Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

[Cinera]

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[Jyu viole grace]

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Translated chapter (by alpha scans)---

Tower Of God Chapter 530 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

alpha-scans.org

 

[Cinera]

I don't think a family that isn't part of the trinity (Ha-Koon-Arie) has that many top 100.

Apart from FH, maybe they only have: Perseus, WgW, Pudidy, Yorari and Yasratcha

Yorari is in all likelihood not Top 10 in the Lo Po Bia Family:

1. He's not one of the Top 3 Branch Leaders.
   • If he was a peer to the Top 3, it would have been Top 4 instead of Top 3.
2. During the Acrinak battle he was grouped with two other random Branch Leaders.
   • And he was less prominent than the Grey Wolf Branch Leader.
   • Nothing suggested that he was clearly much more powerful than them.

The Lo Po Bia Family has several people above all Branch Leaders.

1. Pudidy appears to be the strongest Branch Leader.
   • Perseus was taking orders from him.
   • He appears to have been an Escort for Traumerei before.
     • Meanwhile, it was Perseus' first time as an Escort.
   • He appeared to be the Captain of the Acrinak mission.
   • Jinsung even comments that he was one of the most experienced in the Lo Po Bia Army.
2. Owl is only Top 10 in the Family despite being the strongest Branch Leader.
   • This suggests that Owl is not Top 5 in the Lo Po Bia Family.
   • This suggests the existence of at least 5 people (excluding Traumerei) stronger than ALLthe Branch Leaders within the Family.
     • Most likely members of the Main Family.

So yeah, the dialogue in this chapter suggests that the Lo Po Bia Family has 5 - 10 people that are comparable to the Top 100 in combat ability.


@Shadowlord123, @hblock.

 

[sazon]

Yorari is in all likelihood not Top 10 in the Lo Po Bia Family:

1. He's not one of the Top 3 Branch Leaders.
   • If he was a peer to the Top 3, it would have been Top 4 instead of Top 3.
2. During the Acrinak battle he was grouped with two other random Branch Leaders.
   • And he was less prominent than the Grey Wolf Branch Leader.
   • Nothing suggested that he was clearly much more powerful than them.

The Lo Po Bia Family has several people above all Branch Leaders.

1. Owl appears to be the strongest Branch Leader.
   • Pudidy was taking orders from him.
   • He appears to have been an Escort for Traumerei before.
   • He appeared to be the Captain of the Acrinak mission.
   • Jinsung even comments that he was one of the most experienced in the Lo Po Bia Army.
2. Owl is only Top 10 in the Family despite being the strongest Branch Leader.
   • This suggests that Owl is not Top 5 in the Lo Po Bia Family.
   • This suggests the existence of at least 5 people (excluding Traumerei) stronger than ALL the Branch Leaders within the Family.

So yeah, the dialogue in this chapter suggests that the Lo Po Bia Family has 5 - 10 people that are comparable to the Top 100 in combat ability.


@Shadowlord123, @hblock.

Dude, what does one have to do with the other? For God.

Yorari is weaker than the top 3 BH so what? does that keep him from being a top 3, 4 or whatever?

A top 3 is different from a top 5 which in turn is different from a top 10.

Did you see Yorari on the battlefield? Do you know if all BH were present with the kaiju? Do you know the rank of the leader of the wolf branch? You are simply creating affirmations based on shallow assumptions.

And Pudidy never gave orders to Perseus, he just left a reminder, watch how people have betrayed Kirin and how the two treat each other.

So that Pudidy is the most active BH, does that say anything?

Please tell me where these various rankers above BH were mentioned?

- Several times it has been mentioned that the BH are the main strength of the LPB family.

- The strongest BH are the King's escort and who command the operations.

- We have an extremely explicit dialogue where it says that above the top 3 BH there are only 2 people in the hierarchy, who are those who can assume the leadership of the family in times of war.

So where are these other 3 top 100 rankers?

 

[Cinera]

Like >>>>>I<<<<< I think it's rating:

Traumerei
Kirin
another regent
Yasracha
perseus
WgW
pudding
Yorari
2 random BH

Yes, I believe in Yasratcha's supremacy and I know they will complain about his position.

Pudidy is almost certainly the strongest Branch Leader:

• Perseus was taking orders from him.
• He appears to have been an Escort for Traumerei before.
  • Meanwhile, it was Perseus' first time as an Escort.
• He appeared to be the Captain of the Acrinak mission.
• Jinsung even comments that he was one of the most experienced in the Lo Po Bia Army.

Yorari is not one of the most powerful Branch Leaders:

1. He's not one of the Top 3 Branch Leaders.
   • If he was a peer to the Top 3, it would have been Top 4 instead of Top 3.
2. During the Acrinak battle he was grouped with two other random Branch Leaders.
   • And he was less prominent than the Grey Wolf Branch Leader.
   • Nothing suggested that he was clearly much more powerful than them.

Traumerei is probably not included in this Top 10 list. The Family Leaders are often excluded when talking about their Families. Furthermore, Yuri was said to be the most talented member of the Ha Family. Not because she's more talented than Yuri, but because Yurin is implicitly excluded.


If I was to make concrete guess at the Top 10 of the Lo Po Bia Family:

• Two Deputies
  • Kirin?
• 5 other members of the Main Family
  • The earliest Direct Descendants?
  • Yasratcha
  • Other Great Tamers of the Lo Po Bia Army
• The Top 3 Branch Leaders
  • Pudidy
  • Perseus
  • Whitegarment Widow

 

[Big-Bird]

Daily summary:
-Jinsung blocks Pudidy and Holan
-Pudidy hasn't brought his combat shinneuh (he lectured Perseus on how to be ready, saying that a BH is dead, but he doesn't prepare himself that well) and wonders what the hell Mas is doing
-Holan wants to deal with jinsung on his own (even though he knows jinsung by reputation) Pudidy tells him that he is delusional and that they will take him in 2
-Holan accepts (surprisingly he is very obedient I would think he would be more daring with his position as CBH's in chief)

-Pudidy uses lots of little Owls and throws them at Jinsung and blows them up
-Jinsung tanks and pushes Pudidy away
-He mentions that Pudi is rusty and not used to fighting strong people anymore
-Pudi asks Holan to attack and he attacks and pushes Jinsung back (Holan is actually strong and if he can push him back he can even hurt him)
-Pudi and Jinsung exchange blows/blocks (although Pudy admits that Jinsung is in the lead)
-Holan says Pudi is in the top 10 of the family ( Pudi, Perseus, WGW, Kirin and unknown regent, there are 5 places left I hope for other BH like Yorari, the shark BH and other main family members. )

-Back to Baam who hears the "thing" get excited all by itself( you are locked up, that means Traumerai beat you and locked you up there) and wants Traum to fall into the abyss ( whatever that means)

 

[sazon]

Pudidy hasn't brought his combat shinneuh (he lectured Perseus on how to be ready, saying that a BH is dead, but he doesn't prepare himself that well) and wonders what the hell

I'd forgotten about that part of him saying beware. Things only get worse for him. lmao

 

[Cinera]

Yorari is weaker than the top 3 BH so what? does that keep him from being a top 3, 4 or whatever?

Yes it does. In the Acrinak flashback, he was grouped with two other Branch Leaders and was a background character. The Wolf Branch Leader was more prominent in that battle than him.

Did you see Yorari on the battlefield? Do you know if all BH were present with the kaiju? Do you know the rank of the leader of the wolf branch? You are simply creating affirmations based on shallow assumptions.

We saw Yorari's snake on the battlefield. We've already seen Yorari send his snake out to battle and not participate directly.

And Pudidy never gave orders to Perseus, he just left a reminder, watch how people have betrayed Kirin and how the two treat each other.

Pudidy told Perseus to stay behind and that he would go with Haland to retrieve Jinsung. That's as clear an order as it gets.

Pudidy is also the one who announced the Family Leader's arrival and told everyone to bow (you know, what Kirin was often shown doing in the flashback).

And Pudidy was the one who responded to Traumerei's inquiry about Baam.

Please tell me where these various rankers above BH were mentioned?

The Main Family has been mentioned several times:

• Elaine's flashback by Alphine
• Yasratcha's flashback by the person who complained about the two Branch Leaders making a nuisance of themselves.

There's also the Lo Po Bia Army:

• Kirin is a Great Tamer in the Lo Po Bia Army.
• The three way alliance that Lyborick represents is between the Lo Po Bia Army, the Khun Family and the Zahard Army.
• Before he became a Branch Leader, Pudidy was an officer in the Lo Po Bia Army.

- Several times it has been mentioned that the BH are the main strength of the LPB family.

This has never been the case. Hell, Jinsung berated Owl this chapter saying that his senses dulled after he became a Branch Leader.

The main strength of the Lo Po Bia Family is the Lo Po Bia Army. And members of the Army aren't Branch Leaders.

- We have an extremely explicit dialogue where it says that above the top 3 BH there are only 2 people in the hierarchy, who are those who can assume the leadership of the family in times of war.

It doesn't say only two people. It just says that there are two people that the Top Branch Leaders can never reach. There is no claim that these are the only people stronger than the Branch Leaders.

 

[lazybum]

This was not shown.

WW was surprised to see everyone stopped. There's a panel showing Elaine's branch leader (?) waking up. Acrinak commented that only WW is not affected by its power. Though not shown, Pudidy is likely affected too (I imagine him reacting why everyone but WW got stopped).

Tower Of God Chapter 527 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

alpha-scans.org

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Obvious post is obvious, but I think 6 is the magic number of the highest average that can be had by the GF's.

100 top 100 starting

- 15 irregulars (at least, SIU has been mum of the total number of irregulars for some reason). Possibly 16 if Illarde counts.

85 top 100 left

- at least 4 known princess (although they only count as 3 spots as 2 are tied)

82 top 100 left

- 5 known insanely strong tower-born (molic, luslec, baek, evan, and jinsung are confirmed IIRC - White, Yama, Yas, Kallavan [current rank], EVK [current rank], Cha, Dowon, and probably a few I'm missing are currently unknown, but suspected top 100 if not close)

77 top 100 left

So, there's only 77 slots, max, left, and plenty of known and unknown candidates already that have to be addressed. For example, there's certainly floor rulers (of which are roughly 100+ HRs) that certainly get into the top 100 no doubt. But there are some overlaps such as EVK, and the FH's. But I can't picture a lot of weak-ass floor rulers. Some of the stronger top 100's in each family are no doubt floor rulers as well.

If each of the GF's had 6 on average tops, that's 66, leaving ONLY 11 spots between what we know is currently accounted for (77 as calculated above) and the top 100 potential of each family (some overlap, but an extra 66). Bloodmadder is a separate issue, but he certainly has adopted some top 100, no?

11 other openings still seems low considering all the potentials that aren't confirmed top 100, but seem like they should be. For instance, we have at least 3 other CC's, possibly more (if 6, 7, 8, etc corps exist - at least 1 2 and 3) and they are certainly top 100 material (Adori I believe is pulling double-duty as Corps 1 CC and Captain of the entire army). Then, there are princesses we know exist but have no rankings, I don't see why more of them aren't top100 easy.

As that doesn't leave a whole lot of wiggle room, I suspect each family having no more than 4 or 5 top100 HRs on average being closer to reality.





Not that any of this matters as SIU is a dick when it comes to giving us rankings.

 

[shaheer]

Siu can simply end yas v yama in the background while showing us the final result in a panel and I wouldn't miss a thing. All these useless flashback that took on chapters with no actual content on the current stuffs is just silly.
HJ s fights are refreshing, I really don't care if he is martial arts accurate especially in a world with shinsoo and flying men.
Why can't we just see the end of this arc. Its excruciatingly long and at times pointlessly so. And almost like Siu is trying to wag around eye candies for folks to get excited only to be painted in the corner and jump to a new Room to do the same.

 

[Cinera]

Plot twist: Maschenny is using HJ to buy time to use a portal and bring Gustang to the nest.

This makes little sense. If Maschenny was going to try and bring Gustang to the Nest, why wait until after Traumerei showed up? She was the one who initiated Traumerei's arrival by announcing that she had caught the Irregular. If she really wanted Gustang to be present to combat Traumerei, she could have summoned him before notifying the Lo Po Bia that she had caught Baam.

Hell, with Urek's bracelet, Gustang could easily have disguised himself.

I get the concept of time relativity.

'moment' still seems like an odd choice of words, even still. But I'm admittedly being nitpicky here.

We could see what terms other translations use.

EVK if she survive this war is definitely going by to top 100 by accomplishments. She already decimated an entire Corps alone and now probably gets to beat the mama spider.

No she's not:

1. Whitegarment Widow isn't confirmed to be a Top 100 High Ranker.
2. Besting an Army Corps without the Corps Commander is by Evankhell's own admission, something that any Top 300 High Ranker should be capable of.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Then we have those that operate on the line between one GF and another - the Ha twins (even though technically Ha, it's hard to discount they are equally strong Ari HR's by blood) and Lyb for instance. Who knows how many hybrids like those, with mixed blood.

 

[sazon]

Yes it does. In the Acrinak flashback, he was grouped with two other Branch Leaders and was a background character. The Wolf Branch Leader was more prominent in that battle than him.

Did you see Yorari on the battlefield? I'm asking you this.

We saw Yorari's snake on the battlefield. We've already seen Yorari send his snake out to battle and not participate directly.

Yes, we saw the snake, but did we see Yorari? Can we say he was there?

And what about the BH of the wolf branch? Did we know your rating? As far as we know today, she is not even alive anymore, as her branch has degraded and was almost destroyed.

Pudidy told Perseus to stay behind and that he would go with Haland to retrieve Jinsung. That's as clear an order as it gets.

Pudidy is also the one who announced the Family Leader's arrival and told everyone to bow (you know, what Kirin was often shown doing in the flashback).

And Pudidy was the one who responded to Traumerei's inquiry about Baam.

Your little darling who was stopped by Acrinak and doesn't even take his crossbow to the fight didn't give Perseus an order, it was just a dialogue, look at the difference between Kirin for the two of them, does it seem like a hierarchical relationship?

The Main Family has been mentioned several times:

• Elaine's flashback by Alphine
• Yasratcha's flashback by the person who complained about the two Branch Leaders making a nuisance of themselves.

There's also the Lo Po Bia Army:

• Kirin is a Great Tamer in the Lo Po Bia Army.
• The three way alliance that Lyborick represents is between the Lo Po Bia Army, the Khun Family and the Zahard Army.
• Before he became a Branch Leader, Pudidy was an officer in the Lo Po Bia Army.

Interesting that one of Traumerei's children, that is, from the main family, is a BH.

Understand, I have information inside the webtoon that says there are 2 people above BH and I have you wanting to assume Sly's position as SIU saying that there are 5. It's hard to know who I believe

This has never been the case. Hell, Jinsung berated Owl this chapter saying that his senses dulled after he became a Branch Leader.

The main strength of the Lo Po Bia Family is the Lo Po Bia Army. And members of the Army aren't Branch Leaders

the LPB army is the branches themselves, man.

If there's a greater force than the BH, why would Yas do anything for Kirin not to bring them? Why do we have BH leading the fight against Acrinak?

 

[VON]

Being one of the top 10 in the family doesn't mean you're top 100.

We have confirmation from Lefav that to be an official BH you need to at least enter the top 200.

Pudidy, WgW and Perseus are the strongest BHs, so it makes sense for them to be in the top 100, even because we have examples of them compared to EVK, which despite what many say, has already shown several times that it deserved the position it had.

I agree that Pudidy might be in the 6-10 range, but he's probably 6, not something like 10.

Why do I think so? If all 10 families had 10 top 100 people, the account would never close.

Like >>>>>I<<<<< I think it's rating:

Traumerei
Kirin
another regent
Yasracha
perseus
WgW
pudding
Yorari
2 random BH

Yes, I believe in Yasratcha's supremacy and I know they will complain about his position. lmao

I never counted the leader amongs it's ranking. Besides, we've only seen the 2 regents and Yas from the main family. There's still gotta be more beasts within the main family itself and Owl, Horse, and Spider are part of the branch family hence why I think its entirely possible for the three to occupy 8-10 with interchangeable ranks.

 

[lazybum]

Why can't we just see the end of this arc. Its excruciatingly long and at times pointlessly so. And almost like Siu is trying to wag around eye candies for folks to get excited only to be painted in the corner and jump to a new Room to do the same.

As an author, I have a feeling the Nest Arc will become too large scale for a weekly series,
so I am quite worried.
Sometimes I want to find an excuse and take a break but haha.
I will try my best.

Link to blogpost

SIU predicted this arc is gonna be a drag. He even acknowledged he was being slow with the little skit some chapters back

 

[Cinera]

- at least 4 known princess (although they only count as 3 spots as 2 are tied

No. Adori and Enne take up positions #7 and #8. Both are tied for #7, but because of this, there's no #8.

So we have at least 4 spots in the Top 100 taken by Princesses. Though I suspect that it's a lot more than that.

Kallavan [current rank]

He's not a Corps Commander currently.

White, Yama, Yas, Kallavan

I don't think any of these are Top 100 High Rankers. That is I don't think their actual Rank is in the double digits.

Cha, Dowon

They are not even necessarily Ranked considering that they were sealed during Genesis. They are likely Blue Holes.

For instance, we have at least 3 other CC's, possibly more (if 6, 7, 8, etc corps exist - at

While the CCs may be Top 100, that is not necessarily the case.

 

[Headlights]

Jinsung playing Angry Birds...

 

[HakunaMatata]

I love how everyone fights every other week about who's part of top 100 as if being top 101-300 among *Trump's voice* billions and billions of people was lame af lmao

 

[lazybum]

I love how everyone fights every other week about who's part of top 100 as if being top 101-300 among *Trump's voice* billions and billions of people was lame af lmao

You can never flee from power level debate

 

[EternalWinter]

Show me where it says that a Ranker can directly rule multiple Floors.



How many children do you think Hon has? He said that he has countless sons when speaking to Hoaquin.

This hypothesis makes no sense. There are likely thousands of Arie.



And why on earth would Maschenny do that? The whole point of sending Jinsung instead of Asensio/Icardi (or going herself) is to mask her treason for a little longer. Directly intervening to kill the Lo Po Bia defeats the entire point.

The Biography said this was false. He has very few kids and only like 3-4 princesses

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 13, 2022, Original Post Date: Feb 13, 2022 ---

Have to agree with Cinera on this. I don't think the time is right yet for Machenny to openly oppose the hard core Jahadists yet, however that time will surely come. In my opinion, When Bam becomes the defacto leader of the FUG Minions, then other powers will be empowered and emboldened to show themselves.

There needs to be a credible power that stands a chance of defeating Jahad, not only by virtue of raw power, but there is something about Bam that is able to defy Jahad's Fate related abilities which has stymied others in the past, but has no effect on Bam. Moreover he has the power to annul spells and unseal things and people. With this ability, Bam will at some point free Enne Eurasia-Gustang-Jahad. If this happens, Gustang may come out in the open, so might Eurasia. If these two come out openly, then so also will Yurin, and Khun Eduan.

If the above does happen, I can see Maschenny becoming completely free to unleash her warrior princess mode. No more mistress nice princess pretenses.

Before all this, Bam will probably first defeat Hendolock Bloodmadder, and maybe Traumeiri. I think he needs to defeat Hendo first if he is going to save to save YHS.

Maschenny could become one of Baam’s wives too. No better way to declare war on the empire

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 13, 2022 ---

Baam = Rand Al Thor

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Hell, with Urek's bracelet, Gustang could easily have disguised himself.

There are some that still don't believe this is the third gift brought by Rachel (the other two being the bracelet and Wangnan's ring), even though we clearly see it in one panel along with the other two.

But, yes, now Gustang can go off the radar. Even more reason for him to slip in and sneak attack.

Link to blogpost

SIU predicted this arc is gonna be a drag. He even acknowledged he was being slow with the little skit some chapters back

SIU has nerfed himself, as he too is exhausted. It's no surprise all the characters suddenly suffered from exhaustion.