Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter(by alpha scans)----
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DUde maschenny going to get imprisoned or die? they are going to find out they were betrayed by her, kallavna lyborick beat her easily. together
 

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DUde maschenny going to get imprisoned or die? they are going to find out they were betrayed by her, kallavna lyborick beat her easily. together
fool, "he" will hear you and if "he" hears you no one here will be able to save your poor soul. don't open the pandora's box
 

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There's nothing about Adori being one of the 10 families, it's just a theory that by the way is already bankrupt because it doesn't make sense for SIU to hide it.

As for the rest, it has already been said that if Luslec appears, an FH will move, Lich said that Wolhaiksong has the power to go against Zahard's army, it wouldn't make sense for him to talk about the entire organization if it was just Urek's power.

Enne proved so strong that when he went mad, Zahard had to act directly.

Molic fought Zahard directly.


Not to mention there's the main point: the ratings, they are full of inconsistencies.

In the end, it's much more likely that in fact no non-irregular can have a fight with an FH, but going by Gustang's lines is a mistake. Both he and Trau were blindly arrogant. Trau says there's nothing he can't control in the tower, and we have Yasratcha, Nen Nen, WW, and Yama.

In summary, as long as SIU doesn't put an end to it and give us the reason why these 5 people are ahead of some FH in the ranking, there will always be room for this discussion.
Adori has Zahard's blood/power.

Enne went mad from igniting two 13 month weapons at the same time, not because of her blood and was captured by a contingent of princesses, Zahard imprisoned her after her capture.

We don't know if Molic fought Zahard directly, we know he's an opponent Zahard respects. What that means is unclear.

The ratings mean nothing in terms of battle power. Especially in relation to irregulars with absolute contracts. I repeat, if it were the case that an individual existed who could rival a full blown irregular or a FH we'd already clearly know about it and who it is.

Wolhaiksong rivalling the GFs or Zahard is due to Urek. That much is clear. On the workshop, I find that curious by Khun Lych, but we'll see. But if Masceth had the power to rival a FH, it'd be common knowledge. I don't think he does. My best guess is that in terms of size only Wolhaiksong and the Workshop have similar military power as the GFs. Not that other than Urek, both organisations have anyone who could equal a FH.
 

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I trying to stimulate his mind because when Mas don’t appear in a chapter the shinsu around his brain turn black and i want him to say something like: traumerei spear was not made of pure shinsu so Mas is better spearbearer and now for sure i know she can stall him.
He is a simp, but he isnt crazy enough
 

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Adori has Zahard's blood/power.

Enne went mad from igniting two 13 month weapons at the same time, not because of her blood and was captured by a contingent of princesses, Zahard imprisoned her after her capture.

We don't know if Molic fought Zahard directly, we know he's an opponent Zahard respects. What that means is unclear.

The ratings mean nothing in terms of battle power. Especially in relation to irregulars with absolute contracts. I repeat, if it were the case that an individual existed who could rival a full blown irregular or a FH we'd already clearly know about it and who it is.

Wolhaiksong rivalling the GFs or Zahard is due to Urek. That much is clear. On the workshop, I find that curious by Khun Lych, but we'll see. But if Masceth had the power to rival a FH, it'd be common knowledge. I don't think he does. My best guess is that in terms of size only Wolhaiksong and the Workshop have similar military power as the GFs. Not that other than Urek, both organisations have anyone who could equal a FH.
Do you think a crazy Yuri would be the same as a crazy Enne? No, enne is strong and came in 7th place without the position of army commander, in case you want to claim influence.

What is the point of speaking Wolhaiksong and not Urek Mazino?

The thing is, about the strongest non-irregulars, whether here or there, we've already gotten hints of how powerful they are.

EVK already said that for the top 300 you need to beat someone in that position and even if it's a special case, there's no reason for an FH to have less influence than any of those mentioned. That is, there is something that makes them rank above an FH, whether it's strength or something else, still needs to be confirmed. It's not even 20 chapters since we had the full name of an FH, are you really raising the flag that we would already know? I could agree with you on any other work, but not on an SIU work that is horny about not revealing anything.

I don't know why you think this is so absurd when the possibility exists, however remote.
 

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Top regular vs FH is a tiresome "debate" (dispute) that is not even interesting to read anymore. Especially when he repeats the same thing. This chapter does not serve any side yet for God's sake
 

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He is a simp, but he isnt crazy enough
You must have missed the day he said that Maschenny would be able to stop Traumerai for Baam to escape, or when he said she is capable of manipulating fate, oh and best of all: that Baam's biggest prize in the nest will be Maschenny Zahard.
 

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I think we get it clear this time right?
I mean only BH stronger or in the same level as WW and Yas are
Owl, spider and Horse..
Not beaskin is allowed to see Traumerei face because their eyes get burned so horse say:

That being stated mean the reason not other BH is allowed to see FH face is because they are to weak to be in his presence.
 

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i knew that yas would betray wangwang. strange that there were people telling me that they didnt think so, everything in the story was literally spelling out the upcoming betrayal and yet some couldnt see it coming interesting.

to be honest that all i really got from this chapter. its not really a chapter i cared about and i cant wait for this flashback to be over at this point,
 

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Traumerei is like Medusa. The beastmen who saw him got their eyes burned. I thought the warning is simply because of his high authority in the Tower. Turns out it's due to his Medusa like ability.
  • Gran De Jah gained the ability to see the future from seeing Enryu.
  • People went insane from seeing Phantaminum.
  • People go blind from seeing Traumerei.

It sounds like gazing upon the visage of a fully-fledged Irregular that doesn't suppress their presence has esoteric effects.

It really fits the theme of Divinity that the Great Warriors have. The Beastmen went blind because they dared to gaze upon the visage of God.

It could also fit with the theme of worthiness. Where people say that they are not worthy to say the names of the Great Warriors.

Those Beastmen were not worthy to look at Traumerei.


It would be a nice explanation for why Zahard doesn't show himself but instead sends holograms. Perhaps his presence is so overpowering that if he appears in person, his Army would be unable to function.
 
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Do you think a crazy Yuri would be the same as a crazy Enne? No, enne is strong and came in 7th place without the position of army commander, in case you want to claim influence.

What is the point of speaking Wolhaiksong and not Urek Mazino?

The thing is, about the strongest non-irregulars, whether here or there, we've already gotten hints of how powerful they are.

EVK already said that for the top 300 you need to beat someone in that position and even if it's a special case, there's no reason for an FH to have less influence than any of those mentioned. That is, there is something that makes them rank above an FH, whether it's strength or something else, still needs to be confirmed. It's not even 20 chapters since we had the full name of an FH, are you really raising the flag that we would already know? I could agree with you on any other work, but not on an SIU work that is horny about not revealing anything.

I don't know why you think this is so absurd when the possibility exists, however remote.
I don't understand the point of Yuri... Enne was captured by a contingent of princesses, Zahard did not need to move personally.

Common sense dictates that since FHs have been inactive since the Genesis era, it's quite plausible that more active high rankers will surpass them in the rankings. That much is easy to understand.

What flag am I raising? Long before the introduction of Traum, the topic of the absoluteness of FHs has been discussed by characters in the story. And their godlike status and power is unquestionable. And this is a view held by both those who are in favor of the Zahard empire and those against it. If anything, you the reader who thinks otherwise is the one whose view is a contradiction of the facts of the story.
 

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Maybe. But before a dragon, there's no difference between a mosquito and an eagle. They are all insignificant.
We still don't know whether the strongest non-irregulars aren't dragons themselve or at least something close to it (like a wyvern).
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

I mean.... Look at how Truam addresses them; creatures, trifle, animals. Gustang calls them bugs, vermin.
Which only implies that the LPB family has no one who can fight a FH to a certain extent but it ends there.
 

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That being stated mean the reason not other BH is allowed to see FH face is because they are to weak to be in his presence.
If I'm not mistaken Perseus speaks some BH, then there must be a few others, like Orari.
 

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Enough of that debate here. It's endless...
 

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Ok, so I'm a bit lost with this longass flashback, let me make a summary of what I got:

  1. WW and Yas are fellow survivors of the same experiments. They end up climbing the tower together, and Yas likes this partnership even if he acts all cat-like claiming not to care.
  2. They eventually get recalled by Traumerei to serve him. WW is happy to serve this asshole, like a good loyal puppy who won't fight his owner even if he's being mistreated. Yas dislikes.
  3. They meet NenNen, host of one Acrinak ancient, and Traumerei wants WW to breed a child with her, which happens after way too much drama, resulting in Yama being born. But then he sends WW to have Paul with someone else, and Yas suggests revolt.
  4. NN is killed by Traumerei because she's too weak a host for Acrinak to go full power, and pleads for Acrinak to protect her children. Acrinak wordlessly goes into Yama, who probably doesn't even know he's the new host.
  5. Yas tries to insist WW escape with him, but WW won't do that or fight his master even after he shows up with NN's corpse. WW pleads to become a big punching bag so that his children are allowed to live
So... I think Yas probably cares about Yama because he thinks Yama is the strongest child (and he sort of liked NN, although not nearly as much as Yama). He probably wants Yama to reveal that he has inherited WW's ability to be able to resist dominion (i.e: be strong enough to fight Traumerei), and he has been trying to make Yama stronger by killing the dog people and generally being a great asshole for a long time.

Hurting the people you care about and damaging lots of things in a chaotic way is quite a cat-like behaviour, I'll give you that.

But this flashback is becoming a bit too long to explain that Yama is going to get a massive power-up soon enough, even if it also gives us a hint as to how much of an Asshole Traumerei is
 

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I think we get it clear this time right?
I mean only BH stronger or in the same level as WW and Yas are
Owl, spider and Horse..
Not beaskin is allowed to see Traumerei face because their eyes get burned so horse say:

That being stated mean the reason not other BH is allowed to see FH face is because they are to weak to be in his presence.
May I make an observation: I don't think I see or read anything in the picture panel posted that suggests that being in the FH's presence would cause harm to the weak. What I understand from what see is that Owl is saying that the weak are not worthy in terms of status, to be in the FH's presence .
 

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Then why bother 😑
These FH are full of inconsistency. Just do things as their mood dictates. One time he plays like as king, other time he act like a tragic heroine betrayed by their lover. Crazy bored old warrior
Rule number one
"King can do whatever he want and no one can't obey it"

So if the king want his minion to go to war then it's the war lol
 

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You must have missed the day he said that Maschenny would be able to stop Traumerai for Baam to escape, or when he said she is capable of manipulating fate, oh and best of all: that Baam's biggest prize in the nest will be Maschenny Zahard.
Well i guess he is crazy enough
 

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Damn I hope he's not talking about Arlene. That makes like 3 irregulars she broke their hearts.

So Yama has the power of an ancient. That's cool to know. He's already powerful and lastly we got to see wangwang transformation.
 

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what stops Zahard from fighting Baam, his greatest enemy, himself?
 
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