Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...
1st of all S3ch84 Doom said he received the fang when his father sensed he was near his end, so not a child LOL! from the fb WW has been gone for over 18 months and never sensed his end lol!!! Also when and why would WW tell Doom those things about Yas his only dear friend that he choose to team up with?!?!
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Who cares what rumors the mutts heard about WW the FH wanted the 3 to lead the canines! And from what we see they are under his control currently l!
OK, i reread that chapter and indeed it looks like Doom got the fang just before WW departed to the outer tower. So what? About WW "sensing his end", maybe it's not literal but WW gave the fang to Doom so that he would have a better chance at surviving the escape or be immune to mind control, or for whatever other reason. It is not inconsistent at all.
Again, nowhere in the webtoon is it stated that it was WW who told Doom those things. Stop bringing it up. It was rumors. From we we've seen so far, only a few people in the family knew exactly what happened. Don't tell me you believe FH and Kirin gather other BHs on a weekly basis to tell all of them what their plans are/will going to be. When people don't really know what happened exactly a rumor is born. Add to it that other BHs were antagonistic towards dogs and we have an easy recipe for a slanderous rumor.
What Doom believes in is yet another aspect. He was relatively young at that point and idiolized his father (which is very common for sons to do when they have a happy family). It's a hundred times easier for him to look for a scapegoat to accuse of deceiving his father than to believe his father was at fault (which he wasn't really but it's not important for now).
I don't get your last paragraph, i mean i have no idea what it has to do with anything. Did you mean to say that since FH wanted them to lead the canines the other mutts wouldn't abuse them? Since when Traum gave a fuck about that? If anything he would enable the other mutts to pick on WW children to make them stronger. He only cared (haha) about them because he could control them unlike WW.
I wonder what will this flashback had to the story .
Yama for sure will get way stronger .
It introduce WW character .
But how will that story impact the dynamic between Yas and Yama .
Will they continue to fight ?
One thing that is funny , is that SIU want to make us feel pity for guy like WW and Yas when we know Yas didn't care about beast kin , same for Doom and Paul .
But again this whole thing with Yama and LPB family his weird .
- Yama was the bad guy according to Baam who wanted to save dengo dengo
- But surprise after that we learn Doom was the bad guy and Yama was the good guy all along
- But hey , you tought it would be that easy , Khell is the bad guy after all
- What do you mean Khell was supossed to be the bad guy ? No it was Yas directed by Zahard .
- Something so simple as Yas being the bad guy ? Nope WW was the dumb naive .
- But off course it was the FH being WW instinct .
I am just waiting for the guy who broke Rei heart , and see that in the Rei was himself a victim of Zahard who was also a victim of Phanta , who was also a victim of the author , who wa also victimed by someone else .
It is like seing naruto again , with those akatsuki > Pain > Obito > Madara > Kaguya
I literally hate that shit .
DO they author feel they story is more cool and complex like that ?
This is the time we living bro every body wanna be the victim so SIU is portraying that in the comic which is pathetic.. he’s literally everybody bad till you know their story..
You also failed to mention how much Yas is involved with WW. Like the first time he is in LPB territory he went to see WW. He worked hard to gain influence so he can be of help to WW (CH526), who is disliked in LPB family for being untameable. Yas spent much time with WW, even playing the wingman with NN. We've shown he was always emotional with WW, like getting angry that WW is still a willing slave for WW. Yasratcha is not indifferent towards WW, he cares enough about him to be always in his life.
But you know its obvious that final bosses are the workshop guys not zahard...
Because zahard and FH changed after the revolution
When they get to know their real self BS so the guardian was set up there to that purpose before the started climbing is like they was waiting for them..
So zahard saw something in the rice pot that tell him all he has to do to become king..
I possible that all he saw was something predetermined by the workshop to turned the story like this.. so he just following a false destiny..
But you know its obvious that final bosses are the workshop guys not zahard...
Because zahard and FH changed after the revolution
When they get to know their real self BS so the guardian was set up there to that purpose before the started climbing is like they was waiting for them..
So zahard saw something in the rice pot that tell him all he has to do to become king..
I possible that all he saw was something predetermined by the workshop to turned the story like this.. so he just following a false destiny..
You also failed to mention how much Yas is involved with WW. Like the first time he is in LPB territory he went to see WW. He worked hard to gain influence so he can be of help to WW (CH526), who is disliked in LPB family for being untameable. Yas spent much time with WW, even playing the wingman with NN. We've shown he was always emotional with WW, like getting angry that WW is still a willing slave for WW. Yasratcha is not indifferent towards WW, he cares enough about him to be always in his life.
Maybe. But his being of "help" to WW is based on his repudiation of WW's decision to be under a master. Not something I'd consider caring since he can neither influence how WW is treated by the LPB nor can he change WW's mind.
Like I said some chapters ago at the beginning of the flashback, Yas's behavior towards WW is more complex than was presented before the flash back and things might not be what they seem. I think at this moment we can establish that some form of antagonistic thoughts formed in Yas's mind towards WW at the end of the battle with Acrinak. Going forward it'll be clearer how he acted on those thoughts, but so far, he's clearly betrayed him.
Playing wingman in the relationship with NN is something I wouldn't consider in a positive light given that the seeds of NN's request to WW to betray Traum were planted by Yas. Why he did that will be much clearer as the FB is wrapped up, but so far the result has been disastrous for both WW and NN.
As regulars they were indeed companions but after Yas discovered WW was immune to and could counter anima/mind control abilities, I very much doubt the thoughts were the same from Yas.
Kirin referring to Yas as being silly and greedy might be an indication of what's to come in the next chapters.
OK, i reread that chapter and indeed it looks like Doom got the fang just before WW departed to the outer tower. So what? About WW "sensing his end", maybe it's not literal but WW gave the fang to Doom so that he would have a better chance at surviving the escape or be immune to mind control, or for whatever other reason. It is not inconsistent at all.
Again, nowhere in the webtoon is it stated that it was WW who told Doom those things. Stop bringing it up. It was rumors. From we we've seen so far, only a few people in the family knew exactly what happened. Don't tell me you believe FH and Kirin gather other BHs on a weekly basis to tell all of them what their plans are/will going to be. When people don't really know what happened exactly a rumor is born. Add to it that other BHs were antagonistic towards dogs and we have an easy recipe for a slanderous rumor.
What Doom believes in is yet another aspect. He was relatively young at that point and idiolized his father (which is very common for sons to do when they have a happy family). It's a hundred times easier for him to look for a scapegoat to accuse of deceiving his father than to believe his father was at fault (which he wasn't really but it's not important for now).
I don't get your last paragraph, i mean i have no idea what it has to do with anything. Did you mean to say that since FH wanted them to lead the canines the other mutts wouldn't abuse them? Since when Traum gave a fuck about that? If anything he would enable the other mutts to pick on WW children to make them stronger. He only cared (haha) about them because he could control them unlike WW.
My bad wrong FB, S3ch58 completely contradicts Yas’ fb! ‘Before their father passed away’ 18months is a bit of a stretch to call ‘before’! He told his kids to run away 18months before the fact? Paul wasn’t even born yet LOL!!! Doom say for a fact that his father told them not trust Yas!!! And how did Doom sneak back into training camp? According to Nen he was already inside LOL??? And where is Doom supposedly sneaking in from?, the outer area where his father is and he’ll need permission to use the warp LOL!!!
the fang is not acknowledged in this fb as a thing! Yas was making cat people before arriving to the mothership! Controlling people is the anima ability that both Yas and Doom learned to harness on the mothership! Yas doesn’t need the fang to overcome mind control so what’s the purpose of the fang???
That being said how does Doom even conjure the idea that Yas stole a fang from his father!
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S3ch58/S3ch84/Yas’ FB what a mess! I rest my case!
Notice how baby Yama is larger than the Yama in ch 58 lol, 84 also has a different Yama with shorter hair!!!
Maybe. But his being of "help" to WW is based on his repudiation of WW's decision to be under a master. Not something I'd consider caring since he can neither influence how WW is treated by the LPB nor can he change WW's mind.
Yeah, Yas's nature is to be free, WW's nature to be slave to a master and being happy about it is simply foreign, alien concept to Yas. He tried to make WW see his side, in his mind he probably thought he is saving WW. It's own way of caring, even though WW doesn't need it; he is pretty much happy about his condition. Happy until he met NN that is where he is a bit torn between loving her and obeying his master.
Funnily though, Yas trying to change WW's nature reminds me of his future subordinate Kendrick who tried to interfere with nature (bunnies being made as pets to help a village ends up baiting a dangerous predator). Yas gave the lesson that interfering with nature will lead to consequences, yet Yas felt satisfied he completely corrupted Kendrick (after this guy's speech of not using his legs).
My bad wrong FB, S3ch58 completely contradicts Yas’ fb! ‘Before their father passed away’ 18months is a bit of a stretch to call ‘before’! He told his kids to run away 18months before the fact? Paul wasn’t even born yet LOL!!! Doom say for a fact that his father told them not trust Yas!!! And how did Doom sneak back into training camp? According to Nen he was already inside LOL??? And where is Doom supposedly sneaking in from?, the outer area where his father is and he’ll need permission to use the warp LOL!!!
the fang is not acknowledged in this fb as a thing! Yas was making cat people before arriving to the mothership! Controlling people is the anima ability that both Yas and Doom learned to harness on the mothership! Yas doesn’t need the fang to overcome mind control so what’s the purpose of the fang???
That being said how does Doom even conjure the idea that Yas stole a fang from his father!
Since we haven't actually seen WW's death yet all of what you mentioned can still happen. WW might not die on the outskirts of the tower, he might be brought to the mothership for a formal execution. Doom might've talked to him and received the fang at that time. Doom might've already been out of the training camp or simply allowed to come and go or him being older than other children he was in other section of the camp or whatever. The fang is not acknowledged in this flashback YET.
That's why i said there isn't any inconsistency, at least yet. All can be explained still and wrapped up nicely. Why? Because it's not the end of the flashback!!
About Yas, making cat people doesn't mean controlling them. He said he was sharing his power. Nothing about controlling others. The purpose of fang? Power? Or maybe he just wanted to have something that belonged to his friend WW because he was so obssessed with him? I don't know. Why? Because it's not the end of the flashback!!
Doom knowing Yas stole WW's fang, maybe Yas told him about it? Maybe Doom having one of his own sensed the other one in Yas? I don't know. Why? Because it's not the end of the flashback!!
On a side note, it would be hilarious if we learn next week that today was indeed the end of the flashback haha
Since we haven't actually see WW's death yet all of what you mentioned can still happen. WW might not die on the outskirts of the tower, he might be brought to the mothership for a formal execution. Doom might've talked to him and received the fang at that time. Doom might've already been out of the training camp or simply allowed to come and go or him being older than other children he was in other section of the camp or whatever. The fang is not acknowledged in this flashback YET.
That's why i said there isn't any inconsistency, at least yet. All can be explained still and wrapped up nicely. Why? Because it's not the end of the flashback!!
About Yas, making cat people doesn't mean controlling them. He said he was sharing his power. Nothing about controlling others. The purpose of fang? Power? Or maybe he just wanted to have something that belonged to his friend WW because he was so obssessed with him? I don't know. Why? Because it's not the end of the flashback!!
Doom knowing Yas stole WW's fang, maybe Yas told him about it? Maybe Doom having one of his own sensed the other one in Yas? I don't know. Why? Because it's not the end of the flashback!!
On a side note, it would be hilarious if we learn next week that today was indeed the end of the flashback haha
Don’t need the fang to control beast lol! It’s exactly what taming is Robby explained this already! Yas of course learned it on the mothership! As well as Doom! WW doesn’t have the ability because he was never taught it on the mothership!
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If Paul and Yama were the same age as Doom before dropping out of school, they too would be able to tame!
Don’t need the fang to control beast lol! It’s exactly what taming is Robby explained this already! Yas of course learned it on the mothership! As well as Doom! WW doesn’t have the ability because he was never taught it on the mothership!
My point is this FB has created more questions than answers! WTF is the Fang and it’s importance! Everything we thought we knew about the fang was a lie lol!
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Not that I want SIU to dedicate 2 more fb chapters to it but remember the Fear Hax LMFAO???
Pretty sure that what this fb has established clearly is that Yas felt happiest when he was climbing the tower with WW and wanted to return to such a life. So he wanted to live freely away from Traumerei and with WW, but seeing WW die without even fighting back against his asshole master made him pretty bitter. I think Yas still wants to escape from Traumerei and secretly hopes Yama has inherited WW's ability (but not his dumb necessity for a master to serve).
Also, he was as much a capricious cat doing his own thing as WW was a loyally dumb dog. Probably still is.
This is the time we living bro every body wanna be the victim so SIU is portraying that in the comic which is pathetic.. he’s literally everybody bad till you know their story..
Maybe. But his being of "help" to WW is based on his repudiation of WW's decision to be under a master. Not something I'd consider caring since he can neither influence how WW is treated by the LPB nor can he change WW's mind.
Like I said some chapters ago at the beginning of the flashback, Yas's behavior towards WW is more complex than was presented before the flash back and things might not be what they seem. I think at this moment we can establish that some form of antagonistic thoughts formed in Yas's mind towards WW at the end of the battle with Acrinak. Going forward it'll be clearer how he acted on those thoughts, but so far, he's clearly betrayed him.
Playing wingman in the relationship with NN is something I wouldn't consider in a positive light given that the seeds of NN's request to WW to betray Traum were planted by Yas. Why he did that will be much clearer as the FB is wrapped up, but so far the result has been disastrous for both WW and NN.
As regulars they were indeed companions but after Yas discovered WW was immune to and could counter anima/mind control abilities, I very much doubt the thoughts were the same from Yas.
Kirin referring to Yas as being silly and greedy might be an indication of what's to come in the next chapters.
I see these comments casting Yas in a good light, talking about sacrifices and whatnot, so please can anyone outline what it cost Yas to "save" WW and how?
Looking at the positive side of the entire flashback, SIU remains true to how pathetic the Gray Wolf family was before Elaine! The BH was a coward and fell possessed to Akrinic, so did the 4 Kaiju! Not sure what this says about Owl but the only 2 acknowledged for keeping their senses were Yas and WW!
I think SIU want to make FUG morally grey rather then just pure evil. In fact, I like to imagine FUG was probably not as "evil" in their beginning as they are now, they probably got desperate as millennia pass by without ever securing a victory that matters, so FUG simply open the gates to anyone not accepted by the empire, even evil guys like White. By victory that matters, I mean killing a FH, because no matter how many FH descendants FUG kill, it changes nothing, the status quo will continue, more FH descendant will be born, also more non GF people flocks to the empire/FH. FUG appear to me to not have the luxury to be picky on who enters FUG.
I guess Yama’s FT is somehow tied to his ancient abilities! The 2x he successfully FTd and quickly was when EVK’s Orb was going, like Rak his abilities were amplified by it!!!
That Susano-like creature Yama was trying to create must be his ancient!
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Technically I guess Akrinic could alter Doom’s memories! Nen asked for Akrinic to watch over all the children so could it be a part of them all??? I think we’ll soon learn that the Fangs are Akrinic!
No way in hell 1 child could host an ancient alone! I doubt even 3 children could do it, Yas must of received some power
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Outside of Haratcha all of Yas’ DivCos abilities are similar to Akrinic’s, even Nanatano’s fireball!
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Lol the fear hax must of been Akrinic to keep the bros from fighting!!!
1. Yas wasn't at the LPB mothership out of some great affection for WW, he was practically captured after his crew was slaughtered. So this cannot be considered a cost.
2. After he developed enough trust to be allowed to roam around as he wished, he found WW's cage and tried convincing him again to escape, when WW refused, he gave up on changing his mind altogether and decided to escape on his own, only to be informed of the LPB anima abilities by the lion dude. Letting him know that such an escape plan was futile. That was also when he found out that WW was special and immune to anima abilities. Again no cost on his part, done nothing and spent nothing on WW.
3. During WW and NN's courting, he played wingman clearly with the intention of influencing WW through NN. The real reason for doing so will be more evident going forward, but it can't be considered a cost to him. What exactly did he give to WW by doing this?
Was ratting out NN a cost to him? Because that'll be a really interesting "cost".
In S3chapters 58 and 84 either Doom is lying or his memories were altered. Because it’s true he saw his parent before they passed and that parent gave him power and told him to runaway with his bros! It’s just that, that parent was Nen LOL not WW
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