Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter(by alpha scans)----
@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin
 

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WW is good to stay loyal
Nennen Bad for want him to treasoning his master
For no reason if you take a look they was living a happy life


that’s a big theory
They ar a pet of lo po bia family, and not accepted as a baranch family, they got look down, and his son supposed to be another servant of lo po bia tamer, such a good life
 

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Shiin translation, please pin Mods :)
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Ok, read the scan... This is a fairly brutal chapter on many fronts.

On the nen nen front, the result was fairly predictable. It makes sense that nen nen would get owned, even with acrinak. The bit that wasn't so obvious would be that nen nen was too weak to wield acrinak. It's a bit weird that we never learned why nen nen was chosen, even though she wasn't all that strong apparently. She was a beastkin but she never evidenced transformation of any kind.

Regarding nen nen's last wing... I wonder if we have seen evidence of this before. Of course, yama has that thing about people who fear him being unable to hurt him which screams of acrinak but i am unsure of how this applies to doom and paul, if at all.

And then yaratcha and wang wang... I like this story. Yaratcha did ultimately sell out nen nen... though not fully unintentionally. I doubt he expected nen nen to meet a family head but at the same time he didn't actually care what happened to nen nen. he just wanted wang wang to follow him around.

From the initial spoilers it felt a bit like wang wang was a POS but reading the chapter it feels a tad more sympathetic. Being unable to beat his instincts but at the same time clearly being enraged at the master who couldn't care less about him... And then in his final act saving as many canines and yaratcha as he can. not sure of when yaratcha gets the fang though. With wang wang and nen nen dead it seems pretty improbable that doom and hi brothers would be able to escape at all. i suppose this will only be possible via yaratcha.
Rei knows that Yas is a traitor now, so unless he's wedded to honoring the word to a dead man (WW), I don't see how Yas walks out of this in good standing
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There's no consensus on this, I've seen theories that he can't move directly, otherwise the admins would get involved, or that he's too arrogant to deal directly with Baam. There are even theories saying that he is recovering from injuries caused by Phantaminium.
Phant is one guy who could erase Zahad without raising a finger

I feel like the bigger answer is he doesn't want a weakened Enryu moving
 

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We still have to go from what happened to the mutt kids escaping... and Yas moving to Zahard's ownership. Seems odd as controlling as Rei is of his 'pets' that Yas would casually, and without fuss, migrate over to Zahard's forces. Even considering Rei is a Zahard lackey.

I suppose there's the possibility Rei discards Yas as a failure of sorts.
 

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Rei could dismiss Yas on the account he is being a cat. Rei treated Yasratcha and Wangwang differently, according to what Rei expected of their respective specie.
 

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Yaratcha did ultimately sell out nen nen... though not fully unintentionally. I doubt he expected nen nen to meet a family head but at the same time he didn't actually care what happened to nen nen. he just wanted wang wang to follow him around.
He didn't sell her out.

This was her plan all along. She was on board. No one expected the FH to move on it. Both thought she'd escape out the back door with the kids while Yas brought the other half of the dog army to WW on the outskirts, and presumably they'd all meet up.

NN and Yas thought she was qualified to solo the prison break, and most likely would have been short of Rei himself getting involved, which shocked even Yas. He even comments that he's surprised Rei got involved personally over such a seemingly trivial matter. Yas went out of his way to try to make it so he wouldn't be. He expressed shock at seeing Rei, and NN's corpse. Obviously, things weren't supposed to go that way.

He talks shit about not caring about the canines, and yet did everything he could to get them there to be with WW knowing they were valuable to the later.

Obviously, this couldn't work by involving the FH, who can just teleport in and blow the whole thing up.

This was a good plan that just went sideways. Maybe even a bad plan. But it was to give WW and his beau and kids and people all the freedom they didn't have. Something WW PROMISED to attempt for his kids. Even if WW had been on board it would have ended in failure due to Rei, but not before he at least tried to get them freedom.

He didn't even try.

Yas is a better father, lover, and provider than WW.
 

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Does Traam intervene and Kill/Seal WW himself with the teleport gate being there. Yas obsession has him at the nest or is it really going to be a straight forward kill with a parting wish. Yas just proved he be plotting lol. But also doesn’t make sense for the ancient to want to part ways with Baam because who is the ancient going to feel is more qualified than Baam. Is that all that’s in the suspendium?
 

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So i am gonna repeat , my point is that there is no reason for her to not have her own force if she was as strong as hr ranking indicate , she could still still decide to serve jahad while having her own family
Jahad Princess aren't allowed to have children neither they are allowed fall in love with men ...

How tf can she start her own family ?


(Tho i agree that adori is lesser than irregulars)
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Akrinak had a bad showing here because of the effects of the curse, and was already bested by Zahard/Rei. As it were, it already had to have a host to begin with (this is at least its 3rd if you count Yama, maybe many many more). This is not a natural state (much like EVK). So the ancients were all cursed and sealed to survive, limiting their powers greatly instead of free-roaming the tower. As such, they probably DO exhibit a threat of sorts to even the irregulars (maybe not a mortal one but still) IF they were fully-released. This is the 3rd ancient in Baam's camp and I'm sure a FULLY-RELEASED ancient will be key to taking down irregs in the future of the series. They just can't do that - until Baam undoes their curse. Firephant makes it clear to EVK it has to survive for an end goal - to 'zord up with the others is my suspicion.

I doubt that the descendants themselves can pose a threat to irregulars , acrinak says his host is still too weak that's why he can't release all of his power (the main reason he was absolutely anhilated) however we don't know for sure that even if his host was strong enough to release his true power then can he defeat that silver hairtail (or whatever that thing name is) ........even if he can win against it , traumerei wields 7 of them (maybe beast stronger that hairtail too) and plz don't say something like "who knows maybe acrinak was strong enough to defeat 7 of them " that silver hairtail didn't even remotely stuggle against acrinak let's assume acrinak was only allowed to go 1/4 of his power ( u may say that he was only able to use 1 per cent but that doesn't make sense because acrinak wouldn't choose someone who didn't even have enough potential to bring out most of his power and a non irregular can't become 100 times as strong as they were since they have limited potential unlike irregulars)
Actually judging by how fight goes i would say that silver hairtail also didn't need to use his full power against a not full power acrinak

And against 7 of them ,even full power acrinak wouldn't stand even a bit of chance ,

And traumerei could potentially use all 23 of the beast since he was the one who gave them to bh and if he feels like it , he can take them back at any time
 

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I'll work backwards - mostly to address your miscategorizations of my posts - but this is the most glaring anyways:



Most here get it - I'm hardly in the minority (not that an appeal to the majority is important, but it just goes to show). I sometimes wonder if some have a 'better' ability to be contrarian and argumentative than to read the actual story, but I'm sure you must think the same of me.

Anyways - Yas gave WW the ability to do EXACTLY what he promised to NN. You know, to be 'loyal' as I believe that is your choice of words.

WW could have worked to save his kids, be their father and in their life, AND the dogkin from being slaughtered/used/enslaved. Oh, as well as all the other animal-kin Yas could scurry up.

Maybe he (WW) was OK with being a yes-man/dog as a slave of types, but they never got an opinion poll unless I missed it. (Not NN, not Yas, not WW's kids, and none of the animal-kin - as if it weren't obvious enough)

Part of being 'loyal' is being a father - a present father (and um, PROTECTING them), and keeping your word to your spouse/baby momma. WW failed at both spectacularly.

Let's also not forget that he only laid with NN in the first place because he was ordered to sire a child. And she, being a prisoner, complied. Not that she had much choice. Just because she was a well-kept prisoner and WW was a stud she was attracted to doesn't mean she had full ability to consent. There were obvious power dynamics and coercion going on. So, WW... what a stud. In the real world, this would be a technical rape. But I digress...

Then, post-coitus, the LEAST he could do is make a promise to NN and actually follow up with it. Spoiler: he didn't even try. Such a stud!

THEN - because this chapter didn't happen in a vacuum and one must consider the previous events/chapters as well - Yas lets WW know that his kids will be unwilling tools for Rei. He even knew the ones sent to the outskirts would be taken out. WW's reaction was 'meh'

Even upon hearing that NN was on board, WW wasn't moved. Yas brought up that he had PROMISED her.

He didn't scheme AGAINST WW, he schemed FOR him - and he told him exactly how it would play out - and when - when the new child (Paul) is taken to the mothership, it will be time. He absolutely didn't do anything that should have been surprising, and worked hard to make it work for everyone involved - from WW down to the dogkin and the kids in between - NN included.

Yas asks NN if she is SURE - she says yes and to proceed. To protect her children. She counted on and relied on WW to keep his word. She's JUST as integral as Yas in all this.

Yas then 'told on WW' which was of course fake, as his goal was to create a scenario that doesn't illicit a response from the FH (that backfired, but at least the intent counts) that also gets all the dogkin together (to be able to escape).

WW *STILL* doesn't leave even though Yas and NN's plan was telegraphed well in advance. He acts surprised, which also makes him stupid on top of everything.

Rei arrives with his dead-ass girl, and all WW can talk about is how loyal he is lol.

Only, just seconds ago Yas pointedly said: "You would rather betray your own lover // to keep your allegiance towards that damned master of yours?!!" - emphasis added. The one that can't stop talking about himself and what he wants - screw those in his circle - is none other than WW. The one that betrayed those close to him, WW. Hardly 'loyal' - and I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'magnanimous' in regards to WW. He didn't even have to die for them had he actually worked with his best friend and wife. AKA, stupid.

WW's last-minute (AFTER he had already been burned) jump on a grenade is a little bit too-little-too-late.



TLDR, the rape-on-command chad that is WW is unreliable, betrayed his wifey and her trust in him (and his promise to her to protec their fucking kids for crying out loud), his people, and his kids to being used as slaves and/or killed on a whim. It is actually WW that is the selfish person in all this, not so much Yas, who actually worked to help WW *and his people/kids/girl* - it was WW that could only talk about what HE wanted, who didn't consider the life others would have based on his actions/inaction.

You have it exactly backwards.
Interesting.

WW promised to break his loyalty to Traum after the child is born. He didn't. Quite evident in his agreement to leave his wife and kids and go to the outer tower to grow the dogkin and sire a different child with another female. That's loyalty. Not disloyalty. Very interesting I think that the same narration can evoke opposite views.

He broke his promise to NN, in his last conversation with Yas, it's quite evident he wasn't part of the plotting and had been more a like a tacit participant with his silence. Whatever expectations you have of what he could and should do for his kids is fair. However it's yours as the critique not his interpretation of his duties. Would it be unfair for him to decide to keep both his family and duty to his master? I don't think his decision is in anyway shameful. I wouldn't do the same if I were in his shoes, but I wouldn't willingly serve a master because that's not who I am innately. WW is innately a being who wishes to serve a master. All his decisions and actions up to his death is consistent with that. It's loyalty and it deserves respect. Whether you agree with him or not.
 

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He didn't sell her out.

This was her plan all along. She was on board. No one expected the FH to move on it. Both thought she'd escape out the back door with the kids while Yas brought the other half of the dog army to WW on the outskirts, and presumably they'd all meet up.

NN and Yas thought she was qualified to solo the prison break, and most likely would have been short of Rei himself getting involved, which shocked even Yas. He even comments that he's surprised Rei got involved personally over such a seemingly trivial matter. Yas went out of his way to try to make it so he wouldn't be. He expressed shock at seeing Rei, and NN's corpse. Obviously, things weren't supposed to go that way.

He talks shit about not caring about the canines, and yet did everything he could to get them there to be with WW knowing they were valuable to the later.

Obviously, this couldn't work by involving the FH, who can just teleport in and blow the whole thing up.

This was a good plan that just went sideways. Maybe even a bad plan. But it was to give WW and his beau and kids and people all the freedom they didn't have. Something WW PROMISED to attempt for his kids. Even if WW had been on board it would have ended in failure due to Rei, but not before he at least tried to get them freedom.

He didn't even try.

Yas is a better father, lover, and provider than WW.
You keep going on with this praise of Yas over this plot. He literally exposed he and NN's plot with Kirin. In the presence of Traum. And stated that he wanted WW's head as the compensation. In earlier chapters he talks about his envy and how he wanted to destroy what WW had.

Your interpretation certainly amazes. How does any of this translate to a virtuous concern over NN and the dogkin? Since when did Yas ever become caring?
 

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Interesting.

WW promised to break his loyalty to Traum after the child is born. He didn't. Quite evident in his agreement to leave his wife and kids and go to the outer tower to grow the dogkin and sire a different child with another female. That's loyalty. Not disloyalty. Very interesting I think that the same narration can evoke opposite views.

He broke his promise to NN, in his last conversation with Yas, it's quite evident he wasn't part of the plotting and had been more a like a tacit participant with his silence. Whatever expectations you have of what he could and should do for his kids is fair. However it's yours as the critique not his interpretation of his duties. Would it be unfair for him to decide to keep both his family and duty to his master? I don't think his decision is in anyway shameful. I wouldn't do the same if I were in his shoes, but I wouldn't willingly serve a master because that's not who I am innately. WW is innately a being who wishes to serve a master. All his decisions and actions up to his death is consistent with that. It's loyalty and it deserves respect. Whether you agree with him or not.
Fuxk that

his best friend, wife and kids are putting their life on the line for him and he can’t be bothered to raise a finger
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You keep going on with this praise of Yas over this plot. He literally exposed he and NN's plot with Kirin. In the presence of Traum. And stated that he wanted WW's head as the compensation. In earlier chapters he talks about his envy and how he wanted to destroy what WW had.

Your interpretation certainly amazes. How does any of this translate to a virtuous concern over NN and the dogkin? Since when did Yas ever become caring?
Yeah, he thought Kirin or someone would go, not Rei
 

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You keep going on with this praise of Yas over this plot. He literally exposed he and NN's plot with Kirin. In the presence of Traum. And stated that he wanted WW's head as the compensation. In earlier chapters he talks about his envy and how he wanted to destroy what WW had.

Your interpretation certainly amazes. How does any of this translate to a virtuous concern over NN and the dogkin? Since when did Yas ever become caring?
To be fair its WW fault, if he's not such a bitch loyalty dog he could already gone free with nen nen and his kids from long time ago
 

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Damn, I was wondering what kind of animal it was, but being a shark makes a lot of sense because of how early the nest is.
"How early the Nest is"? I don't understand the connection here.


Yeah Hwyarun also compared Baam to a Great White Shark early in the fight...So maybe the creature is a Great white Shark and it's a foreshadowing.Also Enne has the Sobriquet of Great White Shark.Maybe Great White Shark is a pretty strong Shinhueh.
The Killer Whale and Great White Shark are the mightiest Shinheuh.



don't compare Itachi to Yas, Itachi has sacrificed everything for the common good, Yas has sacrificed almost nothing to save a guy who explicitly doesn't want to be saved and has the luxury of failing. if crossed, Itachi would spit in Yas' face
Yasratcha sacrificed a lot to try and save Wang.



I can't but help be reminded that Yas' full transformation is so un-cat-like and partially looks like Acrinak to the point thinking that maybe Yas took a portion of that power himself.

And I still wonder how the fangs play into all this.

Yama didn't have access to the fangs AND didn't have access to the ancient. Seems a lot of coincidental nerfing IMO. But I suppose they could likewise just be unrelated and concurrent, just not correlated.
Seeing WW's full transformation makes Yas's transformation even more confusing, I wouldn't be surprised if it was another ancient (not acrinak) or even a part of that power as you said.


To be fair we have the 'fire head' (floating above) but still not very Acrinak'y. No hints here?



This is more Acrinak'y IMO.



OFC the 'fire head' is absolutely meaningless if it's just a design aesthetic that SIU likes...
  • We saw Acrinak enter Yama.
  • Yasratcha was far away from the scene of the battle.
    • It is impossible for Yasratcha to have absorbed Acrinak's power.
  • SIU said that Yasratcha's FULL Transformation was an aesthetic choice.
    • He wanted to convey an existence that had surpassed the limits of evolution.
    • That's why FT Yasratcha has a shinsu body without that much of a concrete form.
  • Prime White's final form also has him become an entity of pure shinsu, discarding his physical form.


You're barking up the wrong tree here.
 

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He straight up told Kirin to send forces to get NN and that he would go get WW.

he didn’t know Rei already planned to kill the dogs and Had told Kirin as much
Out played
 

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I didn't read the same chapter.

WW shot himself and the dogkin and his kids in the foot, and just last minute tried to make things right.

Yas gave him ample opportunity, advanced notice, and plenty of reminders to make right his promise to NN.

Yas moved to save WW' ass AND everyone he cared about. How is that a betrayal again?



Kind of makes you wonder about that 3-way fight with Khel and EVK and Yama. Just a bunch of ancients, doing ancient things....



Welcome.



I don't even recognize him anymore.
yas told on the escape plan when there was literally no reason to do so he was the reason why anyone in lpb knew about it in the first place and the reason why the family head was there to begin with even if that isn't what he wanted to happen.

by the way i agree that wangwang is even worse but it doesnt change the fact that yas betrayed him.
 

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I see these comments casting Yas in a good light, talking about sacrifices and whatnot, so please can anyone outline what it cost Yas to "save" WW and how?
 

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Fuxk that

his best friend, wife and kids are putting their life on the line for him and he can’t be bothered to raise a finger
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Yeah, he thought Kirin or someone would go, not Rei
Did you read the story ?

Why did WW became friend with Yas in the first place ? Because he didn't have a master .

Why did he go fuck NN ? Because his master ordered him .

If Rei asked to not do any of those thing he wouldn't .
I see these comments casting Yas in a good light, talking about sacrifices and whatnot, so please can anyone outline what it cost Yas to "save" WW and how?
His liberty .
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In the end Yas was selfish , because he knew WW didn't only wanted a master .

So either he was selfish and wanted WW for himself or he didn't understand WW nature .

I am anticipating WW response to Yas story .
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In the end everyone is acting true to they nature .

Yama is the mad dog , who can even bite his master hand .

So it is fiting for him to be a Slayers .

He is also acting true to his instinct .
 
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