Chapter Tower of God Chapter 531 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

Shin Translation

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[Cinera]

Okay, so Leviathan isn't baselessly arrogant, it's just heavily inspired by an accurate rendition of the Leviathan in the Book of Job.

See this passage:

33 Nothing on earth is its equal—
a creature without fear.

34 It looks down on all that are haughty;
it is king over all that are proud.”

Then compare this to Leviathan's declaration this chapter:

I am the monster that looked down on every beings. I had nothing to fear since birth,

And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures.

I am the monster that considered everything trivial.

Everything inside the Tower was under my power

So we have the following:

• Leviathan fears nothing:
  • "A creature without fear"
  • "I had nothing to fear since birth,"
• Leviathan is above all
  • "Nothing on earth is its equal"
  • "Everything inside the Tower was under my power"
• Leviathan looks down on others
  • "It looks down on all that are haughty;"
  • "I am the monster that looked down on every beings."
• Leviathan is the King of those who are arrogant.
  • "It is king over all that are proud."
  • And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures.

It's a really cool detail and adds a new dimension entirely to Leviathan's dialogue in this chapter.


Other interesting excerpts from the Biblical description of Leviathan:

9 Any hope of subduing it is false;
the mere sight of it is overpowering.
10 No one is fierce enough to rouse it.

...

13 Who can strip off its outer coat?
Who can penetrate its double coat of armor?
14 Who dares open the doors of its mouth,
ringed about with fearsome teeth?
15 Its back has rows of shields
tightly sealed together;
16 each is so close to the next
that no air can pass between.
17 They are joined fast to one another;
they cling together and cannot be parted.

...

25 When it rises up, the mighty are terrified;
they retreat before its thrashing.

@Jubei_Kibagami, @sazon, @Jack Van Burace, @lazybum, @Turtle hunter.

 

[DeadCosmos]

Ofcourse the leviathan calls everyone else arrogant and happens to be arrogant himself. I side with Bam’s decision. The leviathans “armor” is just what Bam needed for a long time which is defense.

 

[Cinera]

No you didn't , in fact you said even with White Baam wasn't even worthy .

No, you were not paying attention.

I said that Baam was not worthy of becoming her ally and was only fit to be her pawn.

You seem to have somehow distorted that into "Baam was not worthy of becoming a pawn", which is very far from what I said.

Don't even try. He's going to change the narrative again. That's why the best course of action is to ignore him.

I remember crystal clear the amount of pages wasted trying to make him realize that Maschenny wasn't calling Baam weak during that conversation.

Another person that wasn't paying attention to what I actually said.

And no, Maschenny said that Baam was too weak to side with her and was only fit to be used as her pawn.

 

[magicallypuzzled]

Don't even try. He's going to change the narrative again. That's why the best course of action is to ignore him.

I remember crystal clear the amount of pages wasted trying to make him realize that Maschenny wasn't calling Baam weak during that conversation.

i realize he's a maschenny fan boy but you do realize what he said or didn't say doesn't actually have any bearing on how maschenny feels about bam right? the person you are responding to is trying to conflate his fanboy statement as proof that maschenny is underestimating bam.

 

[Cinera]

Ofcourse the leviathan calls everyone else arrogant and happens to be arrogant himself.

No, that's just part of the Biblical lore of Leviathan:

33 Nothing on earth is its equal—
a creature without fear.

34 It looks down on all that are haughty;
it is king over all that are proud.”

i realize he's a maschenny fan boy but you do realize what he said or didn't say doesn't actually have any bearing on how maschenny feels about bam right? the person you are responding to is trying to conflate his fanboy statement as proof that maschenny is underestimating bam.

And pray tell, what inaccurate "fanboy statement(s)" have I made?

 

[Gab25th]

Hello guys where English translation?

 

[Yelnats]

And to think it would be a "dragon" really.

Asian dragon, not European dragon.

 

[ivaannom]

I haven't been reading the last few chapters but i saw spoilers about this chapter and i've read the ending and i want to say something.

First Baam telling White that he will take his power and now Baam telling the Leviathan that he will take his powers too. The boy is becoming greedy(not that i dislike it I actually like it a lot), i'd rather have a character that steals the power because he wants it than a character that gets the power because "yes"

 

[VON]

Asian dragon, not European dragon.

you mean Eastern snake dragons and western humanoid dragons.

 

[Jack Van Burace]

Okay, so Leviathan isn't baselessly arrogant, it's just heavily inspired by an accurate rendition of the Leviathan in the Book of Job.

See this passage:


Then compare this to Leviathan's declaration this chapter:



So we have the following:

• Leviathan fears nothing:
  • "A creature without fear"
  • "I had nothing to fear since birth,"
• Leviathan is above all
  • "Nothing on earth is its equal"
  • "Everything inside the Tower was under my power"
• Leviathan looks down on others
  • "It looks down on all that are haughty;"
  • "I am the monster that looked down on every beings."
• Leviathan is the King of those who are arrogant.
  • "It is king over all that are proud."
  • And I was the king of all endlessly arrogant creatures.

It's a really cool detail and adds a new dimension entirely to Leviathan's dialogue in this chapter.


Other interesting excerpts from the Biblical description of Leviathan:




@Jubei_Kibagami, @sazon, @Jack Van Burace, @lazybum, @Turtle hunter.

So, Leviathaneth is untamable and unbreachable. I think Mascheny did expect Bam to simply work out a solution to leave the suspendium with the beast and let her do the rest. She wouldn't expect Bam to try and tame the thing.

However, I am thinking now, it just might be possible. There's a story about a guy that fired into the sky and a deer that droped dead next to him: it wasn't his shot that killed the thing. We have AA right there with him, the same guy that killed Dokoko using Lefav's bullet. And we got Vicente, and we got the sealing circle right under their feet. The circle has enough power to seal Leviathaneth, and Vicente+Bam have means of operating it. While Aguero has the brains to think it up really fast. I do think they can seal the damn thing, like kkck said, in Vicente. Have him become the new White, with hatred as a power source rather than souls.

 

[Cinera]

So, Leviathaneth is untamable and unbreachable. I think Mascheny did expect Bam to simply work out a solution to leave the suspendium with the beast and let her do the rest. She wouldn't expect Bam to try and tame the thing.

However, I am thinking now, it just might be possible. There's a story about a guy that fired into the sky and a deer that droped dead next to him: it wasn't his shot that killed the thing. We have AA right there with him, the same guy that killed Dokoko using Lefav's bullet. And we got Vicente, and we got the sealing circle right under their feet. The circle has enough power to seal Leviathaneth, and Vicente+Bam have means of operating it. While Aguero has the brains to think it up really fast. I do think they can seal the damn thing, like kkck said, in Vicente. Have him become the new White, with hatred as a power source rather than souls.

I think Baam is just going to devour it.

 

[Consul N]

Poor Leviathan, about to go from one prison into another.

 

[Jyu viole grace]

Translated chapter (by alpha scans)-------

Tower Of God Chapter 531 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[Cinera]

Alpha Scans

Tower Of God Chapter 531 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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Shin'ye

@Lady pompom, @Demonspeed: please pin.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

So baam is getting an body armor here...

Pastebin-JVG TL:
I was born with the power to go against the king and his hordes with this armor of evil- // I am Leviathan.

Bible Reference of Leviathan’ skin:
“His strong scales are his pride, Shut up together as with a close seal. One is so near to another, That no air can come between them.”
‭‭Job‬ ‭41:15-16‬ ‭ASV‬‬

if my theory that Traumerei is really a hunter not a breeder is true... that would explain why he’s is an anima spear bearer.. hunters use javelins, spears etc to hunt.

Bible about spears vs leviathan skin:
“If one lay at him with the sword, it cannot avail; Nor the spear, the dart, nor the pointed shaft. He counteth iron as straw, And brass as rotten wood. Clubs are counted as stubble: He laugheth at the rushing of the javelin.”
‭‭Job‬ ‭41:26-27, 29‬ ‭ASV‬‬

Ofcourse the leviathan calls everyone else arrogant and happens to be arrogant himself. I side with Bam’s decision. The leviathans “armor” is just what Bam needed for a long time which is defense.

Here we go, guys, draconic Susanoo.

I haven't been reading the last few chapters but i saw spoilers about this chapter and i've read the ending and i want to say something.

First Baam telling White that he will take his power and now Baam telling the Leviathan that he will take his powers too. The boy is becoming greedy(not that i dislike it I actually like it a lot), i'd rather have a character that steals the power because he wants it than a character that gets the power because "yes"

I think Baam is just going to devour it.

Baam is the Tower vacuum after all.

 

[Realuffy]

Traumerei cannot control Leviathan

 

[Jack Van Burace]

I think Baam is just going to devour it.

Even Bam's apparent special perk of spell breaking seems weaker than other Irregulars'. Why should he be able to control something Traumerei couldn't? He is the expert in that field and failed. Bam is a rookie. He can devour lots of things, but maybe this time he won't be able to simply goble it up.

 

[Enryuu]

I think Baam will devour this one. And not use it as an anima. As an anime leviathan has still the possibility to disobey Baam. Completely devoured by the sun on the other hand it’s Will will be gone. I do agree that Baam has made statements he couldn’t follow up. But this time I think he will manage. Leviathan doesn’t seem to be unsealed completely so it should be easier for Baam to absorb it and he also has the additional power he got from white. On the other hand I will enjoy and can’t wait for the next chapter.

 

[Cinera]

Even Bam's apparent special perk of spell breaking seems weaker than other Irregulars'. Why should he be able to control something Traumerei couldn't? He is the expert in that field and failed. Bam is a rookie. He can devour lots of things, but maybe this time he won't be able to simply goble it up.

I hope so. It'll be much more interesting that way.

 

[Blacktyde]

This is the whole bio but the verses siu use are the bottom lines
This is God speaking to Job..about leviathan

““Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook or tie down its tongue with a rope? Can you put a cord through its nose or pierce its jaw with a hook? Will it keep begging you for mercy? Will it speak to you with gentle words? Will it make an agreement with you for you to take it as your slave for life? Can you make a pet of it like a bird or put it on a leash for the young women in your house? Will traders barter for it? Will they divide it up among the merchants? Can you fill its hide with harpoons or its head with fishing spears? If you lay a hand on it, you will remember the struggle and never do it again! Any hope of subduing it is false; the mere sight of it is overpowering. No one is fierce enough to rouse it. Who then is able to stand against me? Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me. “I will not fail to speak of Leviathan’s limbs, its strength and its graceful form. Who can strip off its outer coat? Who can penetrate its double coat of armor? Who dares open the doors of its mouth, ringed about with fearsome teeth? Its back has rows of shields tightly sealed together; each is so close to the next that no air can pass between. They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted. Its snorting throws out flashes of light; its eyes are like the rays of dawn. Flames stream from its mouth; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke pours from its nostrils as from a boiling pot over burning reeds. Its breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from its mouth. Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. The folds of its flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. Its chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone. When it rises up, the mighty are terrified; they retreat before its thrashing. The sword that reaches it has no effect, nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin. Iron it treats like straw and bronze like rotten wood. Arrows do not make it flee; slingstones are like chaff to it. A club seems to it but a piece of straw; it laughs at the rattling of the lance. Its undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge. It makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment. It leaves a glistening wake behind it; one would think the deep had white hair. Nothing on earth is its equal— a creature without fear. It looks down on all that are haughty; it is king over all that are proud.””
‭‭Job‬ ‭41:1-34‬ ‭NIV‬‬

For the kabbalistic meaning of that.

"לִוְיָתָן Leviathan. the dark serpent, Dragon, the great serpent of the darkness, of the deep-the Great Devourer. Used as a symbol for Egypt [Psalm 74: 14, Isaiah 27: I]. In these two passages Leviathan is a symbol of a symbol. Egypt itself represents the darkness of the physical plane, and the earth as the great grave which swallows generation after generation of human bodies.
He is a symbol of the Cosmic Antagonist; he is the physical plane as it appears to the ignorant. Yet when we understand this plane, the Dark Antagonist is seen to be the perfect order of the Kingdom. Without spiritual understanding and knowledge that there are realities beyond the physical plane, Malkuth, the sphere of the physical sensation behind the elemental forces, is interpreted too grossly.
This misinterpretation, when a personality is extremely receptive to the thoughts and errors of others, can lead to the self un-doing. Properly understood, the dark antagonist is seen to be the perfect order, or kingdom.
In India the name for the sign Capricorn (Ayin) is Makara (Dragon or seamonster), closely related to Leviathan. In Sanskrit its literal meaning is "five-handed" or "five-sided," related to the pentagram, one of the symbols for Mars (Exalted in Capricorn, where the world-savior is born). Related to Tiamat of Babylonian mythology. In Hebrew folk-lore Leviathan was supposed to be the cause of eclipses of the sun and moon by throwing its fold around them [Job 41 : 11. see 708,358, 130, 854. I.
Leviathan is the sea monster in Job: "Can you draw out Leviathan with a hook?" The letter Tzaddi is the fish-hook, and is associated with meditation, and the sea is Binah, the great ocean of the universal subconsciousness. Leviathan is the great ocean of power of subconsciousness. Thus this passage can be interpretated, "Can you draw out the power of Malkuth by the power of meditation" "