Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower Of God Chapter 530 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[O_n_Sly]

Question: So I might be displaying some of my ignorance regarding SIU's TOG world. My question is, what exactly is a Shinheuh?

Are they pure shinsoo/energy without physical substance until summoned/manifested by the anima?

Are they animals or creatures that exist in a different dimension that are summoned to the TOG world? If a Shinhueh is defeated or killed, does it actually die or does it just lose suffer a loss of power and a loss of it's ability to remain in the physical world?

Also is it possible for an animal that has physical form somewhere in the Tower to become a shinhueh and be summon able (a form of teleportation) after it makes a contract with the anima?

Divine aquatic animals but they need a bowl by their owners to be active! Anima can control both Shinheuh and Animals!

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It's basically any tower creature that depends on shinsoo.

you can consider any creature that cannot speak to be shinheuh. Although that may change after today's chapter.

The odd-eyed cobra(not on its own) and Yas’ cat cannot talk they are not Shinheuh!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

And in the fb Purdi too was affected by Akrinic’s realm, but not WW or Yas!

It's almost as if this means Yas and NN knew that no one in the LPB family could do anything against the Acrinak, other than Rei, who they thought wouldn't get involved.

Hmmm, that would seem to have implication for Yas' intentions, but that's apparently just me.




Anywho, if THIS is is what Owl brings to the table, (yet another) giant bird summon or not, I certainly don't see how he expected to do much against Acrinak.

For reference, we saw him riding a giant Owl in the FB...

 

[O_n_Sly]

Where as the king crab with Hockney is Shinheuh and can talk lol!!!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Just checked - in the FB the first time we see Pudding he's floating (edit - in the actual Acrinak battle I mean), as in not on the giant owl. Next, he's riding it into battle against Acrinak. More evidence it is a summon after all.



Hence, the giant owl came from relatively nowhere all of a sudden in a matter of seconds on the battlefield.
Pudding only had his bag with him. No giant bowl anywere.
Hence, the giant ow is likely a summons, and it doesn't require a giant bowl.

Hence, it makes no sense that it could not have been brought with.

 

[sazon]

We have already seen the case of heavy aquarius at the beginning of the 2nd wall invasion. They use slaves to carry them.

As we also saw the case of Candidy who only wears a small bag.

In fact, I believe that the question of the aquariu depends a lot on the skill of the anima.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were animas in the LPB family that don't need to use an aquarium, for example. Dokoko and Yorari can own a shinheuh and MAYBE WgW can merge with yours, so it's not unreasonable to imagine that.

Another interesting factor, we don't know the limits of the shape of an aquarium, of all the LPB animas that appeared, Candidy was the only one that appeared with something that evidences this. Look at Yasratcha, he's practically with his cat all the time and doesn't seem to walk around with anything.

And there's also the issue of Rei's kaijuu being special. Maybe they don't need an aquarium either.

Anyway, maybe this will never be explained.

 

[AshDVanguard]

No, that's an idiotic argument. Your accomplishments cannot be taken away no matter what. Jinsung's accomplishments are worthy of Top 100 High Ranker while Evankhell's (slaughtering a Floor Ruler, the Last Station, being a mercenary that fought in many battlefields, etc.) are

It is literally what happened you can't change the story to fit your narrative.
I'm pretty sure if adori got fired from being the head of the army her position would fall aswell, regardless if she had previously accomplished it or not.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Animas control Shinheuh and other creatures! The experiment that took place on WW and Yas was human children mixed with beast genes, not Shinheuh genes lol!!!

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All beast cannot be considered Shinheuh LOL

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Updated with relevant points:


Just checked - in the FB the first time we see Pudding he's floating (edit - in the actual Acrinak battle I mean), as in not on the giant owl. Next, he's riding it into battle against Acrinak. More evidence it is a summon after all.



Hence, the giant owl came from relatively nowhere all of a sudden in a matter of seconds on the battlefield.
Pudding only had his bag with him. No giant bowl anywere.
Hence, the giant ow is likely a summons, and it doesn't require a giant bowl.

Hence, it makes no sense that it could not have been brought with.

 

[Fun]

For the Ancient Cobra it has the duty to guard The Frozen Waterfall, different circumstance i think.

Yes they didn't expect to fight Jinsung, but at the very least they should be prepared to fight against the Po Bidau family.

Meanwhile Owl BH purposefully left his shinheuh in the Mothership for no good reason. Hence he is limited to what is available to him.

I could see why some of the members see it as an excuse.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

For the Ancient Cobra it has the duty to guard The Frozen Waterfall, different circumstance i think.

Yes they didn't expect to fight Jinsung, but at the very least they should be prepared to fight against the Po Bidau family.

Meanwhile Owl BH purposefully left his shinheuh in the Mothership for no good reason. Hence he is limited to what is available to him.

I could see why some of the members see it as an excuse.

It IS an excuse.

- they knew that there was a battle going on before they left
- they knew the possibility of hostiles, even ones unexpected, exists. As you point out the Po Bidau family could show up, or other FUG forces
- bowls should be portable
- we've already seen the giant own go from nowhere to somewhere in a matter of panels, i.e., it is a summons and all Pudding had was his bag

 

[sazon]

Okay, he didn't expect to face anyone powerful, but so what?

The guy has been an HR for thousands of years, he should have known that he should always be prepared for everything.

There's nothing to defend, it was a stupid excuse.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Updated with relevant points:


Just checked - in the FB the first time we see Pudding he's floating (edit - in the actual Acrinak battle I mean), as in not on the giant owl. Next, he's riding it into battle against Acrinak. More evidence it is a summon after all.



Hence, the giant owl came from relatively nowhere all of a sudden in a matter of seconds on the battlefield.
Pudding only had his bag with him. No giant bowl anywere.
Hence, the giant ow is likely a summons, and it doesn't require a giant bowl.

Hence, it makes no sense that it could not have been brought with.

Or the Owl was right beside them whole time! He’s in the air talking to someone or something about landing a big strike LOL

it was not the gray wolf BH he was talking to, that guy was too busy being a coward!

 

[magicallypuzzled]

It's almost as if this means Yas and NN knew that no one in the LPB family could do anything against the Acrinak, other than Rei, who they thought wouldn't get involved.

Hmmm, that would seem to have implication for Yas' intentions, but that's apparently just me.




Anywho, if THIS is is what Owl brings to the table, (yet another) giant bird summon or not, I certainly don't see how he expected to do much against Acrinak.

For reference, we saw him riding a giant Owl in the FB...

this implies that yas though lpb were too stupid to come to the obvious conclusion that the family head was needed once he told them who was attacking. if he hadnt told them what was happening its actually more likely that the underlings would of tried to handle it themselves instead of bothering the family head. not to mention that nenen would of been further along in the rescue op and thus had a better chance of getting out in general, i honestly dont know why i am letting myself be sucked back into this stupid argument i just cant let the stupid go without commenting on it.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

• She was low diffed and oneshot by Whitegarment Widow.

In her defense, she was exhausted

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

this implies that yas though lpb were too stupid to come to the obvious conclusion that the family head was needed once he told them who was attacking. if he hadnt told them what was happening its actually more likely that the underlings would of tried to handle it themselves instead of bothering the family head not to mention that nenen would of been further along in the rescue op and thus had a better chance of getting out in general, i honestly dont know why i am letting myself be sucked back into this stupid argument i just cant let the stupid go without commenting on it.

Comment away! (although you should have replied LAST chapter discussion as I made the same argument there)

You're simply wrong though. As far as intent goes.

One could make the argument that Yas was being naive. That's completely reasonable, and turns out true.

- But it is inarguable that Yas *did not expect Rei to get involved* - and neither did NN either. If you can't accept that point you are being purposefully ignorant. He literally thinks this in his head, it isn't debatable that he didn't INTEND Rei to get involved.

- It's also inarguable that Yas wasn't purposefully trying to control the situation from the start, and he pointedly says not to make a big deal out of it by handling it at the level they are at. He tried to get in front of it before it became an issue, possibly triggering Rei. Naive, sure. But that was the plan regardless.

 

[sazon]

I don't know how many here play MMO's or the like, but do you guys swap gear or take your items away when you visit a lower level field? It's the same thing.

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For God's sake, stop this discussion about WW, the flashback is over.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Or the Owl was right beside them whole time! He’s in the air talking to someone or something about landing a big strike LOL

it was not the gray wolf BH he was talking to, that guy was too busy being a coward!

So, the giant summons are literally shown below, but not the owl for some strange reason. It's curiously hovering off-screen.

You have a flying owl next to you, that you ride for battle, going into battle, but instead chose to float yourself. Just to hop on it anyways.



Seems legit.

 

[sazon]

no discord translation yet?

 

[magicallypuzzled]

Comment away! (although you should have replied LAST chapter discussion as I made the same argument there)

You're simply wrong though. As far as intent goes.

One could make the argument that Yas was being naive. That's completely reasonable, and turns out true.

- But it is inarguable that Yas *did not expect Rei to get involved* - and neither did NN either. If you can't accept that point you are being purposefully ignorant. He literally thinks this in his head, it isn't debatable that he didn't INTEND Rei to get involved.

- It's also inarguable that Yas wasn't purposefully trying to control the situation from the start, and he pointedly says not to make a big deal out of it by handling it at the level they are at. He tried to get in front of it before it became an issue, possibly triggering Rei. Naive, sure. But that was the plan regardless.

meh i can buy yas being that stupid what i cant buy is nennen being that stupid. thus its clear nenen wasnt in on yas's betrayal and it was in fact a betrayal. but really thats been clear from the start, i am really and truely done i wont be continuing this conversation i shouldnt have started it back up to begin with. if you want to continue to believe it was all planned than by all means have at it.

 

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