Chapter Tower of God Chapter 531 Spoilers & Discussion

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I think it actually comes from Arlene. Just as Eduan's sons are good with spears, this spell-breaking power could come from her, not least because as far as I remember, it hasn't been said that FH or Zahard can break spells.
I remember Gustang saying the floor of death soul spell would be hard for even him to break. Meaning it's possible but hard.
 

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I think it actually comes from Arlene. Just as Eduan's sons are good with spears, this spell-breaking power could come from her, not least because as far as I remember, it hasn't been said that FH or Zahard can break spells.
My working theory is that 'contracts' and 'spells' - in the tower at least - are enforced with shinsoo.

That's one reason spells are rare and outlawed.

If true, then you both are correct. Irregulars not 'bound' by chains can break spells (SIU also says only stronger spells/spell-casters can break a lower spell IIRC), and ALSO Baam is particularly strong with this due to his lineage/Arlen.
 

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So it's an fail anima trau seal for being crazy and arrogant lol, thought it was more badass than that oh well it's still cool, and bam talking down to it is good already made up his mind for the sun to take it, so he baiting it threats at least bam gets an anima finally can't wait to see what exactly it's powers are.
 

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1. We finally agree karaka is above divcom level
In before it's argued that Fuschile doesn't know what he's talking about.

Remember the discussion over YHS' reference to multiple EVK-level threats?
 

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What do you guys think about Hybrider having the bomb inside him/being the bomb himself?

He was provided by Zahard and placed in Baam's field from the start. What if killing him causes the explosion?
bt bro due to mas plan it is inside the cat tower.
if she didnt interferred that hybrider was suppose to fight baam on the map
so i dont think so he is the bomb.
 

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My working theory is that 'contracts' and 'spells' - in the tower at least - are enforced with shinsoo.

That's one reason spells are rare and outlawed.

If true, then you both are correct. Irregulars not 'bound' by chains can break spells (SIU also says only stronger spells/spell-casters can break a lower spell IIRC), and ALSO Baam is particularly strong with this due to his lineage/Arlen.
Perhaps the fact that Baam is an irregular + Arlene's bloodline + external power makes him capable of breaking any spell, regardless of restrictions.
 

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I can see Yuri in the top 200 to be honest, I usually don't like this idea of "x defeated y, while y defeated z, so x is stronger than z", but since Yuri and Cheonhee have very similar abilities, the difference between them facing Karaka is blatant and in the end, Yuri overcame him there, I think she could easily face Dokoko, for example.
I'm going on more that SIU has positioned those two as foils of sorts for each other. And has made several references to how fast each is rising in the ranks as a baby princess and baby slayer.

As such, I consider their trajectory similar. It doesn't have to be equal per se.
 

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The words are good enough. But talk is cheap. Let's see if he backs it up this time.
Your so weird it's like your desperate to complain for no reason, be honest you don't care what bam does in the story unless it's completely breaks character and the story as whole, cause what he was badass and your still salty.
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Can hear the sound of baams balls finally dropping
Bam gave the same speech to blue t when it said something similar.
 

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Even the monster's arrogance sounds like traum..but what does it mean it was born to take on the king and his hordes? Did traum get in his feelings when zahad gave Arlene more attention than him
 

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Perhaps the fact that Baam is an irregular + Arlene's bloodline + external power makes him capable of breaking any spell, regardless of restrictions.
I believe so.

But I want to know if Baam has been 'shackling' himself all this time, on every floor, with shinsoo contracts. I assume so.

I think that was a mistake the OG13 made. And Baam's doing it again. Or is he? (or can he shackle himself, and then via the thorn/his heritage break said shackels...)
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Your so weird it's like your desperate to complain for no reason, be honest you don't care what bam does in the story unless it's completely breaks character and the story as whole, cause what he was badass and your still salty.
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Bam gave the same speech to blue t when it said something similar.
gg, please STOP COMPLAINING about those with other opinions than yourself. Enough.
 

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So leviathan was made by the King, but in the end, he was also born with the power to not be controlled and why did Trau curse him?

But at the same time, I don't understand this line of his from "ancient times", maybe he is the first shinehuh of traumerei? That he "incubated" throughout his journey?

Not to mention that the arrogance of this animal is gigantic.
 

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Your so weird it's like your desperate to complain for no reason, be honest you don't care what bam does in the story unless it's completely breaks character and the story as whole, cause what he was badass and your still salty.
Dude, don't you ever get tired? Why are you still on the forum then?
 

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Your so weird it's like your desperate to complain for no reason, be honest you don't care what bam does in the story unless it's completely breaks character and the story as whole, cause what he was badass and your still salty.
You act like he's never talked a good line and then failed to back up his words. You should remember the Hand of Arlene, his promise to hunt Kallavan, and other instances.
 

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My working theory is that 'contracts' and 'spells' - in the tower at least - are enforced with shinsoo.

That's one reason spells are rare and outlawed.

If true, then you both are correct. Irregulars not 'bound' by chains can break spells (SIU also says only stronger spells/spell-casters can break a lower spell IIRC), and ALSO Baam is particularly strong with this due to his lineage/Arlen.
The entire concept is quite mysterious considering it had been existing in the tower before Z and the gang crashed the party.

I wonder if it exists even outside the tower. How did Arlene preserve Baam's body till the God outside ressurected him? Could it have been a spell?
 

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1. Rei's ego literally birthed a demon

or (possibly and)

2. Rei raised an egg of a demon?
I think it's the first option. Notice how in this chapter Leviathan talks about "consuming disgusting emotions" and in the flashback Traum talked about "getting rid of emotions". He might be feeding Leviathan his own emotions which he deems unnecessary. If it's not metaphorical, as in consuming = experiencing, then it's likely Traum split his ego and "gave birth" to it.
 

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So leviathan was made by the King, but in the end, he was also born with the power to not be controlled and why did Trau curse him?

But at the same time, I don't understand this line of his from "ancient times", maybe he is the first shinehuh of traumerei? That he "incubated" throughout his journey?

Not to mention that the arrogance of this animal is gigantic.
It's an arrogance only exceeding Rei's arrogance, which is why he can't control it (they can't control each other?) and his ego might have even birthed it.



Makes me wonder if that's what happened to Zahard. Or is happening. What with his red tentacle-monster and all. Another demon being cultured by a runaway ego.

Is this a potential problem with all irregs? That they enter the tower and are overtaken by power, and their souls deteriorate and then materialize as physical beings?

I guess the time frame for ancients also includes the period when the OG13 entered the tower as well. So this thing wasn't around before them?



Time to rethink the lore and the purpose of the tower/irregulars...
 
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