Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower Of God Chapter 529 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Zahard wanted a loser to be frozen in carbonite for all eternity to send a message, just face it. A nobody. A weakling.

Because that's how things work.

 

[Ignorant]

I mean, cha is obviously absurdly powerful even by CC standards. its impossible to place him anywhere specific power wise but the fact remains that every single time cha has made a move characters around him have gone WTF. Just the fact that he was a fisherman in a team where dowon was a member should be pretty telling...

The fact that the Captain himself recruited him personally mean that he’s going to be used in this war is just not his time, i think probably Yorari is the victim
They have history and he’s following baam what you think?

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I think Jubei and sazon need to see WW from the view of a FH! He’s just a mere dog don't waste your time!

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We have yama a badass who need WW?

 

[Turtle hunter]

You can kick as much as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that WW is a mediocre character, he was created for that.

Just as Rachel and Wangnan are despicable and annoying, this is the goal of SIU, to show that the side effect of creating the beastkin is precisely this stereotyped instinct taken to the extreme. Also because a real dog will not be loyal while being mistreated or cats are not insensitive monsters either. SIU just exaggerated the concepts for her narrative.

You may like WW, but it doesn't make any sense to defend his actions and put him as the hero of this flashback or worse, the victim, because the victim here is NN and the kids.

I love Yasratcha, but that doesn't make him any less of a son of a bitch than he is. lmao

I disagree just the fact that he trigerred so many of you guys make him a decent or at least interesting character .

Same for Rachel and Wangnan , they may not be the best but they are good character and i think we don't usually see character like Rachel .

Seing a power less Baam in Wangnan who doesn't have plot armor was also interesting .

Is SIu a girl or a men ?

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The fact that the Captain himself recruited him personally mean that he’s going to be used in this war is just not his time, i think probably Yorari is the victim
They have history and he’s following baam what you think?

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I think Jubei and sazon need to see WW from the view of a FH! He’s just a mere dog don't waste your time!

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We have yama a badass who need WW?

Yep a mere dog .

 

[sazon]

Cha being weak is just madness that only Sly defends. He always takes a character to crucify for no reason, until a few weeks ago it was Lyborick.

Cha, Dowon and HG faced the first DDs of the 10 big families, in addition to having been trained by someone high level from FUG (high chances of being Luslec). By god, the guys were symbols to seal the peace, finding them weak is insanity.

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I think Jubei and sazon need to see WW from the view of a FH! He’s just a mere dog don't waste your time

I didn't understand your point, what would that change?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

You can kick as much as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that WW is a mediocre character, he was created for that.

Just as Rachel and Wangnan are despicable and annoying, this is the goal of SIU, to show that the side effect of creating the beastkin is precisely this stereotyped instinct taken to the extreme. Also because a real dog will not be loyal while being mistreated or cats are not insensitive monsters either. SIU just exaggerated the concepts for her narrative.

You may like WW, but it doesn't make any sense to defend his actions and put him as the hero of this flashback or worse, the victim, because the victim here is NN and the kids.

I love Yasratcha, but that doesn't make him any less of a son of a bitch than he is. lmao

You just don't get it, bro. /s

- no one faulted Nazi police dogs for being loyal
- but they did fault Himmler

Pick one, you can't have both:

- WW is *just* a dog, and is just following his programming. Roomba's aren't commendable for following their programming. Neither are meat puppets as robots. WW doesn't get a pat on his back as going above and beyond, because he's just doing what dogs do.

or

- WW has human emotions. He's well aware of concepts of decorum, fear, loyalty, betrayal, desire, concern, spite, manipulation, and so on. All higher-tier thoughts that mere dogs don't have, nor comprehend. WW is aware of his actions relevant to others. This awareness of others dogs don't have, and baby humans have to develop. As a higher being, his good actions are commendable and his bad actions are reprehensible.

Now, WW obviously has elements of both, but you can't argue he's not aware of the higher concepts in the later part.

You can't say he's commendable for just being a dog (whoopee) in the human sense because humans know better than to, say, be loyal to a gangster and know to take care of their family as a higher priority than where their next meal is coming from and so on.

An ACTUAL admirable trait would have been to forcibly override his instincts to selflessly act for others instead of himself - as he did until the final moment when he FINALLY acted for others (too little too late - the chance to save himself had already passed anyways). That's what makes a hero, someone that puts themselves and their selfish desires of want and respect and self-protection SECONDARY to others.

But all of this shouldn't need saying, because this shit is common sense.

 

[sazon]

I disagree just the fact that he trigerred so many of you guys make him a decent or at least interesting character .

Same for Rachel and Wangnan , they may not be the best but they are good character and i think we don't usually see character like Rachel .

Seing a power less Baam in Wangnan who doesn't have plot armor was also interesting

I don't think WW is an interesting character, I'm just talking about him because this distorted hero or victim image doesn't make any sense.

Understand, I'm not belittling Rachal and Wangnan as characters, because they were created for that, SIU's goal has always been that and it was done with mastery.

Now, if you can find something good and like them for it, go for it, there's no point in judging it, but I really can't stand them both. The same applies to WW.

In short, I understand what the characters were created for and I respect that, but in no way will I sympathize with them for it, let alone distort their role in the story as some here have done.

 

[Ignorant]

Cha being weak is just madness that only Sly defends. He always takes a character to crucify for no reason, until a few weeks ago it was Lyborick.

Cha, Dowon and HG faced the first DDs of the 10 big families, in addition to having been trained by someone high level from FUG (high chances of being Luslec). By god, the guys were symbols to seal the peace, finding them weak is insanity.

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I didn't understand your point, what would that change?

My point is stop wasting your time with long writing about WW he’s dead he belong there cause he was a mere dog look what we have now..

This the face of the future of the beastkin
They make that face when they hear
About 3 BH, one princesses of zahard, 3 coprs commander and a lot troops
Lets talk about them not WW he’s a walking L

 

[sazon]

My point is stop wasting your time with long writing about WW he’s dead he belong there cause he was a mere dog look what we have now..

This the face of the future of the beastkin
They make that face when they hear
About 3 BH, one princesses of zahard, 3 coprs commander and a lot troops
Lets talk about them not WW he’s a walking L

Bearing in mind that cinera made me just want Maschenny to be slaughtered by anyone and that Lyborick and Kallavan are extremely boring characters, that's just Yasratcha left. lmao

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

My point is stop wasting your time with long writing about WW he’s dead he belong there cause he was a mere dog look what we have now..

This the face of the future of the beastkin
They make that face when they hear
About 3 BH, one princesses of zahard, 3 coprs commander and a lot troops
Lets talk about them not WW he’s a walking L

To be fair, this IS the chapter discussion after all.

 

[kkck]

You can kick as much as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that WW is a mediocre character, he was created for that.

Just as Rachel and Wangnan are despicable and annoying, this is the goal of SIU, to show that the side effect of creating the beastkin is precisely this stereotyped instinct taken to the extreme. Also because a real dog will not be loyal while being mistreated or cats are not insensitive monsters either. SIU just exaggerated the concepts for her narrative.

You may like WW, but it doesn't make any sense to defend his actions and put him as the hero of this flashback or worse, the victim, because the victim here is NN and the kids.

I love Yasratcha, but that doesn't make him any less of a son of a bitch than he is. lmao

I think this is about accurate. Wang wang or yaratcha are ultimately not heroes nor purely evil per say (though yaratcha is a dick). Wang wang said it best, both are driven by their instincts to their very end. Add to that, WW was ultimately helpless through this whole ordeal. Just think of how this looks from ww's perspective.

Yaratcha: Nyan o/
WW: woof o/
Yaratcha: BTW, I might have told the family that you and NN are going to betray them and run of into wherever the fuck.
WW: BUT WHY!?
Yaratcha: Welp, mostly because it's true unless you want to die alongside your wife and kids by your master's hand.
WW: My master would never do that!
Traumerei: Sup! (waves the nen nen kabob)
Yaratcha: Nyan o/
WW: BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BUT WHY THOUGH?
Traumerei: Because I can't even wave a trifle kabob without you betraying me.
Yaratcha: See?
WW: But if you didn't kabob my wife I wouldn't have barked at you!
Traumerei: *Waves the kabob* not good enough.
WW: The past 45 seconds have been so damn intense! I would know, I have an intensity measuring license.

All wang wang did here was pretty much stand around. And assholes just blindsided him with random stuff. There is no scenario where ww could have done more or NN's plan worked.

 

[Turtle hunter]

I don't think WW is an interesting character, I'm just talking about him because this distorted hero or victim image doesn't make any sense.

Understand, I'm not belittling Rachal and Wangnan as characters, because they were created for that, SIU's goal has always been that and it was done with mastery.

Now, if you can find something good and like them for it, go for it, there's no point in judging it, but I really can't stand them both. The same applies to WW.

In short, I understand what the characters were created for and I respect that, but in no way will I sympathize with them for it, let alone distort their role in the story as some here have done.

There is a difference between being a good character and you liking them .

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Bearing in mind that cinera made me just want Maschenny to be slaughtered by anyone and that Lyborick and Kallavan are extremely boring characters, that's just Yasratcha left. lmao

I agree , i wished so much harm to Maschenny because of @Cinera but i think Kallavan and Maschenny are interesting character .

i couldn't see the utility od Down and Kallavan but in the end , i see what they had to the story .

I also see Baam naivity thanks to them .

 

[Ignorant]

I can imagine Yama when traumerei Show up in front of him..
Traumerei: you are my pets, im the leader of the LPB family

Yama: that’s great! can we start fighting? You could be stronger but i want to fight you to death because im the king of the mad dogs

WW twisting in his grave: My master i love you kill my son

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To be fair, this IS the chapter discussion after all.

The FB is about him after all but i stopped talking about him cause there’s no parameter in any manga to compare the walking L WW is.. so i put my effort in his sons lets talk about how Yama is going to grow after this..

 

[Turtle hunter]

I can imagine Yama when traumerei Show up in front of him..
Traumerei: you are my pets, im the leader of the LPB family

Yama: that’s great! can we start fighting? You could be stronger but i want to fight you to death because im the king of the mad dogs

WW twisting in his grave: My master i love you kill my son

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The FB is about him after all but i stopped talking about him cause there’s no parameter in any manga to compare the walking L WW is.. so i put my effort in his sons lets talk about how Yama is going to grow after this..

Both Yama and WW are represent extreme side or dog .

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WW trigerred so many people .

 

[sazon]

WW twisting in his grave: My master i love you kill my son

WW fans: MY HERO

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I've been rereading the entire clash between Yas and Yama since the wall of coexistence, it's interesting because now that we know the truth, you can understand that SIU planned the plot of these two well, it was only poorly executed in some parts.

 

[Ignorant]

WW fans: MY HERO

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I've been rereading the entire clash between Yas and Yama since the wall of coexistence, it's interesting because now that we know the truth, you can understand that SIU planned the plot of these two well, it was only poorly executed in some parts.

Fact

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Both Yama and WW are represent extreme side or dog .

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WW trigerred so many people .

Real shit

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But what happens if WW is that one sealed? Remember Traumerei at the end say he can’t kill a dog he raise in reality you can see pain in his words..
What if that the voice of a WW who overcome his instincts ? As Acrinak suggested.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Fact

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Real shit

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But what happens if WW is that one sealed? Remember Traumerei at the end say he can’t kill a dog he raise in reality you can see pain in his words..
What if that the voice of a WW who overcome his instincts ? As Acrinak suggested.

Yama vs WW .

 

[Ignorant]

Yama vs WW .

Hahahaahahhaha that mf is capable of fighting his own sons lol even after the fact that he may overcome his instincts you don’t have faith in him. Lol

 

[sazon]

Oh, one interesting thing I had missed during the weekly.

After absorbing the prey, Yama has that mini flashback with WW and Yas and from his own lines, apparently he saw more than we were shown.

I don't know if he saw everything that happened, even Trau's appearance, but that's what it looks like.

And this is strengthened because, after overcoming the fear and absorbing the prey, Yama doesn't show that explosive behavior towards Yasratcha, as he did before and blaming him for killing their father.

If that's the case, Yama still sees Yas as an enemy and knowing the truth won't change that, after all, he killed his men. In which Yama cares more than his father.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Hahahaahahhaha that mf is capable of fighting his own sons lol even after the fact that he may overcome his instincts you don’t have faith in him. Lol

I actually really want to see that happen .

I wonder how far WW " loyalty " will go .

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Imagine the " orgasm " Rei will take from them fight .

 

[EternalWinter]

I think this is about accurate. Wang wang or yaratcha are ultimately not heroes nor purely evil per say (though yaratcha is a dick). Wang wang said it best, both are driven by their instincts to their very end. Add to that, WW was ultimately helpless through this whole ordeal. Just think of how this looks from ww's perspective.

Yaratcha: Nyan o/
WW: woof o/
Yaratcha: BTW, I might have told the family that you and NN are going to betray them and run of into wherever the fuck.
WW: BUT WHY!?
Yaratcha: Welp, mostly because it's true unless you want to die alongside your wife and kids by your master's hand.
WW: My master would never do that!
Traumerei: Sup! (waves the nen nen kabob)
Yaratcha: Nyan o/
WW: BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BUT WHY THOUGH?
Traumerei: Because I can't even wave a trifle kabob without you betraying me.
Yaratcha: See?
WW: But if you didn't kabob my wife I wouldn't have barked at you!
Traumerei: *Waves the kabob* not good enough.
WW: The past 45 seconds have been so damn intense! I would know, I have an intensity measuring license.

All wang wang did here was pretty much stand around. And assholes just blindsided him with random stuff. There is no scenario where ww could have done more or NN's plan worked.

Um yeah? Anyone other than Rei shows up, NN gets the kids, murks the guy, and meets Yas and WW.

Yas leads the dogs, orders them to stand down. Everyone escapes to scary FUG lands