Chapter Tower of God Chapter 531 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

Shin Translation

Edit @Lady pompom @Demonspeed pin please

 

[King Dryst]

That line is not the line of a Tyrant. The creatures he calls arrogant, he is not acting arrogant. If he is telling the truth, he might just be making a simple statement. No ill intentions can be perceived in "I am above all creatures in this Tower".

It sounds pretty much on message with the kind of talk we've heard from the likes of Zahard, Gustang and Traum. Baam doesn't want to be responsible for another ego like that being allowed to run amok.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Voice: I am the monster that looked down on every beings. I had nothing to fear since birth, // And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures. // I am the monster that considered everything trivial. // Everything inside the Tower was under my power, and that included everything from the ancient times, or even outside the Tower.

Does this sort of talk sound familiar? This is why Baam is not on board with just letting Leviathan out to go nuts.

The entire monologue doesn't add up. For it to be as strong as it claims it is, it should be above admin level. But we know that no FH has the power to tame an admin.

Maybe it was stripped of its power long ago or it is just a frog inside a nested well? Then we have Baam saying releasing it is a sin against the whole world. I'm actually confused.

 

[King Dryst]

You seriously don't need to have any real power to become corrupted . Betrayal , back stabing are all that

I am not even speaking about just Baam wanting to submit someone , but Baam value changing dramatically .

While Wangnan may be weak and he saw his friend die , he is still the same goofy guy , who like to protect his friend despite his weakness .

He is what he is because he doesn't have the power to be anything else. Let's see if that changes. I'm betting that it will. Wangnan is essentially the 'nice guy' coin flip of Rachel. Right down to the inferiority complex towards Baam.

 

[Jack Van Burace]

It sounds pretty much on message with the kind of talk we've heard from the likes of Zahard, Gustang and Traum. Baam doesn't want to be responsible for another ego like that being allowed to run amok.

It says he used to rule over anything in the Tower and even beings that came from outside, until they sealed him. He used to be the big bad. But he refused to be controlled by the 13GW, even if he was eventually defeated. That's not a risk at all.

 

[Demonspeed]

Please no Baam VS Wangnan talk here.

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Basically, if it's telling the truth, Leviathan could have been the previous king of the Tower, before humans took over (Jahad).

 

[King Dryst]

Basically, if it's telling the truth, Leviathan could have been the previous king of the Tower, before humans took over (Jahad).

Leviathan said that it was created by Traumerei. It isn't something that predates Zahard and the Great Warriors. More like Frankenstein's Monster, if anything.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

What if we are misunderstanding this whole demon thing that the tower have going for it. We all seem to assume that they are demonic beings from hell/the abyss that has some kind of biblical connotation. But what if instead they are closer to what you would call someones "inner demons"?

Here me out on this. Many irregulars seem to have inner demons that can be manifested outside of them. Baam got one during his climb and its not explained how. He then absorbed one from Hell Joe. Zahard seem to have one and are actively using it. And now Traum seem to have birthed one and imprisoned it when he could not control it. What if they are really parts of an irregular that has gained a separate consciousness? Sometimes the irregular could use them for something and sometimes they are a burden on the irregular because they fill it with unwanted emotions and manipulates the owner?

We know that Traum got rid of his emotions about certain thing at the nest about the same time that he imprisoned Levaitan. He also did some experiments with WangWang to make sure that his emotions were truly gone, which also resulted in WangWangs death and the massacre. So this snake could be the metaphysical manifestations of Traums rejected emotions and getitng rid of it might have weakened Traum, but given him inner peace.

Other demons could also be parts of an irregular that they have disregarded. The demon David found in his dreams in the Arie compound could have come from/have escaped from his father. Being one of his fathers rejected murderous impulses or maybe even his fathers deliberate expulsion.

Other family heads who could have created demons are Hana Yheon who got rid of her ability to feel love for the opposite sex. Would not surprise me if those feelings exist somewhere as an ancient demon of lust.

I was working on the biblical connections, but also the gnostic and psychological ones.

Cosmic egg

Demiurge/Abraxas/Gnostic Serpent

Notice the Jungian 'anima'

Rei ejected his equivalent of Freud's 'Id' as Leviathan

 

[Cinera]

Please delete this before he sees

Too late.

So much for sending the irregular boy to retrieve daddy's treasure.

Explanations:

1. SIU retconned it.
2. The Guard in the Suspendium is the one who will get Zahard's treasure.
3. Maschenny was used as an unwitting pawn by someone else.

Let's see. According to History, Bam and the worm will truc to eat each other, the two idiots will have Bam and our princess will pass out again.

I don't get this?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

There's also this.

 

[King Dryst]

I don't get this?

The unfortunate botched resolution to Baam vs White.

 

[Arjuna]

Future Footage of Baam fighting Lanni- i mean Zahard Army

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Leviathan said that it was created by Traumerei. It isn't something that predates Zahard and the Great Warriors. More like Frankenstein's Monster, if anything.

Yep, it's true. But then again, it could be the spawn of some great being that they took the egg.

 

[Madelin]

I think you're misunderstanding what happened. As far as a battle of shinsu is concerned, White was already done for. What Baam was struggling against the the soul eating spell.

The wiki states that the power of a spell is determined by the contracted being and not the spell caster. What Baam struggled against wasn't Whites power but the power of the ancient demon.

Baams ability to break spells hasn't been shown to be linked to his shinsu usage but his privilege as an irregular, that's why only he could break the spells on the FH walls.

If we see Baam struggling against a spell, it is safe to say that no tower born individual should be able to survive it.

I think Baam being a spell breaker is a unique characteristics that is privileged only to him, even if he were to be compared among his fellow irregulars like Urek.

Whatever his mother has brought back then could be the being that could unravel even the administrators contract that grants immortality towards the FH.

 

[kkck]

to be fair,it's still possible that there is more in the nest than that demon. we know traumerei have the nest to zahard. so we can't rule out the demon not being what mascheny wanted. she might not even have known that was there.

 

[Orbs2op]

About the chapter again since leviathan is trau anima or an anima egg which he hatched or whatever the case maybe, I doubt it exceeds trau other anima or shinhueh that much if at all, it's arrogant more than anything so doubt it gives bam the strength to bring down it former master, everything depends on its power works, if bam devours it completely it should be black when he summons it again, unless it's backs down due the power of the sun and behaves, blue t did when bam confront it and realized the truth.

 

[Sky is blue]

No ill intentions can be perceived in "I am above all creatures in this Tower"

I love that line

 

[Cinera]

Talking about Maschenny going to manipulate fate and steal Baam's leviathan? Definitely yes

Maschenny is the one who gifted Baam with Leviathan.

Maybe AA will help capture it using fire fish and Baam will absorb it and just like how it was with white, everyone will end up getting a portion of its power

Heaven forbid it.

Karaka should have the ability to break into the top 300 already

And by extension his foil, Yuri.

No. Per Evankhell, the Top 300 High Rankers can defeat an entire Army Corps (without the Corps Commander) by themselves:

Spoiler

That's:

• 1 Vice Corps Commander
• 4 Division Commanders
• 4 Assistant Division Commanders
• An unknown number of Advanced Rankers
• 120+ Rankers

Neither Karaka nor even Yuri is yet at this level.

 

[Kunrin]

Maschenny is the one who gifted Baam with Leviathan.



Heaven forbid it.




No. Per Evankhell, the Top 300 High Rankers can defeat an entire Army Corps (without the Corps Commander) by themselves:

Spoiler

That's:

• 1 Vice Corps Commander
• 4 Division Commanders
• 4 Assistant Division Commanders
• An unknown number of Advanced Rankers
• 120+ Rankers

Neither Karaka nor even Yuri is yet at this level.

The EVK hype in that arc was insane.

 

[Ignorant]

How Maschenny gifted baam something she can’t obtain for herself ?