Your argument is so hypocritical. You know that argument could be used for Wendy's situation? The only character who actually damaged the labyrinth was Ignia.
But using your logic, Lion Maiden did damage. The explosion sent the rocks flying into the air. This is visible.
Obviously, this is just a matter of art. The same thing goes for Wendy's situation against Haku.
How so? We did not see the stones lifted directly from Lucy’s case while with Wendy we did, the explosion for Wendy’s did, while with Lucy’s that would likely be from any already loose rocks we have seen before their fight started.
How so? We did not see the stones lifted directly from Lucy’s case while with Wendy we did, the explosion for Wendy’s did, while with Lucy’s that would likely be from any already loose rocks we have seen before their fight started.
Laxus low-diff Dimaria without Age Seal that's it.
She use time stop and he die. He wasn't able to react to Kyria magic who is slower than time stop, and Laxus has no time resistance like END has.
Laxus low-diff Dimaria without Age Seal that's it.
She use time stop and he die. He wasn't able to react to Kyria magic who is slower than time stop, and Laxus has no time resistance like END has.
Wonder if people will ever accept power creep. Seems like some still want to hold spriggans in high regards, when only 2 where really threat.
honestly, brandish is among the most broken of the spriggans and even her magic fails to affect a nerfed DG, and human Selene was so terrifying that they had to comment on the fact that she wasn’t nerfed, by Mercphobia no less.
I stopped paying attention to people here a long time ago. But I would like to see the day people move on from the Alvarez arc.
to throw those people a bone, Irene and August still clap the non-BDSK members easily.
Laxus low-diff Dimaria without Age Seal that's it.
She use time stop and he die. He wasn't able to react to Kyria magic who is slower than time stop, and Laxus has no time resistance like END has.
There’s a big problem here, and that is the fact that she wasn’t conscidered the strongest spriggan. If you go into the No-limits fallacy, she would clap everyone that isn’t suited in time magic. The story does not support that argument. It is very likely that her powers have a limit just like brandish can’t affect people who dwarf her in just raw power (As we learned in the Aldoron arc)
literally impossible to beat this bitch otherwise.
There’s a big problem here, and that is the fact that she wasn’t conscidered the strongest spriggan. If you go into the No-limits fallacy, she would clap everyone that isn’t suited in time magic. The story does not support that argument. It is very likely that her powers have a limit just like brandish can’t affect people who dwarf her in just raw power (As we learned in the Aldoron arc)
literally impossible to beat this bitch otherwise.
August can copy her magic, Irene has enchants and is much above her in MP, and Larcade is an etherious same as END who has time resistance, which would explain why he was considered stronger than Dimaria.
Laxus has no counter to her magic, we don't even know if he has a higher MP than Spriggan, there is no evidence who let suggers that, but Gray shitting in his pants because of Brandish MP suggers that Spriggan MP is at least on Laxus MP (even stronger)
Hax have limits but Kiria magic working on Laxus confirms that he's not enoughly strong to be immune to Kiria tier hax.
if a unplanned sequel makes enemies from the original series still a threat like the Spriggans, you can bet that they are still relevant, and people seem to forget that size manipulation can lead to stats increase which can allow anyone to even briefly match that of a slightly nerfed DG
Judging by current feats, many of the Spriggans still scale above high end FT members, from Brandish’s power hindering a nerfed DG and Irene scaling above a DDK.
We know Natsu can beat a nerfed DG in DF. We know A nerfed DG isn’t affected by Brandish’s magic, brandish’s magic works on people stronger than her to a certain extent, and Human Selene’s power was such that merc had to comment on the fact that he and aldoron were nerfed. So Natsu so far is the only person who is certainly way too much for anything in the Alvarez arc that isn’t Zeref or acno. problem with the rest of the spriggans is that we can’t determine when a hax stops working, outside of brandish.
so still relevant outside of the god tiers.
and don’t listen to WoWfan, dudes wrong on every subject.
August can copy her magic, Irene has enchants and is much above her in MP, and Larcade is an etherious same as END who has time resistance, which would explain why he was considered stronger than Dimaria.
Laxus has no counter to her magic, we don't even know if he has a higher MP than Spriggan, there is no evidence who let suggers that, but Gray shitting in his pants because of Brandish MP suggers that Spriggan MP is at least on Laxus MP (even stronger)
Hax have limits but Kiria magic working on Laxus confirms that he's not enoughly strong to be immune to Kiria tier hax.
And everything you said after the top 3 is head canon. You see why these debates don’t work? There’s nothing concrete. You will get into NLF territory.
Also, Laxus one-shotted a spriggan as soon as he got cured. One of your assumptions is wrong out of the bat.
Your argument is so hypocritical. You know that argument could be used for Wendy's situation? The only character who actually damaged the labyrinth was Ignia.
But using your logic, Lion Maiden did damage. The explosion sent the rocks flying into the air. This is visible.
Obviously, this is just a matter of art. The same thing goes for Wendy's situation against Haku.
I suggest you stop trying to reason with them. It's like talking to a brick wall.
They likely know what they're saying is complete BS, but will continue on anyway.
Natsu with some bullshit power up
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Considerable distance
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August and Irene
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Considerable distance
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Lacarde
Bloodman
Gildarts
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Dimaria
Laxus Brandish Jacob Erza
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Rest
Dude, he wasn’t even able to put up a magical defense. He couldn’t even purposefully move to help Lucy, if it wasn’t his instinctual response to save her, he would have been powerless. Mental ability is important to controlling their power. It’s not passive.
August can copy her magic, Irene has enchants and is much above her in MP, and Larcade is an etherious same as END who has time resistance, which would explain why he was considered stronger than Dimaria.
Laxus has no counter to her magic, we don't even know if he has a higher MP than Spriggan, there is no evidence who let suggers that, but Gray shitting in his pants because of Brandish MP suggers that Spriggan MP is at least on Laxus MP (even stronger)
Hax have limits but Kiria magic working on Laxus confirms that he's not enoughly strong to be immune to Kiria tier hax.
1) let’s ignore Laxus 1 shotting Spriggan. Casually and literally after almost dying from a disease induced heart attack.
2) Laxus didn’t defend himself from Kiria. He was in the middle of talking, and he literally already trounced this woman. He tanked all her attacks and destroyed her easily. Why would he be worried about her attack? An how would he know it was hax based?
Natsu with some bullshit power up
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Considerable distance
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August and Irene
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Considerable distance
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Lacarde
Bloodman
Gildarts
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Dimaria
Laxus Brandish Jacob Erza
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Rest
I already know magical defense requires mental effort, which is what the strength cut does, and moving to defend Lucy resists the strength cut and that would put in mental effort and thus would put magic defense up. Erza couldn’t even do that with her friends in danger too and she loves her friends more than any. And that is what Laxus used, the strength of friendship to move, which is mental effort.
Laxus won out if strategy and pure luck, as he almost died from Wall’s power, being worried would put you on alert and your magic power would not be slacking.