Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

Jyu viole grace

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Sep 18, 2021
Messages
359
Reaction score
2,807
Age
24
Gender
Male
Country
India
@Demonspeed @Lady pompom please pin this
Translated chapter (by alpha scans)---
 

Jubei_Kibagami

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Nov 26, 2018
Messages
6,815
Reaction score
11,877
Age
42
Country
United States
There’s people who debate to understand and explain a point and others who don’t even read they just wanted answer you to not lose the debate
Oh, believe me, I can tell. When every freaking line is something they disagree about even when it should instead be generally agreeable commentary, even the meaning of words and getting into the weeds with semantics, insisting their assumptions are superior just because they assert them as so, don't offer sources but instead demand them of you, constantly conflate two unrelated things, repeatedly misconstrue things you said, straw man against things you didn't, gloss over good points you make that aren't convenient for their points, and generally get you tired down in the muck and minutiae that is arguing just to argue - it becomes painfully transparent.

BB:

I'm beginning to find you condescending, I didn't patronise you so I'm going to ask you to calm down
Also BB, 5 seconds prior:

get your sophistry of authority out of my face
Hypocrisy is a bad look my man.
 

EternalWinter

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Jun 11, 2019
Messages
2,129
Reaction score
3,889
Age
35
Country
United States
He said someone "very strong", so it's a single person not several people.

I think he's just referring to his fight with Kallavan. Jinsung is several tens of thousands of years old, so maybe his fight with Kallavan two years ago was but a moment for him.

Furthermore, he did nothing for those two years (he was locked up) so the fight with Kallavan was his last action.



Arie Hon Zahard is also mentioned in the Arie Family profile. This gives them three.
Didn’t you just quote me saying we can’t use the profiles?

the profile also said Hon had few children and fewer princesse. You can’t have it both ways
 

Ignorant

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
6,586
Reaction score
9,632
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
Dominican Republic
TBH if LPB just can use animals or spirit to fight they are in fact the weakest family around!
could be that he is to loyal to zahard just to maintain his family alive!

i really need that Owl can be a match for JH even w/o the Big owl. Because the only different between DoKoKo and pudidi is the bird.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

And if you have a weakling like that as you top 3 you family is a joke!
Well, Holan confirmed that in fact there’s a top list about strength in the family.
 

sazon

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Nov 24, 2019
Messages
5,318
Reaction score
12,851
Age
28
Gender
Male
Country
Brazil
At very least she knows Baam is around White level. To which she evaluates not good enough in her book. Unless she has other means to see Baam, she likely hasn't seen Baam dominating White. In fact the whole Baam changing shinsu around him probably made it impossible to be seen in a normal manner.
Yes, she may know that White lost, but not how. Baam didn't just defeat White, he overcame him. He himself said that Baam was much stronger than him. And if we ignore the fact that SIU wanted to PU the regulars, Baam would defeat White without the tug-of-war that was clear.

If Maschenny had actually seen the fight, she wouldn't have acted so lightly, even if she was still stronger than White. The game changer there was surprising by their standards. This is the point.

Anyway this is irrelevant now, Baam will come out of that crystal even stronger. Because we only found what Traumerai kept, not what Zahard put there.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Didn’t you just quote me saying we can’t use the profiles?

the profile also said Hon had few children and fewer princesse. You can’t have it both ways
We can't use the posts, but he can use it to say that Maschenny is the central power of the family and Ran the greatest genius in history.
--- Double Post Merged, ---

TBH if LPB just can use animals or spirit to fight they are in fact the weakest family around!
could be that he is to loyal to zahard just to maintain his family alive!

i really need that Owl can be a match for JH even w/o the Big owl. Because the only different between DoKoKo and pudidi is the bird.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

And if you have a weakling like that as you top 3 you family is a joke!
Well, Holan confirmed that in fact there’s a top list about strength in the family.
.
I said that LPB rankers relying totally on their shinheuh was ridiculous and I almost got crucified here.

That's why Kaiser is considered more talented than many DDs in the family, she thinks.

Amazingly, Kaiser as a regular seems like a more complete fighter than Dokoko who is an HR.
 

O_n_Sly

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Aug 5, 2018
Messages
8,959
Reaction score
6,036
Country
United States
Sly, how is anyone using Shinsoo on this floor then?
How does something that CONTROLS shinsoo, get put in a cage made of shinsoo?
How can Rei do something that Zahard can't even do?

Rei also calls it a TRIFLE in the FB... you think he'd call the de facto ancient tower gods trifles?
1st off trifle is the incorrect translation and Traum killed the beast in the FB lol! The being says it is inside every drop of shinsu and only the 10 GW could hear it before Baam!!! Unlike Doom, Dowon, and chi it was sealed here in the Nest guarded by the magical 2nd wall and the giant odd eyed cobra! It’s either a Thryssa, admin, or spirit of an irregular! There’s nothing else Baam could acquire that would help him match Traum in power!
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Yas said he had the floor admin’s blessing for his game and we know that was not true! The game was rigged from the start, the floor admin would not allow that!
--- Double Post Merged, ---

If anything in that FB when Traum talks about the beast he couldn’t tame and so instead killed, that was basically WW as well in the end the FH couldn’t tame him and wouldn’t even give WW the chance to one day betray so killed him instead
--- Double Post Merged, ---

You think admin from 44 floor and 2 floor are helping baam because they want him to rescue his colleague ?
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

He even sent EVK to baam!
Admin in 44th floor? who that? I only recall us seeing 1 admin and that was on the 2nd Floor and technically maybe 2 if you count Headon
 

Ignorant

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
6,586
Reaction score
9,632
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
Dominican Republic
1st off trifle is the incorrect translation and Traum killed the beast in the FB lol! The being says it is inside every drop of shinsu and only the 10 GW could hear it before Baam!!! Unlike Doom, Dowon, and chi it was sealed here in the Nest guarded by the magical 2nd wall and the giant odd eyed cobra! It’s either a Thryssa, admin, or spirit of an irregular! There’s nothing else Baam could acquire that would help him match Traum in power!
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Yas said he had the floor admin’s blessing for his game and we know that was not true! The game was rigged from the start, the floor admin would not allow that!
--- Double Post Merged, ---

If anything in that FB when Traum talks about the beast he couldn’t tame and so instead killed, that was basically WW as well in the end the FH couldn’t tame him and wouldn’t even give WW the chance to one day betray so killed him instead
--- Double Post Merged, ---



Admin in 44th floor? who that? I only recall us seeing 1 admin and that was on the 2nd Floor and technically maybe 2 if you count Headon
1- 44th floor did nothing to stop high rankers in his area.
2- let another admin interferer his domain sending more HR troops..
3- before enter the floor YHS told Evk to not use much of her power because the admin can intervene
She did.. nothing happens..
4- in the 20’s floor the admin reacted just when karaka show up but JH was walking around all the time and nothing happened, by that time karaka was trying to kill Jack wannang team to replace it for people from fug..
Battle oof workshop
When madorako sent his minion they were rankers
Admin don’t show up but let lero-ro operate and fought them in a zone of regulars..
hell train the admin of that floor let that khun member stop the train and did nothing..
It seems that the admins are trying to help baam get to the top..

the 2 floor admin just fake it his anger when he fire YHS and Evk.. we know they can’t move between floors... to open a portal th goes straight to the 50’s floor
Every admin need to be in the same pages
Because it was stated just headon can do such a thing.. for now is a theory..

if the 52 admin let the game got rigged he got a future reason... IMO.
 

PlotArmouredTitan

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2019
Messages
1,606
Reaction score
3,460
Age
27
Country
Nigeria
No, that is not true:
  • Baam could not burn the souls before White showed him how.
  • When the black shinsu happened, Baam mercilessly devoured all the souls to gain power.
  • Baam could not materialise the black orb before he lost his shit.

Baam wasn't holding back when White killed him. He just couldn't materialise that power yet. Something changed in Baam when he was killed that allowed him to draw out that latent power.
  • Baam could already make use of the souls from the beginning, he just chose not to because of his fragile morality. White only taught him how to make use of it much better.
  • I don't see how this is relevant
  • He brought out the red orb without problems when he found out about Prince and Akr
I really don't get why you guys want to believe that Baam could only fight weak rankers at the beginning of the arc.
He was already overwhelming them easily at the last station.
Also, I wasn't talking about the fight with White, but it is clear that he was holding back against Charlie and Kallavan.
 
Last edited:

sazon

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Nov 24, 2019
Messages
5,318
Reaction score
12,851
Age
28
Gender
Male
Country
Brazil
1st off trifle is the incorrect translation and Traum killed the beast in the FB lol! The being says it is inside every drop of shinsu and only the 10 GW could hear it before Baam!!! Unlike Doom, Dowon, and chi it was sealed here in the Nest guarded by the magical 2nd wall and the giant odd eyed cobra! It’s either a Thryssa, admin, or spirit of an irregular! There’s nothing else Baam could acquire that would help him match Traum in power!
Where did the Rei kill that beast? Wow SIU, now it makes sense, you forgot to release the last chapter of the flashback for us.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Yas said he had the floor admin’s blessing for his game and we know that was not true! The game was rigged from the start, the floor admin would not allow that!
Even because the ADM are extremely neutral and impartial, right?
 

Ignorant

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
6,586
Reaction score
9,632
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
Dominican Republic
  • Baam could already make use of the souls from the beginning, he just chose not to because of his fragile morality. White only taught him how to make use of it much better.
  • I don't get how this is relevant
  • He brought out the red orb without problems when he found out about Prince and Akr
I really don't get why you guys want to believe that Baam could only fight weak ranker at the beginning of the arc
He was already overwhelming easily them at the last station.
I wasn't talking about White but it is clear that he was holding back against Charlie and Kallavan.
In fact he has all he need to beat everybody from the day he was born!
 

Arjuna

The Emperor Who Rules the World
伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member
Joined
Oct 31, 2015
Messages
16,366
Reaction score
25,476
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
India
1st off trifle is the incorrect translation and Traum killed the beast in the FB lol!
Do you really think a creature even Traumerai couldn't control will gonna get killed offscreen?Rei even said ,"It will remain like this" something along this line which indicates the creature is alive.
 
Last edited:

Ignorant

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
6,586
Reaction score
9,632
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
Dominican Republic
Its obvious Owl is warming up.. +HJ said it.
It seems like Holan tried hard..
holan was impressed after seeing Them fight
It seems that Pudidi is tough melee fighter in the family not just with the animal...
scout are the melee fighter in the team? @sazon

the fight was fine i like that is the same “sasuke and naruto last fight” sequence.

SIU is traying hard to change our minds to think about the Ha’s being technician lol
let’s see what he got...
 

Fun

Registered User
下級員 / Kakyuuin / Jr. Member
Joined
Nov 16, 2021
Messages
89
Reaction score
169
Age
32
Country
Indonesia
If anything in that FB when Traum talks about the beast he couldn’t tame and so instead killed, that was basically WW as well in the end the FH couldn’t tame him and wouldn’t even give WW the chance to one day betray so killed him instead
Kirin asked Traumerei about the beast at the Nest, he answered that it doesn't understand his will and it will remain that way, it means the beast is alive.

And it doesn't refer to Wangwang either, because they live in different place under different circumtances/situation.
 

O_n_Sly

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Aug 5, 2018
Messages
8,959
Reaction score
6,036
Country
United States
1- 44th floor did nothing to stop high rankers in his area.
2- let another admin interferer his domain sending more HR troops..
3- before enter the floor YHS told Evk to not use much of her power because the admin can intervene
She did.. nothing happens..
4- in the 20’s floor the admin reacted just when karaka show up but JH was walking around all the time and nothing happened, by that time karaka was trying to kill Jack wannang team to replace it for people from fug..
Battle oof workshop
When madorako sent his minion they were rankers
Admin don’t show up but let lero-ro operate and fought them in a zone of regulars..
hell train the admin of that floor let that khun member stop the train and did nothing..
It seems that the admins are trying to help baam get to the top..

the 2 floor admin just fake it his anger when he fire YHS and Evk.. we know they can’t move between floors... to open a portal th goes straight to the 50’s floor
Every admin need to be in the same pages
Because it was stated just headon can do such a thing.. for now is a theory..

if the 52 admin let the game got rigged he got a future reason... IMO.
44th floor? Eliot was a Floor Ruler, like EVK and WGW! That’s not an admin. Like I said before the only admin we’ve seen is the one on the 2nd Floor! I guess the FoD one too, from the Enryu FB!
 

lazybum

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Sep 16, 2021
Messages
953
Reaction score
2,927
Age
34
Country
France
44th floor? Eliot was a Floor Ruler, like EVK and WGW! That’s not an admin. Like I said before the only admin we’ve seen is the one on the 2nd Floor! I guess the FoD one too, from the Enryu FB!
The administrator allowed Zahard's force to interfere with Regulars in the Hell Train :

 

O_n_Sly

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Aug 5, 2018
Messages
8,959
Reaction score
6,036
Country
United States
Do you really think a creature even Traumerai couldn't control will gonna get killed offscreen?Rei even said ,"It will remain like this" something along this line which indicates the creature is alive.
Read the entire t/l next time LOL! ‘But I got rid of it, so it’s okay’ - Traum
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

The administrator allowed Zahard's force to interfere with Regulars in the Hell Train :

Did we actually see the administrator LOL? Why would the Administrator allow it but then the Floor Ruler appears and wants both sides to leave!
 

lazybum

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Sep 16, 2021
Messages
953
Reaction score
2,927
Age
34
Country
France
Did you actually see the administrator LOL? Why would the Administrator allow the be thing but then the Floor Ruler appears and what both sides to leave!
Going by the guy's words, they asked permission to the administrator if they are allowed to do what they want, otherwise it will kill them all.

As for Elliot, remember he acted only because EVK appeared and made a huge mess.
 

O_n_Sly

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Aug 5, 2018
Messages
8,959
Reaction score
6,036
Country
United States
Kirin asked Traumerei about the beast at the Nest, he answered that it doesn't understand his will and it will remain that way, it means the beast is alive.

And it doesn't refer to Wangwang either, because they live in different place under different circumtances/situation.
Like I said earlier, go back and read the entire t/l LOL!
Common denominator between WW and that beast, Traum couldn’t control both and both are dead.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Going by the guy's words, they asked permission to the administrator if they are allowed to do what they want, otherwise it will kill them all.

As for Elliot, remember he acted only because EVK appeared and made a huge mess.
You obviously just jumped into something without understanding the point I was making, read the thread lol
--- Double Post Merged, ---

Where did the Rei kill that beast? Wow SIU, now it makes sense, you forgot to release the last chapter of the flashback for us.
He says so himself if you read the entire chapter!
 

Arjuna

The Emperor Who Rules the World
伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member
Joined
Oct 31, 2015
Messages
16,366
Reaction score
25,476
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
India
Read the entire t/l next time LOL! ‘But I got rid of it, so it’s okay’ - Traum
"But I got rid of it" doesn't necessarily have to be killed.Even if he seals it even then it is "getting rid of". Especially as he mentioned earlier if will remain that way.Let's be honest do you really think SIU will have him mention about the creature if he doesn't plan to introduce it in future?
 

O_n_Sly

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Aug 5, 2018
Messages
8,959
Reaction score
6,036
Country
United States
"But I got rid of it" doesn't necessarily have to be killed.Even if he seals him even then it is "getting rid of". Especially as he mentioned earlier if will remain that way.Let's be honest do you really think SIU will have him mention about the creature if he doesn't plan to introduce it in future?
Yes LOL, WWs death was off screened! The reason why SIU mentions the beast is because that is what pisses off Traum causes NN and WWs end LOL! Stop over thinking this!
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

The very next chapter Traum says to NN - ‘Death is easier to perform than Domination! Death to me is a gift a to those who have lost even their value to be dominated’
--- Double Post Merged, ---

But yah go ahead and keep convincing yourself that - I got rid of it means I sealed it LMFAO!!!

I’m soo looking fwd to Sunday now!
 

Arjuna

The Emperor Who Rules the World
伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member
Joined
Oct 31, 2015
Messages
16,366
Reaction score
25,476
Age
31
Gender
Male
Country
India
Yes LOL, WWs death was off screened! The reason why SIU mentions the beast because that is what pisses off Traum causes NN and WWs end LOL! Stop over thinking this!
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

The very next chapter Traum says to NN - ‘Death is easier to perform than Domination! Death to me is a gift a to those who have lost even their value to be dominated’
--- Double Post Merged, ---

But yah go ahead and keep convincing yourself that - I got rid of it means I sealed it LMFAO!!!

I’m soo looking fwd to Sunday now!
Are you seriously comparing WW and the creature? We know a lot about WW but not about the creature which apparently even Traumerai can't control.And SIU introduced this plot point for some reason.I believe it is the creature that is sealed in the suspendium.Okay let's see unless SIU diverts the plot again,we will hopefully see what it is next week.
 
Top