Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter(by alpha scans)----
@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin
 

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I guess Yama’s FT is somehow tied to his ancient abilities! The 2x he successfully FTd and quickly was when EVK’s Orb was going, like Rak his abilities were amplified by it!!!
That Susano-like creature Yama was trying to create must be his ancient!

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Technically I guess Akrinic could alter Doom’s memories! Nen asked for Akrinic to watch over all the children so could it be a part of them all??? I think we’ll soon learn that the Fangs are Akrinic!
No way in hell 1 child could host an ancient alone! I doubt even 3 children could do it, Yas must of received some power
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Outside of Haratcha all of Yas’ DivCos abilities are similar to Akrinic’s, even Nanatano’s fireball!
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Lol the fear hax must of been Akrinic to keep the bros from fighting!!!
Cerberus? Make it happen SIU. The Three brothers merging

Thought White already took that niche
 

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Can’t way to see cha joining his god luslec
 

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EVK has the FB with her ancient on why she was selected and her worthiness… but Akrinic surrenders, then bitches that the host is too weak??? Akrinic never bothered to listen to Nen but accepts her request to watch over her children LOL! I thought the Ancients have a purpose and that purpose is not to babysit!
Here you are assuming that Acrinak and the elemental fragments of native one are the same group, and everything seems to be the other way around.
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Earlier it was stated that the FH searched the tower for a special woman to breed Yama. Absolutely nothing special about Nen and her ancient is an idiot! Owl hyped up how strong the ancient was but he was severely incorrect!
We don't know the Nen Nen's lineage and we still don't know why Traumerai and Zahard went after Acrinak.
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Doom’s recollection of events and Yas’ fb is a shit show lol! Doom said he received his fang before his father died, according to Yas’ fb WW had left them for 18months before he died lol! Doom says Yama’s mother suddenly disappeared, nope they were just at training school lol! Doom, Yama, and Paul are supposed to be the new canine leaders so why were they frighteningly fleeing with all the dogs violently barking at them? And how did they know to escape at the moment and how did Yas make it all the way to them, according to the fb you need permission to use the warp gate unless you’re the FH!
Wow, Sly, sometimes you make a fool of yourself, really. The flashback isn't over yet and we haven't seen anything about the runaway, which should take place in the next chapter.

Doom was still a child, of course he doesn't know the events in their entirety, Nen Nen disappeared from his perspective, not least because he was in false imprisonment.
 

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WW sacrifices his wife(ish) and kids on the altar of convenience and comfort to a despotic, genocidal ruler who will certainly harm his offspring.

But he's a noble chap.

Lolol
And of course, Wang pleads with Traumerei asking him if he did not once stop to think of how his dog would feel when he killed his lover. If he would also kill Wang's children:



And without any hesitation Traumerei replies that he would. That there would be no difference if he knows the emotions of a trifle that holds less value than dust. That does Wang really expect love and mercy from him? Towards a mere dog?




@The Crypts: do you really think that subservience and devotion towards such a master is an admirable trait? A master that considers your life to hold less value than dust. A master that would kill everyone you love and care for without batting an eye. A master that would spit on the very loyalty you show.

Loyalty towards such a master is something to be abhorred not praised. I will say it again, Wang is a disgrace to his station, his race and the entire concept of human dignity.

The Jews - Hitler comparison is very apt IMO.
 
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I'm really trying to understand this whole debate about WW, Yas and NN, seriously, the discussions have reached a level of absurdity of lack of coherence.

Do you really think WW should just say thank you and eat all the shit Traumerai gave? All it took was for someone to say that he already assumed that WW betrayed him, which never happened, why? because WW sucks.

Yasratcha is extremely selfish and acted for his own reasons, but so what? Who is not like that? I think either the discord, the shin or the alpha translation makes it very clear that Yas acted on behalf of WW, NN and children. Wasn't it obvious that he did it to instigate WW? For god sake. Yes, Yas is not a hero here, no one in the tower is, but to say that he is to blame for this whole situation while defending the WW "lifestyle" is being twisted as fuck, to say the least.

Worst of all here is the lines about Nen Nen, guys, she is a mother and is aware that her children would live the same way as WW and she didn't want that. To think she was stupid is dishonest to say the least.

It's more than clear that neither of them imagined Traumerai would move in person, it was something totally unexpected for them. Did anyone think he would come to the nest before the hiatus? Of course not, because the FH have a history of not interfering in anything.
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It does seem odd, doesn't it? She did say it picked her after all. When the previous host was a Slayer.

Maybe the options were limited at the time, and it had to go with what was available - NN.
Maybe it's simply because a host needs to be of a certain lineage, regardless of strength. It's no wonder that although NN said "children", Acrinak specifically chose Yama, her biological son.
 

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I will say it again, Traumerei is a disgrace to his station, his race and the entire concept of human dignity.
Feels like he's pretty par for the course as (real) Irregulars go, from what we've mostly seen from them. Urek seems to be the exception to the rule.
 

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Feels like he's pretty par for the course as (real) Irregulars go, from what we've mostly seen from them. Urek seems to be the exception to the rule.
Mistake. I meant Wang.

Traumerei excels at what he's supposed to be (a god, but also a piece of shit).
 

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I wonder what will this flashback had to the story .

Yama for sure will get way stronger .

It introduce WW character .

But how will that story impact the dynamic between Yas and Yama .

Will they continue to fight ?

One thing that is funny , is that SIU want to make us feel pity for guy like WW and Yas when we know Yas didn't care about beast kin , same for Doom and Paul .

But again this whole thing with Yama and LPB family his weird .

- Yama was the bad guy according to Baam who wanted to save dengo dengo

- But surprise after that we learn Doom was the bad guy and Yama was the good guy all along

- But hey , you tought it would be that easy , Khell is the bad guy after all

- What do you mean Khell was supossed to be the bad guy ? No it was Yas directed by Zahard .

- Something so simple as Yas being the bad guy ? Nope WW was the dumb naive .

- But off course it was the FH being WW instinct .

I am just waiting for the guy who broke Rei heart , and see that in the Rei was himself a victim of Zahard who was also a victim of Phanta , who was also a victim of the author , who wa also victimed by someone else .

It is like seing naruto again , with those akatsuki > Pain > Obito > Madara > Kaguya

I literally hate that shit .

DO they author feel they story is more cool and complex like that ?
I don't see it that way, I just see that everyone has a point of view and that things are not about good and bad.

I don't agree with many of SIU's choices in recent times, but I don't see these as bad, we just judge the characters without knowing everything.

The case of Doom, Yama and Paul was more of a fight between brothers, the difference is that it involved lives. Since the appearance of Yas we had doubts and several indications that he was not the absolute evil that many thought.

Anyway, one of the positive points for me in ToG is that there are simply no totally good or bad characters, only points of view, environment in which they grew up and their own perspectives.
 

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Welp, my point was that there was no reason for yaratcha to mention NN's plan to storm the facility where her kids were being kept. other than screwing her over for the lolz apparently.
To better sell the story of Wang's betrayal. Wang betraying Traumerei without Neneya makes no sense. No one would have ever bought such a plot.

Yasratcha's goal was to convince them to not send the Branch Leaders, but instead him to kill Wang alongside the Canines.



His options were to kill it (possibly impossible), tame it (he didn't... could he??), or defeat then seal it (also didn't happen).

This oversight is another failure of Rei's
Or Traumerei thought Acrinak was dead. It's not like he necessarily knows that it's immortal. Neneya did tell Acrinak to pretend to be dead.

Pudidy was also surprised to see that Acrinak was still alive. So they already tried to kill it once before.
 

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Here you are assuming that Acrinak and the elemental fragments of native one are the same group, and everything seems to be the other way around.
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We don't know the Nen Nen's lineage and we still don't know why Traumerai and Zahard went after Acrinak.
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Wow, Sly, sometimes you make a fool of yourself, really. The flashback isn't over yet and we haven't seen anything about the runaway, which should take place in the next chapter.

Doom was still a child, of course he doesn't know the events in their entirety, Nen Nen disappeared from his perspective, not least because he was in false imprisonment.
Lol WW is about to die at the out area! The last he saw Doom was over 18months ago. FACTS. The fang has not been acknowledged and WW has had no reason to speak ill of Yas! Doom is not a child he’s a teen at this point, stop with he’s a child excuse. So either SIU messed up or Doom is lying!
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And who gives a damn about Nen’s lineage? Does she even have a lineage since she’s an experiment, her blood is sullied! So throw that lineage BS out the window, she’s not even pure!
 

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No, Urek implies that he can't use Shinwonryu.

When he sees Baam use the skill, he says: "isn't that what the 10 Family Leaders use"?
Correct, as I seem to recall the 10GW gained the ability after undergoing revolution with the "God Of Guardians" in the Hell Train. I'm weak on dtails so somebody can help fill it in.
 

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Or Traumerei thought Acrinak was dead. It's not like he necessarily knows that it's immortal. Neneya did tell Acrinak to pretend to be dead.

Pudidy was also surprised to see that Acrinak was still alive. So they already tried to kill it once before.
That's my point though.

Rei had 3 options approaching it. He couldn't even tell it didn't actually die, or that the essence left NN. That's a failure of sorts, and will of course bite him in the ass.

If he HAD, he would have sealed Yama, killed Yama, or mind-controlled the Acrinak IN Yama. Clearly, none of those things were done so I take it as an L for Rei right now, unless there's some wild shit we don't know in the next FB.
 

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Gotta say, zahard toying with fate to ensure the canines and felines meet at the wall of peaceful coexistence is quite a sick move on zahard's part.
 

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@The Crypts: do you really think that subservience and devotion towards such a master is an admirable trait? A master that considers your life to hold less value than dust. A master that would kill everyone you love and care for without batting an eye. A master that would spit on the very loyalty you show.

Loyalty towards such a master is something to be abhorred not praised. I will say it again, Wang is a disgrace to his station, his race and the entire concept of human dignity.

The Jews - Hitler comparison is very apt IMO.
Precisely. He's being purposefully dense on the matter because he simply can't let go the thought that his take was wrong.
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Gotta say, zahard toying with fate to ensure the canines and felines meet at the wall of peaceful coexistence is quite a sick move on zahard's part.
I thought Yas said that MIGHT be why he was sent to the Wall - to meet the dogs.

I mean, he (Zahard) certainly could have.
 

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Lol WW is about to die at the out area! The last he saw Doom was over 18months ago. FACTS. The fang has not been acknowledged and WW has had no reason to speak ill of Yas! Doom is not a child he’s a teen at this point, stop with he’s a child excuse. So either SIU messed up or Doom is lying
You're acting like the flashback is over. lmao

Doom is a kid, I don't know where you got that teenager thing from. And even then, he only knows what has become public, not everything that has happened.

Wait for FB to finish before complaining pointlessly.
 

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And who gives a damn about Nen’s lineage? Does she even have a lineage since she’s an experiment, her blood is sullied! So throw that lineage BS out the window, she’s not even pure!
Dude, you're the one questioning her lineage here.

I don't know how schools work in other countries, but you studied genetics right? Regardless of your idiotic speech about bloodline purity, NN being an experiment (which I don't know where you got it from, because at no point is it said to be a beastkin like Yas and WW) your gene would still be passed on to your child.

They say that we are the group of complainers, but you are to be congratulated today Sly.
 

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I thought Yas said that MIGHT be why he was sent to the Wall - to meet the dogs.

I mean, he (Zahard) certainly could have.
Yes, definitely. But now having actual context regarding the relationship between dogs and felines this makes way more sense. The relationship is by no means just generic enmity or friendship. It also leaves the question of how much zahard knows about them in general. If he knows about yaratcha's and wang wang's past then necessarily expecting yaratcha to merely crush them seems like a stretch. Since yaratcha's whims have pretty much been both friendly and lethal to canines. I can't help but wonder if zahard's play here is beefing up yama... for the sake of making the incoming war bloodier maybe? I can imagine zahard being unable to anticipate bam when it comes to destiny and whatnot but canine wise bam has been largely absent from the plot. So things are probably going according to zahard's will, at least until bam shows up.
 

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Gotta say, zahard toying with fate to ensure the canines and felines meet at the wall of peaceful coexistence is quite a sick move on zahard's part.
I don't think Zahard knows Yasratcha's true intentions.

Granted, it was the Baam presence that helped prevent Yama from being captured at the wall, but it was the existence of Yasratcha himself that brought the Baylord brothers together again.

In the end, I think SIU wants to show that Zahard's influence on fate has many flaws.
 

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I'm really trying to understand this whole debate about WW, Yas and NN, seriously, the discussions have reached a level of absurdity of lack of coherence.

Do you really think WW should just say thank you and eat all the shit Traumerai gave? All it took was for someone to say that he already assumed that WW betrayed him, which never happened, why? because WW sucks.

Yasratcha is extremely selfish and acted for his own reasons, but so what? Who is not like that? I think either the discord, the shin or the alpha translation makes it very clear that Yas acted on behalf of WW, NN and children. Wasn't it obvious that he did it to instigate WW? For god sake. Yes, Yas is not a hero here, no one in the tower is, but to say that he is to blame for this whole situation while defending the WW "lifestyle" is being twisted as fuck, to say the least.

Worst of all here is the lines about Nen Nen, guys, she is a mother and is aware that her children would live the same way as WW and she didn't want that. To think she was stupid is dishonest to say the least.

It's more than clear that neither of them imagined Traumerai would move in person, it was something totally unexpected for them. Did anyone think he would come to the nest before the hiatus? Of course not, because the FH have a history of not interfering in anything.
Hey, it's almost as if this shit is pretty easy to understand!

OFC Yas is a selfish cat - that's his nature so he's exceedingly selfish.

That doesn't mean he can't be simultaneously selfish AND the benefactor of the dogkin/pups/WW at the same time. It's not an either-or proposition. 'Oh, so Yas is selfish - he can't be aiding the dogs...' - that's a nonsense argument, and completely disregards Yas' actions as well.

I also don't get the NN hate. You don't have to appreciate Yas, but NN is the victim from every angle: forced to host the Acrinak, forced to sit idly by as the Acrinak rages, forced into captivity, forced to breed, then when she tries to be a good mother and rely on her POS baby-daddy, she can't even get him to get on the same page and live up to his promises. A theme here is NN has zero bodily-autonomy at all. Shame. Rape-y really.

WW is the type to not even pay child support.

Maybe it's simply because a host needs to be of a certain lineage, regardless of strength. It's no wonder that although NN said "children", Acrinak specifically chose Yama, her biological son.
Ah, good point. Like Kushina/Naruto's lineage is best suited to be a jinchuriki or however it worked. I guess I immediately thought it had to get to a host ASAP, and Yama was the closest, but they were all in that training tower after all.

That said, she did say children - plural. Did we just see a singular example of a child getting some of the power of the Acrinak with Yama? The other two also getting the same treatment off-screen? Just spit-balling here. It's not like the Acrinak could move to save the 3 pups if it was only in Yama and Paul or Doom was at risk of being killed on another floor...
 
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