Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...
Let's also not forget that the eels attacks were not fatal. To Acrinak I mean.
There's a distinct possibility that ancients simply cannot be killed, but rather reincarnate. Much like their admin big brothers IMO (the nymph that came from the 'dead' admin corpse shows a life cycle that isn't stopped by conventional death as we'd know it).
Rei also did not address this.
His options were to kill it (possibly impossible), tame it (he didn't... could he??), or defeat then seal it (also didn't happen).
I actually think Yas is less of an A$$ after the flashback. He was always a friend of WW and looked out for him. Maybe he did not know how to be a good one, but in Yas's eyes, he thought of themselves as friends. This explains his complex relationship with Yama. Yas is after all still Rei's pet.
Let's also not forget that the eels attacks were not fatal. To Acrinak I mean.
There's a distinct possibility that ancients simply cannot be killed, but rather reincarnate. Much like their admin big brothers IMO (the nymph that came from the 'dead' admin corpse shows a life cycle that isn't stopped by conventional death as we'd know it).
Rei also did not address this.
His options were to kill it (possibly impossible), tame it (he didn't... could he??), or defeat then seal it (also didn't happen).
I actually think Yas is less of an A$$ after the flashback. He was always a friend of WW and looked out for him. Maybe he did not know how to be a good one, but in Yas's eyes, he thought of themselves as friends. This explains his complex relationship with Yama. Yas is after all still Rei's pet.
I actually think Yas is less of an A$$ after the flashback. He was always a friend of WW and looked out for him. Maybe he did not know how to be a good one, but in Yas's eyes, he thought of themselves as friends. This explains his complex relationship with Yama. Yas is after all still Rei's pet.
No, see, you don't understand. Yas is an irredeemable asshole that only wanted destruction on the dogs (even though proving otherwise time and time again) and WW is father of the year.
LOL. You'd think it would have found another, stronger host at some point and/or been low-key and bide its time.
Maybe it can't escape the host unless it's on the verge of death? It seems a Slayer would have been a better choice if it were making decisions based on an ideal host.
Then it picked Yama. An unproven quantity. I am guessing death is not the only way the ancient can vacate a host. Maybe it is just buying time until it finds the right host or other ancients?
Loyalty to a fault... isn't admirable.
Loyalty to a despot... isn't admirable.
Loyalty to a stranger that will damage your family, OVER your family... isn't admirable.
No one would find it admirable if I were to be loyal to a child predator, and even to the point of offering up my kids to him to keep my lifestyle. That's literally the opposite of admirable in every conceivable sense.
Just loyalty for loyalty's sake isn't the end of the conversation. The issue is whether that's admirable or not. WHO you are loyal to, just as who you aren't, matter just as much if not more.
This is beyond a silly discussion. Arguing for the sake of arguing because the guy just can not admit fault. The same guy that thinks Yas wants to kill WW and sold him out in front of the FH. I mean, what a terribly flawed and inaccurate read of the story.
This discussion is silly because of you honestly not me .
You are bringing the hitler , child predator point when that shit is irrelevant in the first place .
The point of the story was to emphasize , those beast kin nature and how they followed it no matter what .
If Rei was the best person in the world you or other would be claping him when in the end those feeling of loyalty come from the same place .
You have you own value but you don't get to decide what is valuable for other .
You still keep bringing the same point about his family , when we know from the start that WW true nature was serving someone and he never searched for a family in the first place .
Even when he fucked he was still thinking why he did it .
He never said he wanted a child in the first place .
You are asking loyalty from a guy that never actually wanted those thing .
I can understand you point and that you find stupid or not admirable , but people get decide what they find admirable or not .
I knew who WW was from the start , and in the end he lived true to who he is , he never even wanted those side thing until is boss asked him to .
I value loyalty no matter to who he is . It doesn't mean it is right , good or that WW value is a a thing we should aspire to .
Guy like , Hannibal or Genkhis khan were some of the guy that caused the most bloodshed in the history and Genghis khan was literally a psychopath , but that men was a genius and his way tactical and strategical was definitely something to be admired that doesn't mean those guy are good guy .
In the end you are bringing the hitler point which doesn't actually because and me know that WW would have followed a good guy too , and would have let down his family for example for Baam .
Crazy no one ever reads the updated t/ls!!! Traum says he is used to being betrayed for love - there is no specific incident or individual being referred to here LOL!!! It means it’s occurred more than once, this has nothing to do with V LOL
And yet we're in agreement that wouldn't have been an issue, most likely, either way - absent Rei.
And we're in agreement Rei's sudden involvement implies Yas never intended him to get involved.
So I'm still not seeing ill intent if they both agreed it was non issue if Rei didn't get involved.
I said it was romantic jealousy many chapters ago. Yas just wanted to bro out.
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A dog with human functions, higher functions. Half human, and fully capable of understanding concepts such as loyalty and family and trust and betrayal.
Which is it - is he to be commended for his exceptional loyalty as a human trait, or is he merely a dumb dog?
Let's also not forget that the eels attacks were not fatal. To Acrinak I mean.
There's a distinct possibility that ancients simply cannot be killed, but rather reincarnate. Much like their admin big brothers IMO (the nymph that came from the 'dead' admin corpse shows a life cycle that isn't stopped by conventional death as we'd know it).
Rei also did not address this.
His options were to kill it (possibly impossible), tame it (he didn't... could he??), or defeat then seal it (also didn't happen).
No, see, you don't understand. Yas is an irredeemable asshole that only wanted destruction on the dogs (even though proving otherwise time and time again) and WW is father of the year.
Then it picked Yama. An unproven quantity. I am guessing death is not the only way the ancient can vacate a host. Maybe it is just buying time until it finds the right host or other ancients?
Doom’s recollection of events and Yas’ fb is a shit show lol! Doom said he received his fang before his father died, according to Yas’ fb WW had left them for 18months before he died lol! Doom says Yama’s mother suddenly disappeared, nope they were just at training school lol! Doom, Yama, and Paul are supposed to be the new canine leaders so why were they frighteningly fleeing with all the dogs violently barking at them? And how did they know to escape at the moment and how did Yas make it all the way to them, according to the fb you need permission to use the warp gate unless you’re the FH!
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Yes because the 1st t/l that was more specific was removed and the last 2 remain and he says he is used to the occurrence!
You realize that's not the end of the flashback, right? We are missing the part between WW's death and Yas allowing Doom to escape. So far, the lore is not that messed up as you make it to be.
You realize that's not the end of the flashback, right? We are missing the part between WW's death and Yas allowing Doom to escape. So far, the lore is not that messed up as you make it to be.
Lol WW is about to die, Nen was killed a day before! WW had to have given Doom his fang over 18months ago. Doom never saw his fathers death! According to Doom his father said not to trust Yas and that he too feared him. Where do you see any of that in this fb, Yas is basically a family friend!
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S3ch84 - when did WW sense the end coming lol? It was all Yas! So WW knew he was going to die 18 months before the fact LOL!
S3ch56 - Akrinic’s actions and decision making are the complete opposite
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Lol WW is about to die, Nen was killed a day before! WW had to have given Doom his fang over 18months ago. Doom never saw his fathers death! According to Doom his father said not to trust Yas and that he too feared him. Where do you see any of that in this fb, Yas is basically a family friend!
First, Doom could've received the fang when he was born. That's the most plausible option since when Doom was giving the fang to Yama he said that Yama could die from it.
Second, it wasn't WW who told Doom to stay away from Yas. Doom being a child at the time didn't know every detail of WW and Yas' lives. You are assuming he is/was omniscient and aware of all the events. That's clearly not the case. Doom specifically says that Yas was deceiving everyone including their father while he was next to Traum because that's what he thinks happened. If he knew Yas was helping WW that would beg the question of how he knew it? If it had been common knowledge then Yas would be punished/executed by other BH or FH for it which clearly didn't happen. Moreover, it could be the case that when Doom was escaping Yas told him that he himself killed his father to make sure Doom would be fearing him even more.
Third, why the dogs were barking at them? Maybe because a rumor spread that WW betrayed Traum and obviously being children of a traitor isn't all flowers and rainbows, you know. Children can be really cruel to each other, especially when they see adults behaving the same way or allowing the abuse.
Fourth, it's been shown in this chapter that Yas used the warp gate to arrive to where WW was. It was a day before NN tried to steal the children. He was given permission to use it by Traum. I see no inconsistency here.
As for everything else, i repeat: we haven't seen everything yet. For some questions, there are no answers yet.
First, Doom could've received the fang when he was born. That's the most plausible option since when Doom was giving the fang to Yama he said that Yama could die from it.
Second, it wasn't WW who told Doom to stay away from Yas. Doom being a child at the time didn't know every detail of WW and Yas' lives. You are assuming he is/was omniscient and aware of all the events. That's clearly not the case. Doom specifically says that Yas was deceiving everyone including their father while he was next to Traum because that's what he thinks happened. If he knew Yas was helping WW that would beg the question of how he knew it? If it had been common knowledge then Yas would be punished/executed by other BH or FH for it which clearly didn't happen. Moreover, it could be the case that when Doom was escaping Yas told him that he himself killed his father to make sure Doom would be fearing him even more.
Third, why the dogs were barking at them? Maybe because a rumor spread that WW betrayed Traum and obviously being children of a traitor isn't all flowers and rainbows, you know. Children can be really cruel to each other, especially when they see adults behaving the same way or allowing the abuse.
As for everything else, i repeat: we haven't seen everything yet. For some questions, there are no answers yet.
1st of all S3ch84 Doom said he received the fang when his father sensed he was near his end, so not a child LOL! from the fb WW has been gone for over 18 months and never sensed his end lol!!! Also when and why would WW tell Doom those things about Yas his only dear friend that he choose to team up with?!?!
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Who cares what rumors the mutts heard about WW the FH wanted the 3 to lead the canines! And from what we see they are under his control currently l!
I wonder what will this flashback had to the story .
Yama for sure will get way stronger .
It introduce WW character .
But how will that story impact the dynamic between Yas and Yama .
Will they continue to fight ?
One thing that is funny , is that SIU want to make us feel pity for guy like WW and Yas when we know Yas didn't care about beast kin , same for Doom and Paul .
But again this whole thing with Yama and LPB family his weird .
- Yama was the bad guy according to Baam who wanted to save dengo dengo
- But surprise after that we learn Doom was the bad guy and Yama was the good guy all along
- But hey , you tought it would be that easy , Khell is the bad guy after all
- What do you mean Khell was supossed to be the bad guy ? No it was Yas directed by Zahard .
- Something so simple as Yas being the bad guy ? Nope WW was the dumb naive .
- But off course it was the FH being WW instinct .
I am just waiting for the guy who broke Rei heart , and see that in the Rei was himself a victim of Zahard who was also a victim of Phanta , who was also a victim of the author , who wa also victimed by someone else .
It is like seing naruto again , with those akatsuki > Pain > Obito > Madara > Kaguya
I literally hate that shit .
DO they author feel they story is more cool and complex like that ?
Rereading chapter 528, Rei said to personally deal with canines, then Kirin informed him Yas wants a royal audience. Rei understood and will take care of it.
WW & the canines in the outskirt are screwed to begin with, even before Yas reveal anything to Kirin.
On the matter of royal audience, is it related to Yas wanting to reveal NN's plan? The fact "royal" is used is suspect. If there is anyone royal within LPB, it would be Rei, not Kirin. But there is nothing "royal" in the LPB family, it seems to me related to Zahard. I think Yas here is showing us his way out : the royal army, which where Yas is in the present time, not FUG when he talked with WW.
I wonder what will this flashback had to the story .
Yama for sure will get way stronger .
It introduce WW character .
But how will that story impact the dynamic between Yas and Yama .
Will they continue to fight ?
One thing that is funny , is that SIU want to make us feel pity for guy like WW and Yas when we know Yas didn't care about beast kin , same for Doom and Paul .
Pretty sure that what this fb has established clearly is that Yas felt happiest when he was climbing the tower with WW and wanted to return to such a life. So he wanted to live freely away from Traumerei and with WW, but seeing WW die without even fighting back against his asshole master made him pretty bitter. I think Yas still wants to escape from Traumerei and secretly hopes Yama has inherited WW's ability (but not his dumb necessity for a master to serve).
Also, he was as much a capricious cat doing his own thing as WW was a loyally dumb dog. Probably still is.
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