Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

[Jyu viole grace]

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Tower Of God Chapter 529 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin

 

[sazon]

I think you guys are confusing things, the power to burn people's eyes belongs to the eel, even Nen Nen says it's hard to look at that.

If it was Trau's power, Lyborick and YHS would have been blinded by now.

 

[paulbee]

Tower Of God Chapter 529 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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Yay!



Poor Nen Nen, I have never seen a girl so badly abused and brutalized in comics...(at least the kosher comics). She got shafted everywhere she turned.

 

[Ignorant]

Poor Nen Nen, I have never seen a girl so badly abused and brutalized in comics...(at least the kosher comics). She got shafted everywhere she turned.

I think she deserve to die like that..

 

[paulbee]

Tower Of God Chapter 529 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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Yay!

It's out on Alpha scans

 

[Ertegun]

I saw some posts about a shinheuh that traumerei can't control, when was it mentioned ?

 

[lianecel]

This is what he said next:

Ok "two of other who strenght we cant dare to challenge"

The first one is kirin, and who is the other one??

 

[lazybum]

I saw some posts about a shinheuh that traumerei can't control, when was it mentioned ?

Chapter 528, Kirin asked Rei what's the state of the Nest. Rei said the beast doesn't understand his will, and assume it will likely stay like that.

 

[DeadCosmos]

nennen is dumb character really... definitely deserves to die haha , idiot believing that dog

 

[cash2088]

Poor nen…

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Poor nen…

A blast from the past

 

[lazybum]

Acrinak's power is limited by its host, how strong is Nen Nen then? Stronger, weaker than Yama? As Yama seems to be the new host.

Man, Rei couldn't even be touched by WW's loyalty, which is puzzling to me when he is not willing to kill WW by his hands because he raised WW. If he doesn't to kill WW by himself, I would assume that he feel something towards WW in the first place. Previous chapter, Rei did say he discarded some emotion he felt towards someone so he can get some plan to go ahead. Rei repeating that everyone under him that finds love ends up betraying him, I mean it sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy with him when how shit he treats his underlings. He has also a very unreasonably high standard from his underlings, like 100% need to be dominated otherwise you die.

After this flashback, we can appreciate how Baam need to get away from Rei.

 

[The Crypts]

It's muddier than ever actually. And, I just can't agree the discussion is pointless. It's about end-game, and this chapter dropped relevant hints.

- this chapter pointedly makes it clear that the ancient in fact could not even begin to stretch its legs against Rei. Odd to bring that up if it's not relevant no matter who would be the host. This is exactly what we are talking about when we never fully see one powered-up... they are always limited. Every time.
- this comes on a chapter where we just learned that the de facto best person in the whole fucking tower for controlling things... can't control some beast. Did he kill or seal it, we don't know. But the point is he isn't all-powerful after all, and there are clear limits to his abilities. Behind his immortality contract, he is possibly at risk from a being at least forcing him to work for it, if not even injure or kill him.
- why didn't he control the Acrinak? Why even have a convergence of two large armies - LPB and Zahard's - to take it down (which they never actually did by the way) if Rei could just waltz up to it and control it? He's CLEARLY active in his endeavors. Further, he's standing right before it now - why didn't he make the Acrinak do his bidding? Then he could have told NenNen "Stop punching yourself! Stop punching yourself!" while Acrinak danced in the palm of his hand and hit NN. Instead, he attacked the HOST and not the ancient. He certainly showed no ability to control it, as all-powerful as he should be. That's two failures in a row (beings too strong for him to control) back-to-back - say nothing of WW who he can't control either.

Also, I can't believe I have to keep saying this but: doing damage or putting up a good fight doesn't mean KILLING a FH. For all we know, the Acrinak could in fact blow past any summons Rei has and make Rei really work for a win. Not that Rei would have any threat of dying, but that's another issue entirely.



For now. Ancients are sealed but coming out of the woodwork. Urek is preoccupied (granted an irregular). Baam is a baby. Gongbang seems too busy with The Science/Fauci. Headon is up to something. Rumbles of possible admin being upset. The Thorn is coming together. Gustang has some tech that Zahard doesn't want him to have (bracelet, maybe more). FUG also has a being that can use shinwonryu (Akryung) and who knows what else. The spells that make them immortal are intact, but who knows if they can be undone. Wangnan has a sword that will undoubtedly be pretty OP. Etc.



No one disputes that FH's have overwhelming power - and an immortality contract.

We just don't know the exact limits or limitations, and if there's anything in the tower than can potentially pose a threat. For instance, if GongBong really can access outside of the tower tech, could they not access a weapon that can kill a god too? After all, that's what the Thorn is. Spells are pretty OP, and rare, and off limits even (probably for a reason as they pose a threat). But, what if a strong spell-caster could undo a spell associated with 100F contract? Arlen was able to beat her spell seemingly, oops that wasn't supposed to be possible. How can a being that's not an irregular use shinwonryu (both rice pot guardian and Akryung, maybe more) - that's supposed to be impossible. What does Wangnan have in his possession; can it pose a threat to an irregular or destroy their contract (it seems like it's pretty OP, and possibly has ties to Zahard's monster)? Can ancients zord together to be stronger than a FH (rhetorical - we don't know, but they may be working towards that)? I said stronger, not lethal - there are things worse than death when death is impossible. Can an admin body or admin baby be used against the FHs? After all, the contracts come from admin, so maybe admin flesh can render their immortality inert. soooo many etcs.



Again, you must have read a different chapter.

WW is the idiot.

Yas is the unsung hero.

The bread and butter of your rebuttal is that since the FHs have been shown to be unable to achieve this or that, then it is indeed possible that those who rank higher than them or similar to them on the rankings are stronger or similar to them in strength.This is an obvious non sequitur.

My submission has never been that FHs or Zahard or the irregulars could do whatever they please, if that were indeed the case, many aspects of the story would be pointless. They're still shackled and limited. I have merely done my best to acquaint those who make the proposition that certain non irregulars can equal or best the FHs, with the facts of the story.

I will state it again as simply as possible. Every single character in the story who has talked about the FHs and Zahard has one common view, and that is that in terms of ability, they are in a totally different league to non irregulars. Every. Single. Character. Regardless of their approval or disapproval of the FHs. If it were common knowledge, that Luslec or Molic One or Adori or Enne or Masceth or whoever else could rival them, then it'd be stated already. And other than Luslec who lives in hiding from the FHs and Zahard, every other character suggested as a rival to these people are subservient to Zahard.

Ancients? Khel Hellam is certainly not weak like NN, he met the FHs, he should have met Luslec, and he knows the difference.

Who else? Eduan's literally got an open invitation for anyone to come at them, which of these potentials people hap on about have taken the opportunity to show him a thing or two in all the eons the offer has been in place for?

I'm not presenting a theory nor making an assumption. I'm stating the exact views and scenarios current in the story. If your proposition is indeed valid and there is indeed evidence to suggest those who are equal or greater to the FHs in ranking are similarly equal or greater in battle power, and that there are non irregular characters other than administrators who have the capacity to combat or defeat them, why not present a view from a character within the story itself to corroborate your point?

The writer has up until this point, created an identity for these irregulars and FHs, why is it so difficult to accept?

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 7, 2022, Original Post Date: Feb 7, 2022 ---

It's muddier than ever actually. And, I just can't agree the discussion is pointless. It's about end-game, and this chapter dropped relevant hints.

- this chapter pointedly makes it clear that the ancient in fact could not even begin to stretch its legs against Rei. Odd to bring that up if it's not relevant no matter who would be the host. This is exactly what we are talking about when we never fully see one powered-up... they are always limited. Every time.
- this comes on a chapter where we just learned that the de facto best person in the whole fucking tower for controlling things... can't control some beast. Did he kill or seal it, we don't know. But the point is he isn't all-powerful after all, and there are clear limits to his abilities. Behind his immortality contract, he is possibly at risk from a being at least forcing him to work for it, if not even injure or kill him.
- why didn't he control the Acrinak? Why even have a convergence of two large armies - LPB and Zahard's - to take it down (which they never actually did by the way) if Rei could just waltz up to it and control it? He's CLEARLY active in his endeavors. Further, he's standing right before it now - why didn't he make the Acrinak do his bidding? Then he could have told NenNen "Stop punching yourself! Stop punching yourself!" while Acrinak danced in the palm of his hand and hit NN. Instead, he attacked the HOST and not the ancient. He certainly showed no ability to control it, as all-powerful as he should be. That's two failures in a row (beings too strong for him to control) back-to-back - say nothing of WW who he can't control either.

Also, I can't believe I have to keep saying this but: doing damage or putting up a good fight doesn't mean KILLING a FH. For all we know, the Acrinak could in fact blow past any summons Rei has and make Rei really work for a win. Not that Rei would have any threat of dying, but that's another issue entirely.



For now. Ancients are sealed but coming out of the woodwork. Urek is preoccupied (granted an irregular). Baam is a baby. Gongbang seems too busy with The Science/Fauci. Headon is up to something. Rumbles of possible admin being upset. The Thorn is coming together. Gustang has some tech that Zahard doesn't want him to have (bracelet, maybe more). FUG also has a being that can use shinwonryu (Akryung) and who knows what else. The spells that make them immortal are intact, but who knows if they can be undone. Wangnan has a sword that will undoubtedly be pretty OP. Etc.



No one disputes that FH's have overwhelming power - and an immortality contract.

We just don't know the exact limits or limitations, and if there's anything in the tower than can potentially pose a threat. For instance, if GongBong really can access outside of the tower tech, could they not access a weapon that can kill a god too? After all, that's what the Thorn is. Spells are pretty OP, and rare, and off limits even (probably for a reason as they pose a threat). But, what if a strong spell-caster could undo a spell associated with 100F contract? Arlen was able to beat her spell seemingly, oops that wasn't supposed to be possible. How can a being that's not an irregular use shinwonryu (both rice pot guardian and Akryung, maybe more) - that's supposed to be impossible. What does Wangnan have in his possession; can it pose a threat to an irregular or destroy their contract (it seems like it's pretty OP, and possibly has ties to Zahard's monster)? Can ancients zord together to be stronger than a FH (rhetorical - we don't know, but they may be working towards that)? I said stronger, not lethal - there are things worse than death when death is impossible. Can an admin body or admin baby be used against the FHs? After all, the contracts come from admin, so maybe admin flesh can render their immortality inert. soooo many etcs.



Again, you must have read a different chapter.

WW is the idiot.

Yas is the unsung hero.

WW being the idiot and Yas an unsung hero is certainly interesting.

Loyalty and magnanimity is idiocy?

Scheming to destroy a companion's life because you disagree with him is heroic?

I'd like to see the reasoning behind that.

 

[cash2088]

A blast from the past

Lol, I’m still lurking around!

 

[Phantaminum]

1) Maybe there is still a tiny part of Zahard who wants to see what Bam will become, or who wants a real challenge after Thousands of years of dominance with abject boredom.

I don't think he fears the admins so muchm I think they are kinda stuck with each other.




2) There is also a mild fear of Phanta and Enryuu possible as mentioned above. However this did not stop Zahard from trying to kill Bam on The Hidden Floor. Bam barely got away because 3) data Zahard weakened his resolve to kill him a bit, with some Talk-no-Jutsu.


I kind of think it's a mixture of the 3 possibilities above.

I think Bam is more of like the child of prophecy that was created by a God outside the tower destined to kill Zahard to open upper floors. If you guys remember Garam told Bam "You are the child of prophecy". Phantaminum, as an Axis, was that God's messenger to relay the message about a Child that is prophesied to kill Zahard. That was why Phantaminum did not kill Zahard because he was just a messenger from the God outside the tower. The reason why Zahard have been wanting to kill Bam.

 

[Sousko]

People didn’t pay attention to the part where the ancient said he couldn’t use his full-power because his host was too weak. It’ll be way stronger with somebody like Yama as it’s host. Sadly I still don’t see anyone there beating Traum Bam included or even laying scratch on him. He only used 1 of how 20+ Personal beast and easily beat the strongest ancient. I’m really suprised how there was even a war in the first place if all he top heavy hitters that opposed the full heads were just fodder. These dudes seem like that didn’t struggle once as they climbed the tower.

 

[Merrie]

I think Bam is more of like the child of prophecy that was created by a God outside the tower destined to kill Zahard to open upper floors. If you guys remember Garam told Bam "You are the child of prophecy". Phantaminum, as an Axis, was that God's messenger to relay the message about a Child that is prophesied to kill Zahard. That was why Phantaminum did not kill Zahard because he was just a messenger from the God outside the tower. The reason why Zahard have been wanting to kill Bam.

wasnt Enryu the messenger of god? he delivered the thorn and stuff, let the boy fulfil it than kill zahard himself.

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these bits of wangwang/yasratcha stuff reminds me of Bam and Gustang's encounter in FoD where Gustang told Bam who was he to force his opinion on others just because he think it's right when the people there have made their choice already.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I'll work backwards - mostly to address your miscategorizations of my posts - but this is the most glaring anyways:

WW being the idiot and Yas an unsung hero is certainly interesting.

Loyalty and magnanimity is idiocy?

Scheming to destroy a companion's life because you disagree with him is heroic?

I'd like to see the reasoning behind that.

Most here get it - I'm hardly in the minority (not that an appeal to the majority is important, but it just goes to show). I sometimes wonder if some have a 'better' ability to be contrarian and argumentative than to read the actual story, but I'm sure you must think the same of me.

Anyways - Yas gave WW the ability to do EXACTLY what he promised to NN. You know, to be 'loyal' as I believe that is your choice of words.

WW could have worked to save his kids, be their father and in their life, AND the dogkin from being slaughtered/used/enslaved. Oh, as well as all the other animal-kin Yas could scurry up.

Maybe he (WW) was OK with being a yes-man/dog as a slave of types, but they never got an opinion poll unless I missed it. (Not NN, not Yas, not WW's kids, and none of the animal-kin - as if it weren't obvious enough)

Part of being 'loyal' is being a father - a present father (and um, PROTECTING them), and keeping your word to your spouse/baby momma. WW failed at both spectacularly.

Let's also not forget that he only laid with NN in the first place because he was ordered to sire a child. And she, being a prisoner, complied. Not that she had much choice. Just because she was a well-kept prisoner and WW was a stud she was attracted to doesn't mean she had full ability to consent. There were obvious power dynamics and coercion going on. So, WW... what a stud. In the real world, this would be a technical rape. But I digress...

Then, post-coitus, the LEAST he could do is make a promise to NN and actually follow up with it. Spoiler: he didn't even try. Such a stud!

THEN - because this chapter didn't happen in a vacuum and one must consider the previous events/chapters as well - Yas lets WW know that his kids will be unwilling tools for Rei. He even knew the ones sent to the outskirts would be taken out. WW's reaction was 'meh'

Even upon hearing that NN was on board, WW wasn't moved. Yas brought up that he had PROMISED her.

He didn't scheme AGAINST WW, he schemed FOR him - and he told him exactly how it would play out - and when - when the new child (Paul) is taken to the mothership, it will be time. He absolutely didn't do anything that should have been surprising, and worked hard to make it work for everyone involved - from WW down to the dogkin and the kids in between - NN included.

Yas asks NN if she is SURE - she says yes and to proceed. To protect her children. She counted on and relied on WW to keep his word. She's JUST as integral as Yas in all this.

Yas then 'told on WW' which was of course fake, as his goal was to create a scenario that doesn't illicit a response from the FH (that backfired, but at least the intent counts) that also gets all the dogkin together (to be able to escape).

WW *STILL* doesn't leave even though Yas and NN's plan was telegraphed well in advance. He acts surprised, which also makes him stupid on top of everything.

Rei arrives with his dead-ass girl, and all WW can talk about is how loyal he is lol.

Only, just seconds ago Yas pointedly said: "You would rather betray your own lover // to keep your allegiance towards that damned master of yours?!!" - emphasis added. The one that can't stop talking about himself and what he wants - screw those in his circle - is none other than WW. The one that betrayed those close to him, WW. Hardly 'loyal' - and I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'magnanimous' in regards to WW. He didn't even have to die for them had he actually worked with his best friend and wife. AKA, stupid.

WW's last-minute (AFTER he had already been burned) jump on a grenade is a little bit too-little-too-late.



TLDR, the rape-on-command chad that is WW is unreliable, betrayed his wifey and her trust in him (and his promise to her to protec their fucking kids for crying out loud), his people, and his kids to being used as slaves and/or killed on a whim. It is actually WW that is the selfish person in all this, not so much Yas, who actually worked to help WW *and his people/kids/girl* - it was WW that could only talk about what HE wanted, who didn't consider the life others would have based on his actions/inaction.

You have it exactly backwards.

 

[Ignorant]

WW is good to stay loyal
Nennen Bad for want him to treasoning his master
For no reason if you take a look they was living a happy life

I wonder if the previous slayer that the Acrinak was in could do much with it. I guess not seeing as it went to WW instead.

Maybe Headon scooped up the old Slayer corpse/shell to make a different Ak...ryung? Long-shot.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 6, 2022, Original Post Date: Feb 6, 2022 ---

That's SIU as Morgan Freeman trying to cope with his fans.

that’s a big theory

 

[Urek_Mazino]

Wow, why did Z even bother wiping out the ancients if they were this weak lol.

They are not necessarily weak. They are only as strong as their hosts can handle. Nen nen was weak

 

[kkck]

Ok, read the scan... This is a fairly brutal chapter on many fronts.

On the nen nen front, the result was fairly predictable. It makes sense that nen nen would get owned, even with acrinak. The bit that wasn't so obvious would be that nen nen was too weak to wield acrinak. It's a bit weird that we never learned why nen nen was chosen, even though she wasn't all that strong apparently. She was a beastkin but she never evidenced transformation of any kind.

Regarding nen nen's last wing... I wonder if we have seen evidence of this before. Of course, yama has that thing about people who fear him being unable to hurt him which screams of acrinak but i am unsure of how this applies to doom and paul, if at all.

And then yaratcha and wang wang... I like this story. Yaratcha did ultimately sell out nen nen... though not fully unintentionally. I doubt he expected nen nen to meet a family head but at the same time he didn't actually care what happened to nen nen. he just wanted wang wang to follow him around.

From the initial spoilers it felt a bit like wang wang was a POS but reading the chapter it feels a tad more sympathetic. Being unable to beat his instincts but at the same time clearly being enraged at the master who couldn't care less about him... And then in his final act saving as many canines and yaratcha as he can. not sure of when yaratcha gets the fang though. With wang wang and nen nen dead it seems pretty improbable that doom and hi brothers would be able to escape at all. i suppose this will only be possible via yaratcha.