion, Gustang's knowledge of the thorn which FUG increasingly posses which poses an existential threat to empire/Zahard, the Z-army's inability to ever truly eradicate them for 10's of thousands of years, princesses/great families having a standing order to fight FUG when they come across them, their comparison to WingTree which CAN rival a great family, the fact that a FH has to move to counter Luslec's actions, the fact that FUG has blue holes and elders that are even beyond the knowledge of Z empire and ranking offices, the fact that they seem to work with GongBang which extends to even outside the tower and may be a threat in of itself, the fact their scion in Enryu couldn't be stopped by any Zahard rankers if they wanted to and could even kill an admin - something even Zahard couldn't do (and if he's still alive that's even worse for empire), the fact that FoD is really egg on Zahard's face, and probably more we haven't been made aware of yet.
Yeah, I mean other than that, no thorn in empire's side at all!
What we know is FUG is a torn to most people in the GF .
Which, in turn, is a thorn in the side of their parents and clan leaders - the FH's and Zahard. Or are you suggesting they PREFER to have their children and ranks killed off by FUG?
fact is that Zahard tried to wipe out FUG when there was V and Arlene ,
TRIED to. And failed. And it seems like that war wasn't over quickly, but in fact might have taken a very long time.
geniune threath , but according to you Luslec is a threath but no FH kill him ?
What's your point? Zahard never fully defeated ANY of his enemies. Not even V and Arlen.
I mean even last arc show my point , Zahard asked Adori to destroy FUG , which would also mean killing Luslec right ?
Maybe. It clearly won't happen. It's NOT happening. And the 'ask' to fight FUG (again, btw, this hasn't been their first fight indicating FUG wouldn't even exist if Zahard had put it down previously when they battled) indicates exactly what I've been saying - that FUG is a problem. That problem has gotten worse than ever with the inclusion of Baam and Gustang's defection (along with his acquiring the bracelet or tech that Zahard fears). So Zahard can't just pretend they aren't a problem anymore, he has to *actively* move (again). But that ship has sailed and he probably is just starting to realize this. Moreover, even FH's are getting off their asses now. Baam isn't qualified to fight one, but he will be.
Was that Zahard couldn't have asked Adori before ? Nope Zahard likely didn't care enough .
Again,
there are STANDING ORDERS to fight and kill/detain anyone FUG. So, yes, he did 'care'.
FUG just wasn't centralized like it is now, coalescing around a key figure - Baam and in a key location - in the Nest (or the Wall or the Last Station previously). It's likely that Adori cannot even find Luslec if she wanted to, regardless of the orders to be carried out (which aren't being carried out successfully).
Now represents a chance to strike a blow against a FUG that is unusually grouped together, whereas before they acted more independently from the shadows and were harder to kill. FUG hadn't previously fought out in the open, more like terrorists and guerrilla fighters. Now, they are openly attacking on large battlefields - the Wall or the Cage.
And, before FUG didn't have a Baam. Zahard is growing increasingly desperate to kill him before it is too late, but may not realize it is in fact too late.
Keep in mind that empire is not all-knowing. They weren't even aware of YHS/EVK operating under their very own noses on 2F, busy looking for irregulars to be used against them. RED wasn't even aware of YHS's powers and actions when RED was sent to deal with the fake princess (indicating intelligence gaps on FUG). The Cage can teleport. Blue holes aren't getting ranks assessed.
All this leads to the conclusion that Zahard's empire has no idea where FUG's operatives are at any moment. They can want to kill them until they are blue in the face, but it doesn't matter if they can't find them.
Besides, empire has fought FUG before. So the argument that they don't matter because this is the first time empire has gone to battle with FUG is moot, and a non-argument, as empire has actively fought them before.
But moreover, you're conflating an ideology which cannot be killed with an existential threat. No one is arguing FUG can kill a FH or Zahard, even if their might is combined against the later. BUT, without the immortality contract we don't know how exposed the FH's truly are. Can they be rivaled on strength? Even a FH cannot fight an army of too many, right? At some point they'd wear down. Again, immortality aside. And they know that irregulars joining FUG - and/or the thorn - are the true threat in a one-on-one sense. This gives them the capacity to be an actual lethal threat. You'd not want a 'religion' seeking out such a weapon, or beings coming in the tower and being sympathetic to such a cause. You'd want to wipe it out before a Baam or an Enryu or an Urek enters. Or before they can finalize the thorn. Zahard et al have been unsuccessful in wiping out FUG and Luslec, and if they had been it wouldn't matter if a Baam entered, or thorn fragments sat around, unused. So, of course FUG represents a threat to the status quo, and would be eliminated if it could have been. FUG's biggest threat always has been its FUTURE threat.
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