Chapter Tower of God Chapter 531 Spoilers & Discussion

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The whole point is he being arrogant? He must be an obedient being no matter what?
As he doesn't accept being dominated by anyone, he will want to control everything, don't you understand? He is practically the same as Rei.
 

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Never before Baam has considered anything in the Tower to be this dangerous,not even Blue Thryssa.This is the first time he is saying like this.Don't forget Baam is a fighter and warrior and has fought numerous times in life and death situations.Those who fight in those kind of situations normally develop a life saving instinct which is quite accurate.Baam Maybe right here.
 

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  1. Baam: I am not going to borrow any power from you, // I'm going to take that power from you. // I'm going to make you succumb to me. And then take you out of here. // Therefore, you don't have to lend me your power, // Just give me that dangerous power of yours!!
FUCK BAAM
King Dryst is going to love this...
 

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As he doesn't accept being dominated by anyone, he will want to control everything, don't you understand? He is practically the same as Rei.
He just said to Bam he won't submit to anyone ever again with his power. His first wish was to get out with Bam, together, not submitting anyone.

I get that somehow Bam thought he was a threat to the entire Tower, but maybe he is just scared. Maybe it's the first time he sees a creature this powerfull and reacted poorly. But doesn't seem like a nice response at all.

EDIT: he wants to be free and to see Bam free as well. Wth.
 

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He just said to Bam he won't submit to anyone ever again with his power. His first wish was to get out with Bam, together, not submitting anyone.

I get that somehow Bam thought he was a threat to the entire Tower, but maybe he is just scared. Maybe it's the first time he sees a creature this powerfull and reacted poorly. But doesn't seem like a nice response at all.
This doesn't make sense because Baam has already come face to face with Zahard and an ADM.

It scares me that you think a creature clearly based on the leviathan of mythologies would be a good thing.
 

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This doesn't make sense because Baam has already come face to face with Zahard and an ADM.

It scares me that you think a creature clearly based on the leviathan of mythologies would be a good thing.
He didn't think the same of Gustang, did he?

Bam also has horns, he also has a dark Shinsoo. By logic he is the evil one too, right?
 

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He just said to Bam he won't submit to anyone ever again with his power. His first wish was to get out with Bam, together, not submitting anyone.

I get that somehow Bam thought he was a threat to the entire Tower, but maybe he is just scared. Maybe it's the first time he sees a creature this powerfull and reacted poorly. But doesn't seem like a nice response at all.

EDIT: he wants to be free and to see Bam free as well. Wth.
This is why i like Wangnan over Baam .

Baam is way too easily corrupted .
 

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He just said to Bam he won't submit to anyone ever again with his power. His first wish was to get out with Bam, together, not submitting anyone.

I get that somehow Bam thought he was a threat to the entire Tower, but maybe he is just scared. Maybe it's the first time he sees a creature this powerfull and reacted poorly. But doesn't seem like a nice response at all.

EDIT: he wants to be free and to see Bam free as well. Wth.
Voice: I am the monster that looked down on every beings. I had nothing to fear since birth, // And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures. // I am the monster that considered everything trivial. // Everything inside the Tower was under my power, and that included everything from the ancient times, or even outside the Tower.

Does this sort of talk sound familiar? This is why Baam is not on board with just letting Leviathan out to go nuts.

This is why i like Wangnan over Baam .

Baam is way too easily corrupted .
You're giving Wangnan too much unearned credit. He's too weak to have had much opportunity to persecute other people. That's honestly the worst kind of person to give any kind of power to, and I think you're going to be eating these words if he ever actually manages to get his hands on any.
 

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This is why i like Wangnan over Baam .

Baam is way too easily corrupted .
Lol, of Wagnan inherited any of Z's power he'd have the leeway to be conceited.
 

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let's be honest though, this thing keeps mentioning irregulars and Baam - it only has eyes for Baam.

Baam's getting the PU. He'll host, as he always does. Hope the thryssa's/souls inside throw a nice welcome party.
demon: fuck, did i get eaten? *looks around* Steve!?
red thrysa: raymond? the heck are you doing here.
demon: i got eaten by some asshole.
red thrysa: ME TOO! mark is here too.
blue thrysa: DUDE!
demon: so, what's there to do here?
red thrysa: we mostly go practice boxing at the colon and give our host the shits.
 

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He didn't think the same of Gustang, did he?

Bam also has horns, he also has a dark Shinsoo. By logic he is the evil one too, right?
Baam isn't evil, but no one knows if he's the only thing living in that body.
 

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I am going to consider this all ok if next chapter Bam finally explains his hunch. SIU really didn't give us anything in these chapters other than Bam's gut feeling that he can't trust Leviathan. Nothing in Leviathan's lines or behavior say that.

SIU already made the point that Bam do have some sort of premonition when Bam figured how to manage the steel eel by instinct. So I guess there's that. But still, that's just asking the readers to have faith in Bam. Being the protagonist I suppose he will be right in the long run, but given what is shown us so far, nothing but his ability to "be right at all times" justify his actions. Which is very poor imo.
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Voice: I am the monster that looked down on every beings. I had nothing to fear since birth, // And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures. // I am the monster that considered everything trivial. // Everything inside the Tower was under my power, and that included everything from the ancient times, or even outside the Tower.

Does this sort of talk sound familiar? This is why Baam is not on board with just letting Leviathan out to go nuts.



You're giving Wangnan too much unearned credit. He's too weak to have had much opportunity to persecute other people. That's honestly the worst kind of person to give any kind of power to, and I think you're going to be eating these words if he ever actually manages to get his hands on any.
That line is not the line of a Tyrant. The creatures he calls arrogant, he is not acting arrogant. If he is telling the truth, he might just be making a simple statement. No ill intentions can be perceived in "I am above all creatures in this Tower".
 

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What if we are misunderstanding this whole demon thing that the tower have going for it. We all seem to assume that they are demonic beings from hell/the abyss that has some kind of biblical connotation. But what if instead they are closer to what you would call someones "inner demons"?

Here me out on this. Many irregulars seem to have inner demons that can be manifested outside of them. Baam got one during his climb and its not explained how. He then absorbed one from Hell Joe. Zahard seem to have one and are actively using it. And now Traum seem to have birthed one and imprisoned it when he could not control it. What if they are really parts of an irregular that has gained a separate consciousness? Sometimes the irregular could use them for something and sometimes they are a burden on the irregular because they fill it with unwanted emotions and manipulates the owner?

We know that Traum got rid of his emotions about certain thing at the nest about the same time that he imprisoned Levaitan. He also did some experiments with WangWang to make sure that his emotions were truly gone, which also resulted in WangWangs death and the massacre. So this snake could be the metaphysical manifestations of Traums rejected emotions and getitng rid of it might have weakened Traum, but given him inner peace.

Other demons could also be parts of an irregular that they have disregarded. The demon David found in his dreams in the Arie compound could have come from/have escaped from his father. Being one of his fathers rejected murderous impulses or maybe even his fathers deliberate expulsion.

Other family heads who could have created demons are Hana Yheon who got rid of her ability to feel love for the opposite sex. Would not surprise me if those feelings exist somewhere as an ancient demon of lust.
 

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Voice: I am the monster that looked down on every beings. I had nothing to fear since birth, // And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures. // I am the monster that considered everything trivial. // Everything inside the Tower was under my power, and that included everything from the ancient times, or even outside the Tower.

Does this sort of talk sound familiar? This is why Baam is not on board with just letting Leviathan out to go nuts.



You're giving Wangnan too much unearned credit. He's too weak to have had much opportunity to persecute other people. That's honestly the worst kind of person to give any kind of power to, and I think you're going to be eating these words if he ever actually manages to get his hands on any.
You seriously don't need to have any real power to become corrupted . Betrayal , back stabing are all that

I am not even speaking about just Baam wanting to submit someone , but Baam value changing dramatically .

While Wangnan may be weak and he saw his friend die , he is still the same goofy guy , who like to protect his friend despite his weakness .
 
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