Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

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@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin this
Translated chapter (by alpha scans)---
 

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In her defense, she was exhausted
That old chestnut.

Another SIU excuse. Everyone was made exhausted. Though I agree, it's hard to tell how strong any character is or isn't due to there ALWAYS being some mitigating circumstances.

WGW also has some stupid OP shield that is a relic/gift of Rei's. She's likely on par with EVK, so this shield puts her over the top.
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meh i can buy yas being that stupid what i cant buy is nennen being that stupid. thus its clear nenen wasnt in on yas's betrayal and it was in fact a betrayal. but really thats been clear from the start,
I'll see you in last chap's discussion if you want a response, which I suspect you don't.

I think you're still glossing over the importance of Yas not suspecting Rei to get involved. I can elaborate there.
 

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Jinsung thinks or says this: "[ I just fought against someone very strong a moment ago. ]"

Is this referencing Kallavan? I wonder how much time has actually passed from his perspective to call it a 'moment'.



Anywho, the fact that the voice 'exists' in the very air/shinsoo makes me think elemental, which ofc is what the Native One five components are/were - elemental energies. Doubling down that this is the crystal/metal elemental from the five.
 

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That old chestnut.

Another SIU excuse. Everyone was made exhausted. Though I agree, it's hard to tell how strong any character is or isn't due to there ALWAYS being some mitigating circumstances.
T'was a very frustrating time indeed

SIU:


But the point I was trying to make was that saying Evk isnt cc level because she was getting beat up by WGW is the same as saying Kallavan isnt cc level because Lyb was giving him a beatdown.
 

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ohoho

so Owl is top 10 in the family? I assume that means he's within the 5-10, which also consist of Horse and Spider. It's pretty impressive that there are at least 10 top 100 HR within the Great Family.

That means Prime White was counted among the top 10 strongest within the Arie Family as well.
 

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Forgetting this stupid fight.

Apparently, the sealed thing is extremely powerful.

Perhaps Rei really does suffer a loss here.

BH's shinheuh have already proved to be extremely strong. Windbird was able to put pressure on Paul and Doom, while the ancient snake put fear throughout HG.

Now imagine a Shinheuh strong enough that Traumerei cannot control?

I think our irregular friends are finally going to take our idiot MC seriously.
 

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T'was a very frustrating time indeed

SIU:


But the point I was trying to make was that saying Evk isnt cc level because she was getting beat up by WGW is the same as saying Kallavan isnt cc level because Lyb was giving him a beatdown.
No, I generally agree.

EVK was also obviously taken off-guard, also being 'tired', as the shield proved something she hadn't seen before. If she was taking the fight more seriously, why didn't she use elephire summons or her 'shinsoo-burning' flames?

Maybe she can't summon without enough energy as it were?
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ohoho

so Owl is top 10 in the family? I assume that means he's within the 5-10, which also consist of Horse and Spider. It's pretty impressive that there are at least 10 top 100 HR within the Great Family.

That means Prime White was counted among the top 10 strongest within the Arie Family as well.
I'm not understanding how the top 10 in the family are automatically top 100 HRs?

What if the top 10 LPB had a top 5 that were in the hundreds, and 6-10 being in top 200s? (arbitrary figures)

Forgetting this stupid fight.

Apparently, the sealed thing is extremely powerful.

Perhaps Rei really does suffer a loss here.

BH's shinheuh have already proved to be extremely strong. Whindbird was able to put pressure on Windbird Paul and Doom, while the ancient snake put fear throughout HG.

Now imagine a Shinheuh strong enough that Traumerei cannot control?

I think our irregular friends are finally going to take our idiot MC seriously.
Still begs the question of how Rei put it down to begin with.
 

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I'm not understanding how the top 10 in the family are automatically top 100 HRs?

What if the top 10 LPB had a top 5 that were in the hundreds, and 6-10 being in top 200s? (arbitrary figures)
top 100 HR in combat prowess*

I don't expect all of their actual rankings to be within the top 100 though if that's what you're confused about. Pudidy was used as the standard for the family's top 10 fighters and he seems relatively on par with Jinsung at least.
 

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ohoho

so Owl is top 10 in the family? I assume that means he's within the 5-10, which also consist of Horse and Spider. It's pretty impressive that there are at least 10 top 100 HR within the Great Family.

That means Prime White was counted among the top 10 strongest within the Arie Family as well.
I don't think a family that isn't part of the trinity (Ha-Koon-Arie) has that many top 100.

Apart from FH, maybe they only have: Perseus, WgW, Pudidy, Yorari and Yasratcha
 

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I don't think a family that isn't part of the trinity (Ha-Koon-Arie) has that many top 100.

Apart from FH, maybe they only have: Perseus, WgW, Pudidy, Yorari and Yasratcha
why though? We just got confirmation that Owl is top 10 in the family. Seems to indicate at least 10 of them being top 100 and stronger.
 

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Jinsung thinks or says this: "[ I just fought against someone very strong a moment ago. ]"

Is this referencing Kallavan? I wonder how much time has actually passed from his perspective to call it a 'moment'.



Anywho, the fact that the voice 'exists' in the very air/shinsoo makes me think elemental, which ofc is what the Native One five components are/were - elemental energies. Doubling down that this is the crystal/metal elemental from the five.
when you are 5 thousand or atleast a few thousand years old a mere few months or even years will seem like a moment to you too.
 

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Two questions:

- Perseus says that the two regents of the family have a power incomparable to theirs and they appear to be at least a top 60.

So, do you think all families have 2 rulers? Because it's already the second case we have, and if so, do you agree that all these conductors are in the top 30?
 

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when you are 5 thousand or atleast a few thousand years old a mere few months or even years will seem like a moment to you too.
I get the concept of time relativity.

'moment' still seems like an odd choice of words, even still. But I'm admittedly being nitpicky here.
 

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And in the fb Purdi too was affected by Akrinic’s realm,
This was not shown.


Anywho, if THIS is is what Owl brings to the table, (yet another) giant bird summon or not, I certainly don't see how he expected to do much against Acrinak.

For reference, we saw him riding a giant Owl in the FB...
Eagle Owl not withstanding, Pudidy is just getting warmed up here. Jinsung outright says as such. At the end of the chapter, he comments that Pudidy now seems to be "excited".


It is literally what happened you can't change the story to fit your narrative.
I'm pretty sure if adori got fired from being the head of the army her position would fall aswell, regardless if she had previously accomplished it or not.
Enne is #7 without any special position and due to her accomplishments only.

Jinsung is Top 100 without any special position and due to his accomplishments alone.

Evankhell's accomplishments merit only a Top 300 Rank.
 

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Eagle Owl not withstanding, Pudidy is just getting warmed up here. Jinsung outright says as such. At the end of the chapter, he comments that Pudidy now seems to be "excited".
I think Jinsung needs a W here, and redemption of sorts.

I just don't think SIU will give it to us considering he's already pulling 'ah, damn, I nerfed myself' to one of LPB's biggest players. If Owl dies or has a crushing defeat here and it's basically all due to his summon not being with him, well, IDK what to even say about that.

Although, I'm not a fan of Owl really, I'd love nothing more than Jinsung to pull out some move (it doesn't even have to be Crouching Tiger...) and smash that Pudding with his fists.
 

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This was not shown.



Eagle Owl not withstanding, Pudidy is just getting warmed up here. Jinsung outright says as such. At the end of the chapter, he comments that Pudidy now seems to be "excited".



Enne is #7 without any special position and due to her accomplishments only.

Jinsung is Top 100 without any special position and due to his accomplishments alone.

Evankhell's accomplishments merit only a Top 300 Rank.
EVK if she survive this war is definitely going by to top 100 by accomplishments. She already decimated an entire Corps alone and now probably gets to beat the mama spider.
 

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why though? We just got confirmation that Owl is top 10 in the family. Seems to indicate at least 10 of them being top 100 and stronger.
Being one of the top 10 in the family doesn't mean you're top 100.

We have confirmation from Lefav that to be an official BH you need to at least enter the top 200.

Pudidy, WgW and Perseus are the strongest BHs, so it makes sense for them to be in the top 100, even because we have examples of them compared to EVK, which despite what many say, has already shown several times that it deserved the position it had.

I agree that Pudidy might be in the 6-10 range, but he's probably 6, not something like 10.

Why do I think so? If all 10 families had 10 top 100 people, the account would never close.

Like >>>>>I<<<<< I think it's rating:

Traumerei
Kirin
another regent
Yasracha
perseus
WgW
pudding
Yorari
2 random BH

Yes, I believe in Yasratcha's supremacy and I know they will complain about his position. lmao
 

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Let's go, Jinsung.
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Being one of the top 10 in the family doesn't mean you're top 100.

We have confirmation from Lefav that to be an official BH you need to at least enter the top 200.

Pudidy, WgW and Perseus are the strongest BHs, so it makes sense for them to be in the top 100, even because we have examples of them compared to EVK, which despite what many say, has already shown several times that it deserved the position it had.

I agree that Pudidy might be in the 6-10 range, but he's probably 6, not something like 10.

Why do I think so? If all 10 families had 10 top 100 people, the account would never close.

Like >>>>>I<<<<< I think it's rating:

Traumerei
Kirin
another regent
Yasracha
perseus
WgW
pudding
Yorari
2 random BH

Yes, I believe in Yasratcha's supremacy and I know they will complain about his position. lmao
Yeah, I mean, being in the top 10 we can't assume they are all automatically close to the same in strength.

There's probably some stratification even among the top ten, which means the weaker ones aren't going to be on the same level as those that are on par with someone that can automatically take on a top100 HR with ease.

IMO, completely arbitrary, I think every family having roughly 5 top 100HRs is about right (implying a rough average - some more or less). That's 50 of the top 100. Then the top Z princesses. The irregulars themselves. Insanely strong tower-born should be in the minority. That leaves maybe 20 randos. Blue Holes don't really count because they don't take up one of those slots.
 
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